View Full Version : West NL vs Ladder
blobswannabe
28-11-2006, 00:31
Ladder duelers who wish to prove you can compete against NL duelers leave your accounts here. We'll find out whether ladder or NL is better when ladder resets. Same goes for NL duelers who want to prove they are better. Instead of flaming each other and saying dodge dodge doge it's better that we prove our points with action.
Mine is *Die.hard also you can look for *muir, *mcm375, *blobs, *die.turbo, *Sorc, *piecebypiece
(Don't get me wrong this is just a tiny fraction of the decent duelers on NL)
blobswannabe
28-11-2006, 01:13
Hmm hopefully i'm wrong about everyone on ladder being all talk no action. But it sure is looking that way.
Dennis_KoreanGuy
28-11-2006, 02:23
lol what's up with people and NL > L thing? I mean obviously NL must be better as rich ppl with skills would see less of a reason to go to Ladder than say someone poor and wanting that self development feeling as they advance their chars.
Clearly not the case for many people, but I would assume NL > L in dueling skills generally. Did anyone try to actually deny this fact? Its just that you guys have this superior attitude that turns a lot of people off.
and btw, you could just mod out 2 exact replicas of 2 chars and battle it out over tcp/ip. If you were that intent on proving NL > L on a challenger.
Clay bizzle
28-11-2006, 02:26
*gortherence3 - presently ladder
blobswannabe
28-11-2006, 02:28
lol what's up with people and NL > L thing? I mean obviously NL must be better as rich ppl with skills would see less of a reason to go to Ladder than say someone poor and wanting that self development feeling as they advance their chars.
Clearly not the case for many people, but I would assume NL > L in dueling skills generally. Did anyone try to actually deny this fact? Its just that you guys have this superior attitude that turns a lot of people off.
and btw, you could just mod out 2 exact replicas of 2 chars and battle it out over tcp/ip. If you were that intent on proving NL > L on a challenger.
You play NL too right? post your account?
Dennis_KoreanGuy
28-11-2006, 02:29
You play NL too right? post your account?
my account without _. hmm reminds me my mage probly countdown till expire. :tongue:
im gonna go play o2jam. if you wanna duel plz pm me. :cool: nite
This is offtopic a bit but are any of you westies familiar with "WiZ" clan?
Also how much does a full char on west cost. I'm disappointed with how bad east has gotten but don't want to strictly play d2pk. Already sold my blizzer and looking to spread out ~_~. Europe's my first choice but i -might- be able to afford both
i am in 1arbing, 2arbing, 3arbing (don't really want to representing ladder or n/l since those 3 chars are leveled in ladder but i duel in n/l with other chars), just wanna duel that's all.
blobswannabe
28-11-2006, 03:33
This is offtopic a bit but are any of you westies familiar with "WiZ" clan?
Also how much does a full char on west cost. I'm disappointed with how bad east has gotten but don't want to strictly play d2pk. Already sold my blizzer and looking to spread out ~_~. Europe's my first choice but i -might- be able to afford both
yes it died a long time ago. Some of the cc-comp trading mods were in Wiz. It was a noob aa clan in 1.10 but in 1.11 they were supposed to be manner.
And a full char on west doesn't cost much these days since the mass duping. I'm not so sure about getting a perm char though. Since i haven't traded in god knows how many years.
in my opinion ladder duelers < non ladder duelers only because of item avalibility. they dont have huge variety of dupes. as for skills i think both ladder and nl would be similar.
btw its not like die clan pks gm anyway. ur always in mass teams w/ bm tactics and nk.
nl = ladder both have good and bad.
blobswannabe
28-11-2006, 03:44
in my opinion ladder duelers < non ladder duelers only because of item avalibility. they dont have huge variety of dupes. as for skills i think both ladder and nl would be similar.
btw its not like die clan pks gm anyway. ur always in mass teams w/ bm tactics and nk.
Are you bitter cuz die-salsal owned you? 1240821042192394732 NL publets drown themselves in tears at the mention die because of salsal's constant pub stumping. However,I don't pub with salsal i'm mostly solo and i'm not really in die anymore anyway. I was in other clans doing 4on4 clan pk mostly as i'm pretty bores with d2 except for 4on4s.
Why don't you post your account for 1on1? Instead of whining about mass teaming. The fact is you are talking **** wihtout posting your account just shows your all bark not bite.
Don't get so bitter just because you can't beat legit BM pkers like salsal and nv even with your town hopping aa fc.
who cares about bm, and aa is a completely different issue.
blobswannabe
28-11-2006, 03:45
nl = ladder both have good and bad.
Post account? I'll make sure you wont' be saying that when ladder resets. It's true that NL has its share of chumps but unlike NL ladder has no good duelers period.
die-salsa = weak. i never see u pking without ur zon and barb with you. most of the time u run away until ur friends can back u up and then 3v1 me.
a_new_order
yea i am looking forward for dueling ladder duelers after reset, not that i want to prove anything, but i've done all my pvp in nl so just wanna see if it's different than dueling the so call "top/well known" duelers in ladder, because they are kinda overrated, not that they are really bad, but just above average in n/l
blobswannabe
28-11-2006, 03:51
die-salsa = weak. i never see u pking without ur zon and barb with you. most of the time u run away until ur friends can back u up and then 3v1 me.
a_new_order
? LOL are you stupid or what I already said i don't go to pub games with salsal. That barb is die.forsaken's charmless bo barb.
I'm in op pvpwest for those who wanna duel.
Why is everyone in West :undecided: .... I had the misfortune of starting out on East and Ive never had the heart to switch... *runs of to make West accnt*
@ denniskoreanguy: Not everyone on ladder plays it to start out.. some (i like to think myself) truly do like a change from the monotony of making chars without having to work anymore.... besides, I dont like overpaying for ladder only runewords, so that doesnt give me alot of options (i havnt played nl in a looong time, so ill have to check it out if this ladderr ever ends :undecided: )
blobswannabe
28-11-2006, 05:57
LOL so far only one west ladder person posted his account and he wasn't even involved in the whole werewolf argument. Also as romper stumper pointed out since you ladder people restart each ladder season you should have some pvp chars from previous ladder seasons that you can duel with instead of telling us to play 24/7 and make ladder chars when ladder is about to reset.
tmd turka
28-11-2006, 06:52
Does west still have rampant account hacking or was that just a rumor that started on east? Made me hesitant to switch to west and I was hoping someone could confirm/deny this for me.
Thanks
blobswannabe
28-11-2006, 06:54
Does west still have rampant account hacking or was that just a rumor that started on east? Made me hesitant to switch to west and I was hoping someone could confirm/deny this for me.
Thanks
You can't get hacked unless you download something with keylogger. So there's no need to worry.
tmd turka
28-11-2006, 06:58
Thanks blobswannabe.
That made me feel alot better. I will join West and maybe meet you in NL someday.
I will of course have to play ladder for a bit since switching realms means im broke. :)
Verashiden
28-11-2006, 07:54
Is this only for HLD? I MLD/LLD So I guess I'm out of the running T-T
You can't get hacked unless you download something with keylogger. So there's no need to worry.
Actually not true ^_~
You can't get hacked unless you download something with keylogger. So there's no need to worry.
*mutters something about bruters*
there were e-mails with keyloggers attached sent out.
salsa = salsal? or are they different characters?
kavehtabriaz
28-11-2006, 09:26
You can't get hacked unless you download something with keylogger. So there's no need to worry.
blobswannabe switch to west ladder so we can have a one good dueler.
moonlike
28-11-2006, 10:19
This is offtopic a bit but are any of you westies familiar with "WiZ" clan?
Also how much does a full char on west cost. I'm disappointed with how bad east has gotten but don't want to strictly play d2pk. Already sold my blizzer and looking to spread out ~_~. Europe's my first choice but i -might- be able to afford both
go to eu ld we have many tvts recently and channel op duel is always full :)
hrs go now for 2.5 fg XD
Tvt's suck damnit.
All of those folks I could take 1 on 1 when you left maryn, but I dont think a ww/trapper is much of team player, especially with a barb :(
moonlike
28-11-2006, 12:09
Tvt's suck damnit.
All of those folks I could take 1 on 1 when you left maryn, but I dont think a ww/trapper is much of team player, especially with a barb :(
lol u just duel in bad tvt's (yesterday night i had really long nice tvt with tib bjuggi and few ez_pks xD), besides that 2v2 we had yesterday we could win but i had 200-500 ping all time , we lost once because i lagged and went town cuz i was sure u killed hdn lol , tbh we could go better if i took blizz sorc vs camper ama+ hammer , but kamikaze barb was fun XD.
dont duel hax and oNe clans in tvt, they are bigges criers and **** player who will run 24/7 with 95% precasted sorc with 27 life rep , not worth time with idiots ^ - that situation was yesterday when 95%es soso run all time to rep life vs bjuggi and bow ama , so bjugg decided to holy bolted ama rofl so much cry from sorc buhaha , oNe clan left after few min of ****talk and we had really nice tvt without them.
The HaX folks arent good 1 on 1. Havent met any oNe, and the only other "clan " I know of is Gl and they suck.
This entire thread/notion is fairly ridiculous. I would have to say that 90% of the people I have played with on ladder played 1.08+ at the very least, were professional duelers at whatever class they chose, and decided to play ladder for the experience of an actual challenge, which NL couldn't offer. Then you have other things - someone moving realms and getting offered free gear on ladder to start up, or just the point that it is easier to make great gear and get started back or on another realm by using the ladder system.
If you are arguing gear choices, I can tell you I have at least as valuable or probobly even more valuable gear on ladder than the vast majority of NL people - 37 perm 3/xx/20s, 20 stat torches and annis, perfect ravens, perfect griefs, botdzs , 6/6/4 bo sticks, you name it, it's on ladder.
Anyhow, I don't count as a ladder player as I have only played ladder for a few months of my entire career, but anyways - I do play ladder now so I am laughing about the logic of this thread.
*Inkanddagger on uswest, LLD101 *crossouttheeyes on USEast.
I play both L and NL on East, have a ww/trapsin and a cheap fury/rabies on NL - the latter is waiting for ladder to reset so he can get a rebuild and have better options. On L, I have a Vanquisher that holds his own, but could use some life charms. *godlessdragon for ladder and *godlessreborn for nonladder.
Smithenator
29-11-2006, 03:00
I play a ww/trap that is decent and I wouldnt mind a few nl duels once this resets, although I obviously wont beat the best on nl because I dont beat the best on ladder, hehe. *xSmithenatorx2
blobswannabe
29-11-2006, 21:09
blobswannabe switch to west ladder so we can have a one good dueler.
The only way I'd play ladder is If a friend let me use his char. Still there's no incentive for me to play ladder. As NL pubs >>>> Ladder pubs, and private 4on4 duels are what interest me the most and you can't find those on ladder.
I just feel the need to ask this.
What would show more skill, tvt's or 1 on 1?
morotsjos
29-11-2006, 23:07
I just feel the need to ask this.
What would show more skill, tvt's or 1 on 1?
depending on others or doing the job yourself... hmmm...
1v1 shows most the most skill since you dont have to rely on your teammates for help, buffs, curses, ect.
1v1 shows most the most skill since you dont have to rely on your teammates for help, buffs, curses, ect.
Not entirely true. I've seen kids amazing at 1v1 blow in 4v4s, and vice versa.
blobswannabe
30-11-2006, 03:23
depending on others or doing the job yourself... hmmm...
Not quite. Most of the most skilled west NL duelers are 4on4 league duelers. (obvious just about all of them 1on1 and pub as well) The skill of the average 4on4 dueler is infinitely superior to that of the average pub pker's. Also team duels require a little something called teamwork so you need more than 1on1 skills to get it done.
Also 1on1 is very poorly balanced. Some classes have extreme advantage over others, and a lot of times it just comes down to a battle of gear switches and mega defensive dueling. The only 1on1 matchup that I consider very skillful is nvn. In nearly all other match ups most people run and spam like mad which is extremely boring and skillless.
For example BVC requires skill to be truely effective against casters other than hammerdins.( You chase them around) However, it doesn't really take skill for other classes to duel a barb. Considering most chars just run and spam against them.
In high skill level 4on4 duels being able to name-lock extremely fast is very important. It also takes a variety of other skills to be an effective 4on4 duelers. IMO it takes more skill to be a good 4on4 dueler than a 1on1er.
HappyAssassin
30-11-2006, 06:38
and private 4on4 duels are what interest me the most and you can't find those on ladder.
Sadly this is mostly true, there was a time when ladder was full of 4v4 duels (there were usually a couple games of our best making teams) but as far as I can tell most of the good clans have died off, and therefor most of the good 4v4. 4v4 was the most fun I've had in D2, and also the hardest. Its very, very fast, and you have to work with your teammates really well to be effective.
*jacky. is the only account I can use these days, I use my friend's BvC and the WW/Trapper I helped him make.
Eilo Rytyj
30-11-2006, 06:52
Ladder > NL because I play Ladder.
That's a good enough reason I think :laugh:.
morotsjos
30-11-2006, 07:03
Not quite. Most of the most skilled west NL duelers are 4on4 league duelers. (obvious just about all of them 1on1 and pub as well) The skill of the average 4on4 dueler is infinitely superior to that of the average pub pker's. Also team duels require a little something called teamwork so you need more than 1on1 skills to get it done.
Also 1on1 is very poorly balanced. Some classes have extreme advantage over others, and a lot of times it just comes down to a battle of gear switches and mega defensive dueling. The only 1on1 matchup that I consider very skillful is nvn. In nearly all other match ups most people run and spam like mad which is extremely boring and skillless.
For example BVC requires skill to be truely effective against casters other than hammerdins.( You chase them around) However, it doesn't really take skill for other classes to duel a barb. Considering most chars just run and spam against them.
In high skill level 4on4 duels being able to name-lock extremely fast is very important. It also takes a variety of other skills to be an effective 4on4 duelers. IMO it takes more skill to be a good 4on4 dueler than a 1on1er.
you got a point, but in my experience most tvt duels end up being even MORE defensive than 1v1, where the team with the most patience usually wins zzzzzzzz...
blobswannabe
30-11-2006, 08:32
you got a point, but in my experience most tvt duels end up being even MORE defensive than 1v1, where the team with the most patience usually wins zzzzzzzz...
In some cases yes. But my team always rushes and somewhat recklessly. (most people in my clans are recklessly aggressive when it comes to dueling) I'm probably the most aggressive dueler i've ever seen as I'm always the one chasing someone else. The top west NL clan shadow-alliance also feature a lot of very good aggressive duelers who know how to work together perfectly.(They've been dueling together since 09). Clan duels against Clan SA were some of the most fun duels i've ever had.
I kinda got bored with 1on1's and BM pub pking in 1.10. When I started playing again in 1.10 4on4 was what got me interested again. There is just so much more variety in 4on4 than in 1on1 and having to use team work just make it so damn fun. Sadly though clans have been dying lately, I'm only on d2 2-3 hours a week these days.
you got a point, but in my experience most tvt duels end up being even MORE defensive than 1v1, where the team with the most patience usually wins zzzzzzzz...
Thats my point exactly. I absolutly despise pure defensive play.
morotsjos
30-11-2006, 16:31
In some cases yes. But my team always rushes and somewhat recklessly. (most people in my clans are recklessly aggressive when it comes to dueling) I'm probably the most aggressive dueler i've ever seen as I'm always the one chasing someone else. The top west NL clan shadow-alliance also feature a lot of very good aggressive duelers who know how to work together perfectly.(They've been dueling together since 09). Clan duels against Clan SA were some of the most fun duels i've ever had.
I kinda got bored with 1on1's and BM pub pking in 1.10. When I started playing again in 1.10 4on4 was what got me interested again. There is just so much more variety in 4on4 than in 1on1 and having to use team work just make it so damn fun. Sadly though clans have been dying lately, I'm only on d2 2-3 hours a week these days.
tvts with such players are gold of course. problem is finding a balance between people who dont suck and dont care about score -> defwhoring, at least in my experience which somewhat turned me off tvts. that and the fact that i blow, always think my team will cover me, and tend to die in less than a minute regardless ^^
also using barb vs teams consisting of hammer+bow+smiter/foh+trap/whatever is kinda annoying...
Uchiha Sasuke
30-11-2006, 16:48
What're you damn kids whining about now.... god...
God dammit... anyone who plays ladder can easily platy nl. Anyone who plays nl can easily switch over to ladder. They're all just people... how can the realm effect skill? Maybe your undeniably incorrect grammar has something to do with it?
This forum was made so that we didn't have to deal with people like you. Either play nice, or get lost...
Looks like imma become NL player too. :prop: :evil:
morotsjos
30-11-2006, 17:15
What're you damn kids whining about now.... god...
God dammit... anyone who plays ladder can easily platy nl. Anyone who plays nl can easily switch over to ladder. They're all just people... how can the realm effect skill? Maybe your undeniably incorrect grammar has something to do with it?
This forum was made so that we didn't have to deal with people like you. Either play nice, or get lost...
Looks like imma become NL player too. :prop: :evil:
considering you're the ignorant who knows nothing and asks completely clueless questions i'd be silent in your clothes. maybe your undeniably laughable holier-than-thou-attitude is somehow correlated with your incompetence? now get lost, this challenge-thread doesn't need more tears.
blobswannabe
30-11-2006, 18:00
considering you're the ignorant who knows nothing and asks completely clueless questions i'd be silent in your clothes. maybe your undeniably laughable holier-than-thou-attitude is somehow correlated with your incompetence? now get lost, this challenge-thread doesn't need more tears.
Don't take him seriously, he's just the new Arctic Khan.
Bulgarian
01-12-2006, 05:06
Your trying to prove a point which cannot be proven, and this time morotsjos isnt here to agree with you.
NL = L, get it through your head.
blobswannabe
01-12-2006, 05:28
Your trying to prove a point which cannot be proven, and this time morotsjos isnt here to agree with you.
NL = L, get it through your head.
Pathetic. You didn't even post your account. typical ladder dodger. Duel us when ladder merges so we can end your denial for you.
Also is it j ust me or is every game laggy as **** these days due to allt he noobs duping like mad.
Bulgarian
01-12-2006, 05:59
Pathetic. You didn't even post your account. typical ladder dodger. Duel us when ladder merges so we can end your denial for you.
Also is it j ust me or is every game laggy as **** these days due to allt he noobs duping like mad.
Im not trying to prove that L > NL. So what would be the point of dueling?
Also, what am I dodging?
blobswannabe
01-12-2006, 06:06
Im not trying to prove that L > NL. So what would be the point of dueling?
Also, what am I dodging?
I want to help ladder chumps realize how much they suck.
warcraftgosu
01-12-2006, 07:16
Bring it on, do u have a zealot?
I am owning in Zealot Vs Zealot Ladder right now
*pow_SL_II
blobswannabe
01-12-2006, 07:22
Bring it on, do u have a zealot?
I am owning in Zealot Vs Zealot Ladder right now
*pow_SL_II
If the paladin temple's still around you should find plenty of zealers there. I'm not into click and hold melee duels.
blobswannabe
06-12-2006, 20:26
Hopefully blizzard will make ladder merge soon. So we can end all these werewolf related flame wars and fanboism once and for all. I can't wait till the day that cocky werewolf fanboys who think they are cool because they can "own" ladder tal sorcs(played by 9 year olds who started playing d2 a week ago) finally learn their place.
Also notice there isn't a single werewolf player on west NL that posts here. It's also amusing how all their chars from previous ladder seasons all "expired" eventhough they claim to restart each and every ladder season.
You just had to resurrect this thread?
blobswannabe
06-12-2006, 20:42
You just had to resurrect this thread?
Well answer my questions. Why is it that there isn't a single werewolf player that plays west NL on this forum? Morojstos arleady proved his point on europe by beating stoutewulf 50-0. It's time for me to embarrass the west ones.
Also what is wrong with a thread that asks for duels in the pvp forum? It's funny how all those diabloii.net chickens act like they are offended whenever someone asks for a duel to prove their point.
It's funny how no one on west NL has shown up to duel me since I totally destroyed fenris and lld-vampire(aka cockiest noobs from west ladder of all time) 20-0 and sent them crawling back to ladder.
Bulgarian
06-12-2006, 21:23
Well answer my questions. Why is it that there isn't a single werewolf player that plays west NL on this forum? Morojstos arleady proved his point on europe by beating stoutewulf 50-0. It's time for me to embarrass the west ones.
Also what is wrong with a thread that asks for duels in the pvp forum? It's funny how all those diabloii.net chickens act like they are offended whenever someone asks for a duel to prove their point.
It's funny how no one on west NL has shown up to duel me since I totally destroyed fenris and lld-vampire(aka cockiest noobs from west ladder of all time) 20-0 and sent them crawling back to ladder.
Its funny because all Im trying to do is tell you how ridiculous you sound.
Uncle_Mike
06-12-2006, 21:43
Hopefully blizzard will make ladder merge soon. So we can end all these werewolf related flame wars and fanboism once and for all. I can't wait till the day that cocky werewolf fanboys who think they are cool because they can "own" ladder tal sorcs(played by 9 year olds who started playing d2 a week ago) finally learn their place.
Also notice there isn't a single werewolf player on west NL that posts here. It's also amusing how all their chars from previous ladder seasons all "expired" eventhough they claim to restart each and every ladder season.
It does not take reset to settle the wolf>all debate...
And tal sorcs have a nice aura :laugh:
blobswannabe
06-12-2006, 21:48
Its funny because all Im trying to do is tell you how ridiculous you sound.
and you play ladder LOL.
Bulgarian
07-12-2006, 01:07
and you play ladder LOL.
and you play non ladder LOL.
Point is, im not trying to duel you. Im not dodging anything, and your posts make me laugh.
blobswannabe
07-12-2006, 01:19
and you play non ladder LOL.
Point is, im not trying to duel you. Im not dodging anything, and your posts make me laugh.
My point is no one on west NL never spews any nonsense because of me and mcm. Same for east NL before luis quit.
Bulgarian
07-12-2006, 02:07
My point is no one on west NL never spews any nonsense because of me and mcm. Same for east NL before luis quit.
Your a big man now.
akumaxyz
07-12-2006, 03:53
Well answer my questions. Why is it that there isn't a single werewolf player that plays west NL on this forum? Morojstos arleady proved his point on europe by beating stoutewulf 50-0. It's time for me to embarrass the west ones.
Also what is wrong with a thread that asks for duels in the pvp forum? It's funny how all those diabloii.net chickens act like they are offended whenever someone asks for a duel to prove their point.
It's funny how no one on west NL has shown up to duel me since I totally destroyed fenris and lld-vampire(aka cockiest noobs from west ladder of all time) 20-0 and sent them crawling back to ladder.
lmao i saw this icevampire thats his account name, he got a shaper call maul, its a completed joked lol die in 3 seconds to my libby with griefpb
This is ridicoulous, all you do is flame people, beleive it or not, but insulting people, telling them they suck based on where they play is flaming.....
You people have exaggerated the wolf debate waaaay to far. All they ever said was that wolves COULD duel, and that played right they could hold their ground against other classes, they never said wolves > all. You seem to be insulted by the suggestion that wolves have a CHANCE at beating a barb, yes, most people on this forum agree that a properly played BVC will kill the wolf most of the time, but that does not mean that wolves suck at dueling period, just that BVC's have an advantage over them.
All the pro-wolves on the forum are saying is that wolves can duel effectively when played right, and you just seem to feel threatened and end up spamming flames about how "wolves suxors nubz only playz".
All i have too say is woof grrrr growl......
These threads are pointless as bogie and everyone else who can see past the flames stated.
oh and awoooooooo!
Bulgarian
07-12-2006, 05:46
This is ridicoulous, all you do is flame people, beleive it or not, but insulting people, telling them they suck based on where they play is flaming.....
You people have exaggerated the wolf debate waaaay to far. All they ever said was that wolves COULD duel, and that played right they could hold their ground against other classes, they never said wolves > all. You seem to be insulted by the suggestion that wolves have a CHANCE at beating a barb, yes, most people on this forum agree that a properly played BVC will kill the wolf most of the time, but that does not mean that wolves suck at dueling period, just that BVC's have an advantage over them.
All the pro-wolves on the forum are saying is that wolves can duel effectively when played right, and you just seem to feel threatened and end up spamming flames about how "wolves suxors nubz only playz".
I agree with you again. Unfortuneatly, according to them you are only dodging because you play ladder.
akumaxyz
07-12-2006, 05:53
hehe any serious barb pvper wont ever lose to a wolf druid, its just some wolfs cant take the truth. i cant imagine a barb lose to a fury/rabies if you stack enough psn resist.
blobswannabe
07-12-2006, 06:10
Don't bother talking **** if your not gonna duel me.
hehe any serious barb pvper wont ever lose to a wolf druid, its just some wolfs cant take the truth. i cant imagine a barb lose to a fury/rabies if you stack enough psn resist.
That must mean moro isnt a serious pvp bvc since he didnt bother bein serious vs ink , and that also must mean there is no serious bvc's on west ladder errrr....... if any bvc on ladder west wants duel me with bvc and is ok too have it frapped message me or send me a pm.
*Lycan
blobswannabe
07-12-2006, 06:14
All i have too say is woof grrrr growl......
These threads are pointless as bogie and everyone else who can see past the flames stated.
oh and awoooooooo!
act high and mighty all you want. As soon as ladder merges your gonna dissappear forever just as fenris and lld-vampire did.
act high and mighty all you want. As soon as ladder merges your gonna dissappear forever just as fenris and lld-vampire did.
didnt i chat with you in druid grove lil while ago? smash right?
you seemed like a cool guy then , so why you talk junk on teh forums?
I growl a thee.... growlzzzzz......
This is ridicoulous, all you do is flame people, beleive it or not, but insulting people, telling them they suck based on where they play is flaming.....
This is a valid point. And if you judge people by where and which they play, you are either a random hypocrite who just thinks certain realms are better than others, or you've played on all of those realms, Ladder and Non-ladder and you still do. The latter is highly unlikely, considering the time it would take to get a godly/good dueling character going on all the realms except Asia's. Thus, you only choice is pretty much the former. In this case it should be clear that you should just stay quiet. Yes indeed, there is and have been a lot of duelers widely known in all other realms, such as Koda, mcm and luis.
You people have exaggerated the wolf debate waaaay to far. All they ever said was that wolves COULD duel, and that played right they could hold their ground against other classes, they never said wolves > all. You seem to be insulted by the suggestion that wolves have a CHANCE at beating a barb, yes, most people on this forum agree that a properly played BVC will kill the wolf most of the time, but that does not mean that wolves suck at dueling period, just that BVC's have an advantage over them.
Well, the point is that the wolfplayers did say that they can defeat barbarians. And Kiba clearly said that he gives most/all barbarians a run for their money, which would imply that he defeats most of them. This however either means that he is lying or overexaggerating or then the barbarians he duels suck. All of which are pretty not-so-good options. And morotsjos has already proved that even the top wolves cannot destroy barbarians by defeating Stoutewolf who is most likely the best wolf gear- and skillwise currently.
However, it is a fact that a wolf will slay a halfassed or unprepaired barbarian. I know this from dueling Stoutewolf and I got beaten. This is mostly due to the gear differences and the fact that I had never really dueled any wolves at all before that encounter except for some random fireclaws bears. This is due to the extreme rarity of wolves. Which again is due to the fact that they require a lot of wealth to build and lack teleport. Teleport is a thing that most PvPers won't play with. The only duelers that you see that have no teleport are wolves, MLD/LLD, BvBs, Zons, Zeal v Zealers and Smite v Smiters. Of course there are some hammerdins too, but those are rarer.
All the pro-wolves on the forum are saying is that wolves can duel effectively when played right, and you just seem to feel threatened and end up spamming flames about how "wolves suxors nubz only playz".
Can you tell me how someone can feel threatened in an Internet society where pictures, addresses, phonenumbers and names are hidden? Of course you can mean that they feel offended by the fact that some people are going against the common opinion. Personally I think both of these are good; the people who are player underhanded characters and show that those characters can be fun and decently effective and those people who feel offended by the fact that those people who play the underhanded characters start talking big. Both are totally normal. There's nothing bad in either, or at least I cannot see any bad in them. Can you? Of course there are people like morotsjos who will deny anything and everything that goes against of their very own, private and very abnormal opinion. However, if you bother to fight with such people for a long time, you are the fool, not him.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Debates are what make facts. However, pointless debates make nothing more but hatred and negativity. Please, be wise and stop with the pointless debate before it goes out of hand. Even though, it already has, looking at morotsjos and his being banned.
And no, I am not taking any sides here. I am not on the sides of the BvCs or the wolves. Yes by normal logic I should be defending the BvCs, but I do not want to be more involved than I already am.
blobswannabe
07-12-2006, 06:19
didnt i chat with you in druid grove lil while ago? smash right?
you seemed like a cool guy then , so why you talk junk on teh forums?
I growl a thee.... growlzzzzz......
Not smash. There are plenty of people who can duel on nl other than him. Do you happen to have any chars from previous ladder seasons you can duel me with or did they "expire". Cuz it doesn't look like blizzard's gonna end the current ladder season soon.
blobswannabe
07-12-2006, 06:22
This is a valid point. And if you judge people by where and which they play, you are either a random hypocrite who just thinks certain realms are better than others, or you've played on all of those realms, Ladder and Non-ladder and you still do. The latter is highly unlikely, considering the time it would take to get a godly/good dueling character going on all the realms except Asia's. Thus, you only choice is pretty much the former. In this case it should be clear that you should just stay quiet. Yes indeed, there is and have been a lot of duelers widely known in all other realms, such as Koda, mcm and luis.
Well, the point is that the wolfplayers did say that they can defeat barbarians. And Kiba clearly said that he gives most/all barbarians a run for their money, which would imply that he defeats most of them. This however either means that he is lying or overexaggerating or then the barbarians he duels suck. All of which are pretty not-so-good options. And morotsjos has already proved that even the top wolves cannot destroy barbarians by defeating Stoutewolf who is most likely the best wolf gear- and skillwise currently.
However, it is a fact that a wolf will slay a halfassed or unprepaired barbarian. I know this from dueling Stoutewolf and I got beaten. This is mostly due to the gear differences and the fact that I had never really dueled any wolves at all before that encounter except for some random fireclaws bears. This is due to the extreme rarity of wolves. Which again is due to the fact that they require a lot of wealth to build and lack teleport. Teleport is a thing that most PvPers won't play with. The only duelers that you see that have no teleport are wolves, MLD/LLD, BvBs, Zons, Zeal v Zealers and Smite v Smiters. Of course there are some hammerdins too, but those are rarer.
Can you tell me how someone can feel threatened in an Internet society where pictures, addresses, phonenumbers and names are hidden? Of course you can mean that they feel offended by the fact that some people are going against the common opinion. Personally I think both of these are good; the people who are player underhanded characters and show that those characters can be fun and decently effective and those people who feel offended by the fact that those people who play the underhanded characters start talking big. Both are totally normal. There's nothing bad in either, or at least I cannot see any bad in them. Can you? Of course there are people like morotsjos who will deny anything and everything that goes against of their very own, private and very abnormal opinion. However, if you bother to fight with such people for a long time, you are the fool, not him.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Debates are what make facts. However, pointless debates make nothing more but hatred and negativity. Please, be wise and stop with the pointless debate before it goes out of hand. Even though, it already has, looking at morotsjos and his being banned.
And no, I am not taking any sides here. I am not on the sides of the BvCs or the wolves. Yes by normal logic I should be defending the BvCs, but I do not want to be more involved than I already am.
Here comes the long rants of the 16 year old guru.
This is a valid point. And if you judge people by where and which they play, you are either a random hypocrite who just thinks certain realms are better than others, or you've played on all of those realms, Ladder and Non-ladder and you still do. The latter is highly unlikely, considering the time it would take to get a godly/good dueling character going on all the realms except Asia's. Thus, you only choice is pretty much the former. In this case it should be clear that you should just stay quiet. Yes indeed, there is and have been a lot of duelers widely known in all other realms, such as Koda, mcm and luis.
Well, the point is that the wolfplayers did say that they can defeat barbarians. And Kiba clearly said that he gives most/all barbarians a run for their money, which would imply that he defeats most of them. This however either means that he is lying or overexaggerating or then the barbarians he duels suck. All of which are pretty not-so-good options. And morotsjos has already proved that even the top wolves cannot destroy barbarians by defeating Stoutewolf who is most likely the best wolf gear- and skillwise currently.
However, it is a fact that a wolf will slay a halfassed or unprepaired barbarian. I know this from dueling Stoutewolf and I got beaten. This is mostly due to the gear differences and the fact that I had never really dueled any wolves at all before that encounter except for some random fireclaws bears. This is due to the extreme rarity of wolves. Which again is due to the fact that they require a lot of wealth to build and lack teleport. Teleport is a thing that most PvPers won't play with. The only duelers that you see that have no teleport are wolves, MLD/LLD, BvBs, Zons, Zeal v Zealers and Smite v Smiters. Of course there are some hammerdins too, but those are rarer.
Can you tell me how someone can feel threatened in an Internet society where pictures, addresses, phonenumbers and names are hidden? Of course you can mean that they feel offended by the fact that some people are going against the common opinion. Personally I think both of these are good; the people who are player underhanded characters and show that those characters can be fun and decently effective and those people who feel offended by the fact that those people who play the underhanded characters start talking big. Both are totally normal. There's nothing bad in either, or at least I cannot see any bad in them. Can you? Of course there are people like morotsjos who will deny anything and everything that goes against of their very own, private and very abnormal opinion. However, if you bother to fight with such people for a long time, you are the fool, not him.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Debates are what make facts. However, pointless debates make nothing more but hatred and negativity. Please, be wise and stop with the pointless debate before it goes out of hand. Even though, it already has, looking at morotsjos and his being banned.
And no, I am not taking any sides here. I am not on the sides of the BvCs or the wolves. Yes by normal logic I should be defending the BvCs, but I do not want to be more involved than I already am.
this seems like a lot of effort to go to for +1
Here comes the long rants of the 16 year old guru.
There goes the mr. I-refuse-to-read-anything-that-could-possibly-not-make-sense-to-me-because-I-thinks-I-am-equal-to-God-or-whatever-I-just-want-to-look-like-a-bigshot-by-talking-big-and-ignoring-everyone-else.
How about that?
Also, what the hell does one's age have to do with anything? Or are you referring that because I am the right age to play games, you who are more than likely to be older than 18 judging from your rather pointless and raged arguments, am not worthy of voicing my opinion or worthy of your time? If that's the case, then you should just return to your corner and think about any reasons for you to exist.
this seems like a lot of effort to go to for +1
It's not a +1. I consider a +1 to be an off-topic post that is both short and meaningless, such as "lol u sux. 10chars" for an example.
It's just my very own, personal opinion.
akumaxyz
07-12-2006, 06:31
That must mean moro isnt a serious pvp bvc since he didnt bother bein serious vs ink , and that also must mean there is no serious bvc's on west ladder errrr....... if any bvc on ladder west wants duel me with bvc and is ok too have it frapped message me or send me a pm.
*Lycan
i will duel you with friend's bvc on lad but you are not online now
i will duel you with friend's bvc on lad but you are not online now
Ill be on tommorow around 1:00pm pacific time.
If you dont think your freinds bvc is properly equiped or not ready then let me know because im lookin for a Good bvc too duel and frap the session not a " My bvc wasnt ready or sucked " exsuse.
Awroooooooo. =P
be the first too 5-0 Kiba in a youtube video , send me pm if interisted.
Ill be on tommorow around 1:00pm pacific time.
If you dont think your freinds bvc is properly equiped or not ready then let me know because im lookin for a Good bvc too duel and frap the session not a " My bvc wasnt ready or sucked " exsuse.
Awroooooooo. =P
be the first too 5-0 Kiba in a youtube video , send me pm if interisted.
I'll dool u too with my baba.
i want to be in on this.
i play west NL, my chars arnt the best, but i do good against alot of people, till i get BM'd or teamed..
*keyria
Not sure why this is a sticky. There is already a registry that is a sticky. Too much flame baiting in here. Time to let it go...
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