Different gear selection for fury

[HuggieTheBear]

So, I need your opinion on this gear selection vs the standard Ebotdz, fortitude and stormshield.

Using a Fanged knife (4 frames), Shaftstop and Pheonix.

Now I know what your gonna say! OMG, your gonna need to use a lot more dex and lose life in the process. Well, thats where I need the math guru's to help me out. If I could socket the Shafts with a +20 life jewel and it has a base +60 life + the 50 life on pheonix thats 130 life. You would need 300 dex vs 240 dex for max block. 60 vit for 60 dex is the trade off which turns into extra damage for the knife, since they get damage from str and dex. That and 60 vit translates to 1.5 life per vit. So, 60*1.5 = 90 life. That would be a 40 life difference in the Phoenix builds favor or only -10 if they jah'd the SS. Plus you would get 100% extra ed and the dex adding to weapon damage. What do you guys think? Am I way off? Alright, thanks for any answers!


Ps. I just remembered that Ebotdz has +15 vit (which isnt bo-able) and I think the fort armor has life per lvl (which is also isn't bo-able). If anyone can factor all this together I would like to know the real life difference.

[superjayson]

too much dex and the ctc firestorm on the phoenix would be annoying everytime it screws up your regular attacks.

for PvM I dont see why this wouldnt work, for PvP not at all.

[HuggieTheBear]

too much dex and the ctc firestorm on the phoenix would be annoying everytime it screws up your regular attacks.

for PvM I dont see why this wouldnt work, for PvP not at all.



Well, my big question is, how is 60 more dex that big of a deal? The life on the items more than equals the loss of life unless your talking about using Jah in SS which no one does?

[Kiba]

You plan on usin a Cruel fanged knife of quickness?

[xpumafangx]

Huggie your missing the problem here.

The arguement isnt about 60 life for 130 dex or vies versa. Its about CTC Your problem is going to be the fact that you will cast a skill that forces you to stop attacking. If you want to increase your damage with a cfkoq, or what ever weapon your using. The only real way to do that is to use max blocking, hardcore, uber beatting, DEX!

Also the resson why I am going to crap on you and superjaysons argument is because. 1 life per lvl, 2 per point added to vit. Means point blank You do not get a large amount of life in the first place from vit alone! Its a freaken joke.

[superjayson]

The dex wasn't even my main point, it was the CTC as you said Puma.

The extra life balances out so yayay for that, but you're taking away some great mods from Stormshield and replacing it with Phoenix. That's a huge downgrade. Losing lots of DR, some res and better blocking.

And whats the point of swinging at 4 frames when you're not only hitting with one interruptible attack (fury), but getting interrupted by the CtC of firestorm from your sheild as well.

I like the idea of brainstorming other idea's for gear, cause every melee char uses the same equipment for the most part. I suggest another shield.

[Mythatic]

You plan on usin a Cruel fanged knife of quickness?

If not, does he mean "Fury" Fanged knife? just curious


If this is PvP? I would still say Fort+SS > Shaft+Phoenix, why? because Fort+Ss gives nice boost Defence(when chilling armor as well!!!!) and EbotdZ does more damage when deadlystrike hits in. Easier to Max block of course, and lastly because of the Chance to Cast Firestorm delay that slows you down. REMEMBER, Fury druids WILL always be interrupted when you get hit, and will always go into FHR frame, so you dont want chance to cast while getting hit at the same time when melee dueling. The only part that might beat Fort+SS+EbotdZ build is if you use Fury Fanged Knife, and not the Cruel fang of quickness, the DS+OW from Fury RW is amazing coupling from the boost damage (380+Pheonix?) makes a pretty deadly damage boost if you ask me, lower life, but MIGHT worth it.

[HuggieTheBear]

Yes, a Cruel fanged knife of quickness. I dont blieve fury fanged knife hits 4 frames does it?

So the real issue is the fact that you cast a spell on strike. Does on strike apply when you actually damage the opposing char or when you hit them? If it happens when you hit them, then you would set them into fhr while you were forced to cast firestorm. I would really love someone to show me a program where I can make items for single player chars. This way I could simulate the char build and see how much cast on strike really affects me in duels.

[MALWOLF]

If firestorm is such a problem would playing without torch also be effective?

[superjayson]

If firestorm is such a problem would playing without torch also be effective?


The firestorm on the Phoenix runeword is the druid spell.
The firestorm on a torch is Diablo's version. Both are completely different.

The druid spell when cast is set on a timer were all skills are un-usable for a few seconds.
Diablo's firestorm has no such timer.

[xpumafangx]

When I used phinoex it was like getting smited with out the knockback, when dueling. Its doesnt matter when it takes effect. The problem is that it takes effect.