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snowBlizz
12-08-2006, 10:51
as u probably have seen on the topic name i am new on this forum...
so something i should know about this forum??
then i will apreciate if u tell it here ;)
thx
HAMC8112
12-08-2006, 10:54
so something i should know about this forum?
Make some posts, people here will tell you all you need to know! And than some. You will soon find out.
(Welcome) :D (/Welcome)
WildBerry
12-08-2006, 11:24
Welcome snowBlizz.
I suggest you frequent the OTF FAQ (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=130584) in order to avoid misunderstandings. But you don't have to. We all get misunderstood here anyway, with or without the FAQ.
Jump on in.
snowBlizz
12-08-2006, 11:30
thx for the very fast reply both :D
Ah, you're from Norway. Didn't a survey conclude they were the happiest people of any country?
I saw one that said they had the highest rate of affirmative responses to the question "have you ever had or have you ever wanted to have sex with a child?". But I think all that proves is that you should never pay any attention to surveys...
Anyway, welcome aboard.
Ah, you're from Norway. Didn't a survey conclude they were the happiest people of any country?
*Bangs his anti-EU drum*
Ah, you're from Norway. Didn't a survey conclude they were the happiest people of any country?
They are all commies anyway. They have to play happy or the government sends them to trondheim (Norways siberia)
Evil evil Norwegians.
They are all commies anyway. They have to play happy or the government sends them to trondheim (Norways siberia)
Evil evil Norwegians.
I'm also interested in the relations between Sweden and Norway, and maybe Finland. I was reading a Heinlen (sic?) book and a Swedish woman ended up in an alternate dimension where Sweden and Norway were one country and it disgusted her. Or something like that.
snowBlizz
12-08-2006, 15:17
in last year norway was most happy did a test show hehe ;)
hmm hard question u have there merick...
we have good relations to sweden, and maybe finland yes, and denmark to..
it was a little hard questions for me...
norwegian, danish and swedish language are almost the same language but only some word is different...
i hope i answered ur question but i am not sure :P
plz ask again if i didnt :P
norwegian, danish and swedish language are almost the same language but only some word is different...
Norwegian and Swedish are pretty close. if Swedish = English then Norwegian = rastafarian english.
And Danish......well that is like comparing english to german.
Welcome! Hope you manage to have some fun...
snowBlizz
12-08-2006, 15:53
u talk about lannguage now johnny??
denmark and norway has almost the same writing language so pretty close language, but we think swedish is easyer to listen on...
*Bangs his anti-EU drum*
*steals drum*
*beats drum in a taunting manner*
*steals drum*
*beats drum in a taunting manner*
*Sulks* :hanky:
Welcome to the forum. We like to have a lot of fun here in the OTF (at least I do) so prepare for some interesting and wacky topics along with the usual mix of crazy political threads, vs. threads, and the latest craze of "is ____ a sport" thread.
Something you should know are:
don't participate in political threads if you don't like to piss people off
dondrei is quickly becoming the local spammer along with being known as the self-proclaimed English Nazi
KOW will tell you all you need to know about Macs
There are like 4 girls total that frequent this forum and they are all cool
Don't let the geezers scare you...most of the time you just give them a few nice comments and they'll leave you alone.
This is a very tighly knit commuity, and hopefully you will fit right in :)
{KOW}Spazed
12-08-2006, 19:39
Well you forgot some cardinal rules. Guard your pants and protect the throat.
*Punches snowBlizz in the throat* *Steals his pants and runs off giggling*
There, now you're official.
Evrae Altana
12-08-2006, 20:05
I saw one that said they had the highest rate of affirmative responses to the question "have you ever had or have you ever wanted to have sex with a child?".Where do you find this stuff dondrei? :shocked:
Dj_Otaku
12-08-2006, 21:16
Hey. Welcome to the OTF enjoy your stay and all that crap...
Dj_Otaku
Dawnmaster
12-08-2006, 22:20
Well you forgot some cardinal rules. Guard your pants and protect the throat.
*Punches snowBlizz in the throat* *Steals his pants and runs off giggling*
There, now you're official.
Incase snowBlizz doesn't understand why we steal people's pants: http://www.verysmallarray.com/?p=60 :rolleyes:
Pants are evil!!! (you get punched in the throat once because you wore pants)
superdave
13-08-2006, 00:40
looks like someone already pants the new guy.
*steals his wallet and runs away giggling like a schoolgirl.
A word of advice: If you abbreviate 3-letter words (you, are, etc), I will hold you in contempt. Welcome to the OTF, however.
WildBerry
13-08-2006, 09:09
Norwegian and Swedish are pretty close. if Swedish = English then Norwegian = rastafarian english.
To a foreigner the example might be enlightening but in general terms it's misleading - Norway is nothing like Jamaican Creole in it's birth, nor does it have many words born of a certain world of view like the creole does. They are both, however, relatively new languages (or all three; bokmal and nynorsk, were they what Norwegians have to deal with?), even though Old Norse has it's roots going very deep.
Bad analogy - other than that as with the Jamaicans, you might have to ask to hear each sentence again with a Norwegian:wink3:
I'm also interested in the relations between Sweden and Norway, and maybe Finland.
They don't let us play in their Scandinavia (to which we Finns don't fit by geography and even cultural inclusion is painfully long a shot) games and we try to artificially include ourselves via semantics (we the geographical group Norden or Pohjola) because we think they are teh c00l. More on Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia).
Sing Maamme for us, Wildberry.
Drosselmeier
13-08-2006, 12:02
They don't let us play in their Scandinavia (to which we Finns don't fit by geography and even cultural inclusion is painfully long a shot) games and we try to artificially include ourselves via semantics (we the geographical group Norden or Pohjola) because we think they are teh c00l. More on Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia).
We Swedes talk more often about "Norden" than Scandinavia. We have a long history in the east of course, and I don't know if Denmark and Norway are as eager to include Finland in our little group. Aside from your crazy language and weird national myths I think we're fairly alike and more closely related than many countries that are more ethnically close.
denmark and norway has almost the same writing language so pretty close language, but we think swedish is easyer to listen on...
This is correct. When written, Danish and Norwegian (one of the variants, bokmål I think) are very similar. You hav a more Swedish (more correct) pronounciation than the silly Danes though. It's much easier for us Swedes to understand you Norwegians than it is to understand the Danes.
A thousand years ago they were all the same language with some minor differences depending on where the speaker came from. They've developed side by side and that's why they all have more in common with each other than Old Norse or Icelandic. A linguist I know claimed that had Scandinavia been one country with one government we would consider Danish, Norwegian and Swedish dialects instead of languages. The differences have been used as a tool throughout history by those who wanted to strengthen the ideas of the three countries as separate nations. That's more of an artificial and political divide than a cultural one though.
Anyway, welcome to the OTF. :wave:
They don't let us play in their Scandinavia
Thats because we are waiting for Russia to reabsorb you and make you a part of Asia where you really bellong.
Any day now.....
Drosselmeier
13-08-2006, 12:28
Thats because we are waiting for Russia to reabsorb you and make you a part of Asia where you really bellong.
Any day now.....
Pfft!
Finland is in our sphere of influence. Russia needs to stay the **** OUT!
Russia invading Finland is one of the few things that would have me up in arms and demanding a war.
WildBerry
13-08-2006, 12:53
We Swedes talk more often about "Norden" than Scandinavia. We have a long history in the east of course, and I don't know if Denmark and Norway are as eager to include Finland in our little group. Aside from your crazy language and weird national myths I think we're fairly alike and more closely related than many countries that are more ethnically close.
Awww. Thanks. Then again, we sort of came up with the need for epicness, greatness and myths as a way to find nationhood from you. Look on götan brand of historiography that placed Atlantis in Sweden and was pretty sure Amazons lived around Skåne.
A linguist I know claimed that had Scandinavia been one country with one government we would consider Danish, Norwegian and Swedish dialects instead of languages.
Of which we of course have you Swedish boat-rockers to blame. :hide:
Thats because we are waiting for Russia to reabsorb you and make you a part of Asia where you really bellong.
Ol' Volodja (Vladimir Zhirinovsky) who last recited that there is a genuine need to reannex Finland has not been quite up to this aim lately. I think you're in for a long wait.
"Belonging to Asia" or not has been somewhat touchy issue for the Finns of the last century.
Sing Maamme for us, Wildberry.
I sung quite a bit, then I realised no-one of you people hears me. Regrettably, I don't own a microphone - then again, it probably spares a great many of you from a great deal of misery Even if I stayed in key, you probably wouldn't have any idea as to what am I singing about. What's pretty in the lyrics is they're originally written in Swedish - Vårt land and the tune is a German traditional. Gogo independence!
How did you come up with this? Prior Finnish acquaintances?
Russia invading Finland is one of the few things that would have me up in arms and demanding a war.
Given your prior thoughts on the Winter War I expected as much of you - then again, knowing your dislike for the military I am surprised that you actually went and said it. What makes you think that? The power disparity - i.e. David and Goliath all over again - or some, previously mentioned, kinship you might feel with us?
Oh by the way, Dross, nyckelharpa is positively the coolest instrument ever.
Where do you find this stuff dondrei? :shocked:
I can't remember with that one, I think it was in a newspaper or magazine.
dondrei is quickly becoming the local spammer along with being known as the self-proclaimed English Nazi
Well, I didn't proclaim it - everyone said it and eventually I accepted the diadem that was handed to me.
HAMC8112
13-08-2006, 13:00
Well, I didn't proclaim it - everyone said it and eventually I accepted the diadem that was handed to me.
Diadem? It is more of a black cap, it comes with a deathhead.
Edit: Hey, come to think of it, we wear the same stuff man. You know, deatheads. You on your nazi hat and i on my back.
Diadem? It is more of a black cap, it comes with a deathhead.
I was referencing Antony offering a diadem to Julius Caesar, I didn't think anyone would get it though.
Edit: Hey, come to think of it, we wear the same stuff man. You know, deatheads. You on your nazi hat and i on my back.
I always wondered what they were thinking putting that little skull up there. How about a badge that says "Hi! We're evil!" too?
Welcome SnowBlizz! I hope you´ll have just as much fun here as the rest of us :smiley:
Incase snowBlizz doesn't understand why we steal people's pants: http://www.verysmallarray.com/?p=60
OMG... is it really that serious? I never knew... I'll take my pants off immediately... I'm sorry for keeping them on that long.. please forgive me.
I sung quite a bit, then I realised no-one of you people hears me. Regrettably, I don't own a microphone - then again, it probably spares a great many of you from a great deal of misery Even if I stayed in key, you probably wouldn't have any idea as to what am I singing about. What's pretty in the lyrics is they're originally written in Swedish - Vårt land and the tune is a German traditional. Gogo independence!
How did you come up with this? Prior Finnish acquaintances?
I don't know. One of many useless bits of information laying in wait inside my skull.
Drosselmeier
13-08-2006, 14:31
Given your prior thoughts on the Winter War I expected as much of you - then again, knowing your dislike for the military I am surprised that you actually went and said it. What makes you think that? The power disparity - i.e. David and Goliath all over again - or some, previously mentioned, kinship you might feel with us?
Oh by the way, Dross, nyckelharpa is positively the coolest instrument ever.
1. Kinship. We have a looooong shared history and a fairly heavy cultural exchange during that history.
2. The Swedish-speakers of Finland and the Finns in Sweden.
3. You Finns are the only soldiers in the world that nobody would ever be ashamed of fighting beside. You've already fought the Red Army to a standstill once.
4. I suffer from russophobia. If you go we could be next.
5. A need to prove that we're not the sissies you think we are.
6. I like Finns and Finland. :smiley:
And, yes... nyckelharpa - the original keytar. :laugh:
Nyckelharpa (http://www.peterhedlund.com/harpa-pix.jpg)=keytar (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/ogeskimo/keytar.jpg)
3.You've already fought the Red Army to a standstill once.
Was that before or after Finland surrendered to all of Stalins demands?
Drosselmeier
13-08-2006, 14:49
Was that before or after Finland surrendered to all of Stalins demands?
In conjunction I believe. I'm sure it was long before the Russians marched into Helsinki since that didn't happen.
EDIT: Compare that to the Danish version of fighting back, i.e. giving the occupying Germans angry looks behind their backs.
Detritus
13-08-2006, 15:17
Why, thanks all to hell, Dross.
Now, if a Dane might add a few words:
1: The Capital of Scandinavia is, was and always will be Copenhagen. Deal with it.
2: The Finns slaughtered THREE Russian Divisions, whilst drinking Vodka.
3: The Swedes were neutral, and suffered a complete lack of ANYTHING with alcohol in it.
4: Norway is an old colony of ours, the south of Sweden is another old colony...The only difference is the fact that the first 5 letters are colon. Wait a minute..No difference, then
5: I don't know what I'm going on about here, except that I would like to say:
HI!
Drosselmeier
13-08-2006, 16:04
Why, thanks all to hell, Dross.
[...]
3: The Swedes were neutral
So it's not exactly hard for you to mock me right out of orbit in return. :wink3:
In conjunction I believe. I'm sure it was long before the Russians marched into Helsinki since that didn't happen.
Well thier goal wasnt to take over the country. It was to take the Finnish part of Karelia, a part Salla, four islands in the Gulf, the Hanko Peninsula and the Kalastajansaarento peninsula.
These demands where handed to Finland before the war and where ofcourse refused but after many fights and although the Finns killed 10 russians per fin killed. In a % ratio the Russians where still winning which was inevitable from the start and Finland in the end signed the peace treaty giving Stalin everthing he from the start had demanded.
superdave
13-08-2006, 16:38
Welcome SnowBlizz! I hope you´ll have just as much fun here as the rest of us :smiley:
OMG... is it really that serious? I never knew... I'll take my pants off immediately... I'm sorry for keeping them on that long.. please forgive me.
does this mean that we will be treated to a new pantsless tar when you ditch the muppet one? :cloud9:
Drosselmeier
13-08-2006, 17:43
Well thier goal wasnt to take over the country. It was to take the Finnish part of Karelia, a part Salla, four islands in the Gulf, the Hanko Peninsula and the Kalastajansaarento peninsula.
These demands where handed to Finland before the war and where ofcourse refused but after many fights and although the Finns killed 10 russians per fin killed. In a % ratio the Russians where still winning which was inevitable from the start and Finland in the end signed the peace treaty giving Stalin everthing he from the start had demanded.
So?
They didn't like the Soviets' demands, gambled and failed. Could have been much worse. The Soviets stuck to their original demands when they could have threatened to continue the war if the Finns didn't surrender unconditionally. They realized they might not be able to finish the war before thtings got messed up politically so they offered peace instead of going for total victory.
A conditional surrender, or a mutually wished for peace for that matter, isn't exactly the most crushing form of defeat. Sure, the Finns had to make concessions, but compare that to what happened to other countries at war with the USSR at or around that time. In how many other conflicts between '39 and '45 did the Soviets settle for a tenth of their opponents territory? The Finns were the only ones fighting against an allied power that wasn't beaten into unconditional surrender and occupation. They even got some of the territory the Russians had captured back.
They didn't like the Soviets' demands, gambled and failed. Could have been much worse. The Soviets stuck to their original demands when they could have threatened to continue the war if the Finns didn't surrender unconditionally. They realized they might not be able to finish the war before thtings got messed up politically so they offered peace instead of going for total victory.
Right the Soviets where scared by the might of the fins and settled for merely "Everything they ever wanted" instead of "Everything the fins had"
Why, thanks all to hell, Dross.
Now, if a Dane might add a few words:
1: The Capital of Scandinavia is, was and always will be Copenhagen. Deal with it.
2: The Finns slaughtered THREE Russian Divisions, whilst drinking Vodka.
3: The Swedes were neutral, and suffered a complete lack of ANYTHING with alcohol in it.
4: Norway is an old colony of ours, the south of Sweden is another old colony...The only difference is the fact that the first 5 letters are colon. Wait a minute..No difference, then
5: I don't know what I'm going on about here, except that I would like to say:
HI!
This is more in response to the poster than the post itself...HOLY CRAP!
Join date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2
I commend you, king of all lurkers.
does this mean that we will be treated to a new pantsless tar when you ditch the muppet one?
I hope so...down with pants!
*But sport shorts don't count right?*
WildBerry
13-08-2006, 19:51
Well thier goal wasnt to take over the country. It was to take the Finnish part of Karelia, a part Salla, four islands in the Gulf, the Hanko Peninsula and the Kalastajansaarento peninsula.
These were more extensive than the original demands in terms of area. Your list resembles more the peace accords of the Moscow peace.
The original demands consisted of Hanko Peninsula given to Russians for military base, Finnish Gulf archipelago, the aforementioned Kalastajasaarento and less of the Karelian Isthmus than was given in the end or demanded in the Moscow peace. Salla and Kuusamo concessions were not even there.
However, seeing what handing out ground for military bases did to Baltic states, the bitter-bought peace might've been a victory in the end for the Finland, albeit a Pyrrhean one. The point you are missing is that Stalin's pronounced demands did not equal what he carried out, as demonstrated in Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia. In the captured columns there was so much brass band material that it's unbelievable - then aim of original demands as well as the war was occupation of Finland. You put it quite aptly, Stalin settled for what he originally demanded on paper in stead of all he could've had had he persistently kept sending more divisions. Albeit I'm not going to beat drum on it very much in my classes - there is little to be proud of in the way of war, in my opinion - Dross is right in the sense that in terms of conventional warfare grinding the Red Army to a halt, even temporary one, has not been performed by many, more so without foreign assistance - yeah yeah, 8.000 Swedes volunteered, but of them two battallions actually made it to the front - and with a military too poor to supply all it's soldiers with personal sidearm.
And as you see, snowBlizz, if you're still following, OTF does pretty decent a job at hijacking threads :laugh:
Drosselmeier
13-08-2006, 20:05
Right the Soviets where scared by the might of the fins and settled for merely "Everything they ever wanted" instead of "Everything the fins had"
They were scared of other states getting involved if they couldn't finish the war quickly enough, which they couldn't. That's the bottom line here. They would have taken "Everything the fins had [sic]" had they been able, but at the time they didn't think it was worth it given the risk of potential conflict with other western nations. For an example of what could have happened had the Soviets been able to take their time, see East Prussia. You don't think the Soviets gave relatively preferential treatment to the Finns because they liked them for some reason, do you?
*Falls asleep to the peculiar sound of arguing Scandinavians*
rplusplus
14-08-2006, 03:47
so something i should know about this forum??
then i will apreciate if u tell it here ;)
thx
Yes...
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And...
1337 5p3Ak is teh Forbidden! kkthxbai!
<<<Oh yea and I am one of them gezzers you were warned about. :badteeth:
*Gives atomic wedgie and walks away with removed waistband*
Yarr++
And as you see, snowBlizz, if you're still following, OTF does pretty decent a job at hijacking threads :laugh:
Oh please. This thread would have died on day one if we didnt pick it up and carry it
Keldaris
14-08-2006, 06:27
Oh please. This thread would have died on day one if we didnt pick it up and carry it
same can be said about most threads.....
WildBerry
14-08-2006, 06:46
Oh please. This thread would have died on day one if we didnt pick it up and carry it
More like taken it behind the shack, knocked it dead, buried it six feet deep, replaced it with a guy that looks totally different and is a full foot taller and thus has to hold a cloak in front of his face for the rest of the thread's lifespan so that no-one would take notice.
But yeah, other than that you're probably right. Greeting people gets stale after a while. But now Winter War...
Sir EvilFreeSmeg
14-08-2006, 06:53
so something i should know about this forum??
I"m the reigning ultra conservative and rabble rouser. Feel free to hate me immediately, I expect it. If not, you will by the end of Monday.
More like taken it behind the shack, knocked it dead, buried it six feet deep, replaced it with a guy that looks totally different and is a full foot taller and thus has to hold a cloak in front of his face for the rest of the thread's lifespan so that no-one would take notice.
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