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Fearlessone
09-01-2007, 08:30
Just tonite whatever has been happening over on the LoD realm has spilled into classic, and the ladder too. Duped soj's are nothing on the non-ladder, but seemed to be rare on ladder. Right now, there is a game up on USWest called "CrashingD2economy" or such. A few min later, ppl entered our games warning us of what is happening. Even noobs apparently have the ability to dupe these soj's, which of course go 'poof' in a few hours or days.
Yesterday a borderline friend of mine entered a game called "dupe", and those games havent been around in awhile. Is this limited to just soj's? Rare items too?
I dont know if the duping technique is the same. Perhaps Blizzard should just shut down that particular character type (or however its done) until it can make a fix of things.
Nice way to get evermore of us into HellGate London....
i play on west ladder haven't logged on for a couple weeks, as i've been in the process of moving. but as soon as i get back, im hearing tell from lotsa of people that there is apparently a method for duping that works in classic.
this may not be news to some of you. i don't know.
but i've heard people around having conversations about whether or not they've "gotten it to work yet" and "me and so and so tried last night for ages until we did it right" etc...the effort seems to pretty widespread, with varying degrees of success...and the discussions arent confined to longtime players.
and sojs are poofing. two of my friends have lost 3 between the two of them in the past week, and i've heard other random people make similar claims, though i can't confirm any other the 3 belonging to friends of mine.
i don't think this is rumor mill stuff. i have a half dozen friends who assure me that it is most assuredly for real, and that there is without a doubt duping happening on the classic ladder. believe it.
it seems to be confined to sojs at the moment. but i guess duplicate rares, assuming they didnt dissapear before they got around, would cause a stir alot quicker than a few too many sojs floating around. small pond after all...
does anyone else know anything about how widespread this is yet?
and i guess its happening on nonladder too. people are duping the old .09 dupes then passing them on to other players. and they dissapear xpac style. but i think most of the players here generally avoid the old "permed" dupes anyway, and for other reasons than thinking that they may dissapear on them.
:sunny:
sorry to post twice in a row, but i could no longer edit my post.
ShadowLXIX
09-01-2007, 10:19
Ive known about it for a while now...its sad really. Started with a few people then it basically exploded and mass duping is happening...it seemed to be confined to a certain group but it was only a matter of time before it caught wind to a more public eye. The sick joke of all this is that people are mass duping to basically force blizzard to reset ladder...disregarding self benefit the idea is to take advantage of an easy exploit, mass dupe, ruin the economy, force a new patch and ladder reset.
... and its only going to get worse :fortuneteller:
that is something that successfully discouraged me from playing the game
even after the reset, if it will take place
Fearlessone
09-01-2007, 11:03
... and its only going to get worse :fortuneteller:
We've heard this again and again, its what they are saying over at the Community Forum. I think its really the old adage:
Give a so-called honest man an excuse, and you will find out just how honest he is. :evil:
Its not too hard to find good enough items to trade for an soj, even if u cant find one. Now it will be impossible for trade with your better items to move up to an soj.
They dont need to reset the ladder because of this. They can patch just this and then continue to work on whatever they were planning for 1.12, which may or may not affect us here in classic.
You know, there must be enormous pressure for dupers and cheaters over in WoW: 6.5 Million+ online players, with cash. Tens of thousands of people make a large part of their income from reselling illegally obtained accounts and duped items online. They take the path of least resistance, and this game has proven to be a continual pain in the *** with them. There is a current post at the Community Forum about how free WoW is of these problems....why is that?
WarlockCC
09-01-2007, 14:02
hmmm, just traded for a SoJ yesterday, though with a guy I know quite well.
17/30/20 boneshield with 51 def, 25 str req, 40 dura, 24 cold res, 9dtm for a :
10/30/20 grimm shield with 250 def, 58 str req, stddura, 40 cold res, 9dtm and attacker takes damage of 2, plus a SoJ.
Both where dtm blue.
He first offered me 3 SoJs for the shield, but that second trade was quite nice aswell, since my nec has Iratha's on anyway, he's only missing 3 str. His Nec is almost str-less.
East Ladder is overrun by duping....you would think they would be smart and just dupe sojs for socketing and stuff BUT I am hearing alot of the godlies are being duped as well so I would trade at your own risk on any realm...
it's not just sojs is it?
Ive known about it for a while now...its sad really. Started with a few people then it basically exploded and mass duping is happening...it seemed to be confined to a certain group but it was only a matter of time before it caught wind to a more public eye. The sick joke of all this is that people are mass duping to basically force blizzard to reset ladder...disregarding self benefit the idea is to take advantage of an easy exploit, mass dupe, ruin the economy, force a new patch and ladder reset.
... and its only going to get worse :fortuneteller:
i heard similar story. Was going to get back into playing and my buddy told me that some dupe been working for a while was going to go mass public.. something similar to what you said except the **EDITED** owners etc have exhausted the market and need a reset? Don't think the d2 economy is really under blizz radar right now but i just want the reset like everyone else :cool:
fledgeling
09-01-2007, 19:11
LLD stuff with sockets...
Warlock's scythe...
that would be fun
oh lord!!!!
why now? im looking for a martel for my barb and guess what im offering? :undecided:
funny thing is that its really a legit one.. but apparently i need to just find my own wep.
any word on this dupe thingy on europe ladder? damn nabs ruin the game, its not like diablo would be as hard as hell without these short cuts.
any word on this dupe thingy on europe ladder? damn nabs ruin the game, its not like diablo would be as hard as hell without these short cuts.
LOL Diablo hard? I never saw it as hard. Just challenging and fun. But it jerks like these who ruin the game for me, too. I haven't played since before Christmas becaus of the lag.
Let's make sure we remain cautious of the forum rules in this thread.
Fingers crossed this dupe phase will turn the realms FUBAR and can get ladder reset.
probably only thing that would get me back playing.
LOL Diablo hard? I never saw it as hard. Just challenging and fun. But it jerks like these who ruin the game for me, too. I haven't played since before Christmas becaus of the lag.
Let's make sure we remain cautious of the forum rules in this thread.
i agree.. hope that last sentenc wasent ment for me? :innocent:
Fearlessone
10-01-2007, 05:06
...it seemed to be confined to a certain group but it was only a matter of time before it caught wind to a more public eye. ...mass duping to basically force blizzard to reset ladder...disregarding self benefit the idea is to take advantage of an easy exploit, mass dupe, ruin the economy, force a new patch and ladder reset.
Ok, they have been saying this too over at the Community Forum for the past few weeks. The rumor is that it "got out" from the small group of people doing it, or that this elite group "let it get out on purpose, to force a reset :devil:". Last patch was on August 1st 2005, and last reset was a week later on August 8th 2005. After a year alot of people became impatient, we had lots of pk'ers just before Aug 1st of 2006: they listened to the reset rumors.
Should Blizzard cave into this mentality and make a Big-To-Do about solving the problem by 1) a ladder reset, and 2) patching the dupe method, and 3) coming up with other routine problem patching and 4) game changes that often accompany a patch (such as torches, dclone, synergy changes, nerf dins) and perhaps 5) make their D3 announcement at the same time, prematurely, just because of some smug, we-are-in-charge group of dupers???
Not! There wasn't any patch to fix the chest hack, or gold hack, (was that a server sided patch) and the big banning over maphack last August didnt force any kind of reset. Blizzard might come up with some sort of server sided patch to fix this latest dupe (a conjecture on my part cuz i dont know the method or how to fix it even if i did know) or figure out some way to detect the dupe and just ban.
I dont think dupe detection will work, its apparently too complicated. A few weeks ago i was watching a guy at a game center play a meteor sorc in a big group enter the Cathedral and suddenly the game disconnected, he got an "Account Closed" msg and "Cd-key disabled". :yikes: What a joke! The cd-key was re-enabled a few days later, I dont know if he got his account back. Was he trying to dupe? Not sure, he said no, but this game has alot of liars.
Poor Mikk0, he was misunderstood... :innocent:
damn nabs ruin the game,
Today I was in nightmare City of the Damned. There was a one creature in a pack that was exceptionally hard to kill, or maybe I was lagging but the thing just didn't want to die. It was one damned Damned! True story.
Fearlessone
10-01-2007, 11:23
The Damned are the hardest monsters to kill often just because they change position and the game doesnt like to keep up with them. Even Blood Raven moving about is less infuriating than those Damned, esp on Andy runs thru the cats. Especially maddening when u play a single hit swinging melee character...
I read a thread on the battle.net diablo forums that seemed to indicate that they were aware of the problems and were working on it but ofc these things take time especially with an old game that has had many patches. They have never been rushed into anything all patches / fixes have to be tested throughly otherwise you just end up with even more problems to fix and i guess they dont have that many ppl working on the problem but i believe it will be sorted eventually.
WarlockCC
10-01-2007, 16:02
LLD stuff with sockets...
Warlock's scythe...
that would be fun
hmmm, which scythe ? The 200ed one ?
Or do you perhaps mean my Steel ? :)
fledgeling
10-01-2007, 18:20
hmmm, which scythe ? The 200ed one ?
Or do you perhaps mean my Steel ? :)
40ias -30req
also your ballista was nice, but I think I havent seen it lol
the steel is fantastic, you can take the high level sorcs
when Ill come back to gaming, Ill try to find a nice low level req BH (I think 60is max dmg)
<---has a 72 dam warhammer lvl 19
<---has a 72 dam warhammer lvl 19
Did you find that, or did I give it to you? I forget, lol. :laughing:
- Akukami
i found, gave to you, but you liked yours better and gave back lmao
fledgeling
11-01-2007, 03:10
<---has a 72 dam warhammer lvl 19
wow
level 19?
good LLD is level 12..
wow
level 19?
good LLD is level 12..
good lld is sub 30 in my opinion..
I guess my 138 lvl 12 pike will work for that?
Well if they are managing to dupe on classic, might as well try to sell your sojs before the market is flooded. I'd personally recommend you find your own stuff, since who knows what has been duped by now.
That is of course, assuming there has been actual confirmation that the dupe has worked on classic.
WarlockCC
11-01-2007, 15:45
good lld is sub 30 in my opinion..
I guess my 138 lvl 12 pike will work for that?
Yes, that oppinion is shared by people in LoD, since after 30, they still have a lot of uniques and set items to look forward to. In classic, you can use all uniques and set items at level 29 (cept for the Storm Eye, which I've never seen used).
Imo a good LLD is one which has very limited items available to him, thus a far lower level then when all the set and uniques are available. Otherwise, what is 'good' about the said dueler ?
And with 117 damage being the max that can drop on a level 12 pike in 1.11, I would be interested in seeing a screenshot of this said pike.
a Brutal, Fine Pike of Maiming will have 117.4 damage, which afaik is rounded down.
Just to ask a quick question in this connection WarlockCC do you know what the max dmg is for a pike lvl 15?
well the maximum damage mods would be
+4-14 damage
105% ed
so the max dmg on a pike would be 88 dmg(thats the average)
on a great maul however you would get 108 dmg.
personally i think great mauls are way better as 2h charge LLDs are all about max power anyway and great mauls are what get it to ya.
fledgeling
11-01-2007, 18:22
IMO mauls are better, because they have higher minimum damage
you can also get one with IAS which is very helpful if the charge wont knockback the enemy (not sure about the breakpoints)
when you zeal/do a normal attack, a maul hits faster/more often than a pike
good lld is sub 30 in my opinion..
I guess my 138 lvl 12 pike will work for that?
Id likely see a screenshot of it
another story teller? posts of some people on this forum should not be taken too seriously..
WarlockCC
11-01-2007, 18:23
Just to ask a quick question in this connection WarlockCC do you know what the max dmg is for a pike lvl 15?
All I did was look at this thread : http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=435372
And check what clvl 12 would allow. :)
I think Zrk is probably spot on.
hen you zeal/do a normal attack, a maul hits faster/more often than a pike
no. pike needs 24 ias for 8 frame, 50 ias for 7 frame zeal
maul needs 29 ias for 8 frame, 58 ias for 7 frame.
for an 8 frame zeal it doesnt matter speed wise which of em you choose but for 7 frame it does. 50 is easy to get with sigon+twich or deaths+twich whereas with mauls youll need a 10 ias maul.
damage wise they are pretty much equal - pikes have a slightly higher average dmg but receive a slightly smaller bonus from strength.
id still not use regular mauls: for charging great mauls are better with their incredible dmg and for zealing id use a pike. of course a maul with ias on it would work nicely too but its a bit uncommon to get a maul with both huge damage and ias.
and as for the normal attacks, mauls are indeed faster. but you should avoid doing normal attacks in the first place. when a charge fails, either run/charge away from your opponent or zeal him.
My lvl 12 one expired in hc it looks like and before every starts crying BS BS BS here is another one my lld on sc plays with. According to this thread
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=435372 max ed for clvl19 is 100% I don't guess that is totally correct because without the -30 req this is a lvl 19 pike....according to the affix/suffix thread this pike should have around a clvl of 39?? hrm
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c50/zigger421/lldpike-1.jpg
/w *dead to show in game for doubters
and yes it is possible for a 13x pike to be lvl 12 AND a 157 pike to be lvl 19....I can get a few folks who post on this board to vouche for any item I talk about on here. WTF would be the need to stretch the truth about an item?
another story teller? posts of some people on this forum should not be taken too seriously..
And also Fledgling, the only person whose posts I don't take too seriously are yours because I have noticed more than half the time you are talking out of your butt and have no clue whats going on.
Yes, that oppinion is shared by people in LoD, since after 30, they still have a lot of uniques and set items to look forward to. In classic, you can use all uniques and set items at level 29 (cept for the Storm Eye, which I've never seen used).
Imo a good LLD is one which has very limited items available to him, thus a far lower level then when all the set and uniques are available. Otherwise, what is 'good' about the said dueler ?
So is that why you say lvl 12 just to be able to wear angelics? Anyone can slap on angelics + hsarus. But w/e I would rather have more build options below 30 so I am not dueling the same char 100x at lvl 12.
Nice, with the -30req you still get normal requirements on the pike and it has very fast attack speed. Good stuff.
Here's your old screenshot.
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1896/lldpikepm3.jpg
Maybe have some people see it in game. I rememer seeing screenies like that on a few d2jsp posts :P (items with fastest attack speed and fake mods). I don't play east but I'd like to see in game, I doubt you'd do that though :D
edit: More on topic. I play west and there's sojs floating around that are duped. Just be careful when trading for sojs then. I haven't seen any rares poof yet or heard of anything. It's mostly currency thats duped.
fledgeling
12-01-2007, 02:35
oh, I didnt know that zeal is faster with pikes (thought they were slower as "normal" attacks)
Though, I wouldnt recommend running away when you dont knockback the enemy charger, because he will hit you in the back :-)
My lvl 12 one expired in hc it looks like and before every starts crying BS BS BS here is another one my lld on sc plays with. According to this thread
they always expire when people have to show their items
/w *dead to show in game for doubters
actually I will try to contact you on sunday, because you can make items in the editor and I can show you a screenshot of a 2000damage pike or something.
And also Fledgling, the only person whose posts I don't take too seriously are yours because I have noticed more than half the time you are talking out of your butt and have no clue whats going on.
quotes please, thanks
actually you are the person who cant show anything
level 12 req pike is not level 14
you are our "smart player", who is indeed that smart, that he lost his uber items on his uber account..
WarlockCC
12-01-2007, 03:56
My lvl 12 one expired in hc it looks like and before every starts crying BS BS BS here is another one my lld on sc plays with. According to this thread
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=435372 max ed for clvl19 is 100% I don't guess that is totally correct because without the -30 req this is a lvl 19 pike....according to the affix/suffix thread this pike should have around a clvl of 39?? hrm
There is nothing on that pike from the screenshot that would make it anything higher then level 19 if it where to drop this day.
Savage, Soldiers, Iron Pike of Frost and Simplicity.
A pike like in the picture is only possible on non-ladder as a very old item. It is not something that can drop in 1.11
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c50/zigger421/lldpike-1.jpg
/w *dead to show in game for doubters
and yes it is possible for a 13x pike to be lvl 12 AND a 157 pike to be lvl 19....I can get a few folks who post on this board to vouche for any item I talk about on here. WTF would be the need to stretch the truth about an item?
To try and show off, which was the first thing you did in this thread...
I would also be interested in seeing the pike from the screenshot in person.
So is that why you say lvl 12 just to be able to wear angelics? Anyone can slap on angelics + hsarus. But w/e I would rather have more build options below 30 so I am not dueling the same char 100x at lvl 12.
I didn't say anything about level 12, you claimed to have a level 12 pike that does 138 damage. Then I merely stated that I would be interested in seeing this pike and it would not drop in this patch.
---==---
Anybody know anything about the life-expentancy of one of these new dupes ?
Cause I advised a guy on bnet to not shop for anything right now, cause it might poof on him.
I would also be interested in seeing the pike from the screenshot in person.
actually I will try to contact you on sunday, because you can make items in the editor and I can show you a screenshot of a 2000damage pike or something.
/w *dead to show in game for doubters
For as long as I've been on these forums, the only person I know of who's asked to see items posted on the threads in a game is me. Not once when I was hanging out in op UMD2 did I see any visitors drop by to ask to see any of the items posted by Zodijackyl or Zaxien. Are you all scared or something? It's really not hard to leave a message with the Mod. :rolleyes:
They've left their accounts and channels for you to contact them, and yet, I haven't heard from any of you. You claim to want to see the items soon, and I'll be watching carefully if any of you do show up. :thumbsup:
- Akukami
WarlockCC
12-01-2007, 14:38
For as long as I've been on these forums, the only person I know of who's asked to see items posted on the threads in a game is me. Not once when I was hanging out in op UMD2 did I see any visitors drop by to ask to see any of the items posted by Zodijackyl or Zaxien. Are you all scared or something? It's really not hard to leave a message with the Mod. :rolleyes:
They've left their accounts and channels for you to contact them, and yet, I haven't heard from any of you. You claim to want to see the items soon, and I'll be watching carefully if any of you do show up. :thumbsup:
- Akukami
This seeing it would be so much easier if he specified a time and a place to meet up. Typing "this is my account" does not mean he'll be on 24/7 so it is entirely up to him to designate a time and a place when he'll be able to display this pike. The first one he mentioned already timed out and the other one he didn't mention weather or not it was his.
What is the point of going to a channel when the chance of him being there are slim to none ? I'll be watching carefully if any of you post a time and a place. rather then sit around with your :thumbsup: a dark place claiming "come see" and not when. :)
This seeing it would be so much easier if he specified a time and a place to meet up. Typing "this is my account" does not mean he'll be on 24/7 so it is entirely up to him to designate a time and a place when he'll be able to display this pike. The first one he mentioned already timed out and the other one he didn't mention weather or not it was his.
What is the point of going to a channel when the chance of him being there are slim to none ? I'll be watching carefully if any of you post a time and a place. rather then sit around with your :thumbsup: a dark place claiming "come see" and not when. :)
Hey, you're the one who wants to see proof, and if you want to see it, then YOU make the appointment with him, not the other way around. Like I said, you have his account name, and if you PM him, I'm sure he'll give you a channel where you can leave a message for a time, date, and game to meet in.
Now, if you're really interested to see his items, PM him now instead of attempting to make me look bad. If not, then you can always go back to being ignorant and pretending to know something. Need I say more? :thumbsup:
- Akukami
DarkElmo
12-01-2007, 18:11
its a cheap ploy - as i have seen it - its old - but hasnt been used in awile. bn wil get it soon. which means a few days-weeks. lol
WarlockCC
12-01-2007, 18:24
Hey, you're the one who wants to see proof, and if you want to see it, then YOU make the appointment with him, not the other way around. Like I said, you have his account name, and if you PM him, I'm sure he'll give you a channel where you can leave a message for a time, date, and game to meet in.
Now, if you're really interested to see his items, PM him now instead of attempting to make me look bad. If not, then you can always go back to being ignorant and pretending to know something. Need I say more? :thumbsup:
- Akukami
I do not attempt to make you look bad, you do a good job of that yourself calling people you don't know ignorant... :thumbsup:
I merely state the obvious. It's his picture, he hasn't even said if he has that one and unless YOU are his secretary I don't see how you fit into making his appointments or traveling arrangements for him. I don't even see what prompted you to jump into this in the first place, where you just looking to argue or troll ? :thumbsup:
So lets suppose I choose a time and a place. He'll just say "I can't make that" Thus it's better if he chooses a time and a place when we can all come and have a look-see. That way he puts proverbial the ball in our court, which is better then him not showing at a time of our chosing and us going off claiming it must not be real then.
i lolled :flowers:
this has been a real dilema for a long time to me. i dont see any point of scaming, hacking, cheating, lying, not being friendly in game nor in the forums.
its an game, its ment to make you feel good. i dont know what kind of player could get any satisfaction if doing above things.
i did it all at the end of 1.09. dont miss those days at all. game is mutch more fun when going legit all the way.
but anyhoo my point is. i dont understand whats the point of showing something that is a false or unreal. i dont see the point of lying that someone has something that they dont have. why bother? :scratch:
just my 2cents
- Mikk0
Well seems i have caused quite a dilemma and a nice job of derailing this topic into a good looking train wreck. To clear a few things up for everyone, and probably take a nice flaming from everyone by doing so. The picture(s) I posted of the pike are indeed my sad attempt at a photoshop job of my current scl pike. As I said before my 13x -30req lvl 12 one indeed expired on hcl (no matter what some may think) and in my pissed off state of seeing not only that char/item but 4 other nice chars/items expired I hastily tried to slap a -30% mod on that pike just so folks would not call BS etc. (which would have been better that what has happened since)
It seems in doing that not only have I caused an uproar of the situation but also have damaged my integrity. While I thank Akukami for standing up for me it is not warrented in this case. Again I am sorry for letting this get so far out of hand as it has and if anyone would like to see the "real" pike in question or ANY other items I may have claimed to have in the past PM me to meet any time. So much for trying to save face by "stretching" the truth a bit.....Let the real flaming begin... :disappointed:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c50/zigger421/Screenshot014.jpg
This is the real pike
for me it matters not what u did, but ur humility :hide:
There will be no flaming. You are a bigger man or, uh, woman, than some people here for coming clean. I am glad you did. But I wish you had never claimed something false in the first place, because as you said, you have damaged your rep, which will take a long time to rebuild.
There is nothing wrong in wanting proof of an item, in this game whhen so many items are duped or created out of thin air. You can't trust anyone on Bnet except a few close friends, so I don't blame anyone for being doubters. I also don't blame anyone for trying to back you up. Demek is right. Most people woulldn't have come clean. All that matters is that you did.
How about we forget all about it and get back to the duped soj thread (before I close it) already in progress...
quadeddie
12-01-2007, 20:45
Huh, whenever I make a game called: "My185BH UrOffer", I seem to get a lot of irate people in. I just wanted them to come to my mf game so I can get better drops. :wink3:
It's not like I'd really trade my 185BH anyway. :grin:
Kevin William Cox
13-01-2007, 05:47
Well seems i have caused quite a dilemma and a nice job of derailing this topic into a good looking train wreck. To clear a few things up for everyone, and probably take a nice flaming from everyone by doing so. The picture(s) I posted of the pike are indeed my sad attempt at a photoshop job of my current scl pike. As I said before my 13x -30req lvl 12 one indeed expired on hcl (no matter what some may think) and in my pissed off state of seeing not only that char/item but 4 other nice chars/items expired I hastily tried to slap a -30% mod on that pike just so folks would not call BS etc. (which would have been better that what has happened since)
It seems in doing that not only have I caused an uproar of the situation but also have damaged my integrity. While I thank Akukami for standing up for me it is not warrented in this case. Again I am sorry for letting this get so far out of hand as it has and if anyone would like to see the "real" pike in question or ANY other items I may have claimed to have in the past PM me to meet any time. So much for trying to save face by "stretching" the truth a bit.....Let the real flaming begin... :disappointed:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c50/zigger421/Screenshot014.jpg
This is the real pike
That took guts. I'm glad you came clean, you have my respect, trust, will
take time. But at least you were man enough to say you made a mistake.
Kev
Zodijackyl
13-01-2007, 08:20
Well seems i have caused quite a dilemma and a nice job of derailing this topic into a good looking train wreck. To clear a few things up for everyone, and probably take a nice flaming from everyone by doing so. The picture(s) I posted of the pike are indeed my sad attempt at a photoshop job of my current scl pike. As I said before my 13x -30req lvl 12 one indeed expired on hcl (no matter what some may think) and in my pissed off state of seeing not only that char/item but 4 other nice chars/items expired I hastily tried to slap a -30% mod on that pike just so folks would not call BS etc. (which would have been better that what has happened since)
It seems in doing that not only have I caused an uproar of the situation but also have damaged my integrity. While I thank Akukami for standing up for me it is not warrented in this case. Again I am sorry for letting this get so far out of hand as it has and if anyone would like to see the "real" pike in question or ANY other items I may have claimed to have in the past PM me to meet any time. So much for trying to save face by "stretching" the truth a bit.....Let the real flaming begin... :disappointed:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c50/zigger421/Screenshot014.jpg
This is the real pike
When did that one expire? :(
Here's some of my LLD gear, the level 19 one I don't use but it's nice so I keep it sitting on my LLDer.
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And back on topic, Blizzard really needs a massive ruststorm. Shut down the realms for a few days, and to prevent chars from expiring they can push the expiration back to 10 days from when the realms are back up. It'd be really nice to see that :)
And back on topic, Blizzard really needs a massive ruststorm. Shut down the realms for a few days, and to prevent chars from expiring they can push the expiration back to 10 days from when the realms are back up. It'd be really nice to see that :)
they have never done such thing right? so chances for them to do it now are quite slim :undecided: but i would be happy if they just could fix it!
They have done 2 ruststorms I believe, although they mainly applied to xpac gear some more recent classic dupes got wiped out as well
When did that one expire? :(
I forgot my lld pally and barb on hc were not even permed yet so they along with half of my mules on hc got wiped out.
Zodijackyl
13-01-2007, 21:43
they have never done such thing right? so chances for them to do it now are quite slim :undecided: but i would be happy if they just could fix it!
They haven't done it in a while, last I remember was around the 09-10 patch change though I wasn't playing xpac at the time.
DarkElmo
14-01-2007, 00:53
they shutdown the relms around 10 - i think about a week before 1.11 came out - this was (as you all wanted) was to clear up dupes - what they did was use their old admin bots to scan games and find the dupe methods (which were un-useable in 11) - - so if they do shut it down - it will probly be for about a day or two . and in my opinion everytime they do it, some patch or patch add - comes out. so cross ur fingers.
rid the game of ill cheating players.
Fearlessone
14-01-2007, 09:51
The nonladder is still replete with dupes, classic and LoD. The only broad category I'm aware of thats been 'ruststormed' were the white hacked rings with godly mods, they had been allowed in the games coding because Blizzard had intended to bring them into the game, but somehow were hacked into creation before that was done and duped like crazy.
Beyond that the only mechanism I know of in removing dupes is checking the item# that is assigned on generation. I've heard some particulars on how this is checked - at the end of the game or when u sign off or the first person to exit the game, some mechanism. I wouldn't call this a 'ruststorm', more like a 'rustbreeze'. Ruststorm seems to be more of a public relations term, they could probably do it, but all the empty inventories and naked characters all at once would cause a furious reaction, especially from unsuspecting people who traded their legits for such cheap godlies.
Very rarely have I ever seen a thread get so seriously sidetracked as this one has. The LLD thread is still kicking around on the front page, plz use that or a new thread for all this lvl 12 pike :yawn: blabber. We are trying to find out how common the duping is here on classic and what to do about it. Now lets say you are offered a godly item or soj for your terrific find, is there any way you can deal with the trade to increase your chances of not being ripped off?
1) Get the guys acct and when he is usually on. Wait a few days. Now I dont know if removal of dupes is increased by the number of times u sign in and off with such an item. Does the duper or someone else who has bought one of the same dupes have to sign in at about the same time for 'rustbreeze' to be effected? The duper may just have other copies ready, but someone he traded a dupe to might have already lost the item, saving u a disaster.
2) Diablo2 classic is a small world. Ask who the trader knows, any mutual friends? If he lies about the source of the item, he has a friend who wont like vouching for him just to be embarassed.
3) Ask how long they have had the item and where they got it from. You may not see the lie in his eyes, but some information is better than none. We all know of cheaters where u both click the green checkmark, the trade is cancelled and they dart back to the stash "to make room" and then "ok", "hurry", "oh hurry, i got to go!" : a nearly sure sign of the switch cheat in the making.
4) Is the trade too good to be true? An soj for ur silks? Is the trader not concerned about being ripped off himself? If he isnt, thats suspicious.
Fifty Squirrels
14-01-2007, 17:38
How do you take an ss, when I do it and paste it, it looks like fuzz on a Tv, but in a bunch of colors.
WarlockCC
15-01-2007, 00:01
On a PC, when you press the 'Print Screen' button, Diablo 2 saves a screenshot in your Diablo directory. From there you can upload the jpg's to a image hosting site(or even better, on the gallery right here on diabloii.net) and share them with people.
I don't know about the Diablo 2 for the Mac though.
i am not concerned with being ripped off, and i have no idea how to dupe :jig:
the important thing is to let the other trader know i know i am being ripped off, otherwise i am treated with disrespect for some reason :shocked:
butt commander
15-01-2007, 00:45
Reset would fix nothing... I guess if you don't like duping you can just play and trade with close friends and not everyone else sadly. And they won't fix duping ever. The only reason I imagine you would need those godly sort of items to get by is for pking which is a joke in classic as it is. I just think duping shouldn't affect you if you just play for fun, granted your items will be slightly less nice but you can still kill monsters and have fun.
Reset would fix nothing... I guess if you don't like duping you can just play and trade with close friends and not everyone else sadly. And they won't fix duping ever. The only reason I imagine you would need those godly sort of items to get by is for pking which is a joke in classic as it is. I just think duping shouldn't affect you if you just play for fun, granted your items will be slightly less nice but you can still kill monsters and have fun.
untrue
i love to hunt. dont care about pvp. but cani hunt? no.. that insane lag fails my games etc..
so yes this affects us all
Fearlessone
16-01-2007, 07:48
untrue
i love to hunt. dont care about pvp. but cani hunt? no.. that insane lag fails my games etc..
so yes this affects us all
There is NO purpose for a reset now unless they have a solution for the duping. And that may take a patch. Its possible that Blizzard hasnt figured out how to stop this round of duping. What buttcommander is saying i guess is that there will always be some sort of lvl of duping, and thats a safe thing to say in this game.
Whether playing or trading, u cant avoid the lag, thats why i came to post right now, too laggy, and the game my friends were in pretty much bombed.
a question, as I know little about these things:
If you were to use one of these new sojs that you suspect may be duped to socket a rare you knew to be legit, would the socketing have any affect on the id # or permenency of the rare? I'm guessing not, but I thought I'd ask.
a question, as I know little about these things:
If you were to use one of these new sojs that you suspect may be duped to socket a rare you knew to be legit, would the socketing have any affect on the id # or permenency of the rare? I'm guessing not, but I thought I'd ask.
:O
Using the rare socketing recipe with a duped soj won't affect it at all. It's still perm.
fledgeling
19-01-2007, 01:31
There is NO purpose for a reset now unless they have a solution for the duping. And that may take a patch. Its possible that Blizzard hasnt figured out how to stop this round of duping. What buttcommander is saying i guess is that there will always be some sort of lvl of duping, and thats a safe thing to say in this game.
Whether playing or trading, u cant avoid the lag, thats why i came to post right now, too laggy, and the game my friends were in pretty much bombed.
I think 95% of LOD runes are duped.. always
I think 95% of LOD runes are duped.. always
agreed. even tho the ladder season is long there is no way that every caster can get infinity/enigma. it just shows how mutch ppl really buy those runes from online vendors :shocked:
and the ones who really want to this dupe/bug/ladder spree get fixed/reseted are those vendors. the dont have any customers at the moment :scratch:
I think 95% of LOD runes are duped.. always
I guess its more like 99,99% :smiley:
I guess its more like 99,99% :smiley:
there are still legit drops (yes, you can find high runes). they just dont spred out equaly to players (aka luck) :grin:
As far as runes go i think it wouldnt be that hard to get high runes by cubing up hell forge runs.
If you could rush 7 mules at a time to hell forge (which can be done) and that would take about an hour, then doing quest takes about 5 mins per mule. So call it 2 hours. You could easily do 5 runs a day if you were deadicated. So that would be 35 hell forge drops per day, in a week that would be 240+ drops with a jah being 64 guls and ber only 32 ;) I reckon you could have a legit enigma within a month or 2. Not that i play lod enough to want to do this.
Dont fancy cubing up a zod though 256 guls ouch.
As far as runes go i think it wouldnt be that hard to get high runes by cubing up hell forge runs.
If you could rush 7 mules at a time to hell forge (which can be done) and that would take about an hour, then doing quest takes about 5 mins per mule. So call it 2 hours. You could easily do 5 runs a day if you were deadicated. So that would be 35 hell forge drops per day, in a week that would be 240+ drops with a jah being 64 guls and ber only 32 ;) I reckon you could have a legit enigma within a month or 2. Not that i play lod enough to want to do this.
Dont fancy cubing up a zod though 256 guls ouch.
The single player forum once had a thread about how many Els it would take to cube a zod. The number is incredibaly high, like 12 or 14 zeros.
Regarding cubing forge runes, it is just as easy to have it drop a sol or amn as it is a pul or mal. I wouldn't want to run the forge for runes like that. But I am also time challenged as well.
The single player forum once had a thread about how many Els it would take to cube a zod. The number is incredibaly high, like 12 or 14 zeros.
Regarding cubing forge runes, it is just as easy to have it drop a sol or amn as it is a pul or mal. I wouldn't want to run the forge for runes like that. But I am also time challenged as well.
Lowest drop on hell forge is hel, but your right, each is equally likely but still if you were one of these serious players that plays vertually all day it wouldnt be too hard to get an enigma, if you consider how much time at the start of a ladder i spend gold finding to gamble for +2 amulets it is not dissimilar.
Fearlessone
22-01-2007, 03:54
I've tried to do some of this. Rush a char and look for the hellforge runes in nm and hell: i get um's and mals on a good day. You really would have to be super dedicated to getting all those um's and mal's and maybe sometimes better, but usually worse, and cubing yourself blue in the face.
But lets face the well known facts. Is that anyway to play this game? The game designers have messed this game up badly, to be sure. High runes are just too rare, and the only easy way to get them is to trade, after u find some nice unique, and we all know what happens there.
Btw, I've had horrible luck in the past 18 months of this ladder season gambling for +2 ammys, oh i get tons and tons of them, and I get tons of priz magical ammys, just not on the same ammy, almost never. AFter 18 months of gambling untold 100's of Millions, i've gotten one good +2 pris gambling. Maybe i've gotten 2 other priz, not sure, I know one came from diablo. And for 3 ladders in a row, most of the +2 pris i get are ZON ammys, bleechh. Proven last night, as usual, 50% of the +2 rare ammys i get are zon, i just cant get away from this PERPETUAL FACT.
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