PvP Fast-cast WW/Kick/Stun Assassin

[Dethwish]

Has anyone used the PvP Fast-cast WW/Kick/Stun Assassin Guide by speedlander? Im interested in starting one of these assassins but im fairly new to the game. I noticed he did not list his stats, Could anybody help me set up good final base stats. Also, Has anybody used this guide? How well did it perform? Thanks

[Dethwish]

Sorry the link to the guide is..

http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?p=3760416#post3760416

[mephiztophelez]

Has anyone used the PvP Fast-cast WW/Kick/Stun Assassin Guide by speedlander?
yes
I noticed he did not list his stats, Could anybody help me set up good final base stats.
final stats in gear:
Str: 167 for Dancers
Dex: 115 for Runic Talons
Vit: as much as you can squeeze out of your build
nrg: base. don't touch this, if you do, delete and remake. your sin is irrevocably broken.
Also, Has anybody used this guide?
yes. see point 1
How well did it perform?
it performs as well as the person controlling it. it's a tricky build to use, and it's certainly harder to win with a speederlander'sin than it is to win with a cookie-cutter smiter, trapper or hammerdin.

don't build one as your first duelling assassin, be prepared to get WTFPWNT for a while as you figure out the builds intricacies.
Thanks
your welcome.

[Machina]

yes

final stats in gear:
Str: 167 for Dancers
Dex: 115 for Runic Talons
Vit: as much as you can squeeze out of your build
nrg: base. don't touch this, if you do, delete and remake. your sin is irrevocably broken.

yes. see point 1

it performs as well as the person controlling it. it's a tricky build to use, and it's certainly harder to win with a speederlander'sin than it is to win with a cookie-cutter smiter, trapper or hammerdin.

don't build one as your first duelling assassin, be prepared to get WTFPWNT for a while as you figure out the builds intricacies.

your welcome.

This is pretty much my experience of the build as well :girly:

[Bune]

If you are just starting, don't even attempt this sin. It does not work without fairly well off gear (The minimum cost to make this build even work would be atleast 100 HR's)

[Queen Mebd]

If you are just starting, don't even attempt this sin. It does not work without fairly well off gear (The minimum cost to make this build even work would be atleast 100 HR's)

Just out of curiosity, what might be a good 'sin then for dethwish to start as? I know I've seen trappers recommended on occasion, but have played nothing but a couple ww/trappers as far as 'sins go so wouldn't be much help in this regard (and I'll freely admit the learning curve is still kicking my butt).

[order]

a basic wwsin is usually the best way to start. depending on how you build you can get the basics of traping, mbing, and ww/ df techniques down which help makes speedlander's build slightly easier to use.

if you are good with locking and have the wealth to build one i would say go for it even if this is your first pvp assasin. just make sure you use her for a long time to make it more worthwhile.

[Sechler]

I’d go trapper or maybe pure ww or pure kicker to start. I’ve made about 5 sins, and finally built up to my ww/trap hybrid. And she’s still kind of a lot for me to handle. Between cloaking, setting traps, mb’ing, dragon flight, tele, casting shadow, ww, etc. your fingers get quite a workout and I often misclick. I’ve had a few friends see me use mine and make one for themselves and spend a month trading for items and then sell off all the stuff 2 weeks later cuz they didn’t like it cause it was a pain to use her. You could make one, but get ready to put in a lot of practice time. I love the idea of this fast cast sin particularly for the high powered mb. I just luvvv mb kills.

[mephiztophelez]

I’ve had a few friends see me use mine and make one for themselves and spend a month trading for items and then sell off all the stuff 2 weeks later cuz they didn’t like it cause it was a pain to use her.
hehe, theres a lot of people who've done that.

a ww/kicker is a lot harder to control than your average smiter or fire sorc.


a basic wwsin is usually the best way to start. depending on how you build you can get the basics of traping, mbing, and ww/ df techniques down which help makes speedlander's build slightly easier to use.
i would suggest going with a straight 102/9 trapper. you get the practice of stunning and chain-namelocking thats essential to getting any ww-sin to tick along.