Blizzard doesn't care about Diablo. [Archive]

Dimmu Borgir

28-12-2006, 05:47

So yeah, I'm sure most of us know this already, but let's have a discussion about it.

Everything is automated now, passive rust storm is working to get rid of some dupes, blah blah. They've only ran active rust storm maybe once since they've introduced it.

The only updates on the website anymore are... updates to the website. I remember back in the day I'd have a smile on my face when a news bulletinw as posted on Arreat's Summit about 10,000+ Accounts closed due to hacking and et cetera.

The ladder hasn't been reset in like, two or three years seems like.

And I joined the Blizz Tech Support channel, and I never see a representative in there. There's only a bot. One time I did see one, however I'm pretty sure its safe to assume the guy was mainly there to help with Warcraft III issues, or maybe StarCraft.

I thought about staying there just so I could complain to him, but with one rep there and the channel filled with like 20-30 people, the wait was just too long for what I wanted to speak my mind about.

I seriously doubt even another rust storm will be run on Bnet, much less a ladder reset, and especially not a new patch. I would really like it if some people just assembled a team and sort of "bought" the ability to maintain the Diablo servers, just to keep this game clean, but I seriously doubt it.

Diablo doesn't make Blizzard money anymore, therefore it is no longer worth their time. Which really makes me disrespect Blizzard as a company since Blizzard North left. I played World of Warcraft, as well... You have NO idea how many ideas in that game are ripped off from Diablo II. Warcraft should have stayed as an RTS, Ghost should not have been canned, and they should at least acknowledge, someday, that they were the company responsible for releasing this damn game. From what I understand there was absolutely NO mention of ANYTHING Diablo at the most recent BlizzCon.

In short, screw Blizzard. I'll still play this game because I have an abnormal addiction to it, but I'm pretty much boycotting them as a company unless they somehow manage to regain my respect.

You can all tell me to cry more and troll and flame me if you want, I don't care. I've gotten this rant out of my system.

FlakyBizcuit

28-12-2006, 06:38

the only chance diablo has is another sequel...

edit: 100th post!!!!!

RealmOftheWolf

28-12-2006, 18:34

the only chance diablo has is another sequel...

edit: 100th post!!!!!

D2 is dead to blizzard

Comeing soon
World Of Warcraft "New Expantion"
World Of Warcraft "The Board game"
World Of Warcraft "The Interactive Storybook"

3rd one is sarcasm i dont think there is one but hey i aint seen anythin non warcraft related from blizzard

superjayson

28-12-2006, 19:14

mummy noooo:cry:

Vegetall

28-12-2006, 19:16

well blizzard stop caring about diablo about 4-5 months after LOD came out, and about 1/2 to all the ppl that worked on diablo left...

and if u havent noticed they never did care about diablo, diablo to me seemed just like a beta for the rest of there games, so get the on-line part down and to establish a community...

hacks, cheats, dupes have been around since diablo 1 and they never were crazy about it but they never did anything about, but on the same token every game has hackers cheaters etc... just some games accully take care of those problem...

and then theres still the morons that sell stuff on ebay that gave this game a bad name, as do they doing it in world of warcraft, though warcraft is ALOT more time and effort the diablo...

all my own opinons, but diablo isnt dead to me, after playing wow for about a year, ive gone back to D2 after 2 years of being away b/c to me its a great game and i have gone though about 5 accounts full, i have been hacked, duped and cheated out of alot of stuff too.. but its still a solid game and its just "comfy" to play

FlakyBizcuit

28-12-2006, 23:16

World Of Warcraft "The Interactive Storybook"

lol 20 bucks says theyll make a World of Warcraft pop up book too.

edit: i just visited the blizzard website for the first time in a couple years. blizzard is officially dead to me now

Dimmu Borgir

29-12-2006, 00:06

superjayson

29-12-2006, 00:19

My mom said theres a ladder reset soon. Mommies are always right.

alexander

29-12-2006, 00:59

u're all right, i dont like blizz that much any longer, 1st time i played diablo, i LOVED it, and i still love it, but the game aint itself as it was in the 1.10, (damn 1,11) made it worse, nearly cant even play the game, cant join games, can create, and if i manage to join a game, i lag out after 10 min, and during those 10 minutes am lagging like hell :(

DWYkpro

02-01-2007, 13:02

Just so you all know there's a trading card game too O.o

Next will be WoW:The Motion Picture (oh god no)

jakotaco

02-01-2007, 13:34

Strangely enough I keep finding signs that point to a ladder reset... right after I posted this. There's a Channel in the list, a restricted one, called "Season IV".

Also, NickJS has made a sticky on the Bnet forums about closing any new topics that ask about a new patch or a ladder reset.

Wouldn't it be just great?

However, "Season IV" is most probably about Warcraft 3 where they're already in the middle of Season IV.

And I can understand his decision about closing topics, we have the same policy in these forums... they also have a link to Ladder FAQ.
When will the ladder be reset?
There is no official date. If we plan on resetting the ladder, we will announce it on our web site.

Heck.. I wouldn't be surprised if they were making more profit out of WoW: Trading Cards tahn Diablo2 atm.

FlakyBizcuit

02-01-2007, 20:19

However, "Season IV" is most probably about Warcraft 3 where they're already in the middle of Season IV.

iirc this is a diablo website. correct me if im wrong

jakotaco

02-01-2007, 21:09

iirc this is a diablo website. correct me if im wrong

true, but battle.net is for all Blizzard Games, thus if there's a channel called "Season IV" it might as well be Diablo1, Starcraft, Warcraft2, Warcraft3 or Diablo2... Right?

Leohappy

03-01-2007, 00:03

Flaming Banana

03-01-2007, 01:43

there arent too many though. notice in about each game there is usually only one person.

NASE

03-01-2007, 17:40

besides cash, there might be other beneifts for blizzard comming from diablo 2. Diablo has some nice prestige I think. Diablo 1 was one of the first and diablo 2 is one of the longest running rps as far as I think. And one of the few that is completly free. For as far as I know it is unique in it's kind according to game play (no mmorpg where everyone is in one big game, but smaller games.). And it has very much different items and skills. And thereby a lot of different builds that uses them. And if a lot of people still play it, and some play it only when not playing wow, this means that they keep players bound to them.

I wouldn't be surprised of they kept it alive as long as possible.

SSoG

03-01-2007, 19:36

The ladder hasn't been reset in like, two or three years seems like.
Ladder reset was just over a year ago (coming up on a year and a half), which isn't all that outrageous when you consider that all other ladders have lasted for about a year.

Diablo doesn't make Blizzard money anymore, therefore it is no longer worth their time. Which really makes me disrespect Blizzard as a company since Blizzard North left.
Why does that make you disrespect Blizzard? Would you mow my lawn for free sometime, just out of the goodness of your heart? Of course not- as human beings, we all want to be compensated for our work. I don't think it's unreasonable at all that Blizzard is devoting very little resources to a product that is in turn bringing in very little profit. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that Blizzard is currently *TAKING A LOSS* on Diablo II (since I bet the server costs are greater than the incoming revenue). They are already losing money to provide us with a place to play this game, and I don't have any problem at all with them saying that they aren't willing to carry a Diablo staff anymore (and therefore lose a ton more money in the process).

I have a lot of respect for Blizzard simply because they promised Diablo players that they would have a free place to play Diablo for the rest of their lives... and they've actually followed through on that promise, even though it is costing them money. That's a very high-class move on the part of Blizzard, which I think is a high-class company... but they're still a company, and companies exist to make a profit. There has to be a line somewhere.

LordLoco

03-01-2007, 21:28

I'll still play this game because I have an abnormal addiction to it,.

you're right... It IS addictive... still cant tell what it is about this game

I really don't care what blizzard does anymore, cuz in my opinion they stopped making sense to me a long, long time ago

LordLoco

03-01-2007, 21:31

there arent too many though. notice in about each game there is usually only one person.

lol... you should look at the statistics in the chat window when you log on to battlenet... trust me, there are A LOT of people who still play D2

Bioburg

04-01-2007, 22:29

i'm pretty sure there will be a reset
after all blizzards have been collecting "ideas" for 1.12

also, d2 games are still being sold in shops at budget price so blizzard probably still makes some money out of it

last but not least, a lot of ppl are still playin it... d2 is not dead, far from it

That's the spirit m8 :flip: very optimistic.

An optimist is an naive pessimist ^^

Johan Druif

Recently I bought Guildwars (the team who developed Diablo formed Arenanet and made it). There are no monthly fees and I have never been kicked out ^^

I think It's a great game and looks 10 times better, but I do stick to Diablo aswell (I have that same addiction problem I guess I saw some people talking about:grin: ).

How a sorc teles or how an ama fires her arrows or a frenzy baba etc. etc. All the statistics (FHR, FCR, IAS etc.) with loads of different items. The trade channels beside teh game itself. It's just a very cool game which deserves an update.
(I wouldn't mind resolutions up to 1440-900 aswell, since all my chars are being streched on the Laptop ^^)

Perhaps Blizzard should try to sell it to Arenanet so they can find a few people who could take care of the maintanance :wink3:

Well to bad, but I think this game is dying very slowly since atleast 1 year now (after the last action which was taken against the dream bug).
It really sucks because I finally have almost all the gear I ever desired (been playing for 5 years now).

Nice to read so much people care, to bad Blizzard doesn't :cry:

cheers,

bio

Helx

04-01-2007, 23:23

A little off the current subject here, but sheeeeesh!!! Getting bans and restrictions for absolutely nothing is getting to the ridiculous point here (East Ladder). I got a temp ban last night and the only thing I can figure out is that the game lagged badly then my merc took off spearing people like he was on speed for almost a minute. Just a while ago I got what I'm pretty sure is a 2 week ban for no reason I can think off (not entering/exiting games quickly, no hacks, no nothing but fighting my way from the River of Flame into Chaos sanctuary). I'm really starting to think Blizzard is trying to discourage people from playing on their servers, and I think it's worked in my case. Pretty sad...I have no idea but I bet you don't get banned or restricted from WoW as easily.

jakotaco

05-01-2007, 00:14

Perhaps Blizzard should try pay to Arenanet so they can find a few people who could take care of the maintanance :wink3:

fixed it for you mate :wink:

Cheers

Jako

Ce Olba

05-01-2007, 00:52

Just so you all know there's a trading card game too O.o

Next will be WoW:The Motion Picture (oh god no)

Actually, I think they are more likely to make a WoW: The Animated Series. Or a WoW manga.

SSoG

05-01-2007, 11:32

Well to bad, but I think this game is dying very slowly since atleast 1 year now (after the last action which was taken against the dream bug).
The GMerc patch was implemented on the morning of July 15th, just under 6 months ago. Which is reason to believe that Blizzard still has *SOME* real-life human resources still assigned to this game, at least on a part-time basis. :smiley:

Of course, the cynic in me thinks that the GMercs were finally patched because they were putting strain on the servers and it was affecting WoW...:rolleyes:

jakotaco

05-01-2007, 11:58

The GMerc patch was implemented on the morning of July 15th, just under 6 months ago. Which is reason to believe that Blizzard still has *SOME* real-life human resources still assigned to this game, at least on a part-time basis. :smiley:

Of course, the cynic in me thinks that the GMercs were finally patched because they were putting strain on the servers and it was affecting WoW...:rolleyes:

Lets just hope the duping puts a similar strain on the servers then... :wink3:

Bioburg

05-01-2007, 19:00

Lets just hope the duping puts a similar strain on the servers then... :wink3:

hehe, gogogo dupers :grin:

to anyone who doesn't know me, this wasn't serious ofc :flip:

Flaming Banana

06-01-2007, 02:26

Actually, I think they are more likely to make a WoW: The Animated Series. Or a WoW manga.
as a matter of fact, there IS a manga for warcraft, though not for WoW. but you can probably tell there might be another.

kingdryland

06-01-2007, 04:00

The whole 1.11 patch was a decent effort from Blizz, since the new ladder and the uber quest brought many veterans back to the game. It created craploads of issues but it did refreshed the game. And it was in the summer of 2005, not too long ago. Blizz hasn't abandoned the game just yet. There are a few hundreds of thousands of gamers around that are still playing D2 and some of them just won't go to WoW. They are customers and Blizz has every interest to keep them around if they plan to release a D3 sometime in the future. I'm not sure that server costs are that huge or that D2 doesn't produce a revenue. Perhaps they consider it as a supplement to WoW anyway, which is the goose with the golden eggs for blizz,indeed.

Penumbra

07-01-2007, 02:52

I had no idea Blizzard North went under! That's what I get for leaving so many times during the run of this amazing game we've had all these years. I can't believe it has been over 10 years since I first entered that Monastary under Tristram. So much has changed, and I'm glad Blizzard hung onto Diablo II as long as they did, for it is quality. Mostly I continue to play on since 1999 because of the music and epic qualities of the plotline. There is such a thrill to winning that fantastical war against the Prime Evils and their minions.

I was never one to care about mass accounts of wealth; never fell into the SoJ craze. I have only ever owned about five of the things, three of which were found in Hell. Everything is gone; the towns are deserted; Lut Gholein and Harrogath stay lonely in the cold nights. The great games of 2001-2003, raping thousands of cows with water by my side, are all but a ghost. Lag has taken over the toppled buildings and dead rogue archers. I have a feeling that the plains and cliffs and dungeons and caves which fell silent long ago will remain so for many years.

Flaming Banana

07-01-2007, 04:52

Verashiden

07-01-2007, 05:15

Only way they [might] get back into regular DII server keeping would be if they charged for it >.<.

Of course, XBox Live Charges and the servers still leave something to be desired : /.

Chrispminis

07-01-2007, 08:10

I still have great respect for Blizzard. They make good games. I just wish they hadn't made WoW. I mean kudos to them, and they deserve all that cash, and I'm sure it's a decent game, but me, as a gamer, I wish they hadn't made it. It's success has distracted it somewhat from it's other franchises. I was never really into Warcraft, I play Starcraft and Diablo 2(obv) myself. Almost all activity from Blizzard is geared towards WoW, and Warcraft 3. There of course, is the occasional Starcraft patch and tournament, but not often, and even less towards Diablo 2.

If WoW didn't exist, no doubt we'd have Diablo 3 already, and it unfortunately doesn't look like they will make a Diablo 3 any time soon, since most of the Diablo team has left Blizzard. They ARE however looking for RTS developers which could mean Starcraft 2! :D Hordes of people will buy that game, even though I probably won't enjoy it as much as the original.

Respect to Blizzard for keeping Diablo 2 running, and it's the only decent online RPG that's free to play, besides Guild Wars. But Guild Wars is based on a new expansion coming out every now and then, and you buy it, otherwise you don't get access to the new area, so if you buy all the expansions it comes out to about the same price monthly as other MMORPGs.

I do wonder at the extreme lag I seem to be getting nowadays... I just restarted, having retired previously 2-3 years ago, way before the 1.11 patch, and then before that, before the 1.10 patch. I don't recall ever having such extreme lag. Baal runs are painful, and I often cannot create my own games. My ping is almost constantly over 200, and I've seen it jump to the 1200's. I hope Blizzard isn't cutting off Diablo's bandwidth.

Anyways, my only point is that, Diablo 3 is not coming out any time soon, and that Blizzard is still an awesome and respectable gaming company, one of the best out there. I am, and probably always will be, a battle.net whore.

Online

07-01-2007, 17:17

Just reminding you something. There is one place you can always go, single player. Community is excelent, you actually get to play the game yourself, no lag. What not to like?

About d3, i hope it does come out. If it doesn't.. Oh well, i'll just play this game :tongue:

LordLoco

09-01-2007, 04:24

There are a few hundreds of thousands of gamers around that are still playing D2 and some of them just won't go to WoW..

thats right... call me whatever you like but I will NEVER play WoW... :jig:

XRazorX

22-01-2007, 18:25

Yeah.. it certainly seems that blizzard is ignorning diablo 2 and diverting all its attention into improving WoW/WC3.

This is a situation that is looking a lot like Valve's games Counter-Strike 1.6 and Counter-Strike: Source. All the old CS 1.6 fans are getting screwed over now that valve is throwing all its updates into source and seeming like they're trying too let cs 1.6 "run dry."

MichelRPG

25-01-2007, 19:24

D3 will never come out. With B-north gone, nobody at Blizzard has the skills or touch to create a proper sequal (I just hope they won't attempt it anyways and fudge up the entire story for me...). Blizzard has nothing of good value in terms of gaming developers, only WoW experts. And believe me, they're gonna pull a nintendo on it and suck that game for money as long as (in)humanly possible.

As for a ladder reset, it reset about a year ago more or less I think. And to be honest, I don't WANT a ladder reset. Within 2 days there will be lv97 people who did nonstop botruns anyways, and it just means my good characters will play inferiour games on the non-ladder games (less items and runewords I believe?). I only play ladder because there's more to it than non-ladder.

I *do* believe blizzard will release a 1.12 patch, but the fact that they more or less BEG the players for idea's just proves that blizzard has no clue whatsoever as to what to do with Diablo2. If only the department of Blizzard north was able to buy the rights of D2 when they left....:(

Gorny

25-01-2007, 19:39

D3 will never come out. With B-north gone, nobody at Blizzard has the skills or touch to create a proper sequal (I just hope they won't attempt it anyways and fudge up the entire story for me...). Blizzard has nothing of good value in terms of gaming developers, only WoW experts. And believe me, they're gonna pull a nintendo on it and suck that game for money as long as (in)humanly possible.

Don't be so sure on that one. They just might surprise you and everyone else.

As for a ladder reset, it reset about a year ago more or less I think. And to be honest, I don't WANT a ladder reset. Within 2 days there will be lv97 people who did nonstop botruns anyways, and it just means my good characters will play inferiour games on the non-ladder games (less items and runewords I believe?). I only play ladder because there's more to it than non-ladder.

I *do* believe blizzard will release a 1.12 patch, but the fact that they more or less BEG the players for idea's just proves that blizzard has no clue whatsoever as to what to do with Diablo2. If only the department of Blizzard north was able to buy the rights of D2 when they left....:(

Don't hold your breath on 1.12

MichelRPG

25-01-2007, 19:43

I shall use reverse quotations on you sir!

Don't hold your breath on 1.12

Don't be so sure on that one. They just might surprise you and everyone else.

Now I shall take your ear!

Crazyace

10-02-2007, 02:11

the fact that D2 is being left alone, is the two main facts... outdated, and not enough income.
to the main topic of this post... if someone were to buy the rights to maintenance, or actually contact their administration of d2(which i know there is some) there could be some order put back into this game. im sure that they wouldnt mind taking on some volunteers who could do some bug finding/fixing and offering support to other players. if any of you want to get this game up and rolling, try talking with the company, not posting about it in an unnoficial forum.

to another post in this topic... i totally agree with how this games towns and everything are being overgrown with lag and deserted by the players. i love showing my friends the awsome details in this game that many people overlook. for instance,
-larzuk flexing
-throne of destruction floor(looks like puzzle)
-arreat summit view
-the bar in act 2

SilvusX

11-02-2007, 22:06

All I can say is, What the ****?
Claiming Blizzard is only making game for the money. Have you EVER noticed how much time every game was spent on and how long did it take for it to release?

Now look AT Command and Conquer series, they have red alert and all those crap. Those games pop up every once a year or less. Thats what you call, doing it for the money.

Starcraft Ghost isn't really cancelled, they are no longer working on it.

Initially, GameCube, Xbox and Playstation 2 versions of the game were in development, however the GameCube version was cancelled in November 2005 when an online multiplayer component was being developed for the game, seeing as GameCube's online play isn't supported as much as the other two systems. The Xbox and PS2 versions were put on indefinite postponing. Blizzard has teased gamers that they are working on a new Next-Gen game (Xbox 360 and PS3) that could be a next-gen version of SC:G. As the Xbox and PS2 stepped out of the limelight of gaming to make way for next-gen consoles, it's most likely that SC:G will end up on next-gen consoles.

Diablo 2 is pretty much bug free (lag and hacks are not bugs), every month it costs them money to keep the server running. IF they want profit and only profit, then they might as well as close Battle.net for Diablo II,LOD, SC,BW, Warcraft 2,3 /TFT and all the realms running in europe, asian and america.
They don't gain any money from these games anymore, or barely.

MichelRPG

11-02-2007, 22:28

They don't gain any money from these games anymore, or barely.

Which is why they don't update anymore. You only confirmed what we said earlier; if it doesn't bring in money anymore, blizzard doesn't care. Though in honesty, I believe if Blizzard North didn't leave Blizzard, the game would still have regular updates.

jungeMann

12-02-2007, 12:46

Dont worry pals when Hellgate:London comes out we all have a new place to stay!
I heard its made by those people who made d2 and then left Blizzard.

MichelRPG

12-02-2007, 17:25

Yes, its made by the former Blizzard North indeed. I am hoping the game will be such a tremendous success that they can buy the D2 licenses, so they can finally start with D3. I just love the storyline :)

Kettch

13-02-2007, 04:52

Yeah, I urge all of you disappointed w/ the current situation to check out Hellgate:London. Made by the Blizz North people, demons infest the world, and you have to kill them all, your general post-apocalyptic meyhem. What fun what fun. You may wait a few months before looking into it because it doesn't come out until this summer, and, being an on agian/off again professional DII addict myself, I did a little research on it and ended up back here to get my fix. =)

See you in the Underground.

Hasta

13-02-2007, 07:05

and I often cannot create my own games. My ping is almost constantly over 200, and I've seen it jump to the 1200's. I hope Blizzard isn't cutting off Diablo's bandwidth.

Are you joking 1200 is nothing!,

When i Lead Hell Baal runs on Ladder, (UsWest),(no i dont use a maphack or anything) usually by the time we reach game 4, my ping hits 2500ish*, just retarded, and it not only takes 2 min to go from wp to wp, but when i just give up and hit esc, it dosent let me leave the game lol.

Disregarding that last paragraph,

From what I have read, The Department in charge of d2 left. So even the idea of a new patch is just ridiculous, Blizzard cant do anything about d2 until it gets its workers back, which it won't because its pointless.

Diablo 2 is being left in the closet to be eaten by moths, vicious rabid moth's called duper's. There are no mothballs for this cause, simply because the owner has deserted it.

Diablo 2 Will Die, however sad and disapointing this will be, all its going to take is 1 random Network manager at blizzard to say, " this isent worth it, lets **** it".

Bam, Diablo 2 battlenet is closed, We are all ushered towards WoW.

This is awfully pessismistic, but it looks at the harsh reality of Buisness.

*P.S- This is my own theory here, concerning Blizzard north causeing the downfall of D2,

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Here it is,

The Anni Charm, is a highly sought after item, +1 Skills, 1 charm slot, but the way to achieve finding it is absolutly ridiculous, We have all seen the "9456 Stone of Jordans Sold to Vendors", sometimes we even see it in the 10,000's. But keep this in Mind, How would 3-4 people Amass 10,000 Soj's? obviously all are duped.

The Anni, the d-clone you would belive would be possible to spawn without dupeing, but this is not so.

Why would Blizz North put such an obvious cause for dupeing in this game?
My Answer: Blizz North knew they were leaving when they put this in, simply to screw Blizzard Over,

People Hear About Brutal Lag, Senseless Banning, This turns people away from d2, even if slowly, but it does. Thats really it.