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What do you think of a HC player who decides to save and exit rather have their character die?
Nilaripper
22-08-2006, 10:41
What do you think of a HC player who decides to save and exit rather have their character die?
The main thing is to stay alive,the graveyard is full of heroes.
MoUsE_WiZ
22-08-2006, 11:34
What do you think of a HC player who decides to save and exit rather have their character die?
Playing the game the way it's meant to be played. If people knew they couldn't S&E to avoid death in most circumstances many of them wouldn't play in ways that occaisionally get them into those circumstances in the first place. Yes, removing S&E adds more danger, but playing in a style that forces you to sometimes rely on S&E adds more danger as well, so I don't consider S&E a cop out.
OzDemandred
22-08-2006, 12:49
What do you think of a HC player who decides to save and exit rather have their character die?
Smart.
As I said, some years ago...
If you feel that you can’t win the fight, back off and live to fight another day. “Your Deeds of Valour will be Remembered” is a fallacy, for the only person who will remember them is you, as you bash your head on the keyboard and curse. Cowards are not court-martialled and shot in Diablo 2…they live to fight again.
See? It's still valid to this day. :azn:
I dont S&E much, I frankly hate it btu I do do it. For the most part its PKs and Lag that I S&E for and we arent talking abou tjust any ole lag. I peronally feel my builds should be able to get themselves out of trouble and be able to handle tight situations that is why they are always built strong.
I dont have any issues with S&E or anything and beleive me there are times where i have used it a bunch but it is only extreme situations.
What do you think of a HC player who decides to save and exit rather have their character die?
I consider them a smart and competent player.
BongoFury
22-08-2006, 16:58
What do you think of a HC player who decides to save and exit rather have their character die?As long as a player doesn't have a detrimental effect on other players, I think they should play the game however they like.
Personally, I never leave a game unless I'm in town. IMO, the point of playing HC is to play smart and to not play recklessly. Putting yourself in a position where you need to S&E violates these tenents. Now I'm not saying to play like a coward and creep along, I like to play aggressively. But there's a big difference between aggressive and reckless, and like everything else with HC, you need to learn the difference.
GodObelisk
22-08-2006, 17:40
Going forward is not the only option available... actually retreat takes more courgae than going forward :scratch:
NightShade
22-08-2006, 19:14
Convict/Estrong/FE gloams!
Alt + f4 for the win.
Convict/Estrong/FE gloams!
Alt + f4 for the win.
Na.......zigzag in retreat......regroup and consider the options. Hell Alt f4 just lets em get a clear shot at ya while you stand still!!!
Full_Circle
23-08-2006, 02:01
What do you think of a HC player who decides to save and exit rather have their character die?
It's there. As long as your computer isn't doing it for you, there's no shame in it. Of course, if you're doing it on a regular basis, eventually you're going to be just a bit too slow.
Hp_Sauce
23-08-2006, 04:16
I have no problems with S&E (or Fluxing as some used to refer to it as...) I try not to get my self into that situation, but hey I make mistakes.
Most of the time when I flux its a) because the hostile sounder has just gone off and I'm feeling fairly vonerable in my current position/state, or b) I am surrounded by a fairly large and dangerous group of monsters (probably was teleporting) and my merc has stopped moving, the monsters have stopped moving and it stays this way for ~2 seconds, I am obviously lagging badly.
I'll wait longer then that if I have friends in the area though. I worry that if I s&e and they wait it out I might leave them hanging.
-hps
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Originally Posted by NightShade
Convict/Estrong/FE gloams!
Alt + f4 for the win.
Na.......zigzag in retreat......regroup and consider the options. Hell Alt f4 just lets em get a clear shot at ya while you stand still!!!
Actually Alt + F4 does do a save and exit, then closes the game.
I don't save & exit often to avoid death, but if I have to, I have no problem with doing so.
i will s&e most often while teleporting and ending up in a really bad herd (a4-a5 hell only) or as mentioned by HP when it lags near a herd.
oddly enough i will not save and exit in a duel situation. I will most often accept death in order to preserve the loot. Too often while trying to flux in a duel you'll die and lose gear because of quitting a split second too late. As long as the charms aren't too hard to replace, accept the death to save the gear.
What do you think of a HC player who decides to save and exit rather have their character die?
I consider them a player that doesn't want to lose something they have
earned. I have done it before, and probably will continue to do so.
Valar-Wrath
24-08-2006, 06:28
Actually Alt + F4 does do a save and exit, then closes the game.
I don't save & exit often to avoid death, but if I have to, I have no problem with doing so.
'Supposedly', alt+f4 is slower in leaving the game than s&e. I'm not sure about the technicalities behind that but many people have claimed so.
Hp_Sauce
24-08-2006, 06:39
'Supposedly', alt+f4 is slower in leaving the game than s&e. I'm not sure about the technicalities behind that but many people have claimed so.
Well, Alt+f4 certainly kills the program faster then any other method possible. The question would be, does it kill the program so fast that it doesn't have time to send the proper "I'm disconnecting" signals to battle.net
If it doesn't send that "signal" then you could potentially be left hanging (standing) much longer then a normal s&e. Depending on how long it takes the b.net server to figure out that you're gone.
If it does send that "signal" then Alt+f4 would be the much better choise. If you ask me its much easier to Alt+f4 then it is to press Esc, and then find the mouse pointer, and click on s&e.
All of this is probably a moot (sp?) point though, since most people flux because they are lagging. Which means our computer most likely has little control over how fast you exit the game on the server side.
-hps
MoUsE_WiZ
24-08-2006, 11:21
It would actually be easy enough to test, just have 2 people, preferably on vent so you could get the exact moment but typing "alt+f4" immediately folled by alt+f4 would work well enough, have one of them flux ~5 times or so via each method and see how long it takes the other player to see them out of the game...
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