Got to beat chargedin got to beat chargedin -- how how how?

[uberHunter]

Ok... another miserable loss for me and my bowazon against chargedin. I'm thinking now to use marrow walk and prison myself then spam arrows in his direction... is this going to work?

I tried the ss/titan switch.. it help, but it just delay the inevitable...

[MysticDragon]

You tried Titan/SS switch with walk fury walk fury repeat?

[dagooz]

This is definitely the hardest class for bowas. hmm with all your frw, can't you just desynch away and snipe then with ga. This will definitely take a while...lol. However, 1v1 you can't lose if they can't get to you. Also, what's your life atm. I am also doing a new build specifically for chargedins and bowas, so life at 1500 prebo.

[crawlingdeadman]

if they have a high enough ranged weapon they could still hit you from inside the prison. plus it'll take half a sec to get rid of w/o any bone synergies AND the worst thing a bow zon can do is be pinned in somewhere.

[uberHunter]

if they have a high enough ranged weapon they could still hit you from inside the prison. plus it'll take half a sec to get rid of w/o any bone synergies AND the worst thing a bow zon can do is be pinned in somewhere.

actually I plan to use enigma to tele/prison/shoot or I'm thinking:

Don't use SS, use spirit, so I can tele/fury quicker.

Gear would be:
Helm: 20 fcr or 25 from griffon so you still can use kb glove.
Weapon: titan
Shield: 29+fcr spirit - 35fcr if use w/ griffon (zon need 300ish dex to max block with spirit, and should have 300ish dex anyway)
Glove: 20 fcr or kb
Belt: 20fcr
1x fcr Ring: 10fcr, 2x if you use kb glove

with kb:
25 + 35(from spirit) + 20 + 20 = 100

w/o kb:
20 + 29(from spirit) + 20 + 20 + 10 = 99

both setup is enough to meet the 99fcr break point.

I realized that that if you walk you'll constantly being charge/smite at.. it just better to tele so you get that immediate separation, now you can can spam fury. I think this will work.

[emar]

actually I plan to use enigma to tele/prison/shoot or I'm thinking:

Don't use SS, use spirit, so I can tele/fury quicker.


So you are going to prison then tele out of it? How is that going to stop your pally friend; mixing up the terrain a bit to slow desync? I personally wouldn't bother with trying to prison your opponent either - it is unsynergized (as mentionned) and BM begets BM, expect HF in the face.

I think SS is a better shield choice, simply for the DR, but try your teler at 12 frames if you would like.

Pay attention to the terrain and use it to your advantage. Keep on the move I guess, but I wouldn't have any high hopes...

[uberHunter]

... and BM begets BM, expect HF in the face.

Wait is Bone prison consider BM? lol... that would be funny. I usually don't care if they use HF.. well I guess I'll try tonight, we'll see. never hurt trying it out.. I'm even thinking bring fcr to 152 for 11 frame lol.

[emar]

Wait is Bone prison consider BM? lol... that would be funny. I usually don't care if they use HF.. well I guess I'll try tonight, we'll see. never hurt trying it out.. I'm even thinking bring fcr to 152 for 11 frame lol.

Actually thinking about it now, BM does not really describe what I was thinking when I said that. Charges of BP = more so of a "nubbie" technique if you will. Not necessarily BM, but definitely not skilled, it was the word closest to the concept I was thinking. Many folks I'm sure wouldn't take kindly to that. With the prevalence of Enigma, I not even sure that it would demonstrate any measurable sucess either. Regardless, I guess if you duel in pubs anything goes, however I wouldn't be surprised if folks turned around and made your zon useless with HF, etc. Pubs aren't known for their good manners anywho (or skill for that matter, but thats beyond the point).

GL with tele I've seen zons do it - nothing worthwhile noting though; usually limited sucess. It's an uphill battle from the beginning.

152 FCR nice!...

[uberHunter]

Yeah I see your point.. but I guess you and I think differently. I don't consider using charges bm or newbie at all, actually I would think the reverse, because you probaly need to know what you're doing to use charges. I know most use hoto charge to cast oak to get as much out from the weapon as possible, and that is fine by me. Anyhow, I have duel many druid/bvc that use doom, I've figure out out to beat them, I guess the strategy is pretty simple, stay out of the aura range.