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blackshift
11-08-2006, 01:27
I fallowed kingdryland's smiter guide and now have a lvl 86 pally. king sugests grief, I have one, but it does not do much dmg, smide does very little dmg. I was hoping someone could explain this too me and tell me were I'm going wrong.

here is my set up.
(ns) = not sockedted

Helm:Blackhorns face (265/206%)
Weapon1: eth botd zerker (530/500%)
Weapon2: Grief (zerker) 383 dmg
Armor: CoH
Shild: Exile
Ammy: Highlords wrath
Ring1: high raven frost
Ring2: carrong wind
Gloves: craculs grasp
Boots: gorerider
Belt: tGodz

Invitory:
Anni charm
pTorch
100-130 psn dmg over 5-8 sec sc (x8)
other resists/life/ar sc's


BOTD:
zeal: 7.8k
smite: 1.9k

Grief:
zeal: 2.6k
smite: 1.9k

I dont see why grief is so great, and y smite dmg is so little.

help?

:listen:

hardnfast
11-08-2006, 01:49
The character screen doesn't display the damage correctly and as I understand it ed% weapon damage doesn't add to smite damage. (grief + damage is added to the base shield damage)

Thoridian
11-08-2006, 01:56
even +340dmg Grief is better than Ebotd BA 415% so lol, how come grief does less dmg ?

Also Grief is THE only smiter weapon.

Bjam
11-08-2006, 02:01
Everyone freaks out when they first equip Grief, because it doesn't look right in the character screen. Don't worry; go forth into battle and you will behold the goodness that is Grief. You are actually doing more Zeal damage than with your ebotdz and WAY more Smite damage (more than 3 times what is displayed).

iliketoplaydiabloalot
11-08-2006, 02:23
Also, those poison charms dont work with smite I believe, so their a waste of space.

safetypro
11-08-2006, 17:52
If I may also suggest substituting Blackhorns face for Guillaume's face. The Guill's and Gores together will give you a total of 50% CB that will really help take large life chunks those first few hits. Add a nice 15% IAS/ED jewel in the Guill's to make it even better.

blackshift
11-08-2006, 21:22
thanks everyone, I tried it and it works really well =)


I was looking for that helm but no one seems to want to trade one, no one games into the game.

can you tell me what its worth, btw?

galin
11-08-2006, 23:04
Guillaume's Face should cost you no more than a Lem (usually < 10 pgems). Go to the trade forums I'm sure there are a few up for sale.

Yossarian
12-08-2006, 17:46
even +340dmg Grief is better than Ebotd BA 415% so lol, how come grief does less dmg ?

Also Grief is THE only smiter weapon.

Exactly. I recently rolled a perfect ebotdz and was jazzed as I was planning on making it my primary weapon regardless of the role. I got a mid lv grief (unexpectedly) the same day from some guy desperate for a Lo rune. I was over 10,000 damage with the botd and was owning all monsters. Put on the Grief to check it out and 5 minutes later decided to sell the botd.

Blongxia
12-08-2006, 21:04
Last wish PB isnt that bad either for boss killing/ubers

Jackson
12-08-2006, 23:40
Not bad, however, grief is still better, considering if you're wearing Guillaume's, and gore riders already.

Bladewind
13-08-2006, 00:12
Last Wish is more for style points. Since its nice stats will let you free up massive amounts of space for equipment freedom.

NarmoTheArapino
13-08-2006, 02:34
Grief > EBOTD.

In fact, I will never touch an EBOTD again. I was quite surprised that mine poofed, and it wasn't even perfect.