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Jenius
12-08-2006, 00:07
I recently created a bonemancer for dueling because looking over his skills, he seems to fit the bill for what I like in my characters (namely, really good tele spam) and I've found that so long as I play right, I can beat nearly every other character I run into, if all else fails I can always resort to tele teeth spam.

However, windies I fail against. I just cant seem to damage them through their stacked minions and eventually I eat one hurricane plink too many and keel over, occasionally I get a nice bonespear or two directly into them, but generally speaking I just get my *** handed to me.

If anyone could post videos or something of a skilled nec vs a skilled windy, I'd be much obliged because I'd really like to see how that match is actually won.

StillGreen
12-08-2006, 01:22
I don't have any videos so all I can give is my experience.

Most windy's that I fought tele on top of me and fire tornados. I find running/walking is much more effective than tele'ing away. You're not trying to get away completely, just a small distance. You'll be surprised at how much tornados will miss you. From there you can let off some high speed (125 fcr) bone spears at them. If they have bad fhr, this will usually finish them. If not, then teleport away after you cast a few. Then repeat the process.

This isn't always guaranteed as I still lose. However, I am able to kill more windy's using this method. Also for some reason, I find this method more effective when the druid uses wolves instead of a bear.

Junglejunkie can vouch for this as I duelled his windy a bunch of times.

edit: Also wear an SS to make those tornados hurt less and having 86 fhr also helps.

Jenius
12-08-2006, 01:25
The tornados arnt the problem, considering I've had both hammerdins and sorces try to tele close/on me and spam once they realized I was playing keep away, I know I can get away fast enough teleporting, the problem is they just keep tele-ing, I cant really hit them significantly through their minions, and all they hafta do is tele near me enough times for hurricane to pick me off.

Generally speaking, I'm not sure I've ever eaten a nado when I had my corpse, it's the undodgeable area attack that I cant seem to beat.

arbing
12-08-2006, 03:49
bone spear bypass minions.

Jenius
12-08-2006, 06:53
Well duh, I'm pretty sure the majority of people know that, but that doesn't really help the situation. Yes bonespears can get him, but when he simply teles on you and forces you to tele/run away, there's no real oportunity to hit him without a more or less completey luck based prediction shot.

nickedoff
12-08-2006, 15:16
Eh, I've never got the Just Walk Away thing to work. I stay on his edges and IBS him after knocking out whatever summons he's got with teeth.

StillGreen
12-08-2006, 20:19
It should be hard for someone to catch you unless they namelock-tele. In which case they will be right on top of you. Of the windys that I've fought, they keep spamming tornadoes as long as I don't tele away or run too far. I usually walk about 3/4 the distance between them and where their tornados disappear. Then it becomes a direct spamming battle.

If they are a bit more defensive, where they only fire a few tornadoes before re-teleing, then you just have to improve your spear sniping. This type of duel will always be hard (I hope you're not looking for some easy solution because there are none). You have to rely on predicting their movements (If you can deal with sorcs, you should be able to do something similar with windys).

Teeth also pierces through minions so tele+teeth spam also works if you're patient enough.

Think of windys as a natural enemy: they have advantages so you have to outplay them to win.

Jenius
12-08-2006, 21:47
I've never ever ever seen a windie stand still for any longer than I do (see never) so I'm not sure who you play against but the only spears one can fire off are prediction shots, and a prediction shot witha staight shooting non tracking projetile isn't probably going to hit often even with insane skills (of which I do not posess regardless).

Teeth spam doesn't seem to work because I think they must have less peircing power or something, because I've nailed a minion stackd druid more times than I can count and still died with their lifebar full. Even picked off some of their wolfies with no luck.

@nick doen't he just resummon? The duel wouldn't be very hard if he has no minions, those are more or less the tricky part.

Oh and still green, it's actually a lot easier than you probably think it is to tele on someone even sans a namelock, just think of the teleporting windie as a projetile that moves extremly fast, you've probably tried to blast plenty of sorc'es letting off an fball or two with a spear right? Well rather than shoot a spear, they tele over, ergo when I've fought the good ones pretty much the second I stopped to cast a spell (if they were close enough) I get chipped with a hurricane, rinse and repeat and eventually it does kill me.