View Full Version : Need help with Mf barb
I think i might have read a guide about one somewhere, but haven't been able to find it, so if some1 could post a link to it thatd be great.
If not, i have a bunch of questions about building one to do some trav, meph, or solo cs runs.
1. Whirlwind, mace mastery, and BO are obviously gonna be maxed, but how should i distribute points in item find, natural resist or shout?
2. Whats the ideal gear setup?
3. Should i kill first with a mix of mf gear and pvm gear, then switch to full mf gear to item find? or what combination of both should i use?
Byaxident
21-08-2006, 17:37
1. My mfer on ladder has 50% chance (which is level 17 I think) after battle command and with gear on. After level 17, the diminishing return is pretty hard core. At level 23, you have 52% chance.
No need for shout on a mf barb (well 1 point as prerequisite).
Natural resists: depends on how good your gear is to some extent; after all the basic skills are maxed, dumping points in natural resists and a couple in increased speed is a good idea.
2. On ladder, its pretty hard not to use angelics (armor + ammy + 2 rings). If you have a dual leech weapon (ideally martel), youll be able to use chance guards. Otherwise, youre going to have to get leech off your gloves. Obviously, you're going to use gwrap. Boots are pretty straightforward also: frw/resists/mf (and gf for travincal).
3. Personally, I dont think that more mf is always better, not in classic. The only situation where I would bother switching to gulls for popping is in trav, since they dont drop many rares at all. IMO trav runs are only useful for gfing. The drops there are usually pretty average.
WarlockCC
21-08-2006, 18:03
On a side-note, the search function of the forum is turned on again :
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=478419
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=474186
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=474097
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=459230
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=451172
And you might wish to read this one aswell :
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=442105
Same with this one, since you will also suffer from the effects :
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=481634
I searched for the keyword MF (very general) limited it to the classic forum and then just browsed for topics which where remotely MF barb related.
I checked about 10 pages, so there might be more threads concerning. Next time, please use the search function.
thx for the help byaxident. Just one more question: what helm would be the best choice? Tarn, 3 topaz helm, or a rare with fhr,life,etc but no mf?
Byaxident
21-08-2006, 18:27
I wouldnt use a rare helm unless you really have terrible resists and a hard time surviving vs elemental damage. That shouldnt happen after you reach a relatively high level. My barb always has a 3-ptopaz helm on, except for trav runs.
For trav runs, I switch to tarn/gskin/chance guards with a rare barb ammy and 2 rare leech/mf rings. Using that gear, I have terrible ar and cant hit a thing. Thats actually a good thing in trav IMO since it helps you survive that le/fe bug crap. Id rather do slow runs in trav and never die than do fast ones and die every 5 runs and lose 500k gold.
WarlockCC
21-08-2006, 21:13
I wouldnt use a rare helm unless you really have terrible resists and a hard time surviving vs elemental damage. That shouldnt happen after you reach a relatively high level. My barb always has a 3-ptopaz helm on, except for trav runs.
For trav runs, I switch to tarn/gskin/chance guards with a rare barb ammy and 2 rare leech/mf rings. Using that gear, I have terrible ar and cant hit a thing. Thats actually a good thing in trav IMO since it helps you survive that le/fe bug crap. Id rather do slow runs in trav and never die than do fast ones and die every 5 runs and lose 500k gold.
Yes, by Byaxident, but we're not talking to you anymore cause you find too much good stuff. You suck all the good luck out of b.net so there's none left for us. :wink3:
Personally, I just have a Goldfind barb, so I use a tarn rather then a 3 topaz.
And Even at my level 76 I can't just run into the council's lair and kill them all. I just lure them out one by one. Then I don't need any potions either.
Yes, by Byaxident, but we're not talking to you anymore cause you find too much good stuff. You suck all the good luck out of b.net so there's none left for us. :wink3:
Personally, I just have a Goldfind barb, so I use a tarn rather then a 3 topaz.
And Even at my level 76 I can't just run into the council's lair and kill them all. I just lure them out one by one. Then I don't need any potions either.
perhaps it's me being wreckless, but my lvl 89 marter (24x mart :( I need better) with a boatload of resist (wearing gskin and decent rare boots/gloves with resist as well as mf, plus a resisty ring) sometimes will find hiself dead doing travincal in a full game.
invariabley he ends up hit with some type of curse on his head, frozen, and/or one of the rabid bastidges will spawn with conviction and/or a physical immune that is also a mana burner, my personal favorite ><
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