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conor rocks
10-09-2006, 12:36
How much fcr should they have and what gear?
How much fcr should they have and what gear?
125% fcr for maximum efficency,
Gear however is reletively open and can depend on what chars ur facing, although here are some common setups;
Shako Ber/rare circlet or coronet 2 pala 20% fcr + other mods
Pala spirit, sacred targe or sacred Rondache/Zaka
hoto/Wizzy spike
trang/mages
archnid mesh belt
water walks/sands
pala fcr amu/maras
fcr rings/soj/BK
Enigma
Most use Spirit route due to it helps reaching the 125% fcr breakpoint much easie, despite the lack of 2 combat skills u lose, but u also gain fhr, good res, mana and a little life from using this shield.
Shako again is a common helm due to the high dr, u can get from it, the mana and res mods, although these are not able to be affected by bo but still offer alot of stats + 2 skills and minnion 2 all stats.
A nice circlet at times can be supperior if its a good one giving 2 skills 20% fcr life + mana mods and other usefull stats like all res and possible str + dex.
Wizzy is a good weap to use as it gives u the huge stack potential as well the high mana mods + the 50% fcr, Hoto is also nice offering the res, dex and 3+ skill at 40% fcr. Some use spirit swords but i only recomend these if ur getting atleast 30-35% fcr ideally perfect fcr as this will save the need for getting other items to replace the lost fcr.
Most of the other items are adjustable, i.e depending on ur setup and amount of fcr ur gear has ur rings are pretty flexable and amu as well.
Charm wise most use 4 pcs with hp, and 7 scs with fhr depending on boots, combined with the spirit can get u to 86% fhr if needed, which i think is rarely needed apart for vs trappers or u could switching bloodfist when needed and fcr rings + amu for thatn needed bp.
Also modt of the charms used are high res stacking type charms like life/all res or life/10-11 res vs 1 element.
conor rocks
10-09-2006, 13:51
Oh yea and left click=charge and right click=hammers and vigor?
charge and hammer on left click. Concentration, vigor and teleport on right click.
conor rocks
10-09-2006, 22:50
How left click hammers? You can't hotkey that...nevermind just realized you could.
I'm not exactly an expert at this, but to desync well do long charges (across the whole screen in 1 charge) at a random fashion.
mainaman
11-09-2006, 03:10
dont even need ful screen
just chrge cast 2-3 hammers charge alil cast 2-3 hammer and so on
this desynchs you and your hammers and represents an easy and cheap (no need almost no skill) way to win duels.
A=charge
S=vigor
Z=hammer
X=conc
Hit AS, charge at least half a screen, hit ZX, repeat, etc. holding down the left mouse button the whole time
Dennis_KoreanGuy
12-09-2006, 00:56
A Crown of Ages is a much better choice than a shako or a priest's fcr circlet.
conor rocks
12-09-2006, 01:06
I heard it wasn't because you loose points in vita and life from shako...
Dennis_KoreanGuy
12-09-2006, 01:22
I heard it wasn't because you loose points in vita and life from shako...
FHR/DR/Res...
conor rocks
12-09-2006, 02:27
But then you can't have base strenght.
fugitive alien2
12-09-2006, 02:57
life has always been overrated in pvp compared to ability to inflict or avoid damage.
life has always been overrated in pvp compared to ability to inflict or avoid damage.
Agree 110%. Base str is overrated. Think about this: CoA gives 30 fhr, which translates into 6x 5 FHR SCs, which take the place of 6x 20 lifers, ~200 life after BO, as opposed to shako's 135 non-BOable
conor rocks
12-09-2006, 06:56
Whats least damage I should be doing?
Dennis_KoreanGuy
13-09-2006, 02:13
10+k hammers at the least. I favor 11~12 usually, with 2~3 pcombats. 10+ will have no problem killing anything except some barbs, windies, es sorcs.
btw as jmsplat said, keep obvious skills close together, like hammer/conc and charge vigor. Also it helps if it is closer to the shift button. (A/S/Z/X)
conor rocks
13-09-2006, 02:25
Yea atm i'm doing 11k-11k without pcombats.
Dennis_KoreanGuy
13-09-2006, 02:30
To clarify things, make sure you stack 200+ total all res.
Try your best to squeeze in a dungoes over spider, maybe switch out mara's or something. CoA + Enigma + Dungoes should net you max dr unless you get crap dungoes and coa.
Max DR isn't necessary on a pure Hdin for your main switch, just be able to get 45+ DR and at least 75 FCR for wind druids. Also carry a hel (or um if you have the dex) widow in stash for BvCs and other Hdins. 200 all res is overkill; aim for 105 all res in hell to account for the anya glitch, and carry a 200+ cold and light res pally shield in stash.
Dennis_KoreanGuy
13-09-2006, 04:24
Max DR isn't necessary on a pure Hdin for your main switch, just be able to get 45+ DR and at least 75 FCR for wind druids. Also carry a hel (or um if you have the dex) widow in stash for BvCs and other Hdins. 200 all res is overkill; aim for 105 all res in hell to account for the anya glitch, and carry a 200+ cold and light res pally shield in stash.
That's what I meant. 200+ all. as in 100 in hell. Though I would get mine atleast 250+. -.-
I find 200+ LR/CR Shields to be useless, because most elemental users are casters and to catch them you need the fcr from the spirit most of the times.
Just be sure your gear is flexible enough to wear atleast a wisp without losing any fcr when needed.
conor rocks
13-09-2006, 04:27
Wait whats the reciepe for socketing weapons?
Dennis_KoreanGuy
13-09-2006, 04:53
Wait whats the reciepe for socketing weapons?
??? You mean cubing it so it gets randon number of sockets?
Ral / Amn / PAmethyst / weapon
That's what I meant. 200+ all. as in 100 in hell. Though I would get mine atleast 250+. -.-
I find 200+ LR/CR Shields to be useless, because most elemental users are casters and to catch them you need the fcr from the spirit most of the times.
Just be sure your gear is flexible enough to wear atleast a wisp without losing any fcr when needed.
200 cold shield --> blizz sorc, which you shouldn't chase because that results in death
200 light shield --> foh pally, which you should charge with a grief. 75 fcr should be enough to telestomp these if they aren't charging
conor rocks
13-09-2006, 06:23
Man I kind of feel like making a mage now, Dennis don't you have one?
Noo don't go to the dark side by making a mage :D
Libby ftw ^_^
conor rocks
13-09-2006, 06:38
Libby Foh/smite?
Foh/smite is a t/v. Libby is charge/hammer/freqently smite too
conor rocks
13-09-2006, 06:46
Mage seems cheaper for some reason probally because I have almost everything already.
Yea I guess but "Liberator" sounds so much cooler than "mage" lol
conor rocks
13-09-2006, 06:52
I hate charge though and it doesn't seem as anti smiter as mage does.
I hate charge though and it doesn't seem as anti smiter as mage does.
Charge is godly, i charge so many things with my lvl 1 charge, lvl1 fanat, and grief on my pure hammerdin.
And hammers are all the anti smite you need.
trust me go mage u wot regret forget jmsplat with his libby lol :grin:
Dennis_KoreanGuy
14-09-2006, 03:50
Mage is my favourite build of the game. But I'm sure I'll like a Libby equal as much once I make one nl.
They're both extremely versatile.
If there's one similar build I just find weird, is V/T. Lol.
conor rocks
14-09-2006, 08:54
Dennis what gear and charms do you use for your mage?
lordofericstan
14-09-2006, 11:18
wtf, i asked a question about frw desynching and some mod shut it down for asking how to "exploit a bug in the game" so why is this thread ok?????????
They are rite Libby or mage will work well.
Most mages use 9 pcs with life etc as u will need 9 pcs to make up the dmg in both areas, i,e the foh + hammer. And u obviously have ur standard torch + anni and rest ideally is scs with life/all res or life/res scs.
@ ordofericstan How did u phrase ur question?
Because Desync i don't really find to be such a bug as it more like a lag type move where the server cannot keep up with ur movements so u appear somewhere on other's screen when ur not even there.
fugitive alien2
14-09-2006, 22:51
Foh/smite is a t/v. Libby is charge/hammer/freqently smite too
the original meaning of liberator when it evolved in 1.09 around 4-5 years ago was charge/hammer/foh - a mage with a high-damage charge switch.
there was another specific name that was used for charge/hammer/smite builds that i don't recall atm.
wtf, i asked a question about frw desynching and some mod shut it down for asking how to "exploit a bug in the game" so why is this thread ok?????????
How is it a bug? It's more like abusing the lag between comp to server.. wow. I read the post you're talking about BTW, I'm still sorta laughing.
blobswannabe
15-09-2006, 00:34
the original meaning of liberator when it evolved in 1.09 around 4-5 years ago was charge/hammer/foh - a mage with a high-damage charge switch.
there was another specific name that was used for charge/hammer/smite builds that i don't recall atm.
so are you palying d2 again or what.
the original meaning of liberator when it evolved in 1.09 around 4-5 years ago was charge/hammer/foh - a mage with a high-damage charge switch.
there was another specific name that was used for charge/hammer/smite builds that i don't recall atm.
Vanquisher. And the new definition of a libby is charge/hammer
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