View Full Version : Good Duels to morotsjos
InkNDagger
02-12-2006, 19:26
Being as we are both banned here I didn't figure anything would get posted, but I figured, what the hell I can always register a new email and come chat with my old friends at dii.net.
Amongst 200+ ping on my side, 50 or less on his while he was hosting, I won the first two, lost the next two. He couldn't join my host so we dueled in some pubs on open bnet, me with about 150 ping him with 200+ and i won two and he won two. We also learned that one unblocked string of furies can take 6k+ life =) (that was with grief/probobly hitting 80% ds hits)
So, although the ping was high and it is hard to tell anything, it is obvious that a BvC won't 10-0 a fury all the time, and most certainly won't win vs 7 at a time.
Thx for letting us know ink, was waiting to hear results. Kind of confirms what I've noticed from dueling other bvc's. Its a pretty good and even matchup against good BvCs. I believe you are pure fury and not a fury/rabies hybrid correct? Mind letting us know what u used?
what setup did you wolf use?
And was there a massive ban when I'm not around?
InkNDagger
02-12-2006, 19:52
Thx for letting us know ink, was waiting to hear results. Kind of confirms what I've noticed from dueling other bvc's. Its a pretty good and even matchup against good BvCs. I believe you are pure fury and not a fury/rabies hybrid correct? Mind letting us know what u used?
I am not quite pure fury as I do use summons.
First few duels I used glitched robo berzerker axe - which is an ethereal indestrucatable 95ias (4 frame fury) axe - 333 max dmg iirc.
Then I switched to Botdz.
Last couple of duels were with Grief Phase (which I don't like because of low range)
Anyhoo, gear:
ed/fhr jalals
archon fort
shael storm
verds
gores
steelrends (didn't want to lifetap)
2x ravens
highlords
6bocta/spirirt switch
37 3/20/20 torch and anni
Skills:
Fury, Spirit of barbs, poison creeper, ravens, spirit wolves.
Logic behind SoB and spirit wolves: 6 summons means that his ww is hit checking at things around me, and not on me all the time. SoB makes it impossible for him to leech with the gear he is using (oak sage makes it possible to leech off both the oak sage itself as well as the summons).
Ravens are a visual distraction, and can make him block as he comes out of a ww. Not common but it's a 1 point investment.
Poison Creeper: The mats do lots of damage. It might say that it does 70 damage, but it can definately do 200+ pvp. Actually I belive morotsjos actually told me the when i summoned a creeper right under his feet while he was trying to unshift me with dooms that he had ~200 life left and the creeper killed him as it popped out of the ground.
Uncle_Mike
02-12-2006, 19:53
what setup did you wolf use?
And was there a massive ban when I'm not around?
yes, to say the least...
on topic - I still think that in a non-lag environment barb is better than werewolf. At the same time props to those playing the underdog class :thumbsup: Werewolves are fun and I sure hope to revive mine...
Mike
InkNDagger
02-12-2006, 19:55
yes, to say the least...
on topic - I still think that in a non-lag environment barb is better than werewolf. At the same time props to those playing the underdog class :thumbsup: Werewolves are fun and I sure hope to revive mine...
Mike
But look at this:
I had 250+ ping, he had 50- ping when he was hosting. Anyways, I am in no way saying that fury is even equal to a BvC. In the hands of a skilled player such as morotsjos, they are a very very hard duel, require a lot of patience, a lot of summoning to create hit checks, and a lot of trying to time shift furies at clip range. WW has the advantage, and will do it's job more than 50% of the time. That a fury wolf can be competitive is all I was trying to prove, which I did. WW is still > Fury.
Uncle_Mike
02-12-2006, 20:02
But look at this:
I had 250+ ping, he had 50- ping when he was hosting. Anyways, I am in no way saying that fury is even equal to a BvC. In the hands of a skilled player such as morotsjos, they are a very very hard duel, require a lot of patience, a lot of summoning to create hit checks, and a lot of trying to time shift furies at clip range. WW has the advantage, and will do it's job more than 50% of the time. That a fury wolf can be competitive is all I was trying to prove, which I did. WW is still > Fury.
I do know what you mean, plus I really have a lot of respect for those who wish to master the non-cookie cutter builds. Again, werewolves are great chars when it comes to the fun factor and it is always great to hear that they can do well in pvp as well. Both fury and rabies hurt a lot when applied, I've learned it the hard way :rolleyes:
Mike
RetroStar
02-12-2006, 21:10
Would you say you would win 4-0 if you kept using the robo zerk/botd?
Clay bizzle
03-12-2006, 07:08
This thread made me happy and restored my faith in this forum. I haven't checked it in over a week. Somewhat suprised with all the bands too. As a wolf player (among other builds) and ladder player I am happy to see the flaming down to a minimum. I still think Ink should be allowed to post though! I mean C'MON! Have you seen how cute he is???
Clay bizzle
03-12-2006, 07:08
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what is this? pretty funny how you said that you didn't care about these duels and considered them as fun/tests but still counted (poorly i might add since we did a total of 15+ duels) and actually thought i played seriously after the first few times. do you really think i would play that recklessly if i cared about winning?
i gladly admit that you scared me at first by using spirit of barbs, which i thought was equal to iron maiden and made me suicide for no reason.
as soon as i realized the damage returned was negliable i started playing as usual and you couldn't do more than stout, and that was for more than two duels. after that you admitted yourself that you _knew_ that barb>druid.
with 400 ping i stood no chance whatsoever, no surprise though. clicked exactly as i should but died anyway.
anyway drawing conclusions from our laggy duels is just stupid but i guarantee you that the way i flawlessly killed you in the beginning is pretty easy to accomplish even when druid doesn't lag. barb just have to play a bit more tactical and defensive.
barring occassional lagspikes or human screwups i am more sure than ever that barb who actually tries will kill any shaper every single time, especially if you consider max dr (i forgot to berber my coa), fort and widow. and the main problem in 7v1 would be mana.
Its a pretty good and even matchup against good BvCs.
rofl .
This thread made me happy and restored my faith in this forum. I haven't checked it in over a week. Somewhat suprised with all the bands too. As a wolf player (among other builds) and ladder player I am happy to see the flaming down to a minimum. I still think Ink should be allowed to post though! I mean C'MON! Have you seen how cute he is???
The bans were a good thing, cleaned this place up a bit from the incessant flaming. Of course, we'll have people consistently coming back with new accounts for a bit while the mods ban them again (as has been proven), but the day that they start handing out bans (or taking bans away) on the basis of our physical appearance is the day that I will lose all respect for these forums.
The bans were a good thing, cleaned this place up a bit from the incessant flaming. Of course, we'll have people consistently coming back with new accounts for a bit while the mods ban them again (as has been proven), but the day that they start handing out bans (or taking bans away) on the basis of our physical appearance is the day that I will lose all respect for these forums.
I am not sure where I read it from, but I remember a mod saying something about IP ban being the judgment for those who are troublesome. I think I can conclude that constantly banning the same people over and over again makes those people "troublesome".
And yes, I'm happy to finally see morotsjos banned. His attitude has changed too much to the worse in the last half a year. His posts were nothing more but useless +1's with "wolves blow" at the end.
As for unbanning, I think that if the offense is light enough and there have been no new accounts for the individual in an amount of time, he could be unbanned.
The bans were a good thing, cleaned this place up a bit from the incessant flaming. Of course, we'll have people consistently coming back with new accounts for a bit while the mods ban them again (as has been proven), but the day that they start handing out bans (or taking bans away) on the basis of our physical appearance is the day that I will lose all respect for these forums.
the best way to prevent being banned is to get your post count up to 24k
24k> 541 or 2,338
Uncle_Mike
03-12-2006, 15:28
And yes, I'm happy to finally see morotsjos banned. His attitude has changed too much to the worse in the last half a year. His posts were nothing more but useless +1's with "wolves blow" at the end.
Good for you :thumbsup:
I however think that despite his posts being rather rude they were on topic unlike your ones about your life, friends, maths and definitions of words...
As far as his posts being "+1s" well, so are yours quite often so please refrain from preaching here...
I for one am not happy that he was banned but that is an issue between him and the mod.
As far as the topic is concerned I still consider barbs to be superior to wolves. It is nice if they have a trick or two up their sleave but it can be countered in most cases. E.G. using wolves for minion stack is an invitation to use string of ears and leech of those wolves if needed etc.
Wolves hurt a lot but I cannot imagine a barb consistently losing to one in serious duels. In fun ones, sure I can imagine it easily.
Mike
Good for you :thumbsup:
I however think that despite his posts being rather rude they were on topic unlike your ones about your life, friends, maths and definitions of words...
Well, everyone has their own fun, right? Mine is like that. And no, my life is not so important. But life in general is.
As far as his posts being "+1s" well, so are yours quite often so please refrain from preaching here...
Well, you might be correct.
Mike
O.
And yes, I'm happy to finally see morotsjos banned. His attitude has changed too much to the worse in the last half a year. His posts were nothing more but useless +1's with "wolves blow" at the end.
and i care so much what a socially rejected ignorant retarded dumbass geek who wont accomplish anything whatsoever in his whole useless excuse for a life like you thinks. oh wait, no i dont...
nothing has changed btw, wolves are still inferior to basically everything, you are still a moronic wannabe with inferiority-complex and this forum is still made up of 99% theorycrafting nerds who suck at this game and lack common sense but still for some idiotic reason get badly upset when someone who doesn't speaks truth. oh yeah i still await that 7v1 in euro ladder/nl if some of these blabbering randoms get the guts to stop talking and actually duel.
Imbecile
03-12-2006, 22:35
and i care so much what a socially rejected ignorant retarded dumbass geek who wont accomplish anything whatsoever in his whole useless excuse for a life like you thinks. oh wait, no i dont...
nothing has changed btw, wolves are still inferior to basically everything, you are still a moronic wannabe with inferiority-complex and this forum is still made up of 99% theorycrafting nerds who suck at this game and lack common sense but still for some idiotic reason get badly upset when someone who doesn't speaks truth. oh yeah i still await that 7v1 in euro ladder/nl if some of these blabbering randoms get the guts to stop talking and actually duel.
Imposter LAWL ;\
Imposter LAWL ;\
silence murphy, you're wrong. get your *** on msn more often btw.
I however think that despite his posts being rather rude they were on topic unlike your ones about your life, friends, maths and definitions of words...
i was rude for a good reason, namely that this forum suddenly became flooded with retarded randoms who claimed that wolves can touch barbs and posted ridiculous theories despite not having even _seen_ a top barb/wolf in their life and not having any clue whatsoever about why barbs are superior. stubborn talk-only ignorants like that are even worse than olgas consistent laughable stupidity and namedropping lol.
Arbedark
03-12-2006, 22:48
what is this? pretty funny how you said that you didn't care about these duels and considered them as fun/tests but still counted (poorly i might add since we did a total of 15+ duels) and actually thought i played seriously after the first few times. do you really think i would play that recklessly if i cared about winning?
i gladly admit that you scared me at first by using spirit of barbs, which i thought was equal to iron maiden and made me suicide for no reason.
as soon as i realized the damage returned was negliable i started playing as usual and you couldn't do more than stout, and that was for more than two duels. after that you admitted yourself that you _knew_ that barb>druid.
with 400 ping i stood no chance whatsoever, no surprise though. clicked exactly as i should but died anyway.
anyway drawing conclusions from our laggy duels is just stupid but i guarantee you that the way i flawlessly killed you in the beginning is pretty easy to accomplish even when druid doesn't lag. barb just have to play a bit more tactical and defensive.
barring occassional lagspikes or human screwups i am more sure than ever that barb who actually tries will kill any shaper every single time, especially if you consider max dr (i forgot to berber my coa), fort and widow. and the main problem in 7v1 would be mana.
*waits for psuedo-philosophical reply from Ce Olba regarding life...*
*waits for psuedo-philosophical reply from Ce Olba regarding life...*
lol .
and i care so much what a socially rejected ignorant retarded dumbass geek who wont accomplish anything whatsoever in his whole useless excuse for a life like you thinks. oh wait, no i dont...
nothing has changed btw, wolves are still inferior to basically everything, you are still a moronic wannabe with inferiority-complex and this forum is still made up of 99% theorycrafting nerds who suck at this game and lack common sense but still for some idiotic reason get badly upset when someone who doesn't speaks truth. oh yeah i still await that 7v1 in euro ladder/nl if some of these blabbering randoms get the guts to stop talking and actually duel.
Haha, the words of a genius. I love it.
I have to admit that theory takes the upperhand in this forum. Who cares about chance to hit if you just can't hit in general?
*waits for psuedo-philosophical reply from Ce Olba regarding life...*
Wait no more!
and i care so much what a socially rejected ignorant retarded dumbass geek who wont accomplish anything whatsoever in his whole useless excuse for a life like you thinks.
Let's see. Socially rejected? How come so? The society is not rejecting me, I am the one rejecting the society. And that's because of not wanting useless trash people to be in my life, as they will just cause emotional stress at best.
Retarded? Hah, that has to be the best joke ever since someone said that I have AD/HD even though I do not. Yes, I do experience some of the symptoms, but they do not interfere with function, which is a criteria for a positive diagnosis.
Accomplish anything? So, what have you accomplished? At your age I doubt you've accomplished anything, except at most graduated from an university and possibly gotten a reasonable job. For my age, I've accomplished whatever you can expect. I'm almost set on a career path and further studies, my life in the future, my religion and whatnot. Basically all the things that someone of my age needs to have set and even more.
Excuse of life? Determine life universally and I will have to see what I can say. And by "universally" I mean so that it will be true for each and every currently existing individual on this planet. Oh wait, that's not possible. So please be quiet about "life".
[quote]nothing has changed btw, wolves are still inferior to basically everything, you are still a moronic wannabe with inferiority-complex and this forum is still made up of 99% theorycrafting nerds who suck at this game and lack common sense but still for some idiotic reason get badly upset when someone who doesn't speaks truth. /QUOTE]
Yaddayaddayadda. Got anything more to say? I do not theorycraft on things that cannot be theorycrafted, such as a duel, but yes, I will make imaginary characters and compare them to each other. Because that's what you do before you decide on a build unless you are planning to decide it middle-way and end up with some half-assed ****tily-planned character.
As for inferiority complex, yes I consider myself to lower than everyone else unless they say that I am not. This is because I cannot know.
Haha, the words of a genius. I love it.
I have to admit that theory takes the upperhand in this forum. Who cares about chance to hit if you just can't hit in general?
thats the whole point in barb vs fury. too bad the average iq in this forum is on par with a mentally challenged 8-years old.
Wait no more!
Let's see. Socially rejected? How come so? The society is not rejecting me, I am the one rejecting the society. And that's because of not wanting useless trash people to be in my life, as they will just cause emotional stress at best.
Retarded? Hah, that has to be the best joke ever since someone said that I have AD/HD even though I do not. Yes, I do experience some of the symptoms, but they do not interfere with function, which is a criteria for a positive diagnosis.
Accomplish anything? So, what have you accomplished? At your age I doubt you've accomplished anything, except at most graduated from an university and possibly gotten a reasonable job. For my age, I've accomplished whatever you can expect. I'm almost set on a career path and further studies, my life in the future, my religion and whatnot. Basically all the things that someone of my age needs to have set and even more.
Excuse of life? Determine life universally and I will have to see what I can say. And by "universally" I mean so that it will be true for each and every currently existing individual on this planet. Oh wait, that's not possible. So please be quiet about "life".
[quote]nothing has changed btw, wolves are still inferior to basically everything, you are still a moronic wannabe with inferiority-complex and this forum is still made up of 99% theorycrafting nerds who suck at this game and lack common sense but still for some idiotic reason get badly upset when someone who doesn't speaks truth. /QUOTE]
Yaddayaddayadda. Got anything more to say? I do not theorycraft on things that cannot be theorycrafted, such as a duel, but yes, I will make imaginary characters and compare them to each other. Because that's what you do before you decide on a build unless you are planning to decide it middle-way and end up with some half-assed ****tily-planned character.
As for inferiority complex, yes I consider myself to lower than everyone else unless they say that I am not. This is because I cannot know.
you are truly the worst nerd i've ever seen. you are the definition of incompetence. save yourself alot of tears and pain and blow your brains out asap.
Bulgarian
03-12-2006, 23:04
and i care so much what a socially rejected ignorant retarded dumbass geek who wont accomplish anything whatsoever in his whole useless excuse for a life like you thinks. oh wait, no i dont...
nothing has changed btw, wolves are still inferior to basically everything, you are still a moronic wannabe with inferiority-complex and this forum is still made up of 99% theorycrafting nerds who suck at this game and lack common sense but still for some idiotic reason get badly upset when someone who doesn't speaks truth. oh yeah i still await that 7v1 in euro ladder/nl if some of these blabbering randoms get the guts to stop talking and actually duel.
you talk a lot of trash, and you take this game too seriously
go outside.
you talk a lot of trash, and you take this game too seriously
go outside.
adore me.
Bulgarian
03-12-2006, 23:06
adore me.
say something clever
say something clever
tears please random. unlike you i dont even play this game, i just post here to provoke ignorant wannabe-smartasses like you who are inferior to me in all aspects of life including this game.
Bulgarian
03-12-2006, 23:12
tears please random. unlike you i dont even play this game, i just post here to provoke ignorant wannabe-smartasses like you who are inferior to me in all aspects of life including this game.
that is by far the most pathetic thing ive ever heard in my life.
save the mod some trouble and stop posting
that is by far the most pathetic thing ive ever heard in my life.
save the mod some trouble and stop posting
and you seriously think i care what a random wannabe like you thinks? laughable.
Bulgarian
03-12-2006, 23:18
and you seriously think i care what a random wannabe like you thinks? laughable.
why else would you make a second account?
-last post
why else would you make a second account?
-last post
remember that _you_ quoted me and whined like a girl, not the other way around crybaby.
Clay bizzle
04-12-2006, 00:16
Wow. Morots, what is the deal? I hope (know) you are not like this in real life. What is it about being behind a keyboard that makes you think you're better then anyone? Admit it, your life is way more centered on this forum/game then the rest of us, probably even Ce Olba, but you're in denial maybe? I believe Ink over you by far, so your "what is this" post = nothing. In fact, all of your posts = nothing. In reality, you're just as big a loser/noob as anyone else because let's face it, it's DIABLO. Try playing other games and getting pwned and talk all the mess you want so all the other hotshot keyboardists with inferiority complexes and say "cry more plzzzz., i pwnz you."
Morot is AWESOME. He's also right about the theory crafters on this forum. The vast majority [not all, duh] have no idea wtf they're talking about and should actually look for duels, rather than comment on what could happen.
And Clay blizzle or w/e, you care far too much to actually single him out. roffle
Barnical
04-12-2006, 00:43
thats the whole point in barb vs fury. too bad the average iq in this forum is on par with a mentally challenged 8-years old.
Someone's having a tantrum, I knew ink could pull a number on you.
PhatTrumpet
04-12-2006, 03:30
Dunno 'bout anyone else, but I love how he finally got a wolf to duel him and then it was nothing but excuses.
Clay bizzle
04-12-2006, 03:50
Morot is AWESOME. He's also right about the theory crafters on this forum. The vast majority [not all, duh] have no idea wtf they're talking about and should actually look for duels, rather than comment on what could happen.
And Clay blizzle or w/e, you care far too much to actually single him out. roffle
I single him out because he's the subject of this thread. Who is also stooping to his level? Even mainaman, ce olba, and mike give credit to wolf players to some degree, acknowledging the fact that they don't have to be overpowered to duel/have fun/even win. Like I've said many times. Fun > everything.
you are truly the worst nerd i've ever seen. you are the definition of incompetence. save yourself alot of tears and pain and blow your brains out asap.
Hah, this is funny. You are simply showing that you are avoiding my arguments for a certain reason. I can already single out the most likely reasons:
You cannot answer them in a way that would be profitable for yourself
You do not want to answer to them out of your laziness
Which both end up showing that you are inferior to me in one way or another. "Definition of incompetence"? Hah, that's such a bad joke. I am "incompetent" just because you do not agree with me? Then I guess you know the absolute truth about everything, which in turn makes you God? If that's true, then why would you be bothering with me, since God should logically be too busy to bother with any single individual.
Tears? Again this is an invalid argument which shows your lacking in argumenting.
Pain? If you think logically, my way of living is avoiding the most pain in one's life, which you should've figured out of if you had thought about it for a while, which you have not of course.
Blow your brains asap? That is the last nail to your coffin. That coffin is the coffin which shows your clear inferiority. All you can do is try to make me show emotions of hate or rage so that I would forget about the argument so that you could escape answering it. I guess you already escaped answering it via being banned though.
Oh, a sidenote for Xircon, since I know he is most likely watching me. I acknowledge that I shouldn't have posted this post, seeing that the user is banned. However, unless he was IP banned he is the most likely to return here at some point and see this message. Or if he wasn't IP banned, he could be already reading it. I know that you are thinking that I shouldn't even be thinking like that. If I wouldn't that would mean that I would admit that you've succeeded in permanently getting rid of morotsjos, which, if it's not an IP ban, is very unlikely if you look at his characteristics. And that's what I was based on when posting here, assuming that you did not IP ban him. This assumption is very weak though, since I do not know the criteria that an IP ban needs. That's why, if you find this kind of a post to be "improper", I would like you to tell me and possibly everyone else the criteria needed for an IP ban. I already took notice that it was the solution only with "real troublemakers", but how would you define these "real troublemakers"?
HappyAssassin
04-12-2006, 06:39
Morot is AWESOME. He's also right about the theory crafters on this forum. The vast majority [not all, duh] have no idea wtf they're talking about and should actually look for duels, rather than comment on what could happen.
There is a lot of theory crafting on this website, but that's not the issue here. This isn't an argument over theory, these were duels that happened under the circumstances that occur when people from drastically different realms play each other.
kavehtabriaz
04-12-2006, 07:20
I dont get why morots got permanent ban, temp was enough he was one best this forum had.
Eilo Rytyj
04-12-2006, 07:45
I dont get why morots got permanent ban, temp was enough he was one best this forum had.
He sounded like just another flaming troll kid to me. But I've only ever read his flaming-troll posts, so I dunno if I could judge further.
HappyAssassin
04-12-2006, 11:20
He was also a fantastic dueler who gave a lot of good advice.
i just post here to provoke ignorant wannabe-smartasses like you who are inferior to me in all aspects of life including this game.
omg do we really have to listen to this crap, I don't like saying this but he sounds like a complete moron. It sounds like he lost a few duels to a wolf, then won a few, then says he wasn't trying, then says he forgot to ber ber his coa, yeah rite what next .... and adore you, lol more like ignore you ...
rofl, i always like flaming battle D:
he only flames ppl who he doesnt like [that would be wolf_theory_crafters in this case] and he does that all the way, but hes still a experienced and well knowledgeable player and he always helped me with advices.
Thoridian
04-12-2006, 16:25
I dont get why morots got permanent ban, temp was enough he was one best this forum had.
vouch
10 chars
Morots is rite too much ppl are theorycrafts this is a prime example this topic, it reminds me of when ppl where debating smite vs Whirlwind and ppl straightly assumed smite>ww due to aspect like, ITD, ITB and interuptable then it had to be proven with some duels that it is not smite>ww.
stop talking technical some dueling needs to be done.
swiftrunner
04-12-2006, 16:34
I dont get why morots got permanent ban, temp was enough he was one best this forum had.
Read through the whole thread again (and a few other threads in pvp forum) and see all the garbage he posted and you'll understand why.
mainaman
04-12-2006, 16:38
Read through the whole thread again (and a few other threads in pvp forum) and see all the garbage he posted and you'll understand why.thats because you have actually never seen him posted in serious threads giving advice, i assume you also never talked to him with pm or w/e for advice. He is actually very knowledgeable and helpful.
I bet if you knew so much about your favorite char class you'd get really pissed off after some time ,seeing ppl claim things that are utter lies about it. no?
Dennis_KoreanGuy
04-12-2006, 16:39
morots struck me as one who really were learned in diablo pvp environment.
I agree with his views on d2 pvp, say barb>wolf for example, its just his posting attitude that turns a lot of ppl off.
as for good ole' olba bashing, his posts are usually pretty greasy I find, but they're funny. Morots posts are funny too. The 2 have such distinct online personalities. Its so funny. ^^
swiftrunner
04-12-2006, 16:52
Morots is rite too much ppl are theorycrafts this is a prime example this topic, it reminds me of when ppl where debating smite vs Whirlwind and ppl straightly assumed smite>ww due to aspect like, ITD, ITB and interuptable then it had to be proven with some duels that it is not smite>ww.
stop talking technical some dueling needs to be done.
I believe this is what the original poster wrote:
Amongst 200+ ping on my side, 50 or less on his while he was hosting, I won the first two, lost the next two. He couldn't join my host so we dueled in some pubs on open bnet, me with about 150 ping him with 200+ and i won two and he won two. We also learned that one unblocked string of furies can take 6k+ life =) (that was with grief/probobly hitting 80% ds hits)
So, although the ping was high and it is hard to tell anything, it is obvious that a BvC won't 10-0 a fury all the time, and most certainly won't win vs 7 at a time.
As you can see he merely showed the results of the duel that he and moronjos had. And then moron just stormed in and made all the stupid excuses. No one is theorycrafting except Olba. Or are you just too blinded by his status as the best BvC dueler on Europe?
Moronjos is the most pathetic creature on the face of this planet. He got beaten by Ink and he cried and cried like a little girl. And he thinks he's so original with all his garbage talk lol.
mainaman
04-12-2006, 16:55
I believe this is what the original poster wrote:
As you can see he merely showed the results of the duel that he and moronjos duelled. And then moron just stormed in and made all the stupid excuses. No one is theorycrafting except Olba. Or are you just too blinded by his status as the best BvC dueler on Europe?
Moronjos is the most pathetic creature on the face of this planet. He got beaten by Ink and he cried and cried like a little girl. And he thinks he's so original with all his garbage talk lol.you do realize thats a ban material don't you?
just because he is banned that don't mean you can act like that
lol blinded how the hell could he have been beaten if it was 2-2??
lol ignorance
P.S
I like how u flame Morots and he is not even hear to reply back :rolleyes:
swiftrunner
04-12-2006, 17:02
thats because you have actually never seen him posted in serious threads giving advice, i assume you also never talked to him with pm or w/e for advice. He is actually very knowledgeable and helpful.
I bet if you knew so much about your favorite char class you'd get really pissed off after some time ,seeing ppl claim things that are utter lies about it. no?
I have never talked to him personally but I have read his other posts in barb's and pvp forums in the past giving advice to people. But he's changing a lot lately. I don't know whether he's bored or drunk or something. I remember him saying he missed blobs and how he thought blobs was the best thing to ever happen to this forum. May be he wants to be like his idol lol. Sorry moron dude, you can't pull it off.
swiftrunner
04-12-2006, 17:06
lol blinded how the hell could he have been beaten if it was 2-2??
lol ignorance
P.S
I like how u flame Morots and he is not even hear to reply back :rolleyes:
Hellooooo, did you not read his post where he claimed he could 10-0 7 wolves at once?
EDIT: Oh, he will reply back.
I believe this is what the original poster wrote:
As you can see he merely showed the results of the duel that he and moronjos duelled. And then moron just stormed in and made all the stupid excuses. No one is theorycrafting except Olba. Or are you just too blinded by his status as the best BvC dueler on Europe?
Moronjos is the most pathetic creature on the face of this planet. He got beaten by Ink and he cried and cried like a little girl. And he thinks he's so original with all his garbage talk lol.
he shouldnt even post the results to get his e-pride up since was test/fun duels
Hellooooo, did you not read his post where he claimed he could 10-0 7 wolves at once?
EDIT: Oh, he will reply back.
That doesn't mean that you can insult him. I'd be careful - take note of the "Xircon on the warpath" sticky at the top of this forum. Just because you disagree with Morots doesn't mean you can call him names.
Thoridian
04-12-2006, 18:36
Moronjos is the most pathetic creature on the face of this planet. He got beaten by Ink and he cried and cried like a little girl. And he thinks he's so original with all his garbage talk lol. I feel sorry for u T.T
Quote Morots:
"and i care so much what a socially rejected ignorant retarded dumbass geek who wont accomplish anything whatsoever in his whole useless excuse for a life like you thinks. oh wait, no i dont..."
So why is it OK for Morots to insult people then when someone insults him it's wrong? (he's banned again so maybe that's the consequence..)
As you can see he merely showed the results of the duel that he and moronjos had. And then moron just stormed in and made all the stupid excuses. No one is theorycrafting except Olba. Or are you just too blinded by his status as the best BvC dueler on Europe?
HAH!
You made me giggle. Seriously.
Let's see, me theorycrafting? There was someone else trying to theorycraft stuff which I was contradicting with proper arguments. Is that what you call "theorycrafting"? I would say "theorycrafting" is something like "smite=itb+itd+uniterruptable, ww=uninterruptable, smite>ww", which of course is false.
And my status? Best BvC on Europe? Far from that actually. Morotsjos is/was the current best and I come far behind.
As for morotsjos, he has the respect of many and he thinks he thus has the "authority" to say whatever he wants. His mind has changed too fast oo many times. At a time he was suggesting fortitude, then pure vitality, and then he was bashing wolves ..
So, although the ping was high and it is hard to tell anything, it is obvious that a BvC won't 10-0 a fury all the time, and most certainly won't win vs 7 at a time.
I'm not doubting Morot on his skills or knowledge as a barb but his blanket statements that no wolf can touch a barb was what most wolves had issues with and I'm glad Ink stuck around to be able to prove Morot wrong.
Most wolves know they picked an underpowered class so you won't see any of u say stuff like we can own 7 barbs at once and no wolf is disputing that BvC is a solid build. Yet although not all of us are as good as Ink Stout or Kiba, we have dueled and won our fair share vs other similiarly equipped/skilled bvcs.
Dunno 'bout anyone else, but I love how he finally got a wolf to duel him and then it was nothing but excuses.
Sadly this is exactly what it sounds like, especially when an expert bvc who is trying to prove "wolf's can't touch barbs" can't 10-0 a good wolf because he somehow "forgot" to berber his coa and wasn't really trying the whole time. right.... :rolleyes:
Far from that actually. Morotsjos is/was the current best and I come far behind.
I don't think he meant you when he said that
HappyAssassin
04-12-2006, 21:15
Oy Ink, if you still have a char on west ladder I'd love some duels, message *jacky. or *ollie.2
I have never talked to him personally but I have read his other posts in barb's and pvp forums in the past giving advice to people. But he's changing a lot lately. I don't know whether he's bored or drunk or something. I remember him saying he missed blobs and how he thought blobs was the best thing to ever happen to this forum. May be he wants to be like his idol lol. Sorry moron dude, you can't pull it off.
what slow-minded nerds like you think doesn't bother me the least. fact remains that ink lied about the amount of duels we did as well as the "result" (even though he actually counted after wanting "fun/test duels" lol). fact is also that i did not use fort/widow/max dr and played suicidal since i was stupid enough to think that ink, unlike stout, didn't post garbage lies on forums. fact is also that when i played properly i destroyed him flawlessly despite my inferior gear, after which ink said "i know barb>fury". believe whatever you want. i, ink and everyone who can think on his own knows what really happened. even if he did count every single time i died during our "fun" duels i still won by far. funny how i haven't seen him on msn either after posting these blatant lies here...
and yes, blobs was the best thing to happen to this forum. if you had been around and even understood half of his in-depth calcs/tests/mechanics you'd know, even if you are stiff and bitter enough to not appriciate his humour and sarcasm. sadly you're just another boring good-for-nothing wannabe without any self-distance whatsoever. good luck in life, i bet it's fun.
Sadly this is exactly what it sounds like, especially when an expert bvc who is trying to prove "wolf's can't touch barbs" can't 10-0 a good wolf because he somehow "forgot" to berber his coa and wasn't really trying the whole time. right.... :rolleyes:
even though stout lies about beating certain hammerdins he never lied about how i completely crushed him without being threatened whatsoever. so either ink is about 300% better than stout or other factors like LAG, gear-choices and messing around and having fun were involved. if you fail to see which you're either blind or plain dumb.
thats because you have actually never seen him posted in serious threads giving advice, i assume you also never talked to him with pm or w/e for advice. He is actually very knowledgeable and helpful.
I bet if you knew so much about your favorite char class you'd get really pissed off after some time ,seeing ppl claim things that are utter lies about it. no?
actually barbs aren't my favorite class, i just suck with everything else.
point is that random idiots here start claiming that wolves can get kills on top barbs without any practical basis whatsoever, then try to support their stupidity with moronic faulty theories. anyone who isn't blind should see the problem with this forum. nothing new either, started way back when strength_honor and others got banned in the pally forum for the exact same reason that blobs/chris/mike/me and others got banned here; cretins who are nothing and know nothing either start posting trash or feel offended by flames directed to others because they suck at life and have no self-esteem.
omg do we really have to listen to this crap, I don't like saying this but he sounds like a complete moron. It sounds like he lost a few duels to a wolf, then won a few, then says he wasn't trying, then says he forgot to ber ber his coa, yeah rite what next .... and adore you, lol more like ignore you ...
i love how i make you cry you little upset nerd.
Hellooooo, did you not read his post where he claimed he could 10-0 7 wolves at once?
EDIT: Oh, he will reply back.
i can and will 20-0 any wolves in euro ladder or nl 7v1. yet not a single one has stepped up. strange since there was alot of euro wolves blabbering here until i got a ladder barb. stout obviously wont duel me again since he, unlike you ignorants, _knows_ what will happen. and unfortunately there are no other wolf who would stand a better chance in our realm, not even 7v1.
challenge stands. i check d2jsp once or twice a week, just pm GIFF and i'll deliver. unlike you talk-only crybabies.
oh yeah since this forum seem populated by blind kids whose only hobby is crying 24/7; i never said that wolves cant kill _any_ barb or anything remotely similar. all i ever said is that in a lag-free environment (prerequisite for a barb to do anything which everyone who ever used one knows) a competent barb who dont _want_ to lose _will not_ lose one single duel to _any_ shaper. end of discussion. everyone who thinks otherwise is either retarded, blind or talking out of his ***.
And my status? Best BvC on Europe? Far from that actually. Morotsjos is/was the current best and I come far behind.
As for morotsjos, he has the respect of many and he thinks he thus has the "authority" to say whatever he wants. His mind has changed too fast oo many times. At a time he was suggesting fortitude, then pure vitality, and then he was bashing wolves ..
no we all know you blow. unlike you i know a few euro barbs who are better than i ever was, and there might be some unknown players who are even better than that.
i've never suggested fort, i've only said that i use it sometimes since i built my barb around it. frankly enigma is better in nearly all serious 1v1 duels, fort is funny though which is a plus. i have never bashed wolves since i know exactly what they can and cant do. i'm just bashing the retards who dont. barb vs shaper is about the only duel where fort is good btw since those joke chars cant even tele ahhaha.
So why is it OK for Morots to insult people then when someone insults him it's wrong? (he's banned again so maybe that's the consequence..)
you answered your own question; because they are wrong (and i'm not).
now give me some 7v1 wolf garbage. and next time i duel over tcp/ip i will have spectators in the game to assure noone is lying afterwards...
morotsoj how can you bash everyone about being nerds and cry babies when you're getting so upset over all this wolf stuff. btw, why bash kiba fans but nobody mentions things about being a morot fan and/or completely hating wolves.
i expect a huge flame from this post:grin:
every one should do them selves favor and stop postin in this thread too let Xircon nuke it or let moro talk too himself.
Bulgarian
05-12-2006, 02:14
actually barbs aren't my favorite class, i just suck with everything else.
point is that random idiots here start claiming that wolves can get kills on top barbs without any practical basis whatsoever, then try to support their stupidity with moronic faulty theories. anyone who isn't blind should see the problem with this forum. nothing new either, started way back when strength_honor and others got banned in the pally forum for the exact same reason that blobs/chris/mike/me and others got banned here; cretins who are nothing and know nothing either start posting trash or feel offended by flames directed to others because they suck at life and have no self-esteem.
you are the only problem in this forum. the mods could care less what losers like us argue about, its the fact that we argue that forces them to ban us. there is a reason why they banned you. your a little confused
if you dont like wolves, great. keep it to yourself. nobody wants to hear you have a spaz because somebody lied about a score. they made a screenshot button on your keyboard for a reason
theredpredator
05-12-2006, 02:27
Hi,
Im Tom. I have been playing this game for a long long time. I like it so much that i never come outside. I mean i have all my friends right here hahaha :P If anyone wants to be on my friendlist and help me in my quest for my curses necro plizzz help me.
My account is *Imafurrykitten
Come friends!
kavehtabriaz
05-12-2006, 02:45
Hi,
Im Tom. I have been playing this game for a long long time. I like it so much that i never come outside. I mean i have all my friends right here hahaha :P If anyone wants to be on my friendlist and help me in my quest for my curses necro plizzz help me.
My account is *Imafurrykitten
Come friends!
is this a throll? you posted in wrong forum,try player match up.but you have 1.8 k post count under ur belly that confused me lol.
I think that was a joke :wink3:
Moro, why wont you just stay banned.......
My FC claw bear completely destroyed Morotjos. NN proof when I'm the bomb.
This argument is going anywhere though. Why don't they rematch to settle it once and for all?
Darksteel
05-12-2006, 05:22
Your gonna laugh but I'd say an infinity weilding nova sorc.
There's a good guide in the sorc forums if you wanna look it up.
Darksteel
05-12-2006, 07:02
Eh, ignore that last post ment for that to show in another thread, won't let me edit it =(.
you are the only problem in this forum. the mods could care less what losers like us argue about, its the fact that we argue that forces them to ban us. there is a reason why they banned you. your a little confused
if you dont like wolves, great. keep it to yourself. nobody wants to hear you have a spaz because somebody lied about a score. they made a screenshot button on your keyboard for a reason
i love how you i make you keep crying despite saying you wont post more. i am awesome. keep up the tears you little boring whelp.
My FC claw bear completely destroyed Morotjos. NN proof when I'm the bomb.
This argument is going anywhere though. Why don't they rematch to settle it once and for all?
it cant be "settled" due to atlantic=lag. ink will obviously refuse to duel me when i'm hosting since he knows the outcome. i said already from the start that doing serious duels with 400+ ping is pointless on barb. the only reason i bothered playing with him was because he didn't seem like the kind who post lies at forums after saying that he wants to test some stuff and have some friendly duels. i was wrong.
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4622/inkuy6.jpg
we dueled for over an hour but only did 8 duels lol. or some people here are completely blind and couldn't think on their own if their life depended on it.
i have nothing to prove anyway. i crushed stout and can 20-0 him any time he wants and he knows it. same applies for any other druids in euro nl/ladder 7v1 and they all know it. in fact everyone who is good at barb knows it. that some ignorant stubborn wannabes posting here are in denial is pretty irrelevant.
take care wuben, cya at d2jsp hahaha.
I think that was a joke :wink3:
Moro, why wont you just stay banned.......
just to annoy pesky little upset kids like you.
morotsoj how can you bash everyone about being nerds and cry babies when you're getting so upset over all this wolf stuff. btw, why bash kiba fans but nobody mentions things about being a morot fan and/or completely hating wolves.
i expect a huge flame from this post:grin:
i'm not upset, i always post like this when arguing with stubborn ignorant retards who haven't even seen a top wolf/barb in their life and have no clue whatsoever what they're blabbering about but still think their half-assed theories and stupid calcs mean something despite not even grasping d2 basics. oh yeah i flame the other bitter losers and forum cops without self-distance just for fun. my apologizes haha.
i can count the hours i've played the last month on the fingers on one hand (including the 1+ hour "dueling" vs ink). the fact that no wolves even dare to try getting a kill vs me 7v1 proves i am right. challenge is open for a few more weeks, just pm GIFF @ d2jsp.
mainaman
05-12-2006, 13:28
ok so as far as i understand the issue here is
that morotsjos doesn't dispise the char -warewolf , he cant tolerate ppl that claim warewolves can stand a chance in a serios duel against well played bvc.
There is only one solution to that and it is duel
I bet there are warewolves on Europe good enough to stand up to the challenge . S/s need to be taken so there is no controvesy, and the discussion will be settled once and for all.
Till then accounting for the fact that Morotsjos is one of the top BvCs on Euro realm , his reputation entitles him to be the one that has the right in that discussion.
bobofuzzlymunky
05-12-2006, 15:15
tears please random. unlike you i dont even play this game, i just post here to provoke ignorant wannabe-smartasses like you who are inferior to me in all aspects of life including this game.
i didnt care to read past page 4, anything besides the trading forums on this site now are barbs vs werewolves.... its depressing... but i had to pick this out. (and i really dont want to get banned again, just pointing out something)
you say you dont play the game, but you incessantly whine and make new accounts on this forum. you say you dont play the game yet you admit that you duel. you say you dont play yet say you are superior to people who are "inferior to you in all aspects of life including this game" i thought you didnt play? also, im sorry but last i knew *MOST* 16 year olds havent accomplished much, im sorry a 30-year old has nothing better to do than pick on them -.-
and to inkndagger- in his first post he said 200 ping, in his fourth he says 250+ i like the story change. we should drop this subject now, last time one of these was up, everyone who posted in it got banned -.-
Bulgarian
05-12-2006, 15:57
i love how you i make you keep crying despite saying you wont post more. i am awesome. keep up the tears you little boring whelp.
I havent ever dueled you and lost. What am I crying about?
Oh yeah, I said last post because I thought that after you got banned you would stop coming, but I was wrong.
ok so as far as i understand the issue here is
that morotsjos doesn't dispise the char -warewolf , he cant tolerate ppl that claim warewolves can stand a chance in a serios duel against well played bvc.
There is only one solution to that and it is duel
I bet there are warewolves on Europe good enough to stand up to the challenge . S/s need to be taken so there is no controvesy, and the discussion will be settled once and for all.
Till then accounting for the fact that Morotsjos is one of the top BvCs on Euro realm , his reputation entitles him to be the one that has the right in that discussion.
you understand correctly unlike 99% of the mindless cretins posting their worthless blabbering opinions in this forum. i've already crushed stoutwolf, neither rog or bou could do anything whatsoever with their lvl 99 druid. and i cant think of any other wolf that would perform better or even as good as theirs. they aren't exactly bad players and their wolf is one of the very few i've seen that can kill more than ik barbs in pubs. i await that 7v1 however even though i know what the outcome will be.
i didnt care to read past page 4, anything besides the trading forums on this site now are barbs vs werewolves.... its depressing... but i had to pick this out. (and i really dont want to get banned again, just pointing out something)
you say you dont play the game, but you incessantly whine and make new accounts on this forum. you say you dont play the game yet you admit that you duel. you say you dont play yet say you are superior to people who are "inferior to you in all aspects of life including this game" i thought you didnt play? also, im sorry but last i knew *MOST* 16 year olds havent accomplished much, im sorry a 30-year old has nothing better to do than pick on them -.-
and to inkndagger- in his first post he said 200 ping, in his fourth he says 250+ i like the story change. we should drop this subject now, last time one of these was up, everyone who posted in it got banned -.-
you're obviously annoyed since you know you'll never play half as good as me even though i barely touch d2 nowadays. exposed haha.
I havent ever dueled you and lost. What am I crying about?
Oh yeah, I said last post because I thought that after you got banned you would stop coming, but I was wrong.
where have i talked about duels kid? have link? you cant stop crying, i win. amusing.
i'm not upset, i always post like this when arguing with stubborn ignorant retards
rofl, thats exactly it your crying like a baby and do in nearly every post you make. I can picture you now, drooling over your keyboard with a big red face (possibly like a wolf might drool over food), all you do is call people names when they make valid points. The catch phrase people like you use these days seems to be telling people constantly they have low self esteem, well if that is the case (and im sure its not in most cases) its better than having none (= possibly you) lol
Uncle_Mike
05-12-2006, 16:17
ok so as far as i understand the issue here is
that morotsjos doesn't dispise the char -warewolf , he cant tolerate ppl that claim warewolves can stand a chance in a serios duel against well played bvc.
There is only one solution to that and it is duel
I bet there are warewolves on Europe good enough to stand up to the challenge . S/s need to be taken so there is no controvesy, and the discussion will be settled once and for all.
Till then accounting for the fact that Morotsjos is one of the top BvCs on Euro realm , his reputation entitles him to be the one that has the right in that discussion.
Saying that wolves can own bvcs is much more of an overstatement than saying that a bvc can 20:0 any wolf IMO. And even if the wolf does score a kill/kills it still changes nothing. Furthermore, even if INK did humiliate Morotsjos (which I ofc doubt) that would prove nothing more than that he is an outstanding, way above average, wolf player and thus it says little for the class as w whole, perhaps for the class' potential which hardly anyone can harness to the fullest.
Also assuming that people who posted in this thread in fact duel than how come you do not see the difference between "serious duels" and fun ones. The difference is that in fun duels you do not pay much attention to the score nor do you keep it, you play more offensively and even do stupid things. This is what fun duels are for after all.
It has also been proven beyond discussion that cross-atlantic lag spikes make such intercontinental encounters next to impossible. Let alone the fact that some chars are more lag-sensitive than others. That seriously hampers the possibility of cross-realm duels or at least their credibility.
And the last thing, me and quite a few people from this forum have dueled Morotsjos with various classes of chars. As you can see no scores have ever been posted and it's not because we got "owned so hard" or have "ez'd" him, it's because these were fun encounters and no one bothered to keep the score or make screenshots.
As far as his credibility is concerned it might be a good idea for some people to browse more than his last 50 posts so that they get the big picture. Notice how the old-timers and known pvp-ers somehow agree with him and refrain from calling him a moron etc. Not that he has anything to prove...
Mike
rofl, thats exactly it your crying like a baby and do in nearly every post you make. I can picture you now, drooling over your keyboard with a big red face (possibly like a wolf might drool over food), all you do is call people names when they make valid points. The catch phrase people like you use these days seems to be telling people constantly they have low self esteem, well if that is the case (and im sure its not in most cases) its better than having none (= possibly you) lol
pathetic comeback from the worst wannabe-smartass i've ever seen. name one "valid" point the theorycrafters in this forum have made that i haven't disintegrated beyond belief. and it's pretty obvious for everyone who isn't blind or retarded that the average poster here is a bitter boring good-for-nothing nerd with sub-par self-esteem, no self-distance whatsoever who desperately tries to make up for these poor qualities by acting as forum cops, getting involved and feeling offended in arguments they aren't even a part of and are too damn stupid to grasp and by generally displaying a completely rabid im-better-than-you-because-i-am-too-dumb-and-too-ignorant-to-be-entitled-to-an-opinion-so-i-just-agree-with-the-other-losers-who-just-like-me-only-picks-on-a-few-people-who-have-the-guts-to-say-what-they-think-for-the-simple-reason-that-they-seem-rude-and-even-i-can-cry-about-that-despite-being-retarded attitude.
mainaman
05-12-2006, 16:53
Saying that wolves can own bvcs is much more of an overstatement than saying that a bvc can 20:0 any wolf IMO. And even if the wolf does score a kill/kills it still changes nothing. Furthermore, even if INK did humiliate Morotsjos (which I ofc doubt) that would prove nothing more than that he is an outstanding, way above average, wolf player and thus it says little for the class as w whole, perhaps for the class' potential which hardly anyone can harness to the fullest.
Also assuming that people who posted in this thread in fact duel than how come you do not see the difference between "serious duels" and fun ones. The difference is that in fun duels you do not pay much attention to the score nor do you keep it, you play more offensively and even do stupid things. This is what fun duels are for after all.
It has also been proven beyond discussion that cross-atlantic lag spikes make such intercontinental encounters next to impossible. Let alone the fact that some chars are more lag-sensitive than others. That seriously hampers the possibility of cross-realm duels or at least their credibility.
And the last thing, me and quite a few people from this forum have dueled Morotsjos with various classes of chars. As you can see no scores have ever been posted and it's not because we got "owned so hard" or have "ez'd" him, it's because these were fun encounters and no one bothered to keep the score or make screenshots.
As far as his credibility is concerned it might be a good idea for some people to browse more than his last 50 posts so that they get the big picture. Notice how the old-timers and known pvp-ers somehow agree with him and refrain from calling him a moron etc. Not that he has anything to prove...
Mikeyou are 100% correct
but my impression is that things went out of control and a duel is the only solution as to who is right and wrong. so far i see no warewolf players runnig to their computers to take the chellenge.
I see ppl talking empty talk about how they have been offended by ones attitude...
I see ppl talking empty talk about how they have been offended by ones attitude...
that weren't even directed to them in the first place lol. this forum has been taken over by sensitive talk-only theorycrafting pussies. shame.
swiftrunner
05-12-2006, 17:04
Just because you disagree with Morots doesn't mean you can call him names.
I don't disagree with him. I strongly believe that BvC > Wolves. Anyone with half a brain knows that. It's his cocky attitude that makes me sick. I just think he deserves a little spanking for calling the people on these forums worthless nerds/retards. Unless he can provide us with some written facts or w/e that 99% of the posters are 'theorycrafting retards', he should just shut the hell up.
I feel sorry for u T.T
Say something more original please.
And my status? Best BvC on Europe? Far from that actually. Morotsjos is/was the current best and I come far behind.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I wasn't talking about you.
what slow-minded nerds like you think doesn't bother me the least.
Of course, it does. What else did you keep making new accounts for?
fact remains that ink lied about the amount of duels we did as well as the "result" (even though he actually counted after wanting "fun/test duels" lol). fact is also that i did not use fort/widow/max dr and played suicidal since i was stupid enough to think that ink, unlike stout, didn't post garbage lies on forums. fact is also that when i played properly i destroyed him flawlessly despite my inferior gear, after which ink said "i know barb>fury".
(Taps moron on the shoulder) Oh, don't cry. We all know how mean Ink can be.
and yes, blobs was the best thing to happen to this forum. if you had been around and even understood half of his in-depth calcs/tests/mechanics you'd know, even if you are stiff and bitter enough to not appriciate his humour and sarcasm. sadly you're just another boring good-for-nothing wannabe without any self-distance whatsoever. good luck in life, i bet it's fun.
Lol, I've been around long enough to know who blobs was. I've been visiting the forums since 2002, but I never posted back then because I didn't have enough English to write anything decipherable (I started learning English intensively in 2004). I know how blobs was always disagreeing with people and how he always annoyed people with his incessant crude remarks. However, unlike you, he appeared smart with his creative, heavily sarcastic remarks. It's really funny to see how you try so hard to impersonate him but fail miserably lol. Your Europeans friends probably know this is not you. I don't know if it's your English or you simply don't have enough intelligence to be on par with him. You know non native speakers of English like us shouldn't show off. Just writing some simple, comprehensible sentences is enough so that people won't think we're stupid. You should stop embarrasing yourself and be who you really are.
good luck in life, i bet it's fun.
Yes, my life is all about fun. Thanks.
i love how you i make you keep crying despite saying you wont post more. i am awesome. keep up the tears you little boring whelp.
No no. He makes you cry.
every one should do them selves favor and stop postin in this thread too let Xircon nuke it or let moro talk too himself.
Alrighty.
swiftrunner
05-12-2006, 17:15
pathetic comeback from the worst wannabe-smartass i've ever seen. name one "valid" point the theorycrafters in this forum have made that i haven't disintegrated beyond belief. and it's pretty obvious for everyone who isn't blind or retarded that the average poster here is a bitter boring good-for-nothing nerd with sub-par self-esteem, no self-distance whatsoever who desperately tries to make up for these poor qualities by acting as forum cops, getting involved and feeling offended in arguments they aren't even a part of and are too damn stupid to grasp and by generally displaying a completely rabid im-better-than-you-because-i-am-too-dumb-and-too-ignorant-to-be-entitled-to-an-opinion-so-i-just-agree-with-the-other-losers-who-just-like-me-only-picks-on-a-few-people-who-have-the-guts-to-say-what-they-think-for-the-simple-reason-that-they-seem-rude-and-even-i-can-cry-about-that-despite-being-retarded attitude.
You know, erage isn't good for your eheart. Have you considered taking up eyoga?
Till then accounting for the fact that Morotsjos is one of the top BvCs on Euro realm , his reputation entitles him to be the one that has the right in that discussion.
What?!@??!!!
getting involved and feeling offended in arguments they aren't even a part of
Well this is a forum, if you feel this way why didnt you take your rants to PM. Correct me if im wrong, but I don't ever remember reading a wolf player saying he/she can beat all bvc's in a duel. I have read that they have beaten bvc's when duelling. It seems that the idea of a wolf beating any bvc has sent some hyper sensitive bvc players into something like spasms at the thought.
stoutewolf
05-12-2006, 17:21
even though stout lies about beating certain hammerdins he never lied about how i completely crushed him without being threatened whatsoever. so either ink is about 300% better than stout or other factors like LAG, gear-choices and messing around and having fun were involved. if you fail to see which you're either blind or plain dumb.
or he might lie about his loss against me? ever thought of it that way? :wink3:
ah well, next time i will make a screen :shocked:
stoutewolf
05-12-2006, 17:27
ok so as far as i understand the issue here is
that morotsjos doesn't dispise the char -warewolf , he cant tolerate ppl that claim warewolves can stand a chance in a serios duel against well played bvc.
There is only one solution to that and it is duel
I bet there are warewolves on Europe good enough to stand up to the challenge . S/s need to be taken so there is no controvesy, and the discussion will be settled once and for all.
Till then accounting for the fact that Morotsjos is one of the top BvCs on Euro realm , his reputation entitles him to be the one that has the right in that discussion.
i will duell him if needed although i have to admit that a barb can win easy enough. For example just shoot from a distance with widowmaker.
@mrotsojrso:add me at msn (boudewijnbroers@hotmail.com) and will show all how i will be killed time by time with screenies.
@rest: morotsjors aint just a barb, pub barbs are nothing compared to him and i prefer standing versus 4 pub barbs as to morotsjors. point is that a wolf player will lose versus a barb player when they both have the same skill level. And he is right there although there aren't many skilled players in their class. Don't get me wrong wolfs can be good, but not in a game without rules. In leagues they are good indeed 1 v 1 (ep for example)
Thoridian
05-12-2006, 17:39
There is only one solution to that and it is duel
I bet there are warewolves on Europe good enough to stand up to the challenge . S/s need to be taken so there is no controvesy, and the discussion will be settled once and for all.
There is #1 wolf on europe (id even say on all realms both skill and gear wise) that already fought Morotsjos and guess what? He admitted himself that wolf has no chance vs bvc
mainaman
05-12-2006, 18:45
There is #1 wolf on europe (id even say on all realms both skill and gear wise) that already fought Morotsjos and guess what? He admitted himself that wolf has no chance vs bvcif you read carefully my posts , i never doubted that bvc is superior to warewolf. Unfortunately many ppl here started to post w/e and then got offended by morots attitude. therefore duel is needed to show whos wrong and whos right. the outcome will have to be good enough of a persuatoin for the oposing parties .
What is this warewolf mainaman is talking about?
What is this warewolf mainaman is talking about?
]squelched[ if only....
mainaman
05-12-2006, 19:33
What is this warewolf mainaman is talking about?If you try and use your imagination alil bit you'll figure i'm talking about shapeshifters , which essentially in one of their forms are warewolves. Don't tell me you never read other than romanitc novels pls.
stoutewolf
05-12-2006, 19:36
There is #1 wolf on europe (id even say on all realms both skill and gear wise) that already fought Morotsjos and guess what? He admitted himself that wolf has no chance vs bvc
wrong, there is also someone fgrom the imp clan with a wolf. He might be unknown to you, but he is also quite good from what i have heard:wink:
stoutewolf
05-12-2006, 19:39
There is #1 wolf on europe (id even say on all realms both skill and gear wise) that already fought Morotsjos and guess what? He admitted himself that wolf has no chance vs bvc
i admitted that the wolf has no chance when the players have the same skilllevel. You have a bvc right thor? wanna give it a go?
i challenge all bvc's on this forum that play europe and still think that no werewolf will ever beat them. I'll try you all, and i will probably win quite a lot (bvc is a class that is played by skilless people mostly) :wink:
last but not least:
@ EVERY EUROPE NL PLAYER: pm me for duells please, i need to get my wolf playing skill back fast for the duells versus morotsjors . EVERY CLASS IS WELCOME
superjayson
05-12-2006, 20:02
This thread is pathetic.
The only reason why people wont stop *****ing is not because theres some confusion or ignorance as to wether a wolf is better than a Barb. Anyone with any sense would know that the barb will always have the advantage.
The reason why its still going on is because morotsjos is one of the most rudest/disrespectful person on this forum. That's why he is banned.
If you would all shut up he wouldn't be making a new account to come back all the time. He can't argue with him self.
This thread is pathetic.
The only reason why people wont stop *****ing is not because theres some confusion or ignorance as to wether a wolf is better than a Barb. Anyone with any sense would know that the barb will always have the advantage.
The reason why its still going on is because morotsjos is one of the most rudest/disrespectful person on this forum. That's why he is banned.
If you would all shut up he wouldn't be making a new account to come back all the time. He can't argue with him self.
He doesn't necessarily need to be constantly acknowleged to point out others' blatant stupidity. Personally I enjoy watching how much his remarks enrage various forum trolls.
Uncle_Mike
05-12-2006, 20:12
The reason why its still going on is because morotsjos is one of the most rudest/disrespectful person on this forum
He is also correct as most of the people know, yet there still is arguing...
He might have been offensive, but he was damn right all the time...
Seems that pvp pros get banned over ridiculous arguments every now and then, last banning spree happened when there was a "gosu" nec summoner on the forum claiming he owned barbs all the time among other classes.
And yes @ Stoute, barb is among the harder classes to master and plenty of people without skill can be found playing a bvc.
Mike
Thoridian
05-12-2006, 20:20
@Bou
Yeah I do and we've already dueled (*shodek) ;) I can admit that ive lost, but dont compare me + my char that is worth like 0.00000001 of ur account to ur wolf + the skill difference ;)
Ill gladly practise with u as soon as i fix my d2. First Game CD didnt work and now when it works, something happend with Installation CD and it doesnt work -.-
If you try and use your imagination alil bit you'll figure i'm talking about shapeshifters , which essentially in one of their forms are warewolves. Don't tell me you never read other than romanitc novels pls.
Sorry, I've never read any romantic novels. And what does that have to do with anything?
Also, as far as I know, it's werewolf, not warewolf.
Arbedark
05-12-2006, 20:35
Sorry, I've never read any romantic novels. And what does that have to do with anything?
Also, as far as I know, it's werewolf, not warewolf.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar_nazi
Bulgarian
05-12-2006, 20:50
This thread is pathetic.
The only reason why people wont stop *****ing is not because theres some confusion or ignorance as to wether a wolf is better than a Barb. Anyone with any sense would know that the barb will always have the advantage.
The reason why its still going on is because morotsjos is one of the most rudest/disrespectful person on this forum. That's why he is banned.
If you would all shut up he wouldn't be making a new account to come back all the time. He can't argue with him self.
this is true
mainaman
05-12-2006, 21:28
Sorry, I've never read any romantic novels. And what does that have to do with anything?
Also, as far as I know, it's werewolf, not warewolf.I can see that you have nothing to say about the topic but still ardently try to post w/e.
me making spelling error is how relevant to the topic?
also what gives you the right to correct ppl that are nonnative speakers , when you yourself are nonnative speaker? troll less please
akumaxyz
05-12-2006, 21:47
Ce Olba you have got to be the most annoying poster ever that exist on these forums, you post irrelevant stuff all the time, theory craft to the max, and you pick little stuff spelling errors tiny mistakes that people make but woudn't even care.
from how i see it the wolf fans are trying to make people believe that they can be competitive in pvp which is not, and those who knows the truth are just flaming them all together.
Loki Mundane
05-12-2006, 21:58
I am by no means a leading authority on anything diablo, But I do consider myself a gamer. I be;ieve the reason for playing any game a a few
1.) You enjoy the genre...
2.) You enjoy the challange
3.) You enjoy the company of other people that play the game
I subscribe to the first two points completely with diablo and the third only partially.
I Like very much(think Borat) playing wolves. I have played all the other classes and enjoy playing a wolf more than any.
I play pvp in addition to pvm.
I don't have an awesome druid build but it does alright.
barbarians and well built pallys are very very difficult for me to beat in pvp. But!!!
Do i immediatly go make a barb or a pally?
No
A very simple answer. I like playing druids.
I can be competitve in pvp...but by no means am I ruling authority.
I think everyone should put their respective ego's aside and realize that your all talking about a game.
Imbecile
05-12-2006, 21:58
This thread is pathetic.
The only reason why people wont stop *****ing is not because theres some confusion or ignorance as to wether a wolf is better than a Barb. Anyone with any sense would know that the barb will always have the advantage.
The reason why its still going on is because morotsjos is one of the most rudest/disrespectful person on this forum. That's why he is banned.
If you would all shut up he wouldn't be making a new account to come back all the time. He can't argue with him self.
Morotsjos isn't rude, he is just honest. Unlike others, he doesn't wrap his statements in a cloud of fanboism, because barbs > wolves, end of story.
Morot is really blunt. That's pretty much it.
I can see that you have nothing to say about the topic but still ardently try to post w/e.
me making spelling error is how relevant to the topic?
also what gives you the right to correct ppl that are nonnative speakers , when you yourself are nonnative speaker? troll less please
I did not correct it because I thought it was wrong, which it was, but because it sounded ridiculous. And being native speaker of English does not matter. It does not give you any more rights, just more knowledge.
mainaman
05-12-2006, 22:13
I did not correct it because I thought it was wrong, which it was, but because it sounded ridiculous. And being native speaker of English does not matter. It does not give you any more rights, just more knowledge.
how can something that is not in your own language sound ridiculous?
a nonnative speaker will never know how a word thats incorrectly spelled/ pronaunsed sound to the native speaker. a nonnative speaker will only know there is a spelling/pronaunsiation mistake thats all . you really are the most annoying person on the form believe me. sorry for the spelling errors too lazy to check the dictionary , i count on you to correct me
by the way what the hell are you doing in the pvp forum when you dont play the game?
Uncle_Mike
05-12-2006, 22:30
by the way what the hell are you doing in the pvp forum when you dont play the game?
trolling?
and yes, morotsjos may have sounded rude but what can you do, it still does not deliver the message...
Also, not everyone is so offended by what he has posted, and not everyone is sick of it. again, HE WAS RIGHT.
Mike
by the way what the hell are you doing in the pvp forum when you dont play the game?
Me? I not more have any idea either. I still do go around for a very quick pubbing now and then, however I barely play any games. Guess I have to be a good boy and wait until christmas to get a new ps2.
Arbedark
06-12-2006, 00:13
Me? I not more have any idea either. I still do go around for a very quick pubbing now and then, however I barely play any games. Guess I have to be a good boy and wait until christmas to get a new ps2.
"I not more" is logically inconsistant.
Don't correct spelling and grammar of others until you can get your own right.
Dennis_KoreanGuy
06-12-2006, 00:15
haha, mega olba bashing here.
quick! say something clever and slick with grease to anger them even more!
"I not more" is logically inconsistant.
Don't correct spelling and grammar of others until you can get your own right.
It seems that I made a careless mistake.
Arbedark
06-12-2006, 00:48
It seems that I made a careless mistake.
Just like other people do.
So stop trying to bust their balls over it.
Käsittää?
Just like other people do.
So stop trying to bust their balls over it.
Käsittää?
Ei, en käsitä, olen aivokuollut zombie-elämänmuoto joka vaeltelee ajassa ja paikassa.
I made that single mistake once, he made it at least twice. There is a difference to it. I guess that's just how it always is: a near-perfect person makes one mistake and the fuss is huge compared to an average person making 10.
Have fun finding things that you can use to insult me.
Oh, did you know that 1+2 is 3?
O.
Arbedark
06-12-2006, 01:02
Ei, en käsitä, olen aivokuollut zombie-elämänmuoto joka vaeltelee ajassa ja paikassa.
I made that single mistake once, he made it at least twice. There is a difference to it. I guess that's just how it always is: a near-perfect person makes one mistake and the fuss is huge compared to an average person making 10.
Have fun finding things that you can use to insult me.
Oh, did you know that 1+2 is 3?
O.
I'm not trying to insult you, you do a good enough job of that yourself. I'm merely trying to point out that you're an arrogant kid who needs to realise that he doesn't know everything.
And yes, I do know that 1 + 2 = 3 and I can prove it correctly too, unlike you who. Next time you try and show off your maths skills I might pop in and correct the flaws you make, just so you can strive towards this near perfectness you believe you obtain :smiley:
I'm not trying to insult you, you do a good enough job of that yourself. I'm merely trying to point out that you're an arrogant kid who needs to realise that he doesn't know everything.
Sorry, but if you've gotten the idea that I'm thinking that I know everything, you are pretty damn wrong. Stop making stupid assumptions that have no valid information whatsoever. It only makes me giggle more.
And yes, I do know that 1 + 2 = 3 and I can prove it correctly too, unlike you who. Next time you try and show off your maths skills I might pop in and correct the flaws you make, just so you can strive towards this near perfectness you believe you obtain :smiley:
A+B=C only and only if C-A=B.
Perfection in maths. Hah, that's funny. Point me to where did I say anything about perfection in maths.
Arbedark
06-12-2006, 01:15
Sorry, but if you've gotten the idea that I'm thinking that I know everything, you are pretty damn wrong. Stop making stupid assumptions that have no valid information whatsoever. It only makes me giggle more.
A+B=C only and only if C-A=B.
Perfection in maths. Hah, that's funny. Point me to where did I say anything about perfection in maths.
Once again you fail to understand the concept of hyperbole. Go look it up in a dictionary.
:idea: While you're at it look up "know it all", "ignorant" and "attention-whore"
Also thats a far-cry from being anything remotely resembling a correct mathematical proof. All you have done is re-arrange the equation, which any simpleton can do.
By the way, its iff (if and only if), not only and only if.
Darksteel
06-12-2006, 01:17
Ce Olba I just wanted to pop in and say keep fighting the good fight. <3.
Arbedark
06-12-2006, 01:19
Ce Olba I just wanted to pop in and say keep fighting the good fight. <3.
The fight to let retards use the internet?
Once again you fail to understand the concept of hyperbole. Go look it up in a dictionary.
I find dictionaries boring to read.
:idea: While you're at it look up "know it all", "ignorant" and "attention-whore"
Sorry, I do not think that I know everything. As for the attention-whore, you are too wrong. If I was an attention-whore, I would officially have AD/HD. Which I do not.
By the way, its iff (if and only if), not only and only if.
You seriously think that I study maths in English?
By the way, I find your attempts to piss me off to be rather comical and pathetic. I would be giggling if I wasn't reading a manga and if it wasn't so late.
He doesn't necessarily need to be constantly acknowleged to point out others' blatant stupidity. Personally I enjoy watching how much his remarks enrage various forum trolls.
i'm not going to claim i know moro like you guys do, cause, well, i don't lol. for that i suppose the people that know him outside this wolf vs. barb arguing respect him. but i don't know him too well mysef, and to me this does look like trolling, with the constant flaming and whatnot. i'd bet if he just started here and these were his first posts, everyone would call him out as a troll. no i'm not a wolf fan (actually druids are my least favorite class). again, people complain of wolf/kiba fanboyism, yet people seem to defend moro tooth and nail about his attitude because he's been here awhile & is respected.
the thing i don't get is that there's an 'it's ok' feeling because he's a good dueler, been around & is respected, and/or is consistently right and just states it bluntly. does that mean after i get a certain amount of respect i can come in and flame everybody?
moro: you need to just step back and relax a little:cool:
Arbedark
06-12-2006, 01:54
If I was an attention-whore, I would officially have AD/HD. Which I do not.
I find this to be one of the most retarded statements anyone has ever said.
Attention-whoring is a consequence of ADHD, but it is not mutually exclusive. If you're not an attention whore, then prove it. Make NO more posts about any grammar or any posts here where you don't actually make a point.
Any posts other than the aforementioned ones are just proof that you are an attention whore.
And I like the fact that you are now ignoring the whole mathematical proof thing since you can't make yourself look clever to people who don't understand anything about advanced mathematics.
Also I'm not trying to piss you off. I'm merely pointing out how pathetic you are to the few individuals who haven't realised it yet.
akumaxyz
06-12-2006, 02:46
if you think about it this olba crave attention more than anyone, just look at all the bvc threads, hes respond to almost every one of them, and he isnt even playing the game currently,plus he said he doesnt have a social life, all he do is respond to threads on this forum and picking out people's mistakes at grammer,spelling or whatever kind of errors they had made.
back on topic.
i dont think anybody is defending anyone, its just that the wolf fans are making it like shape druids are something which is not, so i think that more or less piss alot of people off and you get this kind of thread.
if you think about it this olba crave attention more than anyone, just look at all the bvc threads, hes respond to almost every one of them, and he isnt even playing the game currently,plus he said he doesnt have a social life, all he do is respond to threads on this forum and picking out people's mistakes at grammer,spelling or whatever kind of errors they had made.
back on topic.
i dont think anybody is defending anyone, its just that the wolf fans are making it like shape druids are something which is not, so i think that more or less piss alot of people off and you get this kind of thread.
maybe:tongue: i wasn't watching all the threads so i don't know how it all started, but it's pretty much become a huge flame war topic:shocked:
inkanddaggger
06-12-2006, 03:19
Mat, I find the place where you have chosen to take this friendly post quite disrespectful, both to myself and the dueling community on these forums.
Did you read what I wrote before posting?
I said - we dueled with you hosting for a bit - but I really only considered about four of them duels, the rest were us testing damage, seeing if doomzs can unshift a druid, discussing gear, testing damage returned on SoB and spirit wolves, trading gear back and forth. Then we tried to create games with me hosting, and you couldn't join, so we chose a public game on uswest, where we both had horrendous ping. We did about 3 what you could call duels then, and then a few that were merely dicking around - like the time i summoned a poison creeper on you and you died. It was funny, it was fun.
In the meantime, I was making you items on single player editor, editing myself in some weapons to try - out of the hour or so we did this we were only in fact in games for 20 or 30 minutes, with about 15 minutes of actual duel time. You know this, so why bother with screens of our msn log?
Also, recall what I spoke with you about while in game - I said "one of us should post this to dii.net when we get a chance, just so people know it happened." Your response was "Well whatever, but I don't even care about dii.net really because it is a horrible forum filled with morons." Then we discussed what forums we each belong to, talked about jsp, etc. I didn't do anything that I said I wasn't going to do.
The "fun duels" vs "serious duels" thing is sort of ludicrous - The majority of the time, you had 50 ping as you were hosting and I had anywhere from 200-500. That I could kill you period in that sort of situation is in itself incredible. And yes, I feel that when you we started and I beat you the first couple of times you were shocked because of seeing me using things you haven't seen anyone else use. After that you did a nice flawless on me, then after that you killed me in a tri-whirl with about 1 hit left on yourself. I have screen shots of the duels that I considered to be duels, but don't think me moronic enough to claim that us pissing around were duels. And I will definately admit the majority of the time we were pissing around, but I seriously doubt you would flake entirely on this sort of opportunity.
Next - did you not read my third or so post in this very thread? I said " WW is still > fury." I haven't ever and will never deny that. The mechanics of ww are superior to those of any other melee attack in this game. I am absolutely certain that if we both lived on the same continent and did a string of 20 very serious duels, the bvc would end up with a 70% proficiency rate. A BvB would likely end up with a 95% proficiency rate. I merely accepted your challenge as a gesture, claiming nothing other than the FACT that a fury druid can kill a blockless ww barbarian, at least some of the time.
Now, I considered the atmosphere and mood of our msn discussions and our gaming experience to be friendly, mannered, and respectful. Why do you have to come dragging such filth and character assassination unecessarily? I never attempted to defame you, merely posted that in friendly duels we had a fairly equal kill rate and that a fury druid can kill a bvc. and you even admitted that you can see that a lot of wolves can probobly kill 90% of the bvcs on all the realms. Not flawlessly dominate them, but get a kill on them nonetheless.
To those of you discussing fury mechanics, and druid block/fhr mechanics - you are forgetting that ww is an AoE attack and is not stationary and is not constantly in range, and that the fury druid itself is not necessarily stationary and within range of ww hits. You also are forgetting that 100% chance to hit is both impossible and that it is mathematically unlikely that anything approching a 95% proficiency in hit rating is going to occur. There are also desynch issues surrouning AoA range on melee attacks.
To those of you who have participated here for no other reason to to flame or to jump on bandwagons, shame on you. To Mat - I feel disrespected and I feel that you owe me an apology.
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