Best all-around Assassin build? (PVP).

[BierWiser]

I've never even made a temporary Assassin before, and I've never really looked at the skills, either. I was just wondering what the best all-around build is. From what I see, anyone you can catch gets a WW, anyone you can't gets Dragon Flight then WW. I don't need a full guide, just say what kind of hybrid/build would be good. My 1668/29 Fortitude just poofed and I decided to take my Pvm Barbarian and just make a fun dueler.

[HappyAssassin]

This is what I've come up with from my dueling:

Sin v Sin: WW/Trapsin
1v1 GM: WW/Trapsin imo, this is hard to measure
TvT GM: Trapper

Anything BM: Sins are horrible at it. Pure Ghost is best though, if you must.

[Arbedark]

This is what I've come up with from my dueling:

Sin v Sin: WW/Trapsin
1v1 GM: WW/Trapsin imo, this is hard to measure
TvT GM: Trapper

Anything BM: Sins are horrible at it. Pure Ghost is best though, if you must.

Meh, IMO pure OW / 174% teleing Widower would be the best for BMing imo.

Also I consider WW/Trap better in GM TvT due to the fact that it can kill the supporting casters easier than a pure Trapper, and that it can fulfill 2 distinct roles.

[HappyAssassin]

I'd post that, but for 2 reasons I didn't.

1) Wes would kill me. :smiley:
2) At least in my case (i.e. on the realm I play) I'm in the top 2 of WW/Trapsins and I can name 3 trappers I'd take over me in a TvT. Since I try to ground my posts in experience, I just can't say WW/Trap > Trap in TvT.

[Arbedark]

I'd post that, but for 2 reasons I didn't.

1) Wes would kill me. :smiley:
2) At least in my case (i.e. on the realm I play) I'm in the top 2 of WW/Trapsins and I can name 3 trappers I'd take over me in a TvT. Since I try to ground my posts in experience, I just can't say WW/Trap > Trap in TvT.

Heh, fair enough.

I guess I'd prefer a WW/Trap over a pure Trap since I find that I'd prefer to use a WW/Trapper over a pure Trapper in any TvT. But then again I'd prefer to use Kick / Trap over both :rolleyes:. Even though I know it's not as good as WW/Trap.

If I still played / When ladder resets and I do play again. I might have to make myself a high FCR Widower just for kicks :thumbsup:

[BierWiser]

Meh, IMO pure OW / 174% teleing Widower would be the best for BMing imo.What's a Widower.

Also I consider WW/Trap better in GM TvT due to the fact that it can kill the supporting casters easier than a pure Trapper, and that it can fulfill 2 distinct roles.What's TvT.

Oh and by the way, what's the skill that reduces enemy vison to 0? My friend had a WW/Trapper that seemed pretty fun. She'd reduce vision, set up Wake of Fires, and then WW. She used Fortitude and poison skills

[HappyAssassin]

A Widower is an assassin that uses venom and Widowmaker to be a bow using char. They usually use Enigma and teleport like mad.

TvT is Team vs. Team.

Cloak of Shadows is the enemy vision skill, it only reduces enemy defense in duels.

Usually WW/Trappers use Enigma. I haven't seen a Fort sin in ages. :wink3:

[yelopen]

What's a Widower.

What's TvT.

Oh and by the way, what's the skill that reduces enemy vison to 0? My friend had a WW/Trapper that seemed pretty fun. She'd reduce vision, set up Wake of Fires, and then WW. She used Fortitude and poison skills

No WW sin should use Fort. WW sin relies on OW and venom to do damage, not physical. Enigma or Bramble would be a way better choice.

[Dennis_KoreanGuy]

Trapper is better for TvT than a ww/trap imo.

Perhaps not the strongest nor the most versatile, but I really did like that widow/kick/trap.

[BierWiser]

No WW sin should use Fort. WW sin relies on OW and venom to do damage, not physical. Enigma or Bramble would be a way better choice.I love Pvm, such as with my friend's (shared account) bow Amazon. She never dies and kills enemies easily. How well does a WW/Trapper do in Pvm such as Chaos? What's a better trap, Wake of Fire or Death Sentry?

[mephiztophelez]

How well does a WW/Trapper do in Pvm such as Chaos?
just fine. add in some crushing blow (maybe a Strength claw with +3 dragon-talon on it?) and *huzzah* your a kick/trap pvm sin with gg claw block and the ability to ww. if by Chaos you mean Chaos Sanctuary, home of Iron Maiden? well, a ww/trapper packs pretty beefy lit traps and the oblivion & death knights are cold & fire immune respectivly.....
What's a better trap, Wake of Fire or Death Sentry?
they have very different uses. the WoF, along with MB, is great for stunlocking in pvp. for pvm the death sentry at a high level will clear out whole rooms once you give it a couple of corpses to get working with.

[Speedasin]

WW can't trigger Lifetap (big bummer) if I recall correctly, is limited and required by the Chaos runeword and doesn't get as much AR on most of my sins. Not as good for PvM.

Most WW/Trappers are kickers too...and with enough Dex and widowmaker can easily be a bowasin.

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[LtSinborn]

:P ollie

i think im either gonna go solo -
not sure what to do

trappers are weak on ladder, all trappers are unperm c/c 102 on non ladder

with SA-LockX - i took out most of the top 10 on non ladder including WiZ[barca]

this game is now weak and i need something interesting :(

think im gonna write a trapper guide to replace all the crap builds