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Uchiha Sasuke
19-08-2006, 15:38
What can I do to improve my mf sorc.
She uses 35 hoto
tals amy
tals armr
tals belt
shako
29 spirit monarch
natures
nagel
15/15/60 non eth treks

no torch/anni as of yet.

I want more mf on her... more dmg on her... and more res.
Res - high priority
Dmg - med priority
mf - low priority (meaning lowest of the 3. not low in general)
RES:
Fire -21
Cold 54
Lightning 47
Poison 63

I'll get a torch soon too.

My merc has infinity so dmg isn't TOO much of a worry.

What can I do to her? I want to have enough res so I can switch out hoto for an ist'd occy and have CTA on switch

MageChick
19-08-2006, 17:01
What kind of sorc? If you haven't already read throught the "truth about tal's" in the guide section, I'd check it out. If you go full tal, You'll get 50% resist all, more life and the negative enemy resistances on the tal orb will more than make up for the loss of a few skill points. In the end full tal does more damage, with more resistance, and very competative MF.

Uchiha Sasuke
19-08-2006, 17:27
What kind of sorc? If you haven't already read throught the "truth about tal's" in the guide section, I'd check it out. If you go full tal, You'll get 50% resist all, more life and the negative enemy resistances on the tal orb will more than make up for the loss of a few skill points. In the end full tal does more damage, with more resistance, and very competative MF.
Light sorc. The -res will help alot then? Because I have infinity on merc....

lagalot
19-08-2006, 18:23
If your mercs infinity has already broken any lite immunity then tals orb will lower the monsters resist another 15%.
Switching to full tals you will lose the mf +2 skills life and mana on the shako and the option of 80mf isted occy.

Work on getting some charms with resist and preferably +mf.
You could um the Shako and Tals armour and switch over the hoto for an isted occy.If the occy and tals are ptopazed you lose 48 mf but gain 32 overall and gain 15 resist overall,expensive way to go though.

Or socket them with tal ral ort or thul..whichever you need the most.Hel them out later when you get some nice 11resist/7mf scs torch and anni.

Uchiha Sasuke
19-08-2006, 18:37
If your mercs infinity has already broken any lite immunity then tals orb will lower the monsters resist another 15%.
Switching to full tals you will lose the mf +2 skills life and mana on the shako and the option of 80mf isted occy.

Work on getting some charms with resist and preferably +mf.
You could um the Shako and Tals armour and switch over the hoto for an isted occy.If the occy and tals are ptopazed you lose 48 mf but gain 32 overall and gain 15 resist overall,expensive way to go though.

Or socket them with tal ral ort or thul..whichever you need the most.Hel them out later when you get some nice 11resist/7mf scs torch and anni.
But where do I make up the fcr if I take off the hoto for occy?

lagalot
19-08-2006, 18:46
I was suggesting switching over the hoto for an isted occy.

If you choose to go with tals then the orb has 20fcr on it also.However you lose the mf from your shako and occy and +5 skills from the items.You will gain +3 sorc skills from the full set though.

Uchiha Sasuke
19-08-2006, 19:19
I was suggesting switching over the hoto for an isted occy.

If you choose to go with tals then the orb has 20fcr on it also.However you lose the mf from your shako and occy and +5 skills from the items.You will gain +3 sorc skills from the full set though.
I edited my post.

I just don't like the full set though... I gain about 15 res, and I can get that by um-ing my shako. Theres nothing else to gain from the full set...

lagalot
19-08-2006, 20:17
Did you check out the stats on the full set?
It is nice but imo you sacrifice more than its worth especially in mf.

MuhammadJihad
19-08-2006, 20:18
get a torch/anni/gheeds if you dont have

and then you can get resist/mf scs

or use a BTALS instead of regular tals..

btals = 25% damage reduce 40 resist all 2 skills

lagalot
19-08-2006, 20:48
get a torch/anni/gheeds if you dont have

and then you can get resist/mf scs

or use a BTALS instead of regular tals..

btals = 25% damage reduce 40 resist all 2 skills

I think that was the original plan and wtf is a btals?

MuhammadJihad
19-08-2006, 20:53
btals

Defense: 919
Required Strength: 84
Required Level: 71
+2 to All Skills
+25% Faster Run/Walk
+400 Defense
All Resistances +40
Damage Reduced By 25%
Magic Damage Reduced By 15
Requirements -60%

ioupainmax
19-08-2006, 23:12
you still failed to mention what type of item it is...at any rate it looks like a hacked armour as far as i can tell

melianor
19-08-2006, 23:16
btals

Defense: 919
Required Strength: 84
Required Level: 71
+2 to All Skills
+25% Faster Run/Walk
+400 Defense
All Resistances +40
Damage Reduced By 25%
Magic Damage Reduced By 15
Requirements -60%

This is not exactly a regular item, correct? If you suggest hacked items to play with, then also state the fact that they are hacked. Some people do not want to play with such items....

Uchiha Sasuke
19-08-2006, 23:27
This is not exactly a regular item, correct? If you suggest hacked items to play with, then also state the fact that they are hacked. Some people do not want to play with such items....
It isn't hacked... it's bugged. Then it was duped massivly. I've never seen one in game... nor do I want to. It's a coh with more dr and less res..



My sorc does 11k with no torch or anni... I want to get at 15+ k with 300mf and maxed res.
EDIT
Just realized torch and anni should get me the res and damage

melianor
19-08-2006, 23:32
It isn't hacked... it's bugged. Then it was duped massivly. I've never seen one in game... nor do I want to. It's a coh with more dr and less res..



My sorc does 11k with no torch or anni... I want to get at 15+ k with 300mf and maxed res.
EDIT
Just realized torch and anni should get me the res and damage

Duped, hacked whatever, it should be stated. Thanks for the update though.

MuhammedJihad, although it is not forbidden to suggest such items, it is certainly not a suggestion that is entirely welcome here.

MuhammadJihad
19-08-2006, 23:34
monkey its a coh with ALOT more dr which is important to some pvp builds

Anyways coh isnt really mf

btals works with other tal set items to gain bonuses

thats the reason i suggested it

ioupainmax
19-08-2006, 23:51
coh may not be ideal mf gear but at least its legit...

Uchiha Sasuke
20-08-2006, 01:01
monkey its a coh with ALOT more dr which is important to some pvp builds

Anyways coh isnt really mf

btals works with other tal set items to gain bonuses

thats the reason i suggested it
It also poofs... and it's also a dupe.

And this isn't a pvp char...

Uchiha Sasuke
20-08-2006, 01:34
Anyways...
What if I got torch/anni... um'd my tals arm and shako....
180 mf wep/ 100 mf shield on switch?

Xenon[XoA]
20-08-2006, 02:06
the mf shield/weaps on switch are really not that great an idea. Why spend so much on a mf character, if the whole point of it is to find wealth? the difference will not be overly noticeable, and to use 10 ists worth on a switch, is 10 more ists worth youll hafta find until you break even on what you put into the char.

Uchiha Sasuke
20-08-2006, 02:08
']the mf shield/weaps on switch are really not that great an idea. Why spend so much on a mf character, if the whole point of it is to find wealth? the difference will not be overly noticeable, and to use 10 ists worth on a switch, is 10 more ists worth youll hafta find until you break even on what you put into the char.
Sheet... you're right.
Then just cta on switch.... and i'll use isted occy. =O

lagalot
20-08-2006, 02:34
Monkey have you maxed out all the synergies for lightning?Iirc you should be doing more than 15k dmg.

Billweed
20-08-2006, 02:49
Did you check out the stats on the full set?
It is nice but imo you sacrifice more than its worth especially in mf.

The 3 Piece Tals is quite nice though. You can use 3 pieces with a swap out of other stuff to play to different needs quite easily. I tend to build Archangels (3 tree pointers) rather than going the 1 skill tree route so that I don't have to remake games and can duel more easily, plus as a person that started out with Fantasy RPG rolling dice with paper and pen I like to be able to have a image of the Char in my mind just on a enjoyment of game level and 1 type CC builds just don't do that for me

Billweed
20-08-2006, 02:54
']the mf shield/weaps on switch are really not that great an idea. Why spend so much on a mf character, if the whole point of it is to find wealth? the difference will not be overly noticeable, and to use 10 ists worth on a switch, is 10 more ists worth youll hafta find until you break even on what you put into the char.

MF Switch and Hork (FI) everything with Isted Alis and/or HeartCarver works Nicely.

lagalot
20-08-2006, 02:58
MF Switch and Hork (FI) everything with Isted Alis and/or HeartCarver works Nicely.

It works well for a barbarian...dont know about a lightning sorceress though:wink:

Uchiha Sasuke
20-08-2006, 03:21
Monkey have you maxed out all the synergies for lightning?Iirc you should be doing more than 15k dmg.
All but nova... Could that be why its only 11k? =O

lagalot
20-08-2006, 04:08
Could well be.. nova adds another 8% per lvl to lightning and 4% per lvl to cs.
Also I assume your lightning mastery is maxed?
I think the max damge on lightning is around 20k actually.Not sure now I know my sorc on non ladder does just under 40k with 9 skiller anni and torch and shes not quite finished .Still have around 6 points to add to cs.

Uchiha Sasuke
20-08-2006, 17:57
Could well be.. nova adds another 8% per lvl to lightning and 4% per lvl to cs.
Also I assume your lightning mastery is maxed?
I think the max damge on lightning is around 20k actually.Not sure now I know my sorc on non ladder does just under 40k with 9 skiller anni and torch and shes not quite finished .Still have around 6 points to add to cs.
Lightning mastery is maxed... So nova is probably why she dosn't do dmg... back to baaling. =O

So.... what about res and mf? Just get an isted occy and torch/anni and just um a everything?

seralph
20-08-2006, 19:17
Use hoto and sanctuary, with anni, torch and anja quest's this will give u 130 – 172 resist to all depending on stats. Fill up resists with for eg.: mara or charms.

Now u have 40fcr / 11fpc next breakpoint is 65fcr / 10fpc. If you think it's a must to get 65 than wear arachnid mesh and a rare ring with 5fcr and nice mods. If u can get a griffon it's a good altenative: 25 fcr and a nice boost for your lightning dmg.

The remaining slots u can fill with mf gear. eg.: wartraveler, chance guards, nagelring, goldwrap, topaz' shako, enigma(nice armor anyway for your build). ~ 300mf

for another 150-200 mf give your merc stealskull(topaz'ed) and a skullders ire and let him make last hit

You need no nova for getting 15k dmg, some plus skills and +%lightning dmg gear is enough to reach nearby 20k

seralph

lagalot
21-08-2006, 18:48
Lightning mastery is maxed... So nova is probably why she dosn't do dmg... back to baaling. =O

So.... what about res and mf? Just get an isted occy and torch/anni and just um a everything?

Yea thats the way Id go.If you dont need to um the tals and shako use tal ral thul or ort for the resist your lacking in.Its a much cheaper alternative you can always hel them later.Two ums could be spent chasing some 7mf/resist scs:rolleyes: