LLD Barb Idea

[Kyl]

Hello, i am in need of a guide for a low level dueler conc/bo barb. Please place a comment stating weather this sounds like an okay idea or not, because i have a grushed barb lvl 30 ready with no points used, and i have half of these items on other LLD chars, and could easily get the rest. This barb will be a teamer with a lvl 18 zealer and lvl 24 fire trapper, that is if i decide to make it.

I was thinking...

Skill points;

Warcries:
1 howl
1 shout
6 battle orders (also a synergy to Concentrate)
1 battle commands
(9/42)

Combat Masteries:
1 in whatever mastery my weps shall be (most probably sword if no one can think of a better set of weapons to use than 2 x Culwen's Points)
1 increased stamina
1 increased speed
1 iron skin
1 natural resistences
(14/42)

Combat Skills:
15 bash (synergy to Concentrate)
1 stun
12 concentrate
(42/42)

Items;

Honestly, i have no idea here. So i will take a punt...

Helmet: A +2 barb skills w/ +3 warcries or +3 combat skills with fhr and life mods. Also socketed with a perfect ruby (No idea if this exists, and if it did lvl req may be touchy)
Amulet: Eye of Etlich, simply for +1 to all skills and life steal.
Armor: Skin of the Vipermagi, for +1 to all skills and an ok defense. Also socketed with a perfect ruby or a PUL for 30% EDef.
Weapons(1): 2 x Culwen's Points. These look great, with +1 to all skills, 20% IAS, 20% FHR, average 23-25 damage, 60 to AR, and 80% EDmg. Double that and you have some nasty concentration (i assume). I will socket each one but am not sure what to socket with. I was thinking an IO each for vitality. And also a combo of NEF for knockback and ETH for -25% target defense, or instead of a NEF, seeming knockback can be annoying for the user (i find that anyway), an AMN for 7% life steal, and even SHAEL, for even farther IAS.
Weapons(2): I will look for some lower WC Javs to switch out and sing. I don't really care what goes in these socketing-wise, not very important.
Rings: 2 x Rare rings, one i have. +20 to life and +6 replenish life with 6 to all resistences.
Belt: Death's Guard. Cannot be frozen.
Gloves: Death's Hand. Receives 8% life steal, +15 resistences and 30% IAS with Death's Guard.
Boots: Cow King's Hooves. Just plain good LLD boots.

Stats;

Strength: Base, i will use some strength charms i have.
Dex: None
Vitality: All
Energy: Why was this attribute even put into the game?

That is just a guess at what it would be, i honestly have no idea here. Please correct if you have any better ideas. I am under the impression that Concentrate does life steal, if not please say so.

-Kyl

[batuchka]

Well i dun do PvP but lifesteal is more of a PvM thing as the penalties in PvP after .09 IIRC makes it irrelevant (unless lifetap curse is used which is BM) I would say u may want to invest in a shield/block, address AR as well as getting damage up via pre lvl 30 max/ar charms. Perhaps rethink gear options assuming this is under lvl 30 duelling :P For example instead of swords i would go for axes - in particular a naga because it has one of the highest one hand dmg for exceptional weapons. Also maybe runewords such as 'Honor' in weapon or 'Lore' in a +3bo barb helm would be nice for lvls 30 and under. 'Spirit' broad swords could be used for BO prebuff. 'Rhyme' in grim shield offers reasonable block and cannot be frozen which ought to be important considering concentrate is a swing attack. Sanders boots offer stats, frw *and* AR so that looks like sweet lld melee boots to me! Jewellry : angelic ring + ammy = AR and 75 life (before BO) Hope i helped :D

[sirmessbu]

Forget about life leech for duelling, seriously even tho its been proven that you can leech in duel, the amount you will leech is absolutly pathetic.
With all pvp penalty to leech and damage you might have to reach 100% life leech to get a 2% leech result. (not the exact numbers but trust me on that don't rely on leech).
The only way to decently leech in duel is using life tap curse and is usually considered bad manered and I don't think you can get charges of it at level 30.

The strength of a dueler is usualy its ability to block and deal the best damge you can get. You could also make a build wich doesn't require blocking but in that case use a 2 hand weapon.

Using concentration with 2 1-hand weapon is not the best choice since concentrate only attack with the primary weapon.


Your skill setup seems pretty appropriate but the items might need some tweaking.


Helm; A nice rare barb only helm would be awesome, a good alternative is peasant crown socketed with either a damage jewel or a perfect ruby.


Amy; common choice is angelic amy with 1 or 2 angelic rings( insane attack rating boost with all the other sweet mods it gives). You might find a slighty better rare amy.


Armor; I am not too sure about wich one is better but a 4 socket armor filled with max damage jewels is a good choice. Don't forget if you still wish to use the vipermage that pul rune would up its requirements to level 45. Many of the unique armor have great stats for dueling, just to name a few (Twichtroe/rockfleece/rattlecage)

Weapon1; either use a 1 hand weapon with a shield or a 2 hand weapon, at level 30 rares are your friends.
For 1-hand, a good socketed weapon with 4-6 socket filled with max damage jewels can get you a higher damage then many uniques. Also consider the runeword previously mentioned by Batuchka.

For 2-hand take a good look at bonesnap and steeldriver and don't forget about insight runeword in etheral eceptional polearm(even if its not granting indestructible or repair per seconds the cost of one of those is well worth using it in duel and remaking one when it breaks)

Shield (optional); Runeword Rhyme offers a very nice blocking rate wich reduce your need for dexterity to reach max block, cause if you plan on using a shield you definatly need to aim to max block(75%) and don't forget to walk when near opponents in those case. Consider rare shield with bonus to block with 2 socket and try to stick some max damage jewel in there.


Weapon2; dont forget that javs cannot be socketed.

Rings; 2 angelic rings wich grant 20 life each and some very nice bonus. If you feel you have enough attack rating with only 1 go ahead for a rare ring on 2nd slot.

Usual choice for the belt/gloves and boots like you stated.

Manage to learn the ias breakpoint(if you don't know about breakpoints already, let me know and Ill do my best to explain) for the weapon you will plan to use and aim for the faster you can get without getting your damage too low.


If you still have any question don't hesitate. Ill do my best to have a look at this thread as often I can manage. Of course if anyone have better suggestion go ahead and correct any of my errors.

[PhatTrumpet]

With those weapons and that setup, you'd be doing about 100 listed average damage, which is 17 average PvP damage. Needless to say, you're going to need much better weapons than those. Even Bloodletter blows the pants off of Culwen's, not that I'm suggesting you use Bloodletter.

This isn't a caster; you don't need all those +skills. Vipermagi should be replaced with some sort of +life/+maxdmg armor (ideally an Artisan's Mage Plate of [life mod] socketed with max dmg jewels, unless you have some really high defense rare to take advantage of your Concentrate defense bonus), as should the helm.

See others' comments about dual-wielding and suggested jewelery.

[Maccat]

Alright, I've had some expertise in a LLD Conc Barb and you're far off on a lot of things.

Helmet: A +2 barb skills w/ +3 warcries or +3 combat skills with fhr and life mods. Also socketed with a perfect ruby (No idea if this exists, and if it did lvl req may be touchy)
Amulet: Eye of Etlich, simply for +1 to all skills and life steal.
Armor: Skin of the Vipermagi, for +1 to all skills and an ok defense. Also socketed with a perfect ruby or a PUL for 30% EDef.
Weapons(1): 2 x Culwen's Points. These look great, with +1 to all skills, 20% IAS, 20% FHR, average 23-25 damage, 60 to AR, and 80% EDmg. Double that and you have some nasty concentration (i assume). I will socket each one but am not sure what to socket with. I was thinking an IO each for vitality. And also a combo of NEF for knockback and ETH for -25% target defense, or instead of a NEF, seeming knockback can be annoying for the user (i find that anyway), an AMN for 7% life steal, and even SHAEL, for even farther IAS.
Weapons(2): I will look for some lower WC Javs to switch out and sing. I don't really care what goes in these socketing-wise, not very important.
Rings: 2 x Rare rings, one i have. +20 to life and +6 replenish life with 6 to all resistences.
Belt: Death's Guard. Cannot be frozen.
Gloves: Death's Hand. Receives 8% life steal, +15 resistences and 30% IAS with Death's Guard.
Boots: Cow King's Hooves. Just plain good LLD boots.

Honour (any item really, but I suggest Naga or Divine Scepter)
Ethereal Rare Ornate Plate (repair durability, 100% ed, hit recovery, life) OR Peace Armor (+2 Critical Strike and FHR)
Rhyme Grim Shield
Angelic Amulet
Angelic Ring
Angelic Ring
Rare Barbarian Helmet with good defence
String of Ears
Bloodfists or Sanders Taboo (depending on your IAS needed)
Sanders or Cow King's (I prefer Sander's for the +100 AR and more FRW)

Switch:

Dual Echoing

I'd max your mastery before you max bash. Mastery > damage synergy.