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Demek
14-08-2006, 20:14
i decided to start ladder (useast), and want to make only one char there - pure blizz
20 blizz and each of synergies, 17 CM (or less depending on my final equip), 1warmth, telekinesis, teleport and frozen armor, no static
my concern is proper equipment, and stats, after encountering problems with my orber on NL
since i will need to do hell cs to lvl up i will probably end up seal popper, or will have to squelsh my team :P, so
fcr 70 (shard +magefists),
next frame is 105 and is beyond me (as far as i know shard 50, mgfists 20, eyeless 20 + 2 10fcr rings/amu, i would never use eyeless in hell because of crappy block rate and no res)
i know fhr and res is a must, but i am really at a loss what should i choose, like twitch + ward ?, or find myself some nice mage plate + prismatic/res deflecting shield?
i think i shouldn't worry about mana regen since i will be gulping potions anyway, so how much energy i would need ? like 50 or 75 ?
anything else i should take into account ? i would be grateful for positive input

Byaxident
14-08-2006, 20:43
Ideally, all vitality would be best. However, depending on your gear, that might force you to pot A LOT. So unless you want to eventually turn her into an end all be all pvp sorc, you should indeed consider putting some points in energy.
Usually, when I make a pvm sorc I decide how mana energy points shes going to need based on one criterion. If she can tele to cs using only one supermana potion, she has enough energy (and her belt has only 2 rows). Depending on your gear, the amount of energy you will need to tele to and in cs will vary. I personally like to keep it as low as possible while not having to pot excessively.

70 fcr is all you need. As you said, 110 fcr with eyeless is not viable in hell cs. Another possibility to get 70 fcr is 20 fcr wand(with nice resists and ene/mana ideally) + magefists + 2 fcr rings and an fcr ammy. Using a wand allows you to avoid putting stat points in dex in order to use shard, which means more vitality. Of course, since this is going to be your first ladder char, youre probably not going to have the necesary gear to go down that route so shard might be the best option.

Twitch + res shield is cheap and a good option for the block. A mage with fhr/life/nice resists + a 17/30/20 priz shield would be better but obviously much more expensive. As for the shield itself, ward can be good but the strenght requirement is pretty high which means less vit once again. It is good to start with especially since you most likely wont be able to get a priz socketed shield immediately. In the long run, youre going to want to look for one of those though. IMO grim shields or -req tower shields are the way to go.

good luck.

Akukami
14-08-2006, 21:26
Get your Cold Armor off a Staff. You can easily shop them from Hell Drognan in Act 2.

- Akukami

Demek
14-08-2006, 22:53
ill be going shard+twitch+ward route then, thank u
50 str + twitch
n another 16 dex hmm .. i'll see if i find any rares with +dex
i do not think using staff is viable, i mean i tele in a cowd and ..

norvi11erogers
14-08-2006, 23:13
ill be going shard+twitch+ward route then, thank u
50 str + twitch
n another 16 dex hmm .. i'll see if i find any rares with +dex
i do not think using staff is viable, i mean i tele in a cowd and ..

he means as a prebuff.

quadeddie
14-08-2006, 23:53
he means as a prebuff.

I actually had never considered that... shopping a staff to get you shiver, then whipping it out every so often to reshield. I'm guessing something like a +2 / +3 armor staff with +2 ammy, that's about 200 seconds of armor. Not bad.

Locke07
15-08-2006, 02:50
Instead of using Ward I would just rather use a 3 socket Large with 3 P dimonds along with twitch blocking should be fine!

Demek
15-08-2006, 04:13
it's 14 % lesser chance to block .. for about 10 % res, which can be easily replaced
i already have 50 str anyway, the sorc is lvl 27 now cowing

Demek
18-08-2006, 02:02
ok, i got almost all uniques i wanted, aside ward (thx byaxident), and have enough i think to find myself some decent rares (2 blinkbats, gull, twitch, mfists and sback for trade)
is bb worth decent 17/30/20 prism ? or more ?
the same for mageplate

goomba
18-08-2006, 14:25
is bb worth decent 17/30/20 prism ? or more ?
the same for mageplate

"decent" vs. good may be the difference here. But I've seen desparate people pay a soj for a 17/30/20 prismatic grim with stacked resists (clean, no socket)

one can argue quite a bit about whether said individual was in complete control of their faculties.

that being said, I have a 30/20 19 prismatic spiked shield that was shopped (note the lack of fhr) :laugh:

quadeddie
18-08-2006, 19:52
"decent" vs. good may be the difference here. But I've seen desparate people pay a soj for a 17/30/20 prismatic grim with stacked resists (clean, no socket)

one can argue quite a bit about whether said individual was in complete control of their faculties.

that being said, I have a 30/20 19 prismatic spiked shield that was shopped (note the lack of fhr) :laugh:

Goomba... I've seen a lot of people talk about shopping things... I assume that means buying off of npcs (and not gambling). What's the best way to shop? How do you get their inventory to reset?

goomba
18-08-2006, 20:56
Goomba... I've seen a lot of people talk about shopping things... I assume that means buying off of npcs (and not gambling). What's the best way to shop? How do you get their inventory to reset?

I shopped mine from drognan (act 2) in a hell cs game with my lvl 90 din, whilst waiting for the sorc to get BO'ed and teleport into the CS.

I haven't ever "shopped" in the sense of trying to get their inventory to reset, but I usually check at a minimum jamella/ormus/drognan on almost every game I join for fun shields like this, or a shopped pally sceptre. I have a shopped +2/fcr one that I'm using now since my ammy isn't fcr, and the 10 on the sceptre, plus magefist, and two rings helps me reach one of the breakpoints.

if my ammy had fcr, I'd have kept the spare sceptre I had that was +2 pally/+2 bh, but since it only did 900 more dmg, it simply wasn't fast enough for my mode/style of playing. as it was, that shopped/spare sceptre which didn't cost me much to buy, fetched me a gull.

*Shrug*

Rawly
18-08-2006, 22:43
Goomba... I've seen a lot of people talk about shopping things... I assume that means buying off of npcs (and not gambling). What's the best way to shop? How do you get their inventory to reset?

To reset the inventory you need to leave town in that act either by way point or by walking out the gate, so if your shopping for scepters/staffs/ and 30/20 prisma bone shields go to act 2 when the gate is next to drognan so you can quickly walk out of town and back in so the shop keepers inventory is rerolled. (note if the gate is not in the right place just remake until it is)

It can be quicker to set a red cow portal next to shop keeper in act 1 but that requires a bit of effort.

Also you dont have to be in hell mode to get higher items once you reach nightmare all shop keepers stock is based on your character level. I find shopping in act 2 nightmare is best for pala scepters as you can actually tell from looking which ones are +2 pala as they have a green tinge (unless they have posion damage which gives the same effect) this can save alot of time as you dont have to look at the stats on each item. Obviously 30/20 prisma bone/grim shields are purple. +2 sorc staffs are green. Although this is not fail safe as some modes take priority for colour over those i have mentioned, these are more likely.