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Beltyn
02-08-2006, 14:12
Yes I know I'm being hopeful that there actually will be one, let alone soon, but what do you have in mind to make?


I'm thinking a cleric just for fun. If am joined up with all the initial running to get through things, imagine could make nice chunk of friends, particularly with playing hc :cool:

Rawly
02-08-2006, 14:18
Yes I know I'm being hopeful that there actually will be one, let alone soon, but what do you have in mind to make?


I'm thinking a cleric just for fun. If am joined up with all the initial running to get through things, imagine could make nice chunk of friends, particularly with playing hc :cool:

would like to have a run at HC top 16 in europe with a hammerdin but not sure i got the time :sad2:

Beltyn
02-08-2006, 14:34
Boo Hammerdins!

:flip: Hope they get nerfed like crazy :flip:

Rawly
02-08-2006, 15:17
Boo Hammerdins!

:flip: Hope they get nerfed like crazy :flip:

If you want to be at the top and not leach off other ppl to be there than it is the only choice imho. I suppose a bliz sorc is almost as good but if you dont have a hammerdin in your group you're severely compromised.
I used to always play a Bo baba to start a ladder but there is only so much sitting around one person can do, and i cant stand slow ppl in cs shouting reBO reBO all the time.

If you just want to play for fun (which is something i find difficult) then a support char is ok but you need someone to kill stuff, and hammerdin does it the best.

Noite Escura
02-08-2006, 17:42
I'm thinking of a summoner

bojddo
02-08-2006, 17:50
Probably an avenger. Who doesn't love conviction?

Creon
02-08-2006, 18:39
The same thing I always make first on a restart. Orb Sorcie. Everyone loves the teleporter, and level 20 Static for group play speeds things up.

Rawly
02-08-2006, 21:11
The same thing I always make first on a restart. Orb Sorcie. Everyone loves the teleporter, and level 20 Static for group play speeds things up.

Actually thinking about it the last two times i restarted i made an enchantress as my first character with a little bit of orb so she can rush ppl through normal and nightmare.

Akukami
03-08-2006, 05:01
MF Barb, Defense BvB, Xploder.

- Akukami

Locke07
03-08-2006, 17:31
MF Barb and then working on pally to get on ladder I hope!

goomba
03-08-2006, 18:24
hammerdin, and possibly a blizzer/static sorc.

I'll prolly get a baba to high 60s with a couple of bo sticks but other than having him around to bo for private cs runs/raids (when I'm using dual pcs) I probably won't use him for much more than muling.

a high powered bone nec sounds fun (I've never taken a bone necro over mid 70s) but I have already promised some individuals that I'd be "the cs din".

the harder part for me, will be coming up with a name... still mulling that over a bit.

Zodijackyl
04-08-2006, 07:20
hammerdin, and possibly a blizzer/static sorc.

I'll prolly get a baba to high 60s with a couple of bo sticks but other than having him around to bo for private cs runs/raids (when I'm using dual pcs) I probably won't use him for much more than muling.

a high powered bone nec sounds fun (I've never taken a bone necro over mid 70s) but I have already promised some individuals that I'd be "the cs din".

the harder part for me, will be coming up with a name... still mulling that over a bit.

We'll have a bone nec next lad, #1 from ls1 too ^_^ He should be going for a nice high level (93 92 91 90 in the past)

I'll be making a blizzer day 1, and making pretty much any char I'll need after. Hdin, BvB, MF Barb, orber, fballer, foher, etc. not in that order.

Akukami
04-08-2006, 07:27
...blizzer/static sorc....

Why....:sad2:

- Akukami

goomba
04-08-2006, 13:50
Why....:sad2:

- Akukami

so I can remake piggy, and do it proper? (define proper, I'll probably be true to myself and **** something up, like putting a couple into another element for deseis, or wearing a gskin :p )

I may do a fire/static sorc though instead. dunno. regardless I'm not sure that a Din can capture my attention for the entire season. no question, I volunteered for being the "workhorse" cs-din for the gang, and when everyone is on, that is the role I intend to keep/maintain

but, ladder seasons are pretty long, if I got a din to lvl 89 1/2 in a few weeks, I'm going to need to have another char that I have in the past enjoyed playing to mix it up a bit, at least if/when you guys aren't on. (being a teleporter/seal popper I have found to be quite fun in the past, even with my enchantress... hrm there's a thought)

don't worry, I'm not looking to steal your thunder :p

I self rushed the din to hell act3 with the lvl 6x baba... and it was much more of a chore than rushing with piggy on NL

Akukami
04-08-2006, 14:56
so I can remake piggy, and do it proper? (define proper, I'll probably be true to myself and **** something up, like putting a couple into another element for deseis, or wearing a gskin :p )

I may do a fire/static sorc though instead. dunno. regardless I'm not sure that a Din can capture my attention for the entire season. no question, I volunteered for being the "workhorse" cs-din for the gang, and when everyone is on, that is the role I intend to keep/maintain

but, ladder seasons are pretty long, if I got a din to lvl 89 1/2 in a few weeks, I'm going to need to have another char that I have in the past enjoyed playing to mix it up a bit, at least if/when you guys aren't on. (being a teleporter/seal popper I have found to be quite fun in the past, even with my enchantress... hrm there's a thought)

don't worry, I'm not looking to steal your thunder :p

I self rushed the din to hell act3 with the lvl 6x baba... and it was much more of a chore than rushing with piggy on NL

But why Static? If you really wanted to go that route, make it to 94 and put the extra two points into Warmth THEN Static. :grin:

Honestly, you're better off going pure Blizz. Since you have two comps, you can do your raids with a BO and finish off cold Munes with your MF Barb - Leveling + MFing in the same game! I picked up a few nice items doing this, and it would be so much better if I was still a Lady/Lord.

And one more thing, what do you mean "steal my thunder?" It'd be nice to add another Pure (Vita!) Blizzer to the family. :grin:

- Akukami

goomba
04-08-2006, 17:09
But why Static? If you really wanted to go that route, make it to 94 and put the extra two points into Warmth THEN Static. :grin:

Honestly, you're better off going pure Blizz. Since you have two comps, you can do your raids with a BO and finish off cold Munes with your MF Barb - Leveling + MFing in the same game! I picked up a few nice items doing this, and it would be so much better if I was still a Lady/Lord.

And one more thing, what do you mean "steal my thunder?" It'd be nice to add another Pure (Vita!) Blizzer to the family. :grin:

- Akukami

while I messed up the warmth on my blizzer, one point in static never hurt anything :p which is what I meant by blizz/static build.

and you know I'll never be "pure" anything... ;) my 89 din is as close to a vita din as I've ever gotten, and even he only has 415 or so vitality

that din shield was pretty heavy, but with a little twinking on the gear he can wear the dreaded gskin, and then put on that +2/fcr dual resist din ammy and up the damage a bit vs. the prismatic +1 that he's currently wearing. (might be able to then scrounge up a tarn as well, and up the damage even more)

^_^

9900 hammers, with a +1 ammy, and no tarn isn't that bad I guess, but more damage, and being able to survive a LowerResist Curse around infector, and/or him spawning conviction during a solo raid, without emtpying an entire belt of full juvs would also be nice :)

Zodijackyl
06-08-2006, 22:31
Pure vita pure damage blizzer owns.

20 Ice Bolt
20 Ice Blast
20 Glacial Spike
20 Blizzard
20 Cold Mastery
1 Frost Nova
1 Telekinesis
1 Teleport

480 Vitality

Godly blizz sorc level 92 :)

DougDadyUsWest
07-08-2006, 01:57
I think I'll start off the season the way I always do, with a skeletons nec. They run through norm/nightmare so fast, and are really safe/fun to play at the start of ladder. Usually by the time I reach hell mode I'll have found twitch/3sok diamonds and be able to start up a din at that point.

Don't think I will go wild on this ladder. Might have my streak of lv 92+ hc ladder chars broken. oh well :undecided:

Noite Escura
07-08-2006, 18:28
That's what I thought also. And you can level further in 8P games using curses/CE.

OneFromBeyond
08-08-2006, 00:18
I am going to go for just four characters in the new ladder (yeah right), and only one in Classic. I think a Singer, although I have wanted to play a Healer for a while too.

*OneFromBeyond

LizAngel
08-08-2006, 12:44
Pure vita pure damage blizzer owns.

20 Ice Bolt
20 Ice Blast
20 Glacial Spike
20 Blizzard
20 Cold Mastery
1 Frost Nova
1 Telekinesis
1 Teleport

480 Vitality

Godly blizz sorc level 92 :)

Don't you have to drink a lot of mana pots this way?

goomba
08-08-2006, 13:01
Don't you have to drink a lot of mana pots this way?

without a BO, early on, yes.

later, with higher levels, and especially with a BO, not so much.

solo/No-BO, my lvl 89 blizzer has to take one mana pot just to teleport in from river to Chaos Sanct.

IF I have a BO, I can teleport to river, send TP from star/ring, drop a couple of blzzards on ring/star whilst the slow pokes finally hit my TP, and get BO, and still beat most folks to the infector seal to pop it with telekenesis before having to hit that first mana pot.

in CS runs, super mana pots drop like flies from the bad guys. with telekinesis, you don't even need to go near them to retrieve them...

for solo mini raids, I prefer to use a 4 row belt. first column full juvs, 2nd column super healths, 3rd, and 4th columns super mana pots.

my blizzard isn't quite as powerful as Zod's build, due to 10 or so accidentally misallocated points into warmth, as well as a few more into str than I should have (With gear, I can wear gskin). so, my mana consumption is also higher, cause I have to cast a bit more to drop the bad guys (also perhaps a style of play issue, I spam spike/bolt like a fiend in between dropping freezing rain)

LizAngel
08-08-2006, 13:12
Oke, I like the sound of that. I usually put some points in warmth and energy as well, but I think I will try this build as well and go pure vita. Thanks for the clear explanation!

goomba
08-08-2006, 13:34
Oke, I like the sound of that. I usually put some points in warmth and energy as well, but I think I will try this build as well and go pure vita. Thanks for the clear explanation!

the only time I had ever put points into warmth, was on my chanter (I've never made an fballer)

it was purely accidental on my part, and I already had her deep into the 60s, had already deleted my orber, which I had used to self rush her, and didn't feel like remaking.

in retro spect, knowing that I will eventually make another/better blizzer, perhaps on ladder next season, I should have just gotten it over with and remade her. she's lvl 89 now, and until I have another one past her, I cant' bare to delete her.

I guess I'm sentimental like that, I still have my very first character... a lvl 80 summoner, that is strong enough to wearn an ornate, and has virtually every skill on the tree, aside from the poison nova series/synergies :laugh:

early on, I mistakenly thought that def was important in terms of not dying...

it was also during the days of hell cows = massive exp, so I just cursed, sploded, and leached in cow runs

he makes for a neat mule tho, aside from inventory, there's pretty much nothing he can't actually wear, meaning I have more spots to store stuff :laugh:

Akukami
09-08-2006, 00:06
she's lvl 89 now, and until I have another one past her, I cant' bare to delete her.


I'll do it for you just like I did to Tundra. :flip:

- Akukami

Rawly
09-08-2006, 10:53
Pure vita pure damage blizzer owns.

20 Ice Bolt
20 Ice Blast
20 Glacial Spike
20 Blizzard
20 Cold Mastery
1 Frost Nova
1 Telekinesis
1 Teleport

480 Vitality

Godly blizz sorc level 92 :)
I would lose 2 points from this build and put one in cold armour and one in static. Finish at lv 94 ;)

Amaruak
09-08-2006, 11:40
Well, depending on how my test bowazon turns out at higher lvls I will be making a bowazon. If she doesnt do too good (as I suspect) then I might not bother, or make a sorc of some sort because Hammerdins bore me to hell.

Rawly
09-08-2006, 11:50
Well, depending on how my test bowazon turns out at higher lvls I will be making a bowazon. If she doesnt do too good (as I suspect) then I might not bother, or make a sorc of some sort because Hammerdins bore me to hell.

Hammerdins may bore but they are the best end game character by far and to be honest after 2000-3000 cs runs on any character they all become a bit boring better to have one that doesnt die and lose like 400 runs.

Beltyn
09-08-2006, 12:45
Sorry to disappoint, but bowas really do suck once it comes to hell.

Had one with 13x damage ias gothic, 20 guided and high multi.

Took about 15 guideds to drop a zombie in act 1 hell.

Unless you know you can play with friends who ideally will ocnsist of one conc and one fana pala, they really are just there for novelty value.

Amaruak
09-08-2006, 13:05
oh well.

I'm giving it a try anyway with fredsta54's glass cannon build but with biggens as my helm. I like bowazons though, it's a shame they suck now :(

WarlockCC
09-08-2006, 13:19
You could at least give it a go... why give up before you actually tried it yourself.
Some people compare every build to a hammerdin and find it 'lacking'.
If everybody just thought "mebbe this won't cut it in Hell" and stopped that build there would only be hammerdins and cold sorcs.
Don't conform to their norm, just have fun.

Gobs on a zon can make up for a lot.

Amaruak
09-08-2006, 16:06
I havn't got into Hell yet but I'm really having fun in nm doing 400 dmg strafe (not maxed) with 1 point in freezing arrow to stop them cold ;/ (hur hur)

WarlockCC
09-08-2006, 16:25
I kinda misread your last post, thought it said you where holding a give-away of your Glass Cannon zon.

As long as you have crushing blow, you should be hell-viable.

goomba
09-08-2006, 18:52
I'll do it for you just like I did to Tundra. :flip:

- Akukami

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you'd toss my 6 socket naga too tho >< and all those 6 socket exes that goomba has :shocked: :laugh: :laugh:

Beltyn
10-08-2006, 00:09
SC with high dex and CB items might work bettter.

Mine was HC, couldn't go crazy on dex and gear :undecided:

Akukami
10-08-2006, 14:54
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you'd toss my 6 socket naga too tho >< and all those 6 socket exes that goomba has :shocked: :laugh: :laugh:

Yup, I'll sell to Akara and gamble the gold. :grin:

- Akukami

Zodijackyl
11-08-2006, 05:13
Don't you have to drink a lot of mana pots this way?

Nope, my gear gives me enough mana, only one SOJ btw.

I would lose 2 points from this build and put one in cold armour and one in static. Finish at lv 94 ;)

Well I wouldn't, cold armor is a waste and I have no need for static. My level 92 sorc is a perfect build, and it works great.

Rawly
11-08-2006, 11:35
Well I wouldn't, cold armor is a waste and I have no need for static. My level 92 sorc is a perfect build, and it works great.

Problem with lv 92 sorc is it shows little ambition with a point in cold armour (very useful imho) and one in static (again useful). You can aim for lv 94 as finish instead of getting to 92 and thinking your perfect :tongue:

Akukami
11-08-2006, 22:07
Problem with lv 92 sorc is it shows little ambition with a point in cold armour (very useful imho) and one in static (again useful). You can aim for lv 94 as finish instead of getting to 92 and thinking your perfect :tongue:

There are more imporant things to be ambitious about than playing this game. If you want 94, by all means, waste your time getting those two extra points.

- Akukami

Locke07
11-08-2006, 22:44
I find cold armor kind of a waste, but I do like having static on my blizz sorc just because I often find myself being the only sorc in CS runs and the static makes killing Diablo quicker. Sometimes I also use to quicken my meph runs.