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ive been shopping lately looking for a jewelers phase of quickness and it started to get me thinking. what if there was a dueling leaque just for druids using all magical items. no rares, sets, uniques or crafted and no runewords ^^. it would be kinda crazy. the only allowed items would be magicals: items, charms, jewels.
it would require alot of thinking when making your character and alot of shopping. everyones build would be unique because of no uniques or runewords. think, the ultimate fury weps be cruel phase of quickness and cruel fanged of quickness. and to have a 4 frame FC bear the only possible wep would be a jewelers phase of quickness. maybe since resist would be such a problem it could be only physical dmg druids such as, maul, hunger, fury, etc. truth is, it would be alot easier to get the elemental dmg with this stuff because of the charms than it would be for physical.
the best part about it would be that each and everyone ones druid would be original and unique. hmm, maybe runes could be allowed in it, to give the resist and dmg reduce so all type of melee druid would be allowed.
think of a fury wolf with a cruel fanged knife of quickness, jewelers monarch of delfecting, jewelers plate of stability, +2 helm with some good plus skills, plus 3 skill ammy with life, two rings with attack rating, you know lol ^^. damn... i just think it would be so fun lol.
what ya guys think
almosty everyone wolf would try for any kinda cruel of quickness to hit a decent frame =D
edit: and it would make weapons like grinding fanged knife or quickness sought after too. alot more than just cruels and what not. i think i might make one anyways just for the heck of it =D
if this get serious we can set up rules and everything.
edit: maybe no charms would be allowed? classic never needed em ^^
so only blue items, jewels, and runes. and to ensure the opponent didnt have charms, they would show their stash full of items =D
i better go find me a +3 shape shift 90 life helm and a lvl 1 enchant charge weapon lol
dodobird
13-12-2006, 06:58
Gems too?
I think the runes should be limited to a lvl. Otherwise I can already imagine the whole point of this thing going down the drain. Meaning Ber'd armors, Cham'd weapons, etc. Probably allow zod though, the poor thing has suffered quite some abuse in 1.11, and its actually quite useful.
-Dodo
Im in ill start collecting blue items for werewolves.
hmm, we need to figure out a set of rules for this. ive already begun searching for blues for my wolf.
i think we need to discuss the use of runes. i know if all runes are allowed ill try probably cham a piece of armor, and enough ber for DR and shael for FHR and then some runes for vit. hmm dunno, should we allow gems?
what do you guys think, lets try to lay down a whole set of rules so when we get this going people who join will have a gyst of what to go by. some topics of discussion.
charms? i think charms shouldnt be allowed because they can boost up a move liek fireclaws or rabies just way too much. the purpose of this is kinda trying to make your character just from all his magical armors. but thats me, what do you guys think?
gems? i think gems are actually a good idea, ide like a p ruby in my armor and helm =D
runes? should we allow all? some? i know some runes like shael are needed, maybe we could allow a cap on PDR? like 25% (or 3 bers 24%). since alot of us may be using lower than normal dmg weps, ie grinding fanged knife of quickness, and magic items dont really supply big dmg boost.
jewels? i think maybe all jewels(except facets and rares) should just be allowed just cause they make stuff look cool ^^, and ed/ias jewels will boost up our wacky blues weps.
help me out kiba and dodo ^^
ide like a set of rules before i make my fury wolf (awoooo)
ima make a new wolf just for this n_n
so far im looking for any decent cruel of quickness that will hit 5 frames with 2 shaels for a weapon
jewelers armor of stability
sturdy belt of stability
jewelers monarch
+3 ss ammy with life
+3 ss helm with life
Verashiden
13-12-2006, 07:49
Is there going to be a lvl cap for this? I'm not a big fan of HLD. However, this seems rather interesting so I'd be willing to HLD.
Charms shouldn't be allowed. Some people can get shape lifers pretty easily : /
Runes are an interesting problem. Disallowing them balances the system somewhat yet really makes the matches drag on.
I don't think any PDR would work. The most someone will be pulling (unless Titan) should be ~6k (I think). After PVP penatly that's about 800 dmg. Factor in max block (which most will have) and you have pretty shoddy dmg :P.
verashiden, you make some nice points.
i think runes add some originality to peoples builds though. where some will have shaels others will have kos and fals and jahs and what not. i dont think there should be a lvl cap, just incase anyone wants to use one of their old druids whom happens to be say lvl 90.
i think charms are too easy to come by where as a magical belt with strength and life will require some shopping around, literally shopping npcs ^^
so i think charms shouldnt be allowed at all
why do you think physical dmg reduction would work? i dont really understand, but maybe ber could be the one rune banned?
my main issue is, should this be limited to ONLY physical dmg dealing druids???
how are these rules?
Only Magical items may be equipped
NO charms of any kind
All Runes are allowed
Gems are allowed
Only magical jewels may be used
Only Shapeshifters are allowed
hows that for a set of rules?
dodobird
13-12-2006, 08:35
Yea, I think no Bers, and maybe some other runes should be banned to stop this from turning into a gong show. As for gems, they give good bonuses, are often overlooked, and definitely available to everyone. Charms should also be banned, as we're trying to gear more toward an old school/ unique type of equip setup, and it seems charms would also be more of a rich man's thing, and not equally available to all commers. (the equality / uniqueness is what we're looking for right?)
The phys dmg part sounds pretty decent as well, mostly because I really don't feel like chasing around rabiers lol. However, this does put some limitations on build diversity, so I don't really see much problem to FC or the like?
A good lvl for this...how about like 80 or so, decent enough for skills, and not overly dragged out.
Also, this should probably be held on USeast since we need some druids, and its warmer here anyway. Also almost all gear is shopped so yay for coming over, and some of you guys have too many funds for this on West for me not to be scared lol. That and I may have already some gear for this on East...
Or is this a multi-realm thing? Not sure if there's enough of us spread out for this to work?
-Dodo
this should be done on one realm. that is a good idea to get us together, you know if this works out we can allow zealots and other melee chars with magical items, that would be cool ^^
ok ites definate charms are not allowed.
80 is a decent lvl cap, but it would be cool to have a lvl 99 with all blue ^^
lets discuss some reasons as to pros and cons of having a lvl cap.
and as for runes, what runes should be banned? definately not shael ^^ lol
we should discuss this.
we should maybe make a poll as to what realm it should be on, and find out who will play if they have to switch realms.
i agree that chasing around a raby wolf would be annoying. but a 4 emerald shield maybe would help against a raby wolf ^^.
main areas of discussion so far:
what runes banned?
what realm?
ToThePoint
13-12-2006, 09:46
jewellers life
30max jewels
cruels of quick
are not exactly cheap or much worse than the stuff used now if using that as an arguement
I'm in. = P
East or West don't matta' to me
oh yeah, are windy/fire hybrids allowed? Say, you make a Fury wolf that has tornado can u use tornado for flexibility at times?
Pets allowed too right...
I could max Grizzly and HoW and go Fury and no one wouldn't complain if the grizzly slugs them right?
not about being cheap,just about originality, being unique, bring pvp to is basics, and having a whole lot of fun ^^. anyone can shop a jewelers armor and find a decent frame druid weapon. its about people going and shopping magical items and making a druid out of it and having fun. ive spent a couple hours shopping now and found a 3 soccet 10 life helm and some nice weps i would use.
i know ide much enjoy seeing what weapons people would be using =D
true though that those 30max jewels and jewelers of stability/life arent cheap.
but i know ide spend alot to get a ferocious/grandmasters/cruel/ and even fools fanged knife of quickness for my guy. ide probably soccet shaels and ruby's in most my stuff ^^
but i do know, that even though its only magical items, some of them can get hella pricy. Oo
as of right now theres not really any set rules. except all magical items, and no charms. as for the rest, we have to wait until we get a little group together then discuss rules, ie allowed build, banned runes, what realm, etc
i dont see anything wrong with having your bear running around, cept he might do some major dmg to someone in all magical items lol
as for the elemental tree everythign just unclear yet. ide like more of a shapeshifting only deal but its not up to just me =D
would you guys want ladder or non ladder?
Verashiden
13-12-2006, 17:56
Ladder :P.
also, the bear should be fine. I could always use a leech target XD.
dodobird
13-12-2006, 18:00
ladder ftw
Summerfun
13-12-2006, 18:18
I would love this! but im on europ so if this happens on east/west i would have to start from nothing....
but im in
well im startin my druid from scratch. shopping all my items of larzuk mainly and act 2 and probably gonna soccet all shaels and p rubys. i just want a decent 4 frame weapon. but i realised before i and others start shopping around we should decide what realm. how does west sound ^^ anybody that wouldnt play if it was in west? we really need to choose a realm ><
so how does this sound for runes... every rune allowed all the way up to fal +zod?
it gives us runes with resist, speed, ar and all some good stats and leaves out all the modifiers like open wounds, deadly strike, crushing blow.
so these would be the rules as of now:
1) ShapeShifters only, and summons are allowed.
2) Only magical items may be equipped
3) No charms what so ever
4) Only jewels allowed are magical, no rare and unique
5) Any rune up to Fal is allowed, all runes beyond are banned WITH THE
6) EXCEPTION OF ZOD NOT BEING BANNED.
7) All gems are allowed
8) Lvl cap of 80
9) No mercenaries
10) HAVE FUN!!!!
the ten commandments ^^
good reason for a lvl cap is because it may be harder to get above lvl 80 with only magical items, especially for those whom switch realms because they wont be able to use items to lvl from their other characters(since they wont have any ^^)
please tell me what you think of the listed rules above! =D
and if this starts on west ill trade a couple trapper/life charms for a huge surplus of shaels and p gems so i can help everyone out n_n
dodobird
14-12-2006, 00:51
you forgot:
11)Thou shalt gather in realm USeastL
=P
East coast girls are hipper...
-Dodo
Let's just hold it in West, since more people happen to be from there anyways.
Either way you'll have to start anew if your gonna' compensate for your build. Think about it, your strength requirements won't even uphold on your present druid without all your shiznat on your druid anyways--so you'll have to start anew either way :P
Besides the druid I started is already lvl 10 on west and I'da wasted 3 legitimate hours during prefinals week for nothing then >< haha
dodobird
14-12-2006, 07:53
Maybe some of us had some gear muled, and perhaps had a lvl 75 druid shell mule... >.>
I have Bio & Calc on friday, I feel so bent over. I think I'm gonna stalk up on beer tomorrow...
XP
damn finals must suck ><
ill be applying for LAPD in a couple months, that academy is gonna suck ><
i say we hold it on west too =D
ive already spent hours upon hours of shopping, and havent found more than 2 decent items yet ><
Summerfun
14-12-2006, 12:23
I really dontr care if its on east or west. Either way im in!
some questions though. how do you get CBF without cham?
Without BER we are all going with 0% DR?
Would anyone rush my new druid on east/west so i can get some shopping going?
ToThePoint
14-12-2006, 16:19
could always just ban cold damage then cbf is no problem :)
Summerfun
14-12-2006, 16:39
thats true, just sad if you find a nice item and it has +1 or any cold dmg and then its banned
NONONononono... we are not banning cold damage... I mean someone'd just have to put points into cyclone and a point into hurricane and just F-everyone up.
We should allow choice of like One Cold immune item:
-a ravenfrost
-a Cham
- or a Trang Belt
Of course Trang belt is good but you might lose 24% fhr from another belt etc etc, so I'd say its a legitimate tradeoff. Oh yeah, and if you Cham an item you'll lose out maybe on life or fhr, so yeah.
This sounds fun and all, but we dont wanna water this down too much or else it'll become *** as hell. Cold damage isn't cheap its just part of the game so we should provide an option or means for people to prevent it at least if they choose to : /
wut you think?
i think cold dmg should be allowed. just be a cheap tactic that we can use sometimes. like say your using a cruel legenday mallet and your fighting a guy with a weapon alot faster, that cold dmg will really bring you both on par ^^
just part of the tactics used with blues. i also believe all charges on blues should be allowed too. FC and rabies could do a quick little lower resist charge from a magical wand, or Furys can do a weaken charge. some gloves have cold arrow charges also. that be cool, run up to druid shoot cold arrow, shapeshift then firy away.
i think that the Blue Druids Dueling League (BDDL) should be held on west.
for all you who would have to switch realms, maybe we can setup a private rush all at once. that way you can all lvl up quickly and start shoppin. also, you will all still have your forges which can score you some gems and runes for your items.
ive also been saving up on all the decent items i find to give to others once we start this up. and like i said, im gonna trade a couple charms to build up a surplus of allowed runes and gems to give out ^^
dodobird
14-12-2006, 21:44
can this mass rush be next week sometime?
and would Cham be allowed only as a cbf item? doesn't look like it'll really matter for me, west nubs dunt have chams, i'll be decked out in gems though.
=P
i dont think we should allow a trangs belt or raven frost.
just because they arent magical items =D
we cant put too many ifs and or buts into this n_n
so i say we allow all the runs up to fal (as stated before) and cham and zod.
that way we dont have to substitute an entire item for CBF, just one soccet.
and as for elemental skills, as jary stated using hurricane, do we want to allow any elemental skills at all? i mean cyclone armor can be used but do we want nething else?
i know im gonna be just fury vs melee ^^
decked out like a jewelery store, gems all over ^^
is there anybody who could conduct this mass rush? it would greatly be appreciated =D
we could set up a time and date and people could sign up for it ^^
Summerfun
14-12-2006, 22:48
i think CHAM should be allowed in Armor or helm.
I would like to get rushed as soon as possible. i have a lot of spare time the next couple of days, so id like to start shopping.
On europe i have like 5 or 6 accounts with old chars and allmost non items.
If any one have that on west could i "borrow" on? just so i can start shopping
even faster.
Btw, is this west ladder or non?
Does anybody have any oppositions to these rules? if not we can finalize them and start worrying about lvling and items ^^
1) ShapeShifters only, and summons are allowed too.
2) Only magical items may be equipped
3) No charms what so ever
4) Only jewels allowed are magical, no rare and unique
5) Any rune up to Fal is allowed, all runes beyond are banned WITH THE
6) EXCEPTION OF CHAEM AND ZOD NOT BEING BANNED.
7) All gems are allowed
8) Lvl cap of 80
9) No mercenaries
10) HAVE FUN!!!!
lets all agree and get this bad boy going ^^
west ladder. i only have one account so i cant help, maybe somebody else can lend an old account out so a few of the foriegners can shop ^^
i think CHAM should be allowed in Armor or helm.
I would like to get rushed as soon as possible. i have a lot of spare time the next couple of days, so id like to start shopping.
On europe i have like 5 or 6 accounts with old chars and allmost non items.
If any one have that on west could i "borrow" on? just so i can start shopping
even faster.
Btw, is this west ladder or non?
its lwest ladder, if you want to get rushed soon as possible just offer your forges i guess. runes are pretty easy to come by right now and so if you find some decent uniques of baal or pindle or what not then ya can probably score the runes ya need n_n
ToThePoint
15-12-2006, 00:24
and what nice item might you have with cold damage?
magic items are max of 2 mods so to use up 50% of your available mods to slow someone is pretty cheap.
also why the hell you need zod anyway?
Summerfun
15-12-2006, 00:34
I realise that i would take AGES to find a CFKoQ so if im lucky enough to find a CFK with cold dmg, i would use it anyway.
exactly, today i shopped a cruel something of frost. cant remember what it was but i threw it out for low dmg. if it had been better i would have used it though =/
zod, to make indestrutable silly ^^
no but really, zods mods doesnt effect a duel much and ide zod a nice eth item for some style points. i can already see the BDDL turning into a fashion show, whos got the sexiest blues ^^
man about 2 hours ago i shopped a nice cruel/swiftness and only got one soccet ><, F'in larzuk ><
MaStAViC
15-12-2006, 04:27
I am not sure if I'd be in yet, as I am building my general PvP WW Druid at the moment, but I really like this idea. I recently posted concerning honorable/private dueling leagues in the PvP section of Diabloii.net's forum, and this could be something like that.
To start, I can give everyone a rush. Typically, I rush people often (several times a week) and all of my rushes are completely free of charge and open to the public.
Let me know how this goes; I'll be monitoring this thread.
Thanks for the idea, vvild, and thanks to everyone who is supporting this.
I got my starter weapon already! 299% Cruel Weapon! (http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/360/scrueltp3.jpg)
-=MaStA ViC
I am not sure if I'd be in yet, as I am building my general PvP WW Druid at the moment, but I really like this idea. I recently posted concerning honorable/private dueling leagues in the PvP section of Diabloii.net's forum, and this could be something like that.
To start, I can give everyone a rush. Typically, I rush people often (several times a week) and all of my rushes are completely free of charge and open to the public.
Let me know how this goes; I'll be monitoring this thread.
Thanks for the idea, vvild, and thanks to everyone who is supporting this.
I got my starter weapon already! 299% Cruel Weapon! (http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/360/scrueltp3.jpg)
-=MaStA ViC
HAHAheehee... should we allow a weapon that broken into duels? ><
nice weapon, it slays my cruel war sword ><
vic, thanks so much for offering to rush!!!!!!!!!!
i was worried noone would offer. hopefully the guys migrating over for this and yourself can work out a day to do a couple rushes ^^
and also, ive been saving up jeweler items and what not for those who are coming over here and will be completely broke. just so ya know ^^
i hope all this works out ^^
case we need to start dueling soon =D
MaStAViC
15-12-2006, 11:15
No problem; I'm happy to help and am excited to see this idea of yours take off and put into action. I rush most of the time when people ask me to, which is pretty often since it seems like everyone I have rushed in the past adds me to their friends list... lol.
Would be a good idea for people who are interested in this dueling league to set a time for me to rush them though. Makes it faster for all of us.
Message *mastavic if you need help,
-=MaStA ViC
Summerfun
15-12-2006, 13:59
well, i would really like the rush. How about we do it sunday at some time?
That should give everyone a fair chance.
dodobird
15-12-2006, 18:47
Sat afternoon would probly be better, because Sat morning is hangover, Sat night is more drinking, etc... I just finished writing Bio final, just that damn Calc one left... *faints.
-Dodo
MaStAViC
15-12-2006, 20:08
I may not be available this entire weekend, but I could be wrong. Starting next Monday, I will most likely be working 50-55 hour weeks for about six weeks, but will have time in the evening (PST) to play the game and help rush people. Even though I would prefer a group rush, I have no problems rushing a person at a time, especially if it's for Blue Druids Dueling League.
-=MaStA ViC
I appreciate the offer and I'll take it into concideration.
I usually just lvl the old fashioned way, just kill everything and collect all the wp's till lvl 25.
i gotta get my druid going ^^
lol, imagine a couple months later Blue Druid Dueling League has blown up and magical items are sought after like crazy ><
Life/Fhr Belt = GG n_n
if you guys can set up a mass rush date ill hop along it too, but i can most like pull the old fashion way as hjary stated
MaStAViC
16-12-2006, 00:02
I don't mind the leveling as the game was intended to be played, but I would like to distribute my stat points accordingly, after I get the items that I will be using. I just do not like wasting stat points at all, I guess.
Whisper me at *mastavic for a free rush,
-=MaStA ViC
Summerfun
16-12-2006, 00:28
Sat afternoon would probly be better, because Sat morning is hangover, Sat night is more drinking, etc... I just finished writing Bio final, just that damn Calc one left... *faints.
I see your point. My problem is just that im going to a christmas party satturday at noon. Evil drinking spree, cya all monday or tuesday :prop:
Christmas dinner, beer, schnaps = 2 days FULL rest
"wasting points"... I'm not taking this that serious ><. Either way, you're gonna need a lot of strength and dexterity and vitality so you prolly won't even need to narrow it down till your like 60+, right
speaking of beer... ****. I gotta go get some and get to the bball game, lates.
i might have to end up getting rushed too now ><
i dont want to waste any points, i gtta find all my gearz too.
MaStAViC
16-12-2006, 11:02
I can do a rush right now if anyone is up for it, even though it is 2:00a.m. PST time =P
-=MaStA ViC
*mastavic
my build stats shouldn't be too tough... strength, strength and more strength :)
btw, can I get a list of contacts in West? : / that'd be really helpful
*vvild
thats me ^^
gotta get back to shoppin now ^^
Verashiden
17-12-2006, 04:22
Cruel War Scythe and War Sword! Now I need two socs to shael em : /
I was able too snag a Cruel thunder maul from ball run not too long ago lol, so it looks like i might pack the most punchin power if i decide too join in on your league vvild
oh really... nice :). (wouldn't that be like ridiculously slow though? )
oh really... nice :). (wouldn't that be like ridiculously slow though? )
yah it would be really slow even with 2 shael i think hehe
wow awesome, I want to get in on this for sure. i'll be in the grove today.
MaStAViC
17-12-2006, 08:25
I looked for everyone who posted in this thread last night, as well as in my thread, Let's Play with Each Other! Leave Your Account Names (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=517790), where I urged people to leave their account names, but I could not find anyone on. I gave three full rushes last night to a total of 19 people and it went pretty well. I am away at the moment and on a computer that does not have Diablo 2 installed, but will be back tomorrow night and can rush people starting then.
Add my account if you'd like a rush while I'm on,
-=MaStA ViC
*mastavic
you mean WHEN you join OUR league kiba =D
yeah i gotta snag up some stuff, hopefully i can get on when Masta Vic is on and snag me up a rush also ^^
and damn that maul will pack a punch.
the npcs keep offering Cruels of Quickness/Swiftness for low grade items ><
jokermwx
17-12-2006, 20:08
I would like to duel in the league. I play on West. I will Start a new acct just for Blue dueling. This idea might catch on with all characters.
Acct-JokerBlue
great joker ^^
yes, ive been thinking that if it takes off with us Druids than maybe we could invite other type of characters to join in; zealots, claw assassins, and what not. But for now, this is druids only =D (RhaWRRRR)
MaStAViC
17-12-2006, 22:49
Hey, vvild,
How's it going? Could we make this more official, with a complete set of official rules and such? I could help you out here if you'd like.
Also, regarding the name, should we change it just a bit? Instead of Blue Druids Dueling League, we could put a bit more information into it. For example, I used to be part of a dueling league called 76Legit, where all dueling characters must be level 76 or below, and the "legit" part of the name implied legit and honorable dueling. Additionally, perhaps we should remove "Druid" from the title of the league, since you (and I) would like for this league to grow to include other types of characters as well.
I am planning to post a thread regarding this in the PvP section of this forum to get more duelers to join us (that is, if you don't mind). A complete set of rules and such would really help for what I am planning to do.
If you feel as if I am running away with an original idea of yours, please let me know. I really want this league to work out and am thinking about what we can do in the future for it, including perhaps a tournament for it (I once hosted a tournament in the Druid forum that caught the attention of a lot of people, and we had a few dozen participants).
Thank you,
-=MaStA ViC
Vic, i agree with everything you have said. i would greatly appreciate your help =D.
i dont mind other types of duelers in it, just so long as i have a few fury wolves to box. as for rules, these were what we were going with so far:
1) ShapeShifters only, and summons are allowed too.(Guess this doesnt imply anymore ^^)
2) Only magical(Blue Text) items may be equipped
3) No charms what so ever
4) Only jewels allowed are magical, no rare and uniques
5) Any rune up to Fal is allowed, all runes beyond are banned WITH THE
6) EXCEPTION OF CHAEM AND ZOD NOT BEING BANNED.
7) All gems are allowed
8) Lvl cap of 80
9) No mercenaries
10) HAVE FUN!!!!
if you could help me get this bigger that would be great ^^
my only concern is should we allow this too every kind of character, or just melee. Ide like it just melee, but thats just me being lazy and only wanting to make a Fury vs melee wolf n_n
as for the name, we should rethink it then. I thought it sounded cool, but that was if you were a Druid lol. maybe we could have a everyone sumbit a name then we take them all and make a poll, and the best name will be chosen as the official name.
be great if this all worked out really well and we get a channel going and private games ^^
cant wait to duel with my magical gearz
so i guess my main concerns right now would be:
1) just melee builds or all builds
2) getting an official name
3) finding a cruel fanged knife of quickness n_n
MaStAViC
18-12-2006, 01:50
Sounds great, vvild! Again, if at any time you think I am doing more than I should, don't hesitate to let me know. I'm good at taking constructive criticism =)
Edited the rules for clarity (let me know if these work for you):
Blue Dueling League Main Rules
1) Druid Shape-Shifters (Werewolves and Werebears) only*. Duelers must remain in wereform at all times (e.g. duelers cannot shift into human form and teleport). All summons are allowed.
2) The character level cap is 80.
3) Only magical (blue text) items are allowed.
4) No charms, including the Annihulus and Torch charms, may be used.
5) Only magical jewels, not rare and unique jewels, are allowed.
6) Only runes from EL to FAL, with the exception of CHAM and ZOD, are allowed.
7) All gems are allowed.
*For now, only Druids may participate in this league. However, we are looking to expand to include other character classes as well.
General Honorable PvP Rules
1) No hacks of any kind (e.g. Maphack is banned).
2) No gold-stealing, no naked-killing, and no bad manners.
3) No healing and mana potions may be used.
4) No shrines may be used.
5) Dueling area must be cleared of monsters before dueling starts.
6) Items with charges are allowed, but charges from items may not be used.
7) Duelers cannot return to town after a duel officially starts. A return to town will result in a loss for that round.
7) No mercenaries may participate in duels.
8) If opponent or referee asks a dueler to show equipment, dueler must do so and cannot go to stash between doing so and starting duels.
A few things to work out:
-In which difficulty should duels take place? We should set duels to Normal, Nightmare, or Hell difficulty. I recommend Nightmare.
-How many rounds should a duel last? Does one kill count as one win, or is it first to three or five wins? I recommend first to three.
-How official do we want to make this? Should duelers post results and count the amount of wins? Of course, some people can participate in a "ladder" where we keep official records, and some may choose not to. Also, even those who would like to be kept in official records can duel for fun.
-General honorable dueling rules state that if a player drops from a game during a duel, that is an automatic loss for the dropped player. I am for this, but would like others' input before I make it part of the official rules for this league.
-Should we have a cap on Replenish Life? Most honorable leagues cap it at 20 or 25. DOL runes are allowed and some duelers may socket their items full of such runes. A part of me does not want a cap on Replenish Life because I think it could make for an interesting build for our league, but no cap on this mod may cause problems.
Regarding the name, a vote among duelers would be ideal. I would like to keep the "Blue" part of the name intact, as it describes the league well and adds a little magic (no pun intended) to it =) Perhaps we could just add more to the name, such as Blue 80 Dueling League; "80" to signify that there is a character level cap of 80.
By the way, the General Honorable PvP Rules section was written up by myself after looking at the rules of several honorable dueling leagues. Most of these leagues have a lot of rules, and I am trying to keep them to a minimal for this league.
I know rules may seen to make the league and duels not as fun, but I think it's a good idea to have rules nonetheless, and I think duels will be more fair and more fun with some official rules =)
Your thoughts? Thanks,
-=MaStA ViC
sounds good.
my vote is for Nightmare, too.
(since without charms our resists will suck, which I'd hate to admit, but it gives unfair advantage to fireclaw...all you'd need is a demon bow of quickness and 4-5k fireclaw and you'd almost never lose if it were hell and everyone has like -5 fire resist, ya know ><)
I like the rule on all blue (magical) items though. It puts more stress or emphasis on the item, and less on the Runes/Jewels. :)
Jary
aka *Jaryism
great stuff vic. and i agree with you jary >< in hell that would hurt
i have to go somewhere right now but when i get back ill give my input on all that was said =D
Yah nm is nice too since it makes oak phy immune.
Me and ink always 1vs1 fury duel in nm just for that hehe
Sounds great, vvild! Again, if at any time you think I am doing more than I should, don't hesitate to let me know. I'm good at taking constructive criticism =)
Edited the rules for clarity (let me know if these work for you):
Blue Dueling League Main Rules
1) Druid Shape-Shifters (Werewolves and Werebears) only*. Duelers must remain in wereform at all times (e.g. duelers cannot shift into human form and teleport). All summons are allowed.
2) The character level cap is 80.
3) Only magical (blue text) items are allowed.
4) No charms, including the Annihulus and Torch charms, may be used.
5) Only magical jewels, not rare and unique jewels, are allowed.
6) Only runes from EL to FAL, with the exception of CHAM and ZOD, are allowed.
7) All gems are allowed.
*For now, only Druids may participate in this league. However, we are looking to expand to include other character classes as well.
General Honorable PvP Rules
1) No hacks of any kind (e.g. Maphack is banned).
2) No gold-stealing, no naked-killing, and no bad manners.
3) No healing and mana potions may be used.
4) No shrines may be used.
5) Dueling area must be cleared of monsters before dueling starts.
6) Items with charges are allowed, but charges from items may not be used.
7) Duelers cannot return to town after a duel officially starts. A return to town will result in a loss for that round.
7) No mercenaries may participate in duels.
8) If opponent or referee asks a dueler to show equipment, dueler must do so and cannot go to stash between doing so and starting duels.
A few things to work out:
-In which difficulty should duels take place? We should set duels to Normal, Nightmare, or Hell difficulty. I recommend Nightmare.
-How many rounds should a duel last? Does one kill count as one win, or is it first to three or five wins? I recommend first to three.
-How official do we want to make this? Should duelers post results and count the amount of wins? Of course, some people can participate in a "ladder" where we keep official records, and some may choose not to. Also, even those who would like to be kept in official records can duel for fun.
-General honorable dueling rules state that if a player drops from a game during a duel, that is an automatic loss for the dropped player. I am for this, but would like others' input before I make it part of the official rules for this league.
-Should we have a cap on Replenish Life? Most honorable leagues cap it at 20 or 25. DOL runes are allowed and some duelers may socket their items full of such runes. A part of me does not want a cap on Replenish Life because I think it could make for an interesting build for our league, but no cap on this mod may cause problems.
Regarding the name, a vote among duelers would be ideal. I would like to keep the "Blue" part of the name intact, as it describes the league well and adds a little magic (no pun intended) to it =) Perhaps we could just add more to the name, such as Blue 80 Dueling League; "80" to signify that there is a character level cap of 80.
By the way, the General Honorable PvP Rules section was written up by myself after looking at the rules of several honorable dueling leagues. Most of these leagues have a lot of rules, and I am trying to keep them to a minimal for this league.
I know rules may seen to make the league and duels not as fun, but I think it's a good idea to have rules nonetheless, and I think duels will be more fair and more fun with some official rules =)
Your thoughts? Thanks,
-=MaStA ViC
-Duels taking place in nightmare is a great idea ^^, as everyone else feels too.
-i believe official duels should just be as many rounds as the two duelers feel is right, ie best out of 3 or best out of 5. but for tourneys we could have a set amount. and of course there will be lots of 1 round duels between all of us just havin fun. =D
-for how official we should make this you have it already perfect. i think for official duels that are kept as a point system there always has to be proof of the winning, screen shot or someone saying they were there. and we can keep a tally of who has the most wins =D, thats a great idea as you stated. we can have our own little Blue Ladder! maybe we can set up a little point table for all those who sign up and everytime they get a win and have proof it will be sumbited in the table. now im jst blabbering but we will think of something cool.
-for your general honorable dueling thats fine i think how you have it. if two are participating in a duel for our ladder system and one drops then thats a loss as you stated.
- as for life replenish, i do not think we should cap it. if they choose alot of life replensih they will be losing out on FHR, Life, Stats, and AR and all that other good stuff. so it will still be balanced out i believe. it if starts to be a problem then we could just set a cap to it. but i think it should just have no cap n_n.
i also want to say thanks for everyone who is helping out and joining along and thanks vic for helping me steer this in the right direction! =D
cant wait till we're all dueling =D
Possible name: Blue 80s Dueling Grove, haha =D
everyone submit ideas for a name ^^
it is going to be very hard to have decent resistances in theis league with current restrictions - 15 res jewels, prismatic amulets and res rings limit other aspects of the build - are you saying no runes because you don't want 4 ber monarchs? or 4 um armors?
if you are dueling a fire claw bear and want resist, though it may be cheap, just put on a 4 p ruby monarch. thats 160 fire res. gems give us all the resistance stuff we'll need. plus runes arent magical anyways and the purpose was to be all magical but so far we're gonna allow the most the runes. certain runes like ber and are pretty powerful and massivly duped and may be hard to come by for people transfering realms. plus, DR is not allowed, pretty hard to get it anyway withotu a ber ^^, and alot of druids will be doing small dmg. i know my druid is only doing 1.1k fury dmg. and hes using a pretty decent Cruel/Swiftness. alot of druids wont be swinging a big bat ><
im gonna have to go through all these pages and get everyones account names ^^
vic, are there any times your going to be on tomorrow(monday)? if so i could hopefully score a rush n_n
it is going to be very hard to have decent resistances in theis league with current restrictions - 15 res jewels, prismatic amulets and res rings limit other aspects of the build - are you saying no runes because you don't want 4 ber monarchs? or 4 um armors?
Because that'd make it lame, people stacking 50% dr when were all using underpowered weapons :)
You can still have other Gear... like I already made a 3xRal/24%fhr armor and I just got going >< If someone uses rabies (which I hope most people dont 'cause GRRRRRR) I think I'ma make a 4xTal armor...but we'll see; other than that, resists don't seem a big issue ya know.
If were in nm, assuming you get all the skill quests... the worst your resists will ever be is -10... so, yeah, not so terrible : /
except anya quests are bugged and once you die that first time, the res shows but isn't effective.
and when someone shows up with a cfkoq and 3k dmg you are going to be praying for max dr.
yup. but thats the way the cookie crumbles. that person will be a wolf among pups. but until then, AWOOOOO! 123dmg weapons For the win !! lol =D
dodobird
18-12-2006, 09:54
lvl 3 on west atm, *PLUE-nati0ns.
I think we should have a couple of teams so points for wins go to them. Plus, there'll be more incentive to help out/ bond, after all, USwest can be a scary place for a lonesome east coast wolf =P.
-Dodo
dodo ill add you to my friends list, do the same for me
*vvild
my blue dueler in lvl5 so far ^^. ive been shopping like crazy and have found a lot of decent items. ill make a list of what i can give away and who ever wants can just post and let me know and ill give ya it.
Well doesnt this just suck. I find out about a new dueling league that might acutally sound like a nice one for someone who who doesnt want to spend all his time MFing or trading, and is therefore a newb at dueling. And here I am without a computer with a decent enough connection to go online anymore.
Man this blows......oh well. when I get back online I shall have to join this awesomely nifty league.
look forward to duelin ya someday cudgel
lvl 18 now, with the Full staff... I'll wait A2 till you guys catch up so we can finish that ugly slug.
wow, does this mean I have the highest lvl Blue char? ... I feel like i'm already winning >< YES
lol, this is one awesome idea!!! Im going to have to join, and start searching for a perf Cruel Cryptic Sword of Quickness!!! 2os :shocked: Meanwhile, Ill have to start a char on west :prop:
thats great! the more the better, what will your account name be?
2 soc ccsoq isnt gonna hit 4 fpa.
Lol, yeah I know, but im wanting something new :P, wont be any fun if we're all running around with 10,000 Cruel Phase Blades of Quickness!
O, and before I forget, accnt name will be bogie3
two socket ccsoq will hit 5 frame with one jewel of fervor and a custom rune/jewel/etc. Sick damage. You don't need 4 frame anymore, this isn't 09.
Verashiden
19-12-2006, 07:46
Fools Crystal Sword of Quickness biatches.
GG :P
Still lvl 1 T-T
What about Cruel Feral Axes with ias? They seemed to have some pretty sick damage and speed even at base lvl
Verashiden
19-12-2006, 10:17
And Range 3 :)
I'm lvl 19 now. Poison creeper kills all when questing :)
Summerfun
19-12-2006, 18:36
Just made my acc on west ladder. /w *BlueLegit80
Lvl 1 char >.<, ill have to find some time this week to get him lvled :grin: , pure rabies for me :laugh:
vvOOt vvOOt
lvl 20 already ^^
lolly... I have an ed Axe with life tap charges... another one with weaken, now I just need a wand with prison = ) lol, I'm such a bastard
@Kiba
yo, I Just found a max damage/290ed 2hand colossus blade to give your lil' T-Maul a run... it'd be like battle of the slowest range 3 garbage :P Actually, that would be kinda fun... it'd look like someone put the duel in slow motion hehe.
that would be cool to watch. too bad i disposed of the Cruel Col blade i found ><.
shaweet, i found a jewelers ancient armor of mammoth today ^^
only 37 life but better than nothing. all i need s 60 more lvls and a jewelers monarch of delfecting and im good to go ^^
It would be very helpful if you guys can update the First Post to include the Agreed-upon rules.
Dont think i can edit the first post still. once this gets going more well make a more official thread =D
Blue Dueling League Main Rules
1) Druid Shape-Shifters (Werewolves and Werebears) only*. Duelers must remain in wereform at all times (e.g. duelers cannot shift into human form and teleport). All summons are allowed.
2) The character level cap is 80.
3) Only magical (blue text) items are allowed.
4) No charms, including the Annihulus and Torch charms, may be used.
5) Only magical jewels, not rare and unique jewels, are allowed.
6) Only runes from EL to FAL, with the exception of CHAM and ZOD, are allowed.
7) All gems are allowed.
*For now, only Druids may participate in this league. However, we are looking to expand to include other character classes as well.
General Honorable PvP Rules
1) No hacks of any kind (e.g. Maphack is banned).
2) No gold-stealing, no naked-killing, and no bad manners.
3) No healing and mana potions may be used.
4) No shrines may be used.
5) Dueling area must be cleared of monsters before dueling starts.
6) Items with charges are allowed, but charges from items may not be used.
7) Duelers cannot return to town after a duel officially starts. A return to town will result in a loss for that round.
7) No mercenaries may participate in duels.
8) If opponent or referee asks a dueler to show equipment, dueler must do so and cannot go to stash between doing so and starting duels.
A few things to work out:
-In which difficulty should duels take place? We should set duels to Normal, Nightmare, or Hell difficulty. I recommend Nightmare.
-How many rounds should a duel last? Does one kill count as one win, or is it first to three or five wins? I recommend first to three.
-How official do we want to make this? Should duelers post results and count the amount of wins? Of course, some people can participate in a "ladder" where we keep official records, and some may choose not to. Also, even those who would like to be kept in official records can duel for fun.
-General honorable dueling rules state that if a player drops from a game during a duel, that is an automatic loss for the dropped player. I am for this, but would like others' input before I make it part of the official rules for this league.
-Should we have a cap on Replenish Life? Most honorable leagues cap it at 20 or 25. DOL runes are allowed and some duelers may socket their items full of such runes. A part of me does not want a cap on Replenish Life because I think it could make for an interesting build for our league, but no cap on this mod may cause problems.
my blue weapon =D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/arisalmighty/Screenshot072.jpg
hey, it hits 5 frame ^^
Wat about pdr? I think the max one could get off this with magical itamz is about 150ish, and considering low dmg from magic items, that could present a problem (but make for an interesting duel :P
Other things to consider:
Prebuffing:
Is +skills prebuffing allowed? spirit/coh/etc.
Is external skill prebuffing allowed? Fade/Venom/Enchant/BO/Shout/Bc/etc.
Well, all of those things are given by non-magic items, so wouldnt they all be disqualified, therefore eliminating the problem?
Summerfun
20-12-2006, 23:44
Well, all of those things are given by non-magic items, so wouldnt they all be disqualified, therefore eliminating the problem?
So true.
About where to duel, i can desside betwen normal and NM.
Its gonna be hard to get good res in NM, and i think fire claw and rabies might
be to overpowered.
On the other hand, Oak is physical immune in NM.
Im lvl 16 right now, and still dont have any end game items.... this is gonna be harder than i thought!
uberHunter
21-12-2006, 00:08
Hmm ok I just bought a nice weapon, as Kiba and vvild knows... this may renew my interest in this game. Kiba lmk if you want the weapon (check ur pm), if not then I guess I use it for this League.
Can some one give me hints on what a good duel druid need? in blue only items. and skills allocation if possible.
no non magical items at all are allowed. your second hand items, inventory, and equipped items must all be magical before shapeshifting and dueling. ide trust you all to follow the rules ^^ but if someone doesnt trust ya they could just ask to see all the stuff. now if you want to prebuff, just go find a +2 druid skills helm, +3 summoning ammy and your good ^^. i already found the helm but no ammy yet ><
but yeah, no non magical can be used for anything, or i will howl like a crazy man wolf!
as for resist in dueling, if your dueling a rabies just slap on a basic jewelers armor with like 4 tal runes, i think thats a hella amount of poison resist. ive been stocking up too on items with fire resist incase i duel a FC bear ^^
and to uberhunter, that is a mighty fine sword you got there, if it gets two soccets ^^ if it gets one its still good i think. theres a couple guides on how to build a druid, skills and tactics, and what not. but as for magical items and what to use, thats what were all trying to figure out ^^. you gotta pick and choose what advantages you want when it comes to magical items. i saw just get a bunch of jewelers stuff and Gem em out =D
but then again, kiba does want that sword and im sure he can afford. GG rhyme
uberHunter
21-12-2006, 00:19
It got 2 sockets. So now 2x 40/15?
for those having trouble making character:
if you need a rush, try to get a hold of vic *mastavic
he will gladly rush you for free!!!
as for items, the act 5 hell vendors sell great stuff. finally i shopped a jewelers armor with life (37 life). hell baal you can find great ammys and rings. and one of us here can help you with your forge so you can get gems and runes and get your self the stuff ya need ^^
ive also saved ALOT of shopped weapons and armor so i will post a list here of what i can give away.
and to uber, 2 40/15 is best.
and today i shopped a cruel/quickness 4 framer. praying for 2 soccets ^^
if anyone else can help out the foriegners from the other realms that would be great =D
uberHunter
21-12-2006, 00:55
Give it to me I'll socket for you, for a fee ofcourse. What cruel/quickness is it?
too bad, i got 1 soccet on it ><
it was a Cruel Grimscythe of Quickness
damn i really wanted two soccets ><
anyone need a Cruel Great Maul of Quickness, clean, 219 dmg?
i also have a couple 3 soccet helms and a 173 dmg Cruel Ancient Sword if anyone wants it. i also have a bunch of gloves with 19-20 dex, all 60 strength req. if anyone needs.
also have a Cruel Grimscythe of Quickness, 1 soccet, if anyone needs =/
Ill take one of the gloves and the Grimscythe if you still have them :), just starting out on West, so my lvl 1 Rabies Druid could use a boost :grin:
thanks!, bogie
*bogie3
Ill take one of the gloves and the Grimscythe if you still have them :), just starting out on West, so my lvl 1 Rabies Druid could use a boost :grin:
thanks!, bogie
*bogie3
ill msg ya when i get on and give it to ya.
now i gotta make a fury wolf for this , i got a 97 life Whrymmhide 4sok.
no charms and rare jewels allowed correct?
damn you luckly son of a gun kiba ><
yeah no charms and rare jewels. for runes - el - fal +cham +zod are allowed.
im lvl 20 now, cant wait to duel that wyrmhide ^^
lol, need a Cruel Great Maul of Quickness ^^
Summerfun
21-12-2006, 12:31
If this had just been on europe.... then i would have had Tons of jewelers armors/shields and elite weaps of quicknes from old 1.09 shop bot.
anyway, what do u think would be the ultimate weapon for this league?
CFKoQ socket shael+ias/ed
CPBoQ socket ed/is+ed/ias
i just need to know what i should be shopping for :laugh:
MaStAViC
21-12-2006, 19:49
Hey, Everyone,
How's it going? I have been very busy this week, working 12 to 14 hours a day (not including take-home work), so I have not been able to really play the game or keep up-to-date with this thread. I finally have a Blue Dueling League druid, named MaStAViC-BLUE, who is currently level 8.
I will work more on my druid and help out with this league once I find some time away from work. Just wanted to keep people updated and not let people think that I have disappeared from helping out this league =P
Happy holidays,
-=MaStA ViC
jokermwx
21-12-2006, 21:04
I finally rushed myself in norm and will prob be 60+ this weekend, but still have not shopped any good weapons. I did pop some 20 str gloves from Andy in norm.
Are grey items allowed? Found a sweet lvl 30 helm w/ 2rabies/3fury.
sexy helm, but if it aint magical it aint useable ><
can you make a thread with all the official ruels in first post please =)
can you make a thread with all the official ruels in first post please =)
yeah, ill make an official blue dueling league after post after work, it will be GG
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