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dreamofwinter
24-08-2006, 17:11
DreamOfWinter is my lvl 91 blizz/melee hybrid sorc for soloing uber trist. Sorry that the files are so large, it takes quite a bit longer than with a smiter.
Video captures for mini-bosses, and uber-trist-- (the first minutes are trimmed, where mephy is lured away from baal and diablo)
http://rapidshare.de/files/30561240/winter-izual.avi.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/30561835/winter-duriel.avi.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/30563448/winter-lilith.avi.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/30566603/winter-trist.avi.html
I'm curious as to what non-cookie cutter builds people have come up with that can solo uber trist.
Congratulations! Great proof of concept. You obviously had this whole thing planned out very well. Makes doing Trist with my necro summoner look easy in comparison :thumbsup: (link edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1tPFaNJDZI)
Very very impressive! From what people have told me, Uber tristram is difficult without a smiter. Once again, very impressive.
melianor
25-08-2006, 07:32
Skillsetup, stats and items used please. What is that fire protuding from your Sorc? *sceptical look*
obiwansbane
25-08-2006, 08:04
aw i gotta dl it and im too lazy... could u plz like youtube it or something? plz plz plz pretty plz?
Skillsetup, stats and items used please. What is that fire protuding from your Sorc? *sceptical look*
Yeah, I'd also like to know your setup!
obiwansbane
26-08-2006, 07:11
lol dreams 1 and only post... so no feedback?
melianor
26-08-2006, 07:12
lol dreams 1 and only post... so no feedback?
Well i would like to see facts before i shout hooray for the sorceress..... otherwise i will simply ditch this thread.
dreamofwinter
27-08-2006, 00:48
Skillsetup, stats and items used please. What is that fire protuding from your Sorc? *sceptical look*
Hellfire Torch
Req Level: 75
25% Chance to cast level 10 Firestorm on striking
+3 all Sorceress Skills
+18 All Attributes
+12 All Resists
The fire is from hitting stuff in melee (a rare site for a Sorceress!) -- the 25% chance to cast level 10 Firestorm on striking.
dreamofwinter
27-08-2006, 01:23
Well i would like to see facts before i shout hooray for the sorceress..... otherwise i will simply ditch this thread.
Here goes-- the v0.99 guide to Soloing Uber Trist with Sorceress-- :tongue:
It looks like there are some skeptics despite the video, so I'll go ahead and post the gory details about the build, the equipment, and the strategies involved.
I hadn't played Diablo2 since early v1.09, but I decided to break out the old crack pipe again this summer. :smiley: Sorcs have always been my favorite character, but one thing that bothered me was that it seemed Sorcs were unable to complete the ultimate challenge in v1.11 -- soloing Uber Tristram. Nevermind that only a handful of builds were of any use at all in Uber Trist (smiters, elite melee builds, and now thanks to FooSoft's incredibly inspiring demo, summoning necros.)
It became my mission to figure out how to solo Ubers with a sorceress, and after about a month of trying out builds and getting the equipment I would need, and reading this forum a *LOT*, I realized that you could probably do it with a hybrid melee / caster sorc. I originally went with fireball/meteor/orb/melee. That was cool since I could kill in all three elements, but one drawback was that you couldn't exactly spam fireballs and hack at things at the same time. :embarassed:
Blizzard turns out to be the ideal spell for a melee / caster sorc, because it's timered, so you can't spam it. Isn't that a bad thing, you might ask? Well no-- because it conserves mana, so you do not have to raise your mana from base, and you will not need very much faster cast rate equipment, and most importantly, you can hack at things during the blizzard casting delay.
To be effective in melee, you need two things:
1) Survival -- i.e., as much +life, +FHR, +damage reduction as you can find
2) Damage -- max lightning mastery and put on two Dream runewords --> 40k+ lightning damage per melee hit. With an Infinity merc, this will usually kill any non-lightning immune in one hit.
Here's the complete setup, which turned out to be quite an exercise in finding the best compromises:
***** Skills:
DreamOfWinter (kommi97 on US East Ladder)
Lvl 91 blizz / dualdream hybrid sorc (102 skill pts)
20 lightning mastery (to augment Dream damage)
1 telekinesis
1 teleport
1 static field
1 enchant (for attack rating)
1 warmth
1 firebolt
1 fireball
1 fire mastery
1 frozen armor (for defense)
10 ice bolt (blizzard synergy)
7 ice blast (blizzard synergy)
20 glacial spike (blizzard synergy)
1 frost nova
20 blizzard (main spell attack)
15 cold mastery (you need high cold mastery to kill Mephisto, since you will not have any way of lowering his 75% Cold Resistance. Your merc's Infinity will be canceled by his, since his is higher level, and you cannot switch to a Lower Resist wand -- more on that later. If you don't want to do Uber Trist with this kind of setup, just put those points into Blizz synergies, since with an Infinity merc most monsters will be at -100% Cold Resistance even with just 1 point in cold mastery.)
***** Stats:
Str and Dex are min to put on equipment--
Str req 156 for spirit monarch --
20 str from Chains of Honor
5 str from Maras
17 str from Anni
18 str from Hellfire Torch
20 str from Marrowwalks
Base str = 81+ 80 -> 161 (because sometimes I need to switch Maras/Metalgrid)
Dex req 136 for passion / eternity / call to arms phase blade --
5 dex from Maras
17 dex from Anni
18 dex from Hellfire Torch
17 dex from Marrowwalks
20 dex from Ravenfrost
Base dex = 64 + 77 -> 141 (again, to switch between Maras/Metalgrid)
Energy -- base (you will get enough from Dream, Spirit, and just levelling bonus for Sorceress)
Vitality -- all the rest (around 400)
After meleeing Diablo and Baal, and before fighting Mephisto, I actually go to the stash and exchange all of my melee equipment for caster equipment, so you can see it for yourself if you just pause the video. However, here is the list: (I only listed stats that are variable / of interest)
***** Melee setup for fighting Diablo/Baal/Izual/Duriel:
Chains of Honor (Dusk Shroud), +65 all resists, +20 str, +200% damage to demons (this is critical -- you must increase your physical damage for effective leeching)
Metalgrid Amulet, +32 all resists, +420 attack rating, +340 defense
Ravenfrost Rings x2 (20 dex, 200+ attack rating)
Dream (Tiara), +9 all resists, +30 faster hit recovery, +15 Holy Shock Aura
Verdungo's Hearty Coil Belt, +15 damage reduction, +35 vitality
Dracul's Grasp Gloves, +15 strength, 9% life leech, +9 life after kill
Marrowwalks Boots, +20 str, +1 skeleton mastery, +17 dexterity
Weapon/Shield: (primary)
Passion (Phase Blade), +79% bonus to attack rating, +196% ED, +1 Zeal
Dream (Blade Barrier) +20 all resists, +28 faster hit recovery, +15 Holy Shock Aura
Note that vs. Izual and Duriel (which are a lot less dangerous), I used a Stormshield socketed with a perfect diamond for damage reduction. Normally I use stormshield on Hell difficulty when I run host Baal runs or run Nihlathak (just tele straight at him and whack him if he's cold immune, blizz him otherwise, then melee the cold-immune minions), because dying at lvl 90+ means losing a LOT of xp, and the lightning damage from just the Dream helm will kill in 1 or 2 hits anyway.
Weapon/Shield: (switch, for battle orders prebuffing)
Call to Arms (Phase Blade), +5 battle command, +5 battle orders, +4 battle cry
Spirit (Monarch), +35 faster cast rate
Charms:
Sorceress Hellfire Torch 18 stats / 12 res (this has a 25% procing Firestorm on striking)
Annihilus 17/17/5
Cold GC with 25 life
Cold GC with 27 life
Cold GC with 19 life
The remainder is filled with a bunch of Resist All (making +44% resist all) charms for surviving Mephisto's Conviction Aura, and 20 to life small charms. One of the 20 to life small charms also has the Toxic mod, so it inflicts poison damage (along with Open Wounds, important for stopping uber regeneration.)
Resists: -100 in hell, -125 due to Mephisto's conviction aura
+65 Resist All from Chains of Honor
+27 Resist All from Mara's Kaleidoscope
+29 Resist All from Annihilus and Hellfire Torch
+85 Resist All from Um'd Kira's Guardian
+20 Resist All from Dream shield
+44 Resist All from charms
+30 Resist All from 3x Anya Quests
Total: 65+27+29+85+20+44+30 - 225 = 75
For normal adventuring, you will wear Dream instead of Kiras as a helm, and you will not need to carry any of these resist charms around.
***** Mercenary Set-up
Act2 Mercenary (Holy Freeze Aura)
Helm -- Vampire Gaze (for life leech & damage reduction)
Armor -- Ethereal Chains of Honor Wyrmhide (+20 str, +65 all resists, 8% life leech)
Helm -- Vampire Gaze (for life leech & damage reduction)
Armor -- Ethereal Chains of Honor Wyrmhide (+20 str, +65 all resists, 8% life leech)
Weapon -- Ethereal Colossus Voulge Infinity (lvl 12 conviction aura, tons of physical damage. There is no choice in this, because Conviction not only reduces enemy resists -- making your lightning melee attack kill them in 1 or 2 hits -- but it reduces their defense by an insane amount. This often overlooked property of Conviction allows you to hit pretty much any monster including bosses automatically, even with a mediocre attack rating.)
As you can see, the strategy is to static the opponent down to 50% health, lifetap them (either with Dracs, or with a charge on your Marrowwalks if the Dracs just doesn't proc in time), and blizzard & melee to death. The blizzard does tons of damage, and the lightning damage from the dreams does even more. With the passion phase blade and the chains of honor (+200% damage to demons), and your opponent Life Tapped, you will do about 800 Physical damage per hit, which is just enough to leech back enough life to survive. So that's the story with Izual/Duriel/Baal/Diablo. Also, you should have a source of poison, such as a small charm in your inventory. That along with Open Wounds will stop the uber regeneration.
It turns out that with this melee setup, you cannot melee Mephisto or Lilith -- they just do too much damage and you cannot leech back life fast enough to stay alive. Moreover, meleeing Mephisto is a pretty bad idea since he is lightning immune and your physical damage is near negligible.
***** Caster/Summons setup for fighting Lilith/Mephisto:
Here are the following changes:
1) Swap out Metalgrid for Mara's Kaleidoscope Amulet (+27 all resists, +5 all stats, +2 all skills)
2) Swap out 1 Ravenfrost for Bul-Kathos Ring (+1 skills, +45 life)
3) Swap out Dream Tiara for a Um'd perfect Kiras (+85 all resists, cannot be frozen, +20 fhr), to help survive Mephisto's -125 conviction aura
4) Swap out Verdungos for Arachnid Mesh Belt (+1 skills, +20% faster cast rate)
5) Swap out Dracul's Grasp for Magefists gloves (+1 fire skills, +20% faster cast rate)
6) Swap out Passion Phase Blade for Eternity Phase Blade
What is an Eternity phase blade? Well, it's a kind of obscure 1.10 runeword that works on both ladder and nonladder --
Eternity 5 Socket Melee Weapons Amn + Ber + Ist + Sol + Sur
Indestructible
+260-310% Enhanced Damage (varies)
+9 To Minimum Damage
7% Life Stolen Per Hit
20% Chance of Crushing Blow
Hit Blinds Target
Slows Target By 33%
Regenerate Mana 16%
Replenish Life +16
Cannot Be Frozen
30% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items
Level 8 Revive (88 Charges)
Anyway, the only thing you need to know is that it grants 88 charges of Level 8 Revive. Once you have revives up, you cannot switch out of the weapon or your revives will die instantly. You now have three minutes before your revives expire. So before fighting Mephisto, kill some monsters, switch to call to arms and cast Battle Orders/Battle Command, switch back to Eternity/Dream, revive the 8 toughest, baddest, monsters you can find and get them to tank for you while you blizzard Mephisto from a safe distance. Your dream shield will keep you alive, since it has a 10% chance to cast lvl 15 confuse when struck, so his huge army of skellie mages will be busy attacking each other instead of killing you. The best monsters to revive are the notoriously Sorc-unfriendly Immune-to-Everything Pit Lords found in Izual's mini-boss level or spawned by Diablo in uber trist. They're actually not so bad -- you can kill them with your Passion phase blade using pure physical damage (have your merc help out), or if you really want to inflict some pain, try weilding Grief.
You could probably also do uber trist with a pure caster setup with either Eternity or Harmony (the two runewords that give revives) -- but you would need two very powerful attacks in two trees, since Baal is immune to Cold, Diablo is immune to Fire, and Mephisto is immune to lightning and poison. Fireball/meteor/orb is probably your best bet. There is also an infamous "Solo Sorc Uber Trist" video on the web that shows a sorc with Tal's set killing ubers with a Fleshripper dagger and firewall, i.e. the one where the Ubers don't summon minions, don't move at uber speed, don't do uber damage, and Mephisto just sits still in the corner and dies quietly without moving. Don't even get me started. After seeing that, I knew I had to post a video showing that it could be done, and done right.
Acknowledgements -- too many to count, but principally --
z3phrn's (Midoban's) dualdream/enchant bear sorc guide
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=315277
Gimmershred's dualdream zeal enchantress guide
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=471447
And all the other zeal-chantress and uber tristram guides out there, especially in this forum...
I also have to give a major shout out to FooSoft and his amazing fast necro uber tristram run video, from which I learned the effectiveness of revives(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), and without which, I would probably still be trying to kill Uber Mephy with melee and crushing blow.... (ouch)
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=476867
I also owe a lot to space_loner's Trading Forums v1.11 Item Guide. I had to start from scratch, and really needed to pinch every pul at the beginning in order to get on my feet.
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=382411
Not to mention all the players who helped me on US East Ladder, particularly the ones who were nice and did not cheat ridiculously. Thanks to Blizzard for making and then fixing the dual dream glitch merc bug, so that the market was flooded with perfect Dreams on sale for a ridiculously low price. A thank you to the zombie in act5 which dropped a Pally Combat GC +39 lifer which was pretty much the foundation of all my wealth. And a moment of silence for all the pallybots who are no longer with us and their endless baal runs, without which it would have been incredibly hard to level a new character starting from scratch. :flip:
-- DreamOfWinter
[Sorceress, Lvl 91, US East SoftCore Ladder]
melianor
27-08-2006, 08:33
much better :D !!!!
Videos can be easily faked these days. Thanks forposting that build dreamofwinter! *rereading*
dreamofwinter
29-08-2006, 18:56
aw i gotta dl it and im too lazy... could u plz like youtube it or something? plz plz plz pretty plz?
You got it. YouTube link up: :thumbsup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo-e80SS6ho
It looks gawdawful, so if you have a faster connection, I posted a much smaller version of the original file, but which still has enough quality that you can actually see what is happening: [~50mb]
http://rapidshare.de/files/30609596/winter-trist640.avi.html
The video is captured with SnapIt8.
-- DreamOfWinter [*kommi97]
lvl 91 sorceress, US East Ladder
Yay!! I am amazed someone actually came up with a build, albiet a tricky one, that can uber run solo. I had always heard that this was near impossible because of what a sorc is in nature. My first character in all of D2 was a sorc and I loved playing as her, except then she got nerfed in 1.10 and I lost a lot of my interest when I saw pallys that could just own everything with a very simple build. It is reassuring. I really must praise you for your work, and understanding of the game.
-Nimby
Noite Escura
01-09-2006, 17:59
How do you handle the first Life Tap? It must take some time for the LT in Drac's to fire up. So, with less life than a Pala I guess it's hard to survive the initial seconds...
Incredible. This is the best movie of 2006 so far. Miami Vice was fair, but I'd rather see this on the big screen with Dolby surround.
:thumbsup:
newerest
02-09-2006, 07:14
Incredible. This is the best movie of 2006 so far. Miami Vice was fair, but I'd rather see this on the big screen with Dolby surround.
:thumbsup:
What the hell happened to Snakes on a Plane?
dreamofwinter
04-09-2006, 01:53
How do you handle the first Life Tap? It must take some time for the LT in Drac's to fire up. So, with less life than a Pala I guess it's hard to survive the initial seconds...
Marrowwalks have charges of Life Tap. So they will double as your life tap wand :)
dreamofwinter
04-09-2006, 01:54
Yay!! I am amazed someone actually came up with a build, albiet a tricky one, that can uber run solo. I had always heard that this was near impossible because of what a sorc is in nature. My first character in all of D2 was a sorc and I loved playing as her, except then she got nerfed in 1.10 and I lost a lot of my interest when I saw pallys that could just own everything with a very simple build. It is reassuring. I really must praise you for your work, and understanding of the game.
-Nimby
Aww... thanks. :)
Hooray for the sorceress! :smiley:
hhehe nice job dream i enjoyed making this build as well.
nice video....i thought your merc was pretty tough in there...my merc could barely survive for 5secs :shocked:
silver tek
09-10-2006, 12:34
thats freakin amazing, gona try it out asap. so bored of the typical hammerdin, smiter, zealer, builds for ubers. great build man (or woman :P)
KadoorieNuts
14-10-2006, 18:07
Hey guys... I am making a soc along this path. She is at her late 50s. I arm her the Dream helm and put 20 skill pts in light master. I didn't see how the shock aura works. Can anyone enlighten me?
Her current gears:-
Dream Bone Visage
Occy
Shoulder Ire
Spirit shield
Mage Fist
Snowclash
Inferno Boots
FCR/Resistance Ring
Resistance Ammy
On Switch:-
Light Sabre
Moser's w/Pdiamx2
Skills Allocation:-
Blizzard (max)
Cold master 16
GS 16
Light master 20
Merc(Hell Act 2 Defensive):-
Vampire Gaze
Shiftstop
Insight GP
TX in advance.
Bladewind
14-10-2006, 18:39
Congratulations. Also this is one of the first build that does not feature heavy crushing blow (merc does have 40% cb though due to infinity) but use elemental damage instead. Now that is cool.
I think it would be easier to use hell udars as revives, they have CB so they can take down mephy easier.
KadoorieNuts
16-10-2006, 19:50
I just finished Hell with tis build. I found it rather difficult to run act 5. Firstly, CI monsters slow dw the process. Melee approach is slow with even death PB. (I am still looking for a 4os pb to make passion.) I suspect not enf AR. Secondly, the Holy Shock from Dream is almost useless at tis level. I am not sure if arm with Dream Shield would help or not.
This is far from conclusive but running tristram with tis character seems like a tough job.
I just finished Hell with tis build. I found it rather difficult to run act 5. Firstly, CI monsters slow dw the process. Melee approach is slow with even death PB. (I am still looking for a 4os pb to make passion.) I suspect not enf AR. Secondly, the Holy Shock from Dream is almost useless at tis level. I am not sure if arm with Dream Shield would help or not.
This is far from conclusive but running tristram with tis character seems like a tough job.
I'm building it now but the second dream and Passion's Zeal would seem to be key. With one dream you're only talking a lvl 15 shock. Even with maxed lightning mastery you're not talking a whole lot of damage compared to other sources. Even with masteries auras don't work all that well in Hell unless they're over lvl 20 and then they get exponentially better. At level 30 plus the mastery you end up really pushing out enough damage points to make a difference. That's why he's able to describe killing Nit with a couple hits.
Zeal is key to killing CI packs quickly and relatively efficiently. And don't forget that with Passion you don't just have Zeal - you also have Berzerk. Obviously blizzard can take care of most of those concerns but being able to convert all of your physical damage into magic damage - along with the shock damage - will help you deal with duel cold/physical immunes or with CIs in act 4 or the worldstone. Takes a while w/o Zeal but it worked for my Pally so I'm sure it'll work with this build. Don't forget that passion also gives you that %AR bonus so if you're already wearing a ravensfrost ring you should have enough AR to hit most everything short of baal.
(edited because I don't have a 4os PB and I offered it up ;))
*rk260395
*rkchars
KadoorieNuts
17-10-2006, 08:55
Tx Lowgat for the input. Unfortunately, I play at West; still, I tx for the offer. I will make a dream shield first, as the gear and the rune required for it are ready. I will shop for a 4os pb in the forum or find one myself. Once I have the full setup for her; I will let u know the result.
My merc setup is a bit different from the thread suggests. He wears Kira and eth forti. I guess it is ok too judging from the previous playing.
dreamofwinter
28-10-2006, 21:25
hey Kadoorie,
Hopefully you're having some more success with the build now that you've played it more -- it takes some practice to get used to the timing of using both blizzard and melee for groups of monsters with different immunities.
It sounds like cold immunes are giving you trouble because you can't hit them. You could get around this by increasing your attack rating, but you are best off getting an Infinity for your merc. Not only does the Conviction Aura lower enemies resistances, it reduces their defense by a huge amount. Once you get this, you should just about never miss. Normally I use a call to arms phase blade as my melee weapon, because the battle orders helps survivability a ton and with 40% IAS it swings plenty fast enough. One great thing about playing a melee sorc, though, is that you have great flexibility on your choice of weapon because you aren't relying on physical damage. If you are on US East look me up and I'll give you some pointers.
--dreamofwinter
KadoorieNuts
30-10-2006, 18:30
TX DoW. Unfortunately, I play @ West. I suppose this is the last build I ever make b4 they reset the season. I have both Dream now and an infinity for merc too. I will try to get CTA with my limited runes.
I have fun with Smiter, javazon, and Fishy. Other builds which I tried are far from fun. They struggle thru hell. I have a Faith bowzon, Frenze brab, Kickersin, Woven, Summoner Durid, and FO/Lighting soc. Melee soc is my last hope for a meaningful build. I am not very experienced at LoD but I hope by doing all these build I can build something lethal in the next season. Tx for you help.
nice guide. a little bit too adventurous for me, tho. have you thought about using a might merc instead. it'll boost his and your damage. it'll give you a much need damage boost.
BmanOwnsYou
31-10-2006, 07:22
but takes away from enemy resist and def.^
One great thing about playing a melee sorc, though, is that you have great flexibility on your choice of weapon because you aren't relying on physical damage.
Well you're not relying on the damage per se but you do need the leech so it can't be completely ignored. Finding a good bo CtA in a phase blade isn't easy so mine's in a Crystal Sword and I just switch to Passion when I need to whack away. I normally keep my CtA in my pack and switch it out with an escutcha/spirit combo for teleporting but using my CtA in place of passion for normal runs isn't a terrible idea (lose the +2 from spirit but I can probably deal with that).
I'm almost done with this build (lvl 83). As expected she breezed through Hell solo. She seems pretty proficient at key runs and folks love the (nearly) max glacial spike in baal runs.
Still need an s-torch, metalgrid, and merc equip (have glitched 4os armor and eth cv but haven't starting runing 'em yet) but I fully expect this to be my second build when/if the ladder resets. Getting torches early in a fresh, dupe free (hopefully) economy could be nice.
Yes Sir I Will
31-10-2006, 20:04
that was a killer video. A+ :thumbsup:
Gimmershred
31-10-2006, 22:37
Excellent video, i love to see this stuff.
I succeeded the first 3 portals with my meleesorc.
I haven't tried ubertris with her, also since i can't beat mephi anyways and since i play on a pentium 2 , 400mhz i have a framerate of 0 in there wich makes it even hard to do it with barb or smiter.
your merc seems key here. Since your attack rating won't be that great and you need a lot of damage, you really need that conviction to hit with your zeal. Good job on keeping him alive.
I love the effect of confuse, it's so obvious in this movie.
Especially mephi seems very tough, except if you stay clear of danger using your revives as you did. Nice part on exactly counting out your resists after his aura.
Maybe a passion zerker would be nice for ubertris. It certainly would better for your leeching, although your attack would be a bit slower. Your average damage vs demons with pb seems around 370-420. With zerker it would be around 290-850, wich is almost double although it's a bit slower. If you even can do it without the lifetap from draculs and from charges only you could wear laying of hands and get 550-1600 physical damage to demons.
I'll go look for that video capturing program and maybe make some videos of my duels with my meleesorc, looks like fun to make some cool movies.
dreamofwinter
11-11-2006, 05:33
I haven't tried with a passion zerker, but I've tried using Grief / Laying of Hands lately. It takes longer because you don't hit as fast or as often, but one hit completely restores your life ball. It's a great feeling -- I can see why people play smiters now!
I've recently been testing out (on single player) a meteor/fireball/melee sorc. I'm confident she will tear through uber trist even faster, but I find that Baal runs are much tougher, specifically the Fire Immune minions of destruction with /players = 8. So, I am looking for a cold/melee sorc to team up for leveling, running ubers, and generally just dominating the game. If anyone is interested in starting a blizzard/melee sorc on US East ladder, let me know, and we'll talk. :)
Excellent video, i love to see this stuff.
I succeeded the first 3 portals with my meleesorc.
I haven't tried ubertris with her, also since i can't beat mephi anyways and since i play on a pentium 2 , 400mhz i have a framerate of 0 in there wich makes it even hard to do it with barb or smiter.
your merc seems key here. Since your attack rating won't be that great and you need a lot of damage, you really need that conviction to hit with your zeal. Good job on keeping him alive.
I love the effect of confuse, it's so obvious in this movie.
Especially mephi seems very tough, except if you stay clear of danger using your revives as you did. Nice part on exactly counting out your resists after his aura.
Maybe a passion zerker would be nice for ubertris. It certainly would better for your leeching, although your attack would be a bit slower. Your average damage vs demons with pb seems around 370-420. With zerker it would be around 290-850, wich is almost double although it's a bit slower. If you even can do it without the lifetap from draculs and from charges only you could wear laying of hands and get 550-1600 physical damage to demons.
I'll go look for that video capturing program and maybe make some videos of my duels with my meleesorc, looks like fun to make some cool movies.
ArchsageVal
11-11-2006, 06:46
I hit lvl 94 (My native lvl to stop grinding) with a sorc with no skills or stats, muled over yur build tiems, used stats and skills, and omg did uber trist in 9 mins first time, about 4 mins the 2nd. Love it, considering my acc has 4 palis all lvl 94+, 2 mules, and needed to make a girl char because my girlfriend wanted to try and play d2 :D Kudos, finally a build other then meteorb and light crap.. (Anyone seen a zon,druid or assasin do ubers? I'm pretty sure druid and zon can tho..) I got 1 char slot left and wanna make another strange, pwnage build.
TouchStorm
21-11-2006, 21:02
Very nice guide. I plan to get back to D2 again after 2 years of nonaction and decide to follow this build for my new sorc - TouchStorm :)
I only have one question for the build. Is that 15 point requirement for cold master including the item added skill points or only the base hard points? With item added skills (10~15 skill points), wouldn't 1 point in CM enough? Thanks!
dreamofwinter
22-11-2006, 20:51
Very nice guide. I plan to get back to D2 again after 2 years of nonaction and decide to follow this build for my new sorc - TouchStorm :)
I only have one question for the build. Is that 15 point requirement for cold master including the item added skill points or only the base hard points? With item added skills (10~15 skill points), wouldn't 1 point in CM enough? Thanks!
You won't have any other means of lowering Uber Mephisto's 75% cold resistance, so you need a lot of cold mastery. Your infinity merc will either die or even if he doesn't his lower level conviciton won't be able to affect Mephisto who has a higher level conviction. 15 hard points into cold mastery will do the trick. If you want more damage from blizzard for PvM (since your infinity merc will work as normal during baal runs and MFing) only put 10 and put the rest in blizz/ice blast synergies. I wouldn't recommend going below that... :)
TouchStorm
22-11-2006, 21:03
Thanks for clear that up :smiley:. I will do that. Looks like this is a quite expensive build and I have nearly nothing at this moment. It may take couple months if not longer to have decent stuffs for the build. But I will go for it. As least i have enough blizzard for my initial MFing...:P
Also, is that 1 point in fire master for helping enchant?
TouchStorm
23-11-2006, 03:46
By the way, how this build does in PVP?
dreamofwinter
25-11-2006, 19:00
Glad you liked the build. How did you manage to convince your gal to play d2? :) I can't even get mine to play Sims.
I hit lvl 94 (My native lvl to stop grinding) with a sorc with no skills or stats, muled over yur build tiems, used stats and skills, and omg did uber trist in 9 mins first time, about 4 mins the 2nd. Love it, considering my acc has 4 palis all lvl 94+, 2 mules, and needed to make a girl char because my girlfriend wanted to try and play d2 :D Kudos, finally a build other then meteorb and light crap.. (Anyone seen a zon,druid or assasin do ubers? I'm pretty sure druid and zon can tho..) I got 1 char slot left and wanna make another strange, pwnage build.
dreamofwinter
25-11-2006, 19:09
As I recall, I started with scratch and had all my gear in about a month. It should be a little easier now, because with all the high rune duping the US East economy has collapsed and you can sell a lot of skill grand charms and decent items for Jah (don't know how things are on US West.) Happy hunting!
The one point in fire mastery doesn't help enchant very much, I simply put it there when I built my sorc because I thought about using Hand of Justice as a weapon which has a Holy Fire aura. Hand of Justice is good weapon and adds about 1k fire damage with 1pt fire mastery, but eventually I found myself just sticking to my phase blade call to arms because I dislike weapon switching.
The build is not great for PvP, because your blizz doesn't do enough damage to kill people instantly so pubbies sorb you like crazy. You aura pulse doesn't do enough damage if you don't have your conviction merc around, and you won't be able to hit people in melee very often because most have max block and insane defense ratings. If other people have had more success with PvP, I'd be interested in hearing their stories.
Thanks for clear that up :smiley:. I will do that. Looks like this is a quite expensive build and I have nearly nothing at this moment. It may take couple months if not longer to have decent stuffs for the build. But I will go for it. As least i have enough blizzard for my initial MFing...:P
Also, is that 1 point in fire master for helping enchant?
TouchStorm
07-12-2006, 01:54
Status update:
After couple weeks of slow play, I finally got Infinity (eth thresher 325ed 49lr) and achron fortitude (will try eth coh for comparision when i get it later on ) for the merc. For the sorc self, I got spider web belt on and spirit shield so far. Her armor is only a 14%cold15%lighting ormus now. Still long way to go for the complete build with dreams, passion and cohs. But things are looking better now. My merc at lvl81 does great in hell :).
hey! i m looking to make this build but i was curious to see if anyone manage to streamline it down even more so than i was... and i was also curious to why you used dusk shroud over archon plate other than strength req... theres a lot more def in that no???
krawlingkaos
03-02-2009, 08:08
This build no longer works. Please clean up your forums. I spent a week on this and a load of good runes and gold to get the equipment and only to find out that (a) the dream helm and dream shield won't stack due to updates, and (b) THERE IS NO MORE PASSION PHASE BLADE, HENCE NO ZEAL. I mean f***ing a man. They got rid of it so that in itself scraps this build. So please, delete this whole thread and spare another from spending time and items on it.
If I'm wrong, I apologize. I could only hope to be proved wrong.
dude...... i built this... i am destroying everything......except for pvp but thats ok... cuz.... this build is dope and you should get your facts straight b4 running your mouth....
BobChuck
05-02-2009, 15:16
I may be mistaken here, but the Passion runeword doesn't show up anywhere. It's listed on wikis and web sites, but I'm not seeing it on 1.12 Ladder. Does this rune word still function for this season's ladder? It's one of the pieces that enable the build, so this is important.
look if you guys are looking for a passion on phaseblade i have another one... if you guys want you can find me on u.s west ladder under eva-sor001 or shizwiz you can find me almost anytime as i have no life and play all the time
weatherman
19-02-2009, 12:04
I'm pretty sure that passion still works as a friend of mine made a passion in a Crystal sword 0o hopefully this build still works as I'd like to made one in future.
dirtycash
28-05-2009, 17:58
Why not use Demon Limb for enchant? Does Fire Mastery boost it?
Storched
11-07-2009, 05:48
So i have done this build exactly, and most of the items i have are upgraded over the guide. But still this character is much too weak to do uber tristam. Im wondering if something in the patches or whatever have weakened this build. Is anyone who has this build actually able to do uber tristam anymore?
sirpoopsalot
11-07-2009, 22:59
The mechanics of the game haven't changed - at all - since uber trist was introduced. This is just as (in)effective as it was once upon a time (there's no uberTrist and few high-runes in SP, so I can't test or vouch for it myself).
If I had to guess, are you a (somewhat) low level? Being significantly lower level than your opponents always makes things tougher.
Ceramic Weasel
13-07-2009, 09:48
Even with all the right gear, skills, stats, etc, Uber Trist isn't a walk in the park. It's really tough to do with a melee sorc, but dreamofwinter makes it look easy. It requires excellent tactics, lots of potion chugging and plenty of practice.
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