Summon Resists-Hell

[taranny]

Haven't played for a long time and I wanted to know does the difficulty affect your skellies/golems resists, as the way I see it most creeps have about -40 resists even with a high level +s.

[Frosty_The_Snowman]

1 pt is usually enough in Summon Resist (with a decent amount of +skills), and YES you will find a big difference in your summons' survivability in hell.

[AnimeCraze]

From what I heard, summons do not get the -40/-100 penalty.

[SSoG]

Summons do not have their resistances reduced based on difficulty like Players and Mercs do. In fact, not only do summons not suffer from the -40/-100 penalty in higher difficulty levels, but summons ALSO don't have a maximum resistance cap. If you party up with a Salvation Paladin, all of your summons will become entirely elementally immune. It's pretty cool.

[taranny]

Summons do not have their resistances reduced based on difficulty like Players and Mercs do. In fact, not only do summons not suffer from the -40/-100 penalty in higher difficulty levels, but summons ALSO don't have a maximum resistance cap. If you party up with a Salvation Paladin, all of your summons will become entirely elementally immune. It's pretty cool.

thanks for the help dude, this cleared everything up nicely

[Luckymofo]

Summons do not have their resistances reduced based on difficulty like Players and Mercs do. In fact, not only do summons not suffer from the -40/-100 penalty in higher difficulty levels, but summons ALSO don't have a maximum resistance cap. If you party up with a Salvation Paladin, all of your summons will become entirely elementally immune. It's pretty cool.

Never tried that, and I can't atm because my comp died. all summons entirely immune to eles? not too sure about that...

[AnimeCraze]

Hm...... That got me thinking. Once your skeles are immune, does attempting to break it subject to the 1/5 penalty? Say for example. You got a bunch of salvationed skeles on meph, does his conviction work 1/5 effectiveness (and presumably will never break it, making them literally immortal vs meph).

[SSoG]

Never tried that, and I can't atm because my comp died. all summons entirely immune to eles? not too sure about that...
You might not be too sure about that, but I am. I've tested it for Druid pets, Spirits, Valks, Shadows, and Necro Summons. All of them become elementally immune.

If you have a Paladin with a slvl 12 Salvation and one point in Holy Bolt, you can check this for yourself. Party up with a Necro and point a holy bolt at his summons. They clearly display "Fire Immune, Lightning Immune, Cold Immune". I've tested and verified that the display is correct- they are absolutely tri-immune.

Furthermore, Druid Spirits are immune to Physical and Poison in Nightmare Difficulty. If you summon an Oak or HoW in Nightmare with a Salvation Paladin, that Oak will be immune to Fire/Lightning/Cold/Poison/Physical (vulnerable only to magic). Best tank in the game, although in Hell he loses his physical immunity and becomes remarkably mortal again.

A screenshot if you still don't believe me:
http://i11.tinypic.com/2wgzorc.jpg

Hm...... That got me thinking. Once your skeles are immune, does attempting to break it subject to the 1/5 penalty? Say for example. You got a bunch of salvationed skeles on meph, does his conviction work 1/5 effectiveness (and presumably will never break it, making them literally immortal vs meph).
Nope, Conviction and Lower Resist both operate at full effectiveness when breaking minion immunities, rather than the 1/5th effectiveness penalty they suffer against monsters.

I haven't tested Cold Mastery (the sorc skill) vs. elementally immune minions. It's possible that will break the immunity, too, but since I do all my testing in Single Player I haven't been able to check that yet.

[Esuna]

I am pretty sure that the summons resistance don't get deducted.