Orb sorc? Whut? lol also: Fathom

[Dystopianday]

So I was in a nm Baal game with this one rude fellow and he claimed to be making an orb sorc. So naturally I asked him if he was orb/fire or orb/light, but he said he was maxing orb and... ice bolt, it's only synergy.

So I was like "Whut?" and explained to him he would get pwned 7 ways to Sunday in hell, but he claimed that his (non-infinity) merc could take care of the cold immunes, which is pretty retarded, and that his friend had a orb sorc who did 1500 damage, which sounded interesting, because I love my orbs. One click and whole rooms in Norm and NM die hideously in orgasms of ice cubes, wishing that they'd messed with a lightning sorc instead so that their moms would have something to bury. And 1500 damage sounded viable in hell.

But messing around with the skill calculator, even with Fathom and facets, I can't see orb possibly going above 1000 damage. Was this kid just stupid? He sounded pretty convinced.

Which brings me to my second question, just how hard is it to get a Fathom? I rarely see them traded.

[sirwhere]

They drop once every blue moon and are pretty ok items. Consequently, are worth a few ists.

[Xenon[XoA]]

I've had orb past 1.7k, its not really viable pvm, lots of immunes, but it's ok for pvp. Blizzard's generally better though (pvp) as it's less easily negated.

Check the price value forums if you want a specific answer, but generally they can get quite expensive, for 28%s+ base. Ethereal also increases the price tag, for coolness points.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7739/screenshot012fe6.jpg
Missing 1 gc too xD

[Noite Escura]

Fathom+Maras+Nightwings+Arach+SoJs+Anni+Torch+CtA= 15 skills
+ 9 cold skillers = 24 to cold skills
level 44 Orb fully sinergized Orb -> 863-900 damage
Perf Fathom+perf Ormus+Perf Nightwings+4 perf Facets= 80% more Cold Damage -> 1620 Max Orb Damage
You can switch Maras to a + 3 cold skill and throw Viscerataunt Shield or Spirit and make it even higher.

[Epsilon Eyez]

WHOA

I thought 600 damage was godly.

[PhatTrumpet]

600 is... pretty good... for a dual-element Sorc.

Click me. (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=467243)

[Noite Escura]

Don't forget that even with fully synergized Orb youy still get 25-30 spare points to invest in a backup skill. So, suppose you get a +3 Firewall in that Ormus, 20 FW + 5 Mastery = level 38 Firewall + 25 Mastery -> 8000+ Damage.
You wouldn't really rely only on your merc for CIs

[Moon]

I have an orber that does 1521 orb dmg with 10.4k blizz. she's lvl 97 uses p nw, p coh, 34% fathom, arach belt, soj, bk, 35% spirit shield, mara's ammy, 8x 20 life sc and 9x cold gc. she has 6bo cta and spirit on switch. orb and blizz skill lvl is 48. so...yes it is possible to have over 1k orb...

as for cold immunes, merc handles them fairly well. he uses eth andy's, eth fort and an ebotd. he does 6.5k dmg.

[MuhammadJihad]

im 100% sure the guy you met wasnt trying to pvm hell with the sorc

its for dueling.

fathoms are ez to get, just watch out for duped ones

moon,
duel my blizz v blizz?

[wvvw]

how come ppl dont use fathoms for non-cold sorcs? Is it just b/c of the low fcr?

[Evrae Altana]

how come ppl dont use fathoms for non-cold sorcs? Is it just b/c of the low fcr?Because Fathom doesn't really offer much more than cheaper orbs for non-cold sorcs. Fathom was made for sorceresses that specializes in cold skills. For fire and light sorcs, there are much better weapons for them.

[conor rocks]

Eshutas is like fanthom for fire lite sorces.

[malakho]

ya...and eschutas is cheaper (as far as i've found)

occys is even cheaper...if you can deal with the tele (nasty in HC)
and Iget orbs from anya that have decent stats on them...all easier access than the deaths.