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Well i got few questions about the gear and about the dmg ...
At first : what armor should i wear Coh or Bramble,Coh got str res and skills i dont know if Bramble dmg helps alot ?
My Eq gonna be like this :
- Coh/Bramble
- Titans (should i add 5/5 die rbj)
- Shako/3x 40dmg/15ias jewels helm/or what u suggest?
- Sandstorm Trek/Gore Riders
- Stormshield(what to socket in?)
- Verdungo belt
- 20ias/knockback gloves / or ?
- 1 Raven and ml/ll/str/res ring
- Mara/Highlords/ ?
- Anni/Torch/7 skillers/do psn charms effect or are worth it ?
Switch
- Faith Gmb or botd hydra/eth colossus bow botd - are these worth it ?
How does the poison kill anyways in pvp got no clue and havent see any good guides for it ...
Is this build worth it ?
Tnx:laughing:
Polecat Warrior
17-01-2007, 11:07
In my opinion,
CoH over bramble. Yes, bramble will raise your poison damage - alot. But since it will already be rediculous (mine is 62k over 19 secs) it makes more sense to stay alive while it works.
Yes, Poison facets will help, especially against those with high poison resit.
Poison, by itself won't kill anyone. Your physical jav attacks will often miss,
although poison clouds won't. Trick is, let poison take them down low, then hit them with something else. I use guided arrow (1 pt.) in a fast faith bow on switch, also CS if they seem to have crazy poison resistance. CS seems to work very well with Bowazons, cuzz you can't out-shoot them.
Guided is better for folks you don't want to see up close - trappers, blizz sorcs, etc. even when mortally wounded by your poison.
I have not tried a 120/45 on this build. That seems more of a Bowa helm. I did try shako, and prefer a plus two valky with 40/15 because of the mods.
Poison charms are a laugh compared to the damage you will do with your skills. FHR is a better choice - it will help you with "dodge lock" caused by your own passive skills.
I use a rare Zon ammy that is comparable to a Mara's. Highlord's is good, so is Cat's Eye, but your attacks really benefit from plus skills on this build. Also you will be running around a little while your poison does it's work, so the more resistances, the better.
Treks over Gores.
I like Gores on a Bowa, but most of your damage will be elemental, so they won't benefit you much. The fhr and poison resist on treks will do more for you.
Dungos is a very good belt. I use T-gods 'cuzz I duel in pubs alot and need an edge to compete with hacks (which I don't use.)
I use 2/20 ias java gloves with no knockback, but if you can get it, it sure wouldn't hurt you. In fact, it would buy you time while poison takes effect.
My experience is, you can really surprise some people with this build who think they are immune to Amazons. It's pretty effective on Wind Druids, Smiters, and WW Barbs who tele because they catch the poison when they attack you. Remember poison can't be blocked, even by druids and bone necros, and it can't be absorbed. (It can be strongly resisted though, and that is why you need another source of damage.)
This build is mostly hit, run, then move in for the finish. You won't out shoot too many Bowas or out Jab too many Javas, but you have tricks that they don't have. Try to keep moving and keep a poison cloud around you if you see company on your map.
I personally am having a blast with this build, and it is well worth developing fully. I also find that it is very effective Pvm - you can easilly solo the game with the gear you mentioned - because of your versatility.
Check out the "Sidewinder" build in the Amazon builds section above. This was pretty much the one I used as a blueprint. Eth Titan's all the way over T-strkes though. Not even close.
Good luck.
You do know ya cant socket titans?
Trang's gloves hand's down for a PSN Java.
You got a couple choices for your secondary attack (most likely): GA or CS. You can plan your build around that.
- Faith Gmb or botd hydra/eth colossus bow botd - are these worth it ?
BoTD in bows is really not that exceptional - especially considering you don't get 'em Eth. You can put Faith on the switch to deal some damage.
Some other choices could include: CTA Bow, Harmony
As a note: If you can't tele you better be able to move fast. Keep that in mind.
I haven't tried Psn Java much in PvP - but it does have potential. It can shred through those ES sorc's HP easily.
However, you can shop Antidotes...
tnx,but is also Windforce with 40/15 good foor switch or it isnt worth it ?and what to socket into SS ? 5/5 facet or um or wat , if i get lower dmg bow than i guess ill use shako instead of 120/45 magic helm
Polecat Warrior
17-01-2007, 23:39
Windforce should do fine, as the damage will be comparable to a Faith or better, just a bit slower. I use a low Mat Faith - damage is not huge, but doesn't need to be on par with a Bowa Zon, as I use it mostly to scare off
people and finish those who are near death..............
Trangs gloves generally work well with any poison based build, but I have found the poison damage increase from just 2 skills is about the same, plus it benefits all my other skills as well. Since they are cheap, maybe try the trangs yourself and compare...?
Right now I have p-diamond in my SS. An um seems a waste, as it only adds
a bit more resist for a big increase in price. (They are worth more than hr's on ladder now.)
If you are comfortable with your resists, a 5/5 would be fine, or an ias/ed jewel will enhance your bow/CS skills. Lots of options here.
Yes, agreed you will want to be able to move fast. That's why I prefer the Valky hat over shako.
When combined with titan's and 20-30 frw on boots, you can get around
fairly well. Well enough to avoid charges and WW attacks if you stay alert.
I find I can usually keep out of Wind Druid range also.
Obviously you won't outrun teleporters, so I try to move in unpredictable patterns and make sure there is a cloud of green waiting for them when they arrive.
Yes, if they are potting anti-dotes they will recover pretty quickly. That's why I advocate for another source of damage - I actually have 3 in poison,
CS, and my bow. It's rare to find an oponent with good DR, lightning absorb,
and high poison resist all at same time, but it does happen.
More typically, people switch gear to counter one attack, opening themselves up to another.
The whole idea to me anyway, is keep them guessing about this build.
hmm if i choose to use valkrye then better bow wud be harmony but if i still use shako then wud be CTA Gmb 3/5 pretty nice if good bo on it,but i think windforce wud be too costly than.
hows with finishing bosses and monsters anyway with psn ? also good to make cows with poison if high dmg 70k or so , u can also get it over 100k cuz u can reach 54 skills max or so su 100k + is rly high alrdy ofc u wont surivive so good cus prob all eq wud be skill based ...
jakotaco
18-01-2007, 16:16
Would not reccomend trang's as poison javelin gets about twice the boost in damage from a whatever +3 javelin gloves you can find. I had one back in the days but forgot to get a good finishing move for it, which made her a bit hard to play. Although they do die if they are repoisoned while at 1 hp.
Be prepared to see a lot fo town teleer in pubs however as they die rather slow...
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