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Dalfaldor
24-08-2006, 15:21
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/7421/screenshot030vc3.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9040/screenshot031al2.jpg

The one who redeemed all those players that held their grudge and
hatred against Ilian Varadinov aka "PsyCho-core" was no other than
Julian Becher aka "Joule1".

Quotes from other forum...

Keep you passwords long, guys. :sad2:
Wordplay
24-08-2006, 17:17
Another sign of the aging software and the non-existent maintenance from Blizzard. Even though bad password has nothing to do with software. :azn:

(Tip: change at least one of the letters to a number and start with a capital. E.g: Tr1umph, B3l1ever, T3rminat0r, etc. Makes it almost impossible to crack.)
GodObelisk
24-08-2006, 17:27
I dun get it, anyone care to explain what is the 1st post trying to say? :scratch:
PhatTrumpet
24-08-2006, 18:11
See all those godly high level characters? That was somebody's account not too long ago.

See all those dead level one characters that expire in 10 days? That's the result of someone cracking the password, deleting all those godly characters (and probably taking all the gear first), re-creating all those godly characters with the same names, and promptly killing them off.

EDIT: Why is the first screenshot in German (I assume) and the second screen shot in English?
MortenMblah
24-08-2006, 18:22
Simply just w-o-w.

Ain't the chances of how that the person cracked the password to be found in keyloggers etc.?
Samsung
24-08-2006, 20:28
That's.. that's just mean.
If someone ever did that to me, I don't know what I would do.
bigD72
24-08-2006, 20:36
That's.. that's just mean.
If someone ever did that to me, I don't know what I would do.
Start over with lots of untwinked action!
Vizjerei
24-08-2006, 20:43
See all those godly high level characters? That was somebody's account not too long ago.

See all those dead level one characters that expire in 10 days? That's the result of someone cracking the password, deleting all those godly characters (and probably taking all the gear first), re-creating all those godly characters with the same names, and promptly killing them off.

EDIT: Why is the first screenshot in German (I assume) and the second screen shot in English?

PsyCho = German

Cracker = English

i think ;]
Nilaripper
24-08-2006, 20:59
Keep you passwords long, guys. :sad2:

This looks like a fake, i checked europe HCL rankings:
Psycho-Core lvl99 amazon ,number 6 ALIVE
Psycho-eternal lvl99 barbarian,number 12 ALIVE
Samsung
24-08-2006, 21:05
This looks like a fake, i checked europe HCL rankings:
Psycho-Core lvl99 amazon ,number 6 ALIVE
Psycho-eternal lvl99 barbarian,number 12 ALIVE

When someone dies on HCL, it doesn't always show that they have died.
I think if it's a PVP death, it is logged as alive? I know that there are some "dead" characters on ladder this season that are still ranked as alive.
Klauspoppe
24-08-2006, 21:33
They are dead... I have seen ears. Anyways I killed joules 98 zon.
MoUsE_WiZ
24-08-2006, 23:05
Nah, PvP deaths can still turn gray.
GodObelisk
25-08-2006, 02:54
Now i see the point. Thanks PhatTrumpet for the explanation. :idea:
PhatTrumpet
25-08-2006, 03:28
This looks like a fake, i checked europe HCL rankings:
Psycho-Core lvl99 amazon ,number 6 ALIVE
Psycho-eternal lvl99 barbarian,number 12 ALIVE
People die on ladder all the time without their names turning grey. Xey's Sorc on East, for instance, died months ago and is still shown as alive on the ladder (#19 now).
Hp_Sauce
25-08-2006, 04:38
Xey's Sorc on East, for instance, died months ago and is still shown as alive on the ladder (#19 now).

R.I.P.

On topic:
Personly if I was this 'hacker' person and I stole that other person's account I would: Steal all of his items, and then kill his high level characters and take a screen shot of them in their ghost form. I mean, it would offer a little more proof of the 'deed' actually being complete.

As it stands right now for all we know. Someone just took a screen shot of that person's account on Europe (in german). This screen shot could even have been found on Google for all we care. Said 'hacker' then created an account with the same name on a different realm (in english), created the same characters, killed them and then photoshoped in the word "Europe" Under where it says "realm".

Infact I find this to be the only explenation as to why its a bunch of dead level 1's rather then a bunch of dead level 9x's

Personly if I was this 'hacker' (photoshopper), I would have photoshopped the 1's out and replaced them with the correct numbers. This would have required moving the words that say the character class (barbarian, Paladin, etc.) over a little bit to allow the 2nd digit in there. Obviously that would have been difficult to do and time consuming but it would have added a level of believability to this 'hack'.

They are dead... I have seen ears. Anyways I killed joules 98 zon.

@Klauspoppe: Werent you accused of being an infamous tppker on Europe not too long ago? You denied it of course and I can't say either way if you are or aren't. But I reserve the right to believe things simply because someone on the internet said it.

My 2 cents I suppose.
-hps
MoUsE_WiZ
25-08-2006, 05:34
seem to me it would've been easier to copy the ghost into the right place than moving text around hp_sauce =p
Dalfaldor
25-08-2006, 09:47
I would wish to believe you, Hp_Sauce. Thinking about that they can hack everything in BNet makes me very sad, and I feel strong willing to turn back to single player. :(

More proofs:

For me there was nothing like that necessary, even if I also have the
skills to have hacked him. It was nothing more than the authentic skill
that is called the eye of insight. Ilian changed the password for
myself - as long there is trust, there will always be betrayal. But in
fact - I did not betray anyone - there was no relation nor friendship
from the beginning towards him. It was an act of revenge for one of my
closest elite party members. I wrote about 5pages to Ilian what kind of
psychological warfare made him my prey. There is not any higher chance
than 0% to resist the eye of insight. Means Ilian did not have any
chance to begin with as soon as he did meet me the first time.

I
am going to make those ears official visible from now on - if there
still are b( .)(. )ns that doubt any of my words and skills.

Anyone that still doubts... is nothing more than a pathetic naive Softcore b( .)(. )n for me.


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The 1337 prevails over everything, so does Uchiha Itachi.
ADSL
25-08-2006, 12:03
"hacker" and my arse.
He got the pw from someone who knew it, keylogger, or by bruteforcing a forumid on a non bruteforce secure forum, with the same pw.
hardly qualify him to be called a hacker.
Klauspoppe
25-08-2006, 12:05
So funni. Ilian was dumb too dumb to trust his pws to "friend".
You should never trust anyone in hc. There is ppls who would pk their mother if she just had enough high character.
bigD72
25-08-2006, 14:16
"hacker" and my arse.
He got the pw from someone who knew it, keylogger, or by bruteforcing a forumid on a non bruteforce secure forum, with the same pw.
hardly qualify him to be called a hacker.
Probably not bruteforce, that'd take WAAAAAYYYY too long.

Keylogger would be my guess.
Ankeli
25-08-2006, 16:00
Could chicken have anything to do with the ladder not showing the dead ones?
MoUsE_WiZ
25-08-2006, 21:49
Probably not bruteforce, that'd take WAAAAAYYYY too long.

Keylogger would be my guess.
Depends on the password and the dictionary.

Edit: Ankeli that was once a hypothesis, but I've had 2 deaths, both PvP, both times I stayed in the game rather than fluxing for loot reasons, one showed gray, one didn't.
ADSL
26-08-2006, 00:33
Probably not bruteforce, that'd take WAAAAAYYYY too long.

Keylogger would be my guess.

I was only stating the 3 ways i considered "likely" he got the pw.