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smeer
20-09-2006, 14:14
What's the maximum poison damage you can get on a sc?
And is it worth re-roling a baal sc in order to get such a sc?

krischan
20-09-2006, 15:37
Charms can get poison damage from a prefix and from a suffix. The highest damage prefix is "pestilent" with 175 damage over 6 seconds and the highest damage suffix is "of antrax" with 50 poison damage over 6 seconds, so the highest damage sc obviously is a pestilent sc of anthrax. In combination, the charm deals the sum of damage per unit of time over the sum of the durations, i.e. 175/6+50/6 = 37.5 damage per second over 6+6 = 12 seconds, i.e. a total of 450 damage over 12 seconds. The game actually calculates this on a per frame base, so rounding leads to slightly different amounts - IIRC it's 451.

BTW, only Diablo, Nihlathak and Baal can drop these SCs respectively only SCs from them can be rerolled into a 451 pdscs.

k/t
21-09-2006, 22:50
Where "dum" = "sum".

krischan
21-09-2006, 23:42
OK, I fixed it :azn:

Dad Daniel
23-09-2006, 06:56
Aren't the 313 psn damage scs the highest possible one's?
:azn:

helvete
23-09-2006, 15:27
Nope. 451 ones are.

Personally, I use either casters or fast hitting chars, so I never really valued poison charms high at all. Duration on these charms are like forever.

Calizzar
23-09-2006, 16:28
well, if you have 25 of the 451/12 psn charms, thats 939 psn damage per second for 12 seconds. now, most people in duels will have 75% poison resistance.

So this is what ive always wondered. Say i have a double throw barb and i have 25 451/12s in my inventory. I throw at my opponent and score a hit, then switch to dual death webs. Will this help?

tinncann25
24-09-2006, 17:39
the psn resistance is applied to each second of psn damage not all 12 seconds

also i dont think that would be very affective at all

you will have 11275/12 seconds which is
940 roughly per second,
pvp reduces that to 157,
then 75 resistance makes that 39 damage a second
then there is -psn duration reducing the damage farther

OW works a lot better for barbs than psn damage

Calizzar
24-09-2006, 23:22
Well if im wearing bramble and trangs gloves (someone on another part of this forum told me this works with charms) and 37 451/12s, the damage output is:

451 * 37 = 16687 (37 charms)
16687 * 1.67 = 27867 (bramble and trangs gloves)
27867 / 12 = 2322 damage per second
2322 * .17 = 394 (pvp penalty)
If opponent has 75 poison res, and i switch to dual 5/5 facet'd dwebs:
394 * 1.35 = 531 poison damage per second

not that bad

whereas open wounds if i'm level 85 is:

((45 * 90 - 1319) / 256) * .125 * 25 * 8 = 266 damage over 8 seconds

531 psn dmg over 1 second
266 OW damage over 8 seconds

... hmmm. I'm liking that poison damage more.

If im dueling a character with 4000 life, i can just hit once and in 7.5 seconds they'll be dead. So i can just use hit and run tactics.

tigger
08-01-2007, 22:41
wat does reroling mean? can some1 xplain this 2 me

jakotaco
08-01-2007, 23:00
Don't forget about negative (-100%) poison length reduction in hell! Making that double the duration and dmg.

Evrae Altana
08-01-2007, 23:05
wat does reroling mean? can some1 xplain this 2 meThey are referring to using the cube recipe (3 PGems + magic item) in order to change the mods on charms.

Mim
09-01-2007, 05:40
what exactly are the penalties applied when pvping?

Verashiden
11-01-2007, 22:50
PvP penalty is 1/6 of the damage you would deal before resistances come into play.

As for other penalties:

Leech is severely penalized

Iron Maiden/Thorns/etc. are penalized

I think that's about it.