Which aura combinations will produce the most damage for my summons?

[AngryJimmy]

Which combo produces the most damage to an act boss such as baal (or even the ubers) ?

I have lv 45 skeleton warriors and mages - SM is lv 47.

Might + Beast + Pride (the most + damage, higher AR, faster attack, etc)

or

Might + Infin + Pride (infin raises mage dmg and lowers defense of enemies)

or

Might + Beast + Infin (lowers enemy defense, raises skelly AR)

or should I just toss out the might merc and get a precision merc? Thus sacrificing + damage% for an disgustingly huge AR?


Does anyone have actual calculations for the comparisons?


and is bramble worth taking for the thorns aura?

[Mad Mantis]

Most of the calculations can be done with this (http://tph.tuwien.ac.at/~gottwald/necro_pet_calculator.html). However there is still a lot of debate on Infinity vs. Pride. Do a search for some more info.

[AngryJimmy]

I've already searched the forums and been to that site; however, as that site states at the bottom it only calculates DPS assuming that all of the skeleton warriors and mages hit.

I think what I need to know is the chance to hit baal for a lv 45-50 skeleton w/ 45-50 skeleton mastery with beast, might, and pride and then do a comparative with what their chance to hit would be with infinity and see if the increased hit rate would do more DPS than the actual raw damage over an certain amount of time.

Also when I search for infinity I don't see any posts at all that show up on the necromancer forums :prop:

[DeathSpawn]

might merc + dream helm on merc + infinity in merc + bramble armor on merc + pride iron golem in normal polearm + beast in necro. this is the max damage you can get from auras.
i never used this combo because its expensive, and i never used pride homewer after reading many thread and anylising bonus from pride and infinity i think infinity is better.

[Mad Mantis]

I think what I need to know is the chance to hit baal for a lv 45-50 skeleton w/ 45-50 skeleton mastery with beast, might, and pride and then do a comparative with what their chance to hit would be with infinity and see if the increased hit rate would do more DPS than the actual raw damage over an certain amount of time.

That would require accurate info on the defense of Baal and I don't know how accurate the bestiarities I know are.

[RealmOftheWolf]

2847 according to the arreat summit which id say was accurate being official and all ^^

[Mad Mantis]

Saying the AS is accurate is not really accurate. Some stuff is correct, but there are a few errors.

[cynicalcat1]

i use the beast runeword, coupled with infinity on my merc and kick butt on hardcore.yea pride helps my skellies but crushing blow is so nice.i did try bramble armor on my merc for a bit but didnt seem to work like i thought it would.so went back to fortitude.

[soul killer]

Infinity > Pride on Merc for Summoner.
Everyone should know that.

[TheRisingX]

if you're a heavy CE user, it will further swing the favour in infinity as well. Also highly agree on the 40% CB on infinity, wonderful.

[KavikKang]

Which combo produces the most damage to an act boss such as baal (or even the ubers) ?

I have lv 45 skeleton warriors and mages - SM is lv 47.

Might + Beast + Pride (the most + damage, higher AR, faster attack, etc)

or

Might + Infin + Pride (infin raises mage dmg and lowers defense of enemies)

or

Might + Beast + Infin (lowers enemy defense, raises skelly AR)

or should I just toss out the might merc and get a precision merc? Thus sacrificing + damage% for an disgustingly huge AR?


Does anyone have actual calculations for the comparisons?


and is bramble worth taking for the thorns aura?

Since your question is phrased "which is the best for killing act bosses" the answer is actually simple. Infinity is better than Pride as a boss killing item. That is, in fact, the primary difference between Pride and Infinity. Pride helps your entire part in general more than Infinity, infinity still helps the party a lot but not quite as much... but the bosses go down a lot faster with Infinity.

So, what you want is Infinity over Pride... and this is coming from someone on the Pride side of the Infinity/Pride debate:-)