Battle Cry for BvB?

[SioniK]

I'm curious whether it's worth it to spend 1 point into Battle Cry for BvB battles. With +skills doing the rest of the work you can easily get a lvl 6 or more Battle Cry, which would net you -60% target AR and -30% target damage. This seems like a pretty big bonus for 2 skill points.

[Lyrs]

That's %60 and &30coming off their combined %ar/%dmg from skills. In the end, it'll be a trivial amount of negation.

You're best off hitting the other Barb instead of getting hit while trying to land a bc.

[SSoG]

Battle Cry reduces damage and *defense*, not AR. Taunt reduces AR, but doesn't work in PvP.

Battle Cry is handy against characters or players that don't have any %Enhanced Defense, but decidedly less useful against characters (like Barbarians) with lots of it.

[SioniK]

Could you explain it in more detail? Are you saying they just subtract the numbers from their ED? I thought it was more of a total reduction. As in, a -30% to their total damage after all skills and equipment. Same with defense.

EDIT: whoops. I typoed in my original post. I meant defense, not AR :tongue:

[iamclaniraq]

Taunt works in PvP.

[Darker Realm]

I use Battle Cry all the time in dueling (1 base point) and it does have a noticeable difference in chance to hit. The hard part is landing the curse on the other Barbarian or Smiteadin, so I suggest using it like Hammers and creating a "Battle Cry field" or using it in combo with Whirlwind by using Battle Cry first then seamlessly switching to Whirlwind to defend yourself from a reprisal from your opponent.

I've even used it against Hammerdins where I would otherwise hit less often. If I battle cry repeatedly and the Hammerdin teleports next to me the curse will be on him so all I have to do is whirlwind away from the Hammers. I get hurt doing this but it really seals the Hammerdin's fate because my hit is virtually guaranteed.

For players without %Enhanced Defense (casters wearing CoH or Treachery) it could be more effective, but it's not like you can't hit them.