Lightning Fury Question

[PFS]

Hi, I'm building a LF Zon and was just wondering about how Pierce and CtC work on it.

1. Mainly out of curiosity - do each of the bolts that come out of the first impact also release bolts when they hit a monster too? Or are bolts only released from the thrown spear striking monsters itself?

2. CtC - Does CtC work for the bolts released hitting monsters or does it only work when the thrown javalin hits them?

Thanks :)

[krischan]

On each direct hit, a volley of primary bolts is released on monsters in the vicinity and on each hit of these primary bolts, a volley of secondary bolts gets shot off at near monsters and anything in the path of each bolt gets damaged as well. When shot on bigger groups of tightly packed monsters, it creates a deadly carpet of lightning.

Only the direct hits javelin itself triggers ctc effects, with multiple chances when piercing.

In very crowded areas, like cows, 100% piercing is more important than further bonuses to LF, so Razortail is the better choice there, but elsewhere T-God's is better.

[PFS]

On each direct hit, a volley of primary bolts is released on monsters in the vicinity and on each hit of these primary bolts, a volley of secondary bolts gets shot off at near monsters and anything in the path of each bolt gets damaged as well. When shot on bigger groups of tightly packed monsters, it creates a deadly carpet of lightning.

Only the direct hits javelin itself triggers ctc effects, with multiple chances when piercing.

In very crowded areas, like cows, 100% piercing is more important than further bonuses to LF, so Razortail is the better choice there, but elsewhere T-God's is better.

Thanks :D

Can I check I get this right:

If there is a bunch of 20 monsters the first strike will send out a bolt after each one, when each one is struck it will send a bolt back at all the rest?

So the first strike releases 20 primary bolts, with all the primary bolts releasing another 20 on striking - giving a total of 400 secondry bolts?

Each strike only sends one bolt after each critter in it's range yes?

[gorash]

only the first strike will send out 20 bolts, it wont keep continueing this way or this may get out of hand and make the skill ever even more powerful :)

[PhatTrumpet]

Just to clarify (because the way krischan explained it seems misleading), only the thrown javalin itself can release subsequent waves of bolts when coming in contact with something (whether that something be a monster that it pierces through or some other obstruction, like a wall). The released bolts themselves cannot release bolts, although they can hit more than one monster because they pierce.

If bolts released bolts, which released more bolts, etc., the process would go on ad infinitum whenever you tossed an LF into a pack of lightning immunes.

[krischan]

AFAIK there are only primary and secondary bolts and no subsequent ones, else a single LF would insta-kill everything.

I always thought that a piercing LF javelin will produce bolts on later direct hits as well, although I'm not 100% sure about that.

[krischan]

AFAIK there are only primary and secondary bolts and no subsequent ones, else a single LF would insta-kill everything.

I always thought that a piercing LF javelin will produce bolts on later direct hits as well. It's the whole point of having good piercing together with LF, after all. :scratch:

[PhatTrumpet]

AFAIK there are only primary and secondary bolts and no subsequent ones, else a single LF would insta-kill everything.
When you say "secondary bolts" it sounds to me at least like you're implying that the released bolts can themselves release bolts. I think what you're referring to as "secondary bolts" are what I would consider to be the "original javalin", unless you're calling the second wave of bolts after a successful pierce "secondary bolts", in which case there'd actually be "primary bolts", "secondary bolts", "tertiary bolts", "quaternary bolts", etc. until the javalin no longer pierces (is pierce still capped at 5 times?).
I always thought that a piercing LF javelin will produce bolts on later direct hits as well. It's the whole point of having good piercing together with LF, after all. :scratch:
Right, but you said in your first post that primary bolts could release secondary bolts when it's only the javalin itself that can release bolts:
On each direct hit, a volley of primary bolts is released on monsters in the vicinity and on each hit of these primary bolts, a volley of secondary bolts gets shot off at near monsters and anything in the path of each bolt gets damaged as well.

[krischan]

OK, now I understand what you meant and what's actually wrong with my posting.

Forget what I wrote about secondary bolts. You are right, there actually are no bolts which produce further bolts when they hit. On each direct hit with the javelin, LF produces a certain number of bolts. If the javelin pierces, further bolts are produced on subsequent direct hits.

I'm not sure about a cap on pierce, it's rather hard to see. It might be worth trying ou in the Maggot Lair, for example.

[Eilo Rytyj]

So basically, to simplify, each time the LF Javelin hit-checks on a monster, it will "explode" out it's number of bolts. Those bolts just shoot out and auto-aim at targets on the screen.

If the Javelin pierces through the monster, it continues flying. If it comes across another monster in it's path, then it will hit-check and "explode" again, and send out it's bolts across the screen.

If the Javelin pierces through this monster, it will keep on flying... until it hits the next monster or a wall... you know the deal.

The same thing will be seen with Freezing Arrow, Immolation Arrow, and Exploding Arrow, they will all "explode" on a hit, then can pierce through and have a chance to "explode" again.

IIRC I read somewhere there was a cap of 5 hits for Piercing. But maybe I'm crazy though. I'm not 100% sure.

[Konfu]

IIRC I read somewhere there was a cap of 5 hits for Piercing. But maybe I'm crazy though. I'm not 100% sure.

Yes, 5 hits is correct for all that the d2 word knows.

100% pierce ownes all many-monster or little-room or single-passage plases.