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I am making a rabies/fury druid and his rabies does nothing against monsters. The only thing that damages the monsters is his physical dmg. Right now, rabies is at lvl 23 and poison creeper is at 23 too. What is so good about rabies? Does zero damage. I can even kill PI. Does my druid have to rely on a merc?
I am making a rabies/fury druid and his rabies does nothing against monsters. The only thing that damages the monsters is his physical dmg. Right now, rabies is at lvl 23 and poison creeper is at 23 too. What is so good about rabies? Does zero damage. I can even kill PI. Does my druid have to rely on a merc?
Refer to stoutewolf's guide for how rabies really work..
Rabies is mostly used for pking..
so it does nothing in pvm. How is my druid suppose to deal with PI's. I thought that the venom on the grief would apply the poison dmg immediately. Seems to do nothing.
so it does nothing in pvm. How is my druid suppose to deal with PI's. I thought that the venom on the grief would apply the poison dmg immediately. Seems to do nothing.
Hmm my druid has no problem to deal with PI.. Open wound crushing blow..
Plus, your rabies is only level 23. I'm going to go ahead and assume that you've maxed both it and poison creeper? Try getting a jalal's mane, that might help somewhat.
BabyLink
10-09-2006, 18:28
Refer to stoutewolf's guide for how rabies really work..
Rabies is mostly used for pking..
Thx for the advice, i'm having the same problem in solo play...
both are being maxed. This really sucks. I was going to use this druid for pvp and key running but i guess that is not possible. My meteorb sorc is so damned frail for nith runs due to the zero max block. Should have not listed to the idiots who said an all vita sorc is better. It is not!
Maybe i should trade all my sorc gear for hammerdin stuff. Just starting a new char from scratch is going to suck
Hmm my druid has no problem to deal with PI.. Open wound crushing blow..
Crushing blow does nothing to PI.
so this fury/rabies is totally dependant on a merc in hell? Thats great.... I might just ditch this build and go for a wind druid. my rabies damage is around 6k but i dont see it doing anything. I even use a grief pb and i cant do **** against PI.
superjayson
10-09-2006, 22:47
rabies isnt that affective in pvm, but your damage is really bad for you to even give it proper judgement.
Clay bizzle
10-09-2006, 22:51
From what I have heard from some and disputed by others is that the Venom from Grief ruins Rabies damage.
Bulgarian
10-09-2006, 23:41
so this fury/rabies is totally dependant on a merc in hell? Thats great.... I might just ditch this build and go for a wind druid. my rabies damage is around 6k but i dont see it doing anything. I even use a grief pb and i cant do **** against PI.
cant you get rabies damage up to 30k?
30k requires quite some twinking i think. But i doubt hes wearing any trang gloves, or even have those on switch. Those would help.
i have trangs gloves. Gear is as follows. Still need dtorch, skillers, and highlords.
Jaljals, grief pb, enigma, gores, dungos, ravenfrost. Still cant use SS due to lack of stre.
can someone post a link to the information about rabies in pvm?
IMCanadian
11-09-2006, 02:25
Hmm if I may say a few things. For starters, My rabies is at lvl 36 or 37 doing near 20k (without poison % gear), and thats still bad. Rabies can get to about 40k or more iirc. For me I rabie them twice and the use fury, the combination of fury/and rabies on packs rapes them. I also use fury as my main skill for killing ubers.
Next, rabies is a hell of alot better PvP, fury does nothin to barbs, but I can slaughter them if I rabie and run.
Also, grief's venom I do believe ruins rabies damage, as it ruins damage from poison charms.
And if your going to come in here shooting down Shifters, saying they suck before you really know what your talking about your in for a suprise. There are alot of ppl around here who appreciate the build and would be angry at your insults to it.
Finally, your making yourself sound like a power hunger, leet searching noob by saying you want to trade gear for a windy or a hammerdin. Research before you build, and you usually have to build a character more then once to perfect it.
On a side note, the main focus of a meteorb would be max block for standing there and tanking, I didnt know there was such thing as a vita sorch, since vita return sux. My was nearly naked, wearing on tals set, and pwnd hell.
Why dont you try your wolf again, take a look at some guides, post some help threads (sorta like this I guess), then come back and see if you still hate wolves. Good luck.
IMC :grin:
so i should be using an ebotd zerker? why is grief even mentioned in stoutwolf's guide then? So deceiving. This sucks considering the ebotd is going to take a while to get
IMCanadian
11-09-2006, 05:13
Grief isnt horrible...yet some ppl dispute that. There are many choices for weapons, and upped shaeld ribcracker is a great weapon. It's all about testing and such. IMO, ebotd>grief. Test some stuff out. Use ias calculators. Your looking for 5fpa or 4fpa fury. This means ur second-5th attks in ur 5 in a row atks. Just test and see wut works for you, I like ebotdz personally.
IMC :grin:
sunflowersmooth
11-09-2006, 05:13
so i should be using an ebotd zerker? why is grief even mentioned in stoutwolf's guide then? So deceiving. This sucks considering the ebotd is going to take a while to get
Can you stop saying "this sucks"? Complaining isn't going to help much. Understandably the game can be fustrating sometimes, but you're ruining the integrity of the forum.
im just wondering why stoutewolf put grief as a wep choice in his guide, considering that grief ruins rabies dmg. I dont understand.
Im in a dillema right now because now i realize that i need an ebotd but that is going to cost me 10hr or more and i probably can only get 3 hr for my grief.
i see that getting wealthy quickly is doing key runs but my meteorb is not up to the job thanks to those vipers. Now i hear that even hammerdins get slaughthered in there despite dr and res. Blizz should do something about the ridiculous dmg that those vipers do. Then solving my druid problem would be alot easier
sunflowersmooth
11-09-2006, 05:44
Are you playing on the europe realm?
Loki Mundane
11-09-2006, 06:10
Im a level 50 fury/rabies buiild with some okish gear and I can usually beat
pally's 5 to 6 levels ahead of me my rabies is at 23 my poison creeper is 19...my fury is now at 10 and I use (right now) the druid shape shifter mace and a tiamats rebuke shield. I haven't really had a problem in nm ( haven't made it to hell yet) but I did notice that the amount of psn damage from normal to nightmare dropped significantly..I can only imagine what it does in hell.
I think the real saver in hell is the amount of life leech and the ias play around with combinations until you find one that works. I really like Hsarasus armor and radamants shield when im doing as it usually gets replies of "hacker" and "noob" when I own people in pvp. :)
i just dont like the PI in hell. My druid cant do crap against them.
sunflowersmooth
11-09-2006, 06:47
i just dont like the PI in hell. My druid cant do crap against them.
You think an ebotd costs 10 hrs on USeast ladder? That is way too exspensive. It shouldn't cost too much more than your grief depending on the mods that you have and that you are looking for. 10 highrunes is just absurd.
Welcome to the wild, wild world of Wolves!
For getting rid of the PIs consider weapons that do massive elemental (glimmershreds are cheap!, Baranar's Star, Demon Limb, etc. etc. etc.) or have the ability to negate the PI (Lacerator Axe or Reaper's Toll, etc. etc.).
I'm a PvM Party Wolf who is a hybrid Fury / Summoner using a 1h weapon + SS. I love running the Necro b/c I can run through the CE and smash the sucker with a fury/feral rush. Yes, having massive hit points makes life so much more better. Also being able to leech and eat corpses for health (Carrion Vine) helps quite a bit. I hate running the summoner b/c you can't teleport while wearing fur. Running the countess is ok b/c you get runes along with the possibility of the KoT. Right now I'm having a blast with a slow but fun weapon called the Schaefer's Hammer. It's got a crazy CTC static field and got other mods that are fun for werewolves.
Hope you have as much fun with your wolf as I'm having with mine!
good luck and good hunting!! (growf!)
Kirah
Valvolux
11-09-2006, 08:37
Firstly Venom from 'Grief' doesn't reduce Rabies damage at all, second 6k rabies isn't enough to base anything on. 60k Rabies clears hell no worries.
so who is right? grief does not ruin rabies dmg or not?Im confused.
Also, anothre dillema. I need to max 5 things. lyco, fury, rabies, poison vine, and oak sage. thie requires a whopping 100 points and there is not way to get that till my druid is in the 90s. Problem is that it is very hard to lvl after lvl 85. Should i max my combat skills first, then oak sage?
hve you ever tryed to put Atma's scarab in your amulet slot. my wolf use that instead of hightlord for baal running.
IMCanadian
11-09-2006, 18:27
Valvo is a vet, but I still think grief ruins poison. Maybe it doesn't, I havent used enough to tell ya yes for sure. My main problem with grief is that I never hit.
But I'll tell you one thing, 10 hr for ebotdz is a lie. I have just traded for one, 385 ed and 15 LL, so it doesnt suck and it cost me 2bo cta, 31 res hoto and a 93% edef arach. And, I just made a Ebotd GPA for 3hr. Traded one for the 6os eGPA and two into the rw. It has 400% ed.
Like I said, there are other options. Upped ribcracker shaeld, shael stormlash, eth oath cryptic swoard, ccsoq 3os (hahahaha), the list goes on, test some stuff.
IMC :grin:
ToThePoint
11-09-2006, 19:00
rabies and venom are fine
Valvolux
12-09-2006, 10:40
Valvo is a vet, but I still think grief ruins poison. Maybe it doesn't, I havent used enough to tell ya yes for sure.
Tested and proven to work fine, as TTP has also said.
IMCanadian
12-09-2006, 14:07
It does ruin any poison dmg from charms that are added to either your fury or your rabies dmg from inital bite thought right?
IMC :grin:
lordofericstan
13-09-2006, 12:33
It does ruin any poison dmg from charms that are added to either your fury or your rabies dmg from inital bite thought right?
IMC :grin:
for fury yes, and thats because the game averages psn per sec. venom is extremely short and that screws with charms. rabies is a preset time and venom doesnt slow it so about psn charms and rabies, i think there may be a rabies psn dmg and then a normal attack psn dmg. if so venom would definitely screw with the normal attack psn dmg but i havent heard of any testing to confirm this.
Bladewind
13-09-2006, 12:46
i just dont like the PI in hell. My druid cant do crap against them.
Quit whining about them already ! Every class HAS immunity problems aside from Hammerdin of Doom. Sorcs by far have the biggest problems in certain areas of the game and they are not complaining. There is far less PI than other elemental immunities, just use a gimmershred or something. By the way, 6k rabies is low, the average is like 30k...
skorpiostouch
18-09-2006, 19:47
both are being maxed. This really sucks. I was going to use this druid for pvp and key running but i guess that is not possible. My meteorb sorc is so damned frail for nith runs due to the zero max block. Should have not listed to the idiots who said an all vita sorc is better. It is not!
Maybe i should trade all my sorc gear for hammerdin stuff. Just starting a new char from scratch is going to suck
your shifter sucks. your sorc sucks. i bet your hdin is gonna suck too, your problem seems to be you dont have a clue how to build a good char of any class. dont worry, 90% of d2 players are in the same situation as you are. ill give you one advice: choose a class you REALLY like, and do extensive research about it, builds, gear, and everything involved around that class. then go experiment by making your own chars. your first ones will ALWAYS suck. you will learn from your mistakes. after 2 or 3 attempts, you will start to have a real clue about what youre doing. read all guides you find over the web, and try to difference the good ones from the crapppy ones. it just take some common sense and a lot of dedication and time. after all, you wanna be good, dont you?
skorpiostouch
18-09-2006, 19:59
so this fury/rabies is totally dependant on a merc in hell? Thats great.... I might just ditch this build and go for a wind druid. my rabies damage is around 6k but i dont see it doing anything. I even use a grief pb and i cant do **** against PI.
LOL now you are going for a windy... make up your mind man, decide what you wanna make and start experimenting!!!! and, agisnt PIs, all that can help you is a good rabies setup, which you obviously dont have yet. understand how the char works man.
naturebunns
18-09-2006, 20:08
Rabies druids own pvm (cept psn immunes)
high damage rabies clears congested monster areas like no one's buisness
what other skill can you hit 1 monster with and kill an entire pack with it
and fury with an ebodt zerker will take care of the poison immunes
there aren't a ton of psn AND physical immunes
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