bowzon midlevel(30) pvp

[WarlockCC]

Now before you start off with a "it will not work" or "you cannot" reply, try to think constructively and help me make this zon the best she can be.

Having aquired a rather nice 20ias goth with good physical damage, I've started wondering if I could use this on a level 30 pvp zon.
The normal attack breakpoints are at :
IAS fpa
11 % 13
22 % 12
35 % 11
56 % 10
89 % 9

Strafe bps lie at :
IAS fpa
0 % 4
11 % 3
120 % 2

Even with this, my zon will be doing about 25 pvp damage (sad, I know, but zons are cursed this way in 1.1x) I should be able to compensate this a little with CB. My zon would almost be condemned to use gobs even though those would make my zon slow like a rockstar on his way to Betty Ford.
I might be able to drudge up some 9 dex rares with 30frw, perhaps even 10fhr and then just use rattlecage. Dunno about the levelreq of 9 dex boots though. Anybody ?

And, while we're on the subject, is using Slow Missiles considered Bad Manners(BM as they seem to call it on other parts of the forum).
For instance Necro's BoneSpirit is horrebly overpowered in pvp, so would it be BM to slow them spirits down to a crawl ?

Skillwise... I have looked at several options. I can get strafe up to level 7 at charlevel 30, GA can be at level 13.

Gearwise, as you can see from the bp tables, I'll need an extra 36 ias on top of the bows 20 to get the 10 fpa bp.
So, Twitch and deaths ? Twitch and Iratha's (this might leave me without cbf). Or Twitch, 3 Iratha's and Deaths sash ?
The latter would beget me the 20frw bonus from Iratha's, which would be very welcome to outrun things, especially since I would have to use Gobs to do any damage.
Using rattle is an option, but I would go down one bp from missing the twitch.

Using at least 1 source which gives 20 ias is something I consider a must, it gives 2 bp's better.

I guess Bonnet is a must.

What about rings though. Some SoJs wouldn't really help that much with the damage. Some res rings ? 9 dex (max at level 30 iirc) and some other mods rings ?

What I'm asking is not weather or not it's completely pointless to try, but rather some thoughts in this direction. What might help her damage.

And should I be going for other skills ? mebbe fire or ice instead ? Though for Ice I would be more inclined to use a Wiz.

[Monzee]

As a matter of fact I recently managed to get my hands on some very nice heavy boots :D

Spirit Slippers
Heavy Boots
req lvl 29
defense 6

+30% frw
+5 dex
+30% CR
+30% FR
+5% PR :azn:
half freeze duration

And seing how im most likely about to quit the game for a year from now I might donate you these if you want them :wink3:

[goomba]

What might help her damage.


a "maxed" chantress in the party?

:laugh:

I also find your note about "bad manners" amusing. One of the reasons I historically never had much interest in duelling is that EVERYONE who duels displays bad manners.

if it's private duelling with friends, then that's usually done with the mindset of having fun with each other by exploiting various different builds/attributes

altho I once witnessed some amusement when a certain member here with a new LLD (low teens) took on some partied folks in their 30s, not only got all of their ears, but NK'ed them and made a handy sum of gold to xfer for some gambling with a higher character :laugh:

[fledgeling]

use boneflesh armor
open wounds will do more damage than your physical damage
open wounds does pretty nice damage when the levels are similar, that's how most of my LLDs harm you :-)


maybe cleglaw's gloves + howltusk (I think it knocks enemies back?)

[fledgeling]

I think you had a nice +1 gothic (10ias?) with 140max damage?

skip the resists, really
you only need CR because frozen orb cannot be slowed down (it will hit you)
fireballs - and - bonespirits can be dodged
not sure about lightning :D

use boneflesh + goblins, maybe iratha's for resists and IAS

one frame less = not a big difference (unless you have a doublebow and plan to knockback your 0FHR enemy to death)
open wounds = damage


sorry for double post

[WarlockCC]

As a matter of fact I recently managed to get my hands on some very nice heavy boots :D

Spirit Slippers
Heavy Boots
req lvl 29
defense 6

+30% frw
+5 dex
+30% CR
+30% FR
+5% PR :azn:
half freeze duration

And seing how im most likely about to quit the game for a year from now I might donate you these if you want them :wink3:
I would certainly be able to use them on her if I go the rattle way, so yes, I am interested. :)
You will keep your account refreshed, right ? It would be a shame to lose all your work and it's good to have something to come back to.

Fledgeling > which of your chars that I have seen has OW then ?
Oh, and I had a nice duel with Angel_Latino's pike charger, like me, he doesn't pot at all, no juv/health/thawing/antidote or mana.

Oh, and this is a different bow, I'll show it to you some time.
Having calced it, the arrows will do 6-80 pvp damage without any of the elemental damage calced in.
OW will do :
Clvl=16-30: (18*Clvl-104)/256

1.703125 per frame, for 25 frames, for 8 seconds, which equals a total of 340.625 damage if the full 8 seconds are enjoyed.
Indeed OW is something to look into, cause even at those relatively low levels it does considerable damage.

For that extra bp I would get 1.89 extra arrows per 8 seconds. It might just be enough to keep them locked though.

I'll need to dig trough my chars to see if I still have a Deaths set somewhere.

[quadeddie]

As a matter of fact I recently managed to get my hands on some very nice heavy boots :D

Spirit Slippers
Heavy Boots
req lvl 29
defense 6

+30% frw
+5 dex
+30% CR
+30% FR
+5% PR :azn:
half freeze duration

And seing how im most likely about to quit the game for a year from now I might donate you these if you want them :wink3:

This reminds me of a pair of boots I found last night...

Havoc Blazer
Boots
Reqired Level: 18
Defense: 5

+20% frw
+34% Enhanced Defense
+3 dex
+39% CR
+29% FR
half freeze duration

I've NEVER seen CR that high on a pair of boots (but of course, I'm a noob). It's cool, cause it turned them a fun steel-blue color. Now if they were only 30% frw and ED was something else... (but I wonder if that would up the Required Level quite a bit though..?)

[WarlockCC]

30 frw will raise their level req to 29 iirc.
If you need 30frw at lower levels, Threads of C'thon are your only option in classic.
Or get the 3 set Iratha's bonus of 20frw. :)

[fledgeling]

most of my LLDs have 50% open wounds
5-9 damage is not enough ;D

the damage is always nice
340 life seems not much (45 life per second?)
but notice that level 30s wont have THAT much life
and 45 life/sec is near your average damage?


latino is a noob, he uses hacks (farcast hack for example, he ALWAYS hits) + maphack, scanns the characters, like for example he flamed me for random reasons and after scanning my crap MF barb (120dex, crushing blow gear) he brought his BvB - he run away with his "level 70 PK barb".. LOL

[Amaruak]

Gobs and Boneflesh sounds interesting.

[Zodijackyl]

Now before you start off with a "it will not work" or "you cannot" reply, try to think constructively and help me make this zon the best she can be.

95str 118dex req on Gothic bow, You'll have 29 level ups with 5stats each, and 3 stat quests if you're hell rushed, giving you a grand total of 160 stat points to add to the zon's base 20str and 25dex. 75str and 93 dex, or 65/83 with twitch, leaving you with a wonderful 12 points to add to vitality. Irathas can give you 25dex, or you can use a 3soc helm with rubies, but you're still going to have hardly any life, and anyone who manages to hit you will kill you fast enough. One whirlwind from any barb, one or two hits from a level 12ish charger, or one from a higher one, quickly to a smiter... you'll be unable to avoid bone spirits, blizzards, orbs, or much of anything else.

I recommend using either a -req gothic bow or a rune bow if you make an LLD bowazon, because this weapon is simply not suited to the build.

[Dwade]

Never tried this before but i heard Rogues bow works nice with gtoes and some form of knockback,(cleg gloves or howltusk). The attack speed is insane, and the lower reqs allow for much more vit, but the downside is u have to use mana pots, which some people consider "BM".