Iratha's pros and cons

[WarlockCC]

Personally I am a fan of Iratha's, I think it's underrated by most.
Many people don't realise it's full potential. 65 res all, 10 to all max res, 25 dex, 20frw, 20ias, def per level on the helm and then some.


While that's true, you still lose out on the possibility of a +Skill, extra Life or Mana due to it's Str Req (except for an Ornadin or Barb since you'll need the Str anyways), and the fact that it shows 85 Max Res, assuming you max all Res, is really misleading unless you're sure that you have at least 120+ stacked Res above the 85.

I used to be a huge fan of Iratha's, and yes, it does have it's uses, but the set really doesn't compare to an assortment of nice Rares with high Res. I found that out for myself while dueling one of my friends who used to play a lot with her 380ish CR Blizzer on East SCNL vs my Iratha's + Hawkmail + 3-Sock PSaph Large Shield Blizzer. I didn't even scratch her with four on-target Blizzards, and she took me down to half life in one shot.

- Akukami
Indeed, Godly rares can definately be better, I wouldn't dispute that. Iratha's certainly won't help you attain that 85 res all, it is just great when one doesn't have complete sets of godly rares yet. Or when one has too many chars for the rares to go around. :)
vs Monsters one can slap on a GS(eeeuw, 80 str req) and a 3D. Naturally this won't make for the worlds best dueler, but it does help non-so-rich people and high ladder paladins.
For a pvp Blizzer I don't think one should even be able to get that 55 str req on Iratha's crown.

For a dueler I think I might use Iratha's though. As long as I also wear 40 cold res boots(sigons) and 2 times 30 cold res rings if needed.
65 res from Iratha's, 15 from hawk, 120 from the lame(I use them even though I agree with Zodi that they are a bit lame, but they are a poor man's resort) shield, 40 from boots, 60 from rings. (In an ideal case that is).
That does give one a total of 300 cold res. Minus 50, that still leaves 250 in Hell. - 155 from the max cold mastery cold sorc wearing SoJs, silks, tarn, +2 amu and a +2 staff or Sigons shield and culwins point, still leaves 95 cold res, which is the same as shown on the char screen. :)
Not sure if a cold sorc can actually take 155 from your res if you do have that res stacked.
75 normal max + 10 max from Iratha's + 15 from hawkmail = 100, but max res is capped at 95.

This does offcourse seriously limit one to fighting cold sorcs exclusively, but it would provide adiquate protection against cold sorcs on any char.
Naturally a good balance between damage(offence) and resistance(defence) is only possible with rares. I guess Iratha's is more for the defensive player.
More often then not, sorcs do not wish to fight my charger after they see what little damage they do to him. So the dispute is resolved peacefully rather then piecefully.

[mhl12]

true i find iratha's especially useful in duels against sorcs. Put on all of iratha's and hotspurs against a fire sorc and that should be it.

[WarlockCC]

I find Bverrit can be nice against firesorcs, if your char has the str for it (combined with crushflange for some more str and another 50 fire res).
Then at least you don't have to put on the default 3Ruby and they won't complain about that, cause they see a blue-ish shield. :)

[Rawly]

I find Bverrit can be nice against firesorcs, if your char has the str for it (combined with crushflange for some more str and another 50 fire res).
Then at least you don't have to put on the default 3Ruby and they won't complain about that, cause they see a blue-ish shield. :)

Fire sorcs have no way of reducing your resistance so why do you need to stack it against them, you would need a max of 145% in hell which is easy enough with normal gear.

[fledgeling]

you can get 50 more cold resist by drinking the potions
I think it also gives 10% higher resistance for some time (75->85)

not that I like it, but some people use it in SvS, so dont forget to include it in the calculations

(just drink 20 potions before the duel for 200second duration)

[WarlockCC]

Fire sorcs have no way of reducing your resistance so why do you need to stack it against them, you would need a max of 145% in hell which is easy enough with normal gear.
I'll just presume you mean fire res and/or lightning res. :)
Bverrit gives 75 fire res and Crushflange gives 50, which is 125 if I'm not mistaken.
Offcourse if you don't need the extra fire res of the crushflange it's still handy for the str it gives. That 15 str goes a long way towards the Bverrit's 75 str req (I never said it would be easy to lift :) )

Sometimes you fight in teams against fire sorcs and FoH's/Necs(with lower resist). Or they just team up on you. In those cases, stacked f or l res will save your b-hind.
As for pvm, in CS you will definately need to stack your fire res against Oblivions' lower resist curse and in general it helps against boss's Conviction.
you can get 50 more cold resist by drinking the potions
I think it also gives 10% higher resistance for some time (75->85)

not that I like it, but some people use it in SvS, so dont forget to include it in the calculations

(just drink 20 potions before the duel for 200second duration)
I am not certain if the time of the potions stacks. I don't think it does.
It does indeed give you 10% to max. Both the poison and cold one do that.
Often I take a stamina, anti-poison and anti-freeze with my healer before I dive into CS. His res isn't really great. :)

[Karamba]

Nice thread Warlock ...

I really love this set , isn't that hardy to find and can k.. a lot of ..ss

Lot of people say that Iratha's set is for noobs and things like that , but anyway ,i think that Iratha's the best gear for any BvC (gives some frw , dex and some resists :grin:)...

[Demek]

i liked it but:
1) its too heavy for pure vita sorc (even with 15 str fcr rings)
2)its too heavy for pure vita din (i dont have those rings either :rolleyes: )
3)it rules out angelics for mf barb
it just doesnt suit the way i make and gear my chars

[WarlockCC]

On my woestave barb I use full Iratha's, a dual leech ring, Angelic ring and Angelic armor. I don't quite see how Angelics are ruled out. :)

[Demek]

i meant mf on them
u hell with him ? :)

[WarlockCC]

yes, he wears gobs, otherwise it would take too long.

[Zodijackyl]

i liked it but:
1) its too heavy for pure vita sorc (even with 15 str fcr rings)
2)its too heavy for pure vita din (i dont have those rings either :rolleyes: )
3)it rules out angelics for mf barb
it just doesnt suit the way i make and gear my chars

Twitch and two high strength rings will let you go 15 base strength, and if your price range of gear is aiming for Irathas, then you probably shouldn't be going pure vita anyway. Irathas is good for a cheaper sorc where you don't have access to a lot of items (or on HC where there are fewer trades available), so it works well on HC.

[Demek]

agreed
in that situation i find mfing nm with mf rather than resists more profitable, since u get enough mid lvl rares to use hell andy bug and go further

[Creon]

I am not certain if the time of the potions stacks. I don't think it does.
No, it does.

[Zodijackyl]

I don't understand why you would expect Irathas to be great PvP, it's a cheap PvM setup and not much more. MF setups can cost about as much, have lower resist and find you better gear.