View Full Version : Character Class/Build to Beat Desynch Hammerdin?
TheRisingX
27-11-2006, 09:11
I've found that this is certainly by far the toughest class to beat... at least in pubby duels. Need some advice on beating them. Currently making a WW/LS Sin.
Your on the right path, stick to youre ww/ls hybrid :)
There's just 2 things you can do...
Use the terrain ( peddles etc)
Never stop moving.
moonlike
27-11-2006, 10:20
Your on the right path, stick to youre ww/ls hybrid :)
hammer abs u ,you are dead :P
hammer abs u ,you are dead :P
Its thats the case, I dont bother :)
I didnt quite get the fact that it were pubs, my bad.
morotsjos
27-11-2006, 10:49
I've found that this is certainly by far the toughest class to beat... at least in pubby duels. Need some advice on beating them. Currently making a WW/LS Sin.
druid no competition.
moonlike
27-11-2006, 10:50
druid no competition.
ofcourse wolf !
morotsjos
27-11-2006, 11:15
ofcourse wolf !
obviously ^^
or fireclaw bear!!!11 1-hit-kill omg!!111
wolfs with their other wolfs + reshifting over and over
Some guys have something too deep up their nose...
ps. L>NL
omg just see the kiba video, he runs and shift fury like a pro
Ele druid or bone nec
ps. L>NL
Lol'd
morotsjos
27-11-2006, 12:03
Some guys have something too deep up their nose...
ps. L>NL
we both know you're just mad cause ladder blows and wolves are horrible and you cant touch anyone half-decent at this game.
Im not mad at anything. Maybe i cant touch anyone decent, but my druid isnt fully geared yet. Couldnt care less if the ladder blows or not. Im not dueling to pown evry1.
Maybe wolves are horrible, but im proud of mine.
morotsjos
27-11-2006, 12:39
Im not mad at anything. Maybe i cant touch anyone decent, but my druid isnt fully geared yet. Couldnt care less if the ladder blows or not. Im not dueling to pown evry1.
Maybe wolves are horrible, but im proud of mine.
so now you change your mind and admit the possibility of ladder sucking total arse? thinking that a few pieces of gear change anything for a worthless class like shapers is just ignorant sorry.
Please dont admit that you took my L>NL seriously. Was trying to point out that pulling this "druids suck" topic into the third thread is just ridiculous. I could have written hammer>bvc.
edit: Having coa vs melee changes quite a bit. Maybe not a radical change but in these times where people rebuild because of one stat it must mean something
morotsjos
27-11-2006, 14:14
Please dont admit that you took my L>NL seriously. Was trying to point out that pulling this "druids suck" topic into the third thread is just ridiculous. I could have written hammer>bvc.
edit: Having coa vs melee changes quite a bit. Maybe not a radical change but in these times where people rebuild because of one stat it must mean something
i dont take anything you write seriously dont worry. i assume you mean coa on barb, no? most barbs use coa as default anyway.
druids dont suck btw. shapers do.
If you dont take anything seriously, but said that i changed my mind about ladder>non. Would need a quote and link where i say that.
morotsjos
27-11-2006, 14:19
If you dont take anything seriously, but said that i changed my mind about ladder>non. Would need a quote and link where i say that.
why lie?
Imbecile
27-11-2006, 14:47
why lie?
Because :"u noobs needa quit n get a life. Ill be playing WoW."
GG'd ;\
Lets get back to the topic :wink3:
druid no competition.
Ele druid (to be exact), no competition here imo.
*screeek*
Elmek sighting!
Hows youre connection now?
moonlike
27-11-2006, 15:10
*screeek*
Elmek sighting!
Hows youre connection now?
lol u want to duel vs him with hybrid sin buhaha totaly unfair duel imo XD
I do have a hammerdin if you want him to be in the advantage :)
Emperors
27-11-2006, 15:35
I do have a hammerdin if you want him to be in the advantage :)
a smart hammerdin can kill an ele druid GM , id say go with ele druid if you think you can take them..
if not that then
spammer necro
es sorc
hammerdin
ww barb (bvc) or whirling trapper hybrid..
And Windy.
me>bnet
GFG
moonlike
27-11-2006, 16:02
ww barb (bvc) or whirling trapper hybrid..
And Windy.
me>bnet
GFG
haha lag>u :P
I do have a hammerdin if you want him to be in the advantage :)
I'm not afraid of your sin Rab :wink3:
gogo ele. I'll duel your hammer with pleasure as well.
At the mement I do not have much time to play, you know, RL :cool:
My connection is 128 kb/s now (lol), so I can restrict myself only to chat in the channel I'm afraid.
Workin on upping it...
cheers
a smart hammerdin can kill an ele druid GM
Anything smart can kill anyone stupid. Most of these topics are meant equal-grounds I believe -.-
Romper Stomper
28-11-2006, 02:25
Properly built BVC, bone nec (especially with summons), wind druid, high AR ww/ghost sin. These all have a really good chance vs desync hams if played properly. I think a bone nec probably has the easiest time due to irresistability, much greater range, ability to kill a town runner, and protection with summons. 95% es fire sorc can do well too, but it will take 60+ fireballs to kill the typical barb buffing absorb+max ham that frequents USWest NL, at which point the ham will run to town before dying.
Yes Sir I Will
29-11-2006, 14:31
practice predicting desynch paths.
remember back in 09, aiming a screen ahead of a fleeing ama..
you'd be suprised what you can do. trap hybrid, right? this is one where you can't rely on your LS if you want to be offensive.
try like this
X-you Z-him T-Teleport
.................................................. ..............................omg hax!
.................................................. ...................................\
X- if you're here and he'sZ---->>..............................T- ww-*Z*->
(teleport about a full screen ahead in that direction)
he'll drop out of desynch when you connect.
oversimplified, but this is the concept that applies.
clip and bleed him till you can MB kill with shadow or whatever.
I'm not afraid of your sin Rab :wink3:
gogo ele. I'll duel your hammer with pleasure as well.
At the mement I do not have much time to play, you know, RL :cool:
My connection is 128 kb/s now (lol), so I can restrict myself only to chat in the channel I'm afraid.
Workin on upping it...
cheers
O, you should be scared. Very scared :)
Arbs isnt around so I'm the main sin around!
O, you should be scared. Very scared :)
Arbs isnt around so I'm the main sin around!
That's good to hear. Nothing like a good opponent :wink3:
Sins are annoying, very annoying for a windy :undecided: Meh, I can manage.
That's good to hear. Nothing like a good opponent :wink3:
Sins are annoying, very annoying for a windy :undecided: Meh, I can manage.
I know, + my traps actually hurt now :)
Arbedark
29-11-2006, 22:39
O, you should be scared. Very scared :)
Arbs isnt around so I'm the main sin around!
Maybe soon, maybe, just maybe...:rolleyes:
Edit: and anyway, you'd do better vs elmek than me, WW > Kick for Windys...kick = ZOMFG i get teh locked up! *crai*
Maybe soon, maybe, just maybe...:rolleyes:
Edit: and anyway, you'd do better vs elmek than me, WW > Kick for Windys...kick = ZOMFG i get teh locked up! *crai*
Ofc :)
And I do beter against..
Any melee, Most casters, Hammerdins. And no hammerdins arent casters :)
Arbedark
29-11-2006, 22:44
Ofc :)
And I do beter against..
Any melee, Most casters, Hammerdins. And no hammerdins arent casters :)
"most casters"
Lie more please, Kicks > WW vs sorcs, necro's, Fire druids etc. Only caster WW is better than kick vs is a Wind Druid due to the way Nado aims.
As for vs Hammerdins, it depends, If i teletalon then Kicks > WW due to the fact that you dont get hit when in the right spot.
WW means no nl for hammerdins. End of story.
Kick.. vs highly mobile caster a swift tele --> ww = priceless.
Arbedark
29-11-2006, 22:49
WW means no nl for hammerdins. End of story.
Kick.. vs highly mobile caster a swift tele --> ww = priceless.
Teletalon is > Telewhirl vs casters ('cept wind druid), Rabbi, don't argue that which you haven't tried...
And as I said, Kick / WW vs hammerdins depends, WW is better vs desynching ones though...
I have 1 point into dtalon for the random low fhr sorc. It might actually work and yes I havent tried it. But tele --> ww for a quick ow applies works like a charm.
Desyncing hammerdins, almost all?
Arbedark
30-11-2006, 19:02
I have 1 point into dtalon for the random low fhr sorc. It might actually work and yes I havent tried it. But tele --> ww for a quick ow applies works like a charm.
Desyncing hammerdins, almost all?
ACTUAL desynch, not "zomg i use teh charge i r teh leet desyncher!" style hammerdins.
And anyway Rabbi, you can't compare how effective 2 things are if you haven't used both and practiced with both to the same level. Using Tele-whirl for OW applying works, but the fact is tele-talon is much better vs sorcs, necros and non-windy ele druids.
And good Hammerdin vs Good sin is an uphill struggle for the sin anyway. Trying to apply OW via tele-whirl is a good way to get a hammer in the face vs a good one.
ACTUAL desynch, not "zomg i use teh charge i r teh leet desyncher!" style hammerdins.
And anyway Rabbi, you can't compare how effective 2 things are if you haven't used both and practiced with both to the same level. Using Tele-whirl for OW applying works, but the fact is tele-talon is much better vs sorcs, necros and non-windy ele druids.
And good Hammerdin vs Good sin is an uphill struggle for the sin anyway. Trying to apply OW via tele-whirl is a good way to get a hammer in the face vs a good one.
Vs desyncing hammerdin, I just use ww to avoid namelocks. Perhaps a swift tele ww in if the hammerdin screws up. My higher trap damage + mobility insures my ill win.
Dennis_KoreanGuy
02-12-2006, 14:10
Hmm long time ago, I faced speederlander's sin with a din. It wasn't too hard.
163% windy sure kills hdins easily
200% es fb sorcs too
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