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Gluttony
10-08-2006, 03:46
Hi, allow me to introduce myself. I am an old veteran from the diablo 2 community. I began playing as soon as diablo 2 was released and up to patch 1.09. The entire time I have played various necromancer builds and it has always been my favorite class. Unfortunately, other things got in the way of my play time such as: my fiance, family, sickness, and of course work. My brother has set aside necromancer gear in hopes that I'd return to the scene so I'm going to be able to start the game with some pretty good gear.
White wand
Shako
Enigma
Trang gloves
Humonculous
Silkweave
2 sojs
enigma
Maras
And arachnid mesh
I have never played a venomancer but have tried out all the other builds. I helped this same person create a very good pvp summon mancer. My goal is strictly for pvp and was wondering if this setup will be pretty good until I can get some other items of my choice. I'm thinking of Death Web and Darkforce spawn (Both with poison facets. As well as my Shako). For starters what points should I put into my skills? I already know where I'm going to allocate my stat points but I don't know where to place them for skills. Also, about how much damage will I do with this setup and will it be enough to destroy other players until I can get the other items and GC's? Thank you for all who respond and glad to be with you all again. :)
HarbingersOfSkulls
10-08-2006, 04:42
Hi, allow me to introduce myself. I am an old veteran from the diablo 2 community. I began playing as soon as diablo 2 was released and up to patch 1.09. The entire time I have played various necromancer builds and it has always been my favorite class. Unfortunately, other things got in the way of my play time such as: my fiance, family, sickness, and of course work. My brother has set aside necromancer gear in hopes that I'd return to the scene so I'm going to be able to start the game with some pretty good gear.
White wand
Shako
Enigma
Trang gloves
Humonculous
Silkweave
2 sojs
enigma
Maras
And arachnid mesh
I have never played a venomancer but have tried out all the other builds. I helped this same person create a very good pvp summon mancer. My goal is strictly for pvp and was wondering if this setup will be pretty good until I can get some other items of my choice. I'm thinking of Death Web and Darkforce spawn (Both with poison facets. As well as my Shako). For starters what points should I put into my skills? I already know where I'm going to allocate my stat points but I don't know where to place them for skills. Also, about how much damage will I do with this setup and will it be enough to destroy other players until I can get the other items and GC's? Thank you for all who respond and glad to be with you all again. :)
PD
PE
PN
*obviously all maxxed
All curses leading to LR- 1 point
All golems/golem mastery/summon resist- 1 point
*Reason being is after you use LR and PN on the enemy it brings them down to 1 life most of the time...that leaves you with a few different ways to take care of that 1 life...either cast the fire golem near them...use another PN are 2 different ways.
The remaining points you can either invest into skeleton mastery and go with either skeletons or revives...or use on other B/P skills like bone wall/bone spear/bone spirit/bone prison.
HoS
Gluttony
10-08-2006, 05:06
PD
PE
PN
*obviously all maxxed
All curses leading to LR- 1 point
All golems/golem mastery/summon resist- 1 point
*Reason being is after you use LR and PN on the enemy it brings them down to 1 life most of the time...that leaves you with a few different ways to take care of that 1 life...either cast the fire golem near them...use another PN are 2 different ways.
The remaining points you can either invest into skeleton mastery and go with either skeletons or revives...or use on other B/P skills like bone wall/bone spear/bone spirit/bone prison.
HoS
Thanks. So is my gear pretty good to start with? Also about how much damage will I be doing with it? Is it good enough to beat players or do I need even better or a different setup? Thanks for the reply.
HarbingersOfSkulls
10-08-2006, 14:56
Thanks. So is my gear pretty good to start with? Also about how much damage will I be doing with it? Is it good enough to beat players or do I need even better or a different setup? Thanks for the reply.
It's a better than average start for one equipment wise...but you will have to get a death web to replace the white wand...and you'll see the difference between the two really easy.
You'll also need to get some P/B grand charms as well...hopefully with a 2ndary stat on them otherwise just a plain grand charm will work to start with...as well as getting a necro torch and anni.
HoS
Gluttony
10-08-2006, 19:38
It's a better than average start for one equipment wise...but you will have to get a death web to replace the white wand...and you'll see the difference between the two really easy.
You'll also need to get some P/B grand charms as well...hopefully with a 2ndary stat on them otherwise just a plain grand charm will work to start with...as well as getting a necro torch and anni.
HoS
Cool, thanks. I do plan to fill my inventory with P/B charms alongside a torch and annihilus when I get some stuff to trade. With this setup about how much damage will I do?
JettJagwar
10-08-2006, 20:41
your gear should yield @ 8.5k novas. you may want to consider trang belt and shield instead of arachnid mesh and homunculous, 3 piece trangs gives 25% bonus to poison damage and fire walls for any poison immunes you cant break.
HarbingersOfSkulls
10-08-2006, 20:42
Cool, thanks. I do plan to fill my inventory with P/B charms alongside a torch and annihilus when I get some stuff to trade. With this setup about how much damage will I do?
Mine with the following equipment:
Shako with a 5/5 poison facet
death web with a 5/5 poison facet
engima
trangs claws/belt/head with a 5/5 poison facet
marrowalks (ya I know the bug don't work)
2 x soj
mara's
(9) p/b grand charms
necro torch
anni
I get about 10k damage
HoS
Gluttony
10-08-2006, 21:16
Mine with the following equipment:
Shako with a 5/5 poison facet
death web with a 5/5 poison facet
engima
trangs claws/belt/head with a 5/5 poison facet
marrowalks (ya I know the bug don't work)
2 x soj
mara's
(9) p/b grand charms
necro torch
anni
I get about 10k damage
HoS
Alright, cool. I'll work on getting death web and try the three piece trang setup. For pvp I might not go for the 3 piece trangs because I lose some other good stats and some FCR but I'll try it out and see how that works. I'll also try to get some poison facets. Question, what is more beneficial to work on first? Getting psn and bone charms filled up? Or going for death web first? Thank you so much for all the advice and feeback :D
MaG_Thunder
10-08-2006, 22:12
i like to keep a wizzy (or hoto) on hand for when i duel sorcs just to get the 75 fcr and the resists but otherwise deaths web is great
Mad Mantis
11-08-2006, 12:58
Question, what is more beneficial to work on first? Getting psn and bone charms filled up? Or going for death web first?
D-web. The -%Enemy Poison Resist is the best way to boost damage.
Gluttony
11-08-2006, 13:33
D-web. The -%Enemy Poison Resist is the best way to boost damage.
Thank you mad mantis. :smiley: You've all been very helpful.
JettJagwar
11-08-2006, 16:43
poison is fun and often underestimated. your pvm needs and pvp necessities may be at odds with each other. I throw 10k novas with 50% bramble but that drops to about 8.7k when I switch to enigma... and everyone will tell you not to pvp without teleport. I have cta on switch for pvm but wizzy is a better choice for pvp as stated.
Gluttony
11-08-2006, 20:20
poison is fun and often underestimated. your pvm needs and pvp necessities may be at odds with each other. I throw 10k novas with 50% bramble but that drops to about 8.7k when I switch to enigma... and everyone will tell you not to pvp without teleport. I have cta on switch for pvm but wizzy is a better choice for pvp as stated.
Thank you for the advice. I'm going to go Bramble and 3 piece trang for pve. I prefer Hoto over wizardspike because it has better stats and a very good FCR. Eventually I plan to get deathweb's though.
Gluttony
11-08-2006, 23:40
Maybe trade off that second Enigma for a low Death's Web, considering that isn't a typo. DW gets a bit pricy, so watch out!
*Hipknowsis
Oh, didn't notice that typo. Yeah, I know that DW is pricy but I'll deal with that when the time comes. Thanks for the advice. :smiley:
Hipknowsis
11-08-2006, 23:52
Maybe trade off that second Enigma for a low Death's Web, considering that isn't a typo. DW gets a bit pricy, so watch out!
*Hipknowsis
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