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I plan on making a foh dueler and ive come to some decision on what gear ill need and the stats my friend told me.
Skill points:
20 Foh
20 Holy shock
20 Vigor
20 Holy bolt
Stat points:
100 strength (For silks)
55 dexterity (For shark)
70-100 energy?
All vitality
Gear:
Tarn
Silks
+2 priz ammy
+2 priz shield or Steelclash if i cant find a priz
Manald heal or Fcr rings?
Tearhaunches
Magefists
Shard
Bladebuckle
i dont know if there is a better belt, i was also thinking maybe gorefoot instead of tearhaunch.
Gear:
Tarn
Silks
+2 priz ammy
+2 priz shield or Steelclash if i cant find a priz
Manald heal or Fcr rings?
Tearhaunches
Magefists
Shard
Bladebuckle
i dont know if there is a better belt, i was also thinking maybe gorefoot instead of tearhaunch.
As far as im aware FoH is a timed spell so shard will make no difference to your casting speed so there is no need you would be better off with a +2 scepter.
Rings go for resists and str so you can go as low natural str as possible. Bladebuckle is not that useful a rare with 2/3 of the following is better, fhr,str,life,resists
also i dont think holy bolt makes much difference to FoH as it is the lightning bolt that does the damage, probably better off investing in holy shield, oh and you must max conviction ofc otherwise ppl will laugh at your lightning damage.
Alright, it wont be complete until 70-80 correct?
So no holy bolt, max shield or just 10 or so? And max conviction/vigor.
Alright, it wont be complete until 70-80 correct?
So no holy bolt, max shield or just 10 or so? And max conviction/vigor.
you must max Foh and holy shock
some ppl max conviction but is only necessary when you come up against another FoH pala as the higher level conviction will negate the other persons conviction for everyone else you get no benefit past lv 25 or something.
that is only about 60 skill points and your damage is done
so put some in holy shield can be maxed if you plan on killing melee chars as well.
dont need vigor as you can use charge bug to charge around but if you find this difficult (which you shouldnt) then by all means put some here not alot else to be said.
At level 79 my foh will kill anyone really quickly that doesnt stack lr resists.
Alright, Conviction/vigor/fist/shock and some to shield + charge. Ive got maxxed foh already.
you could toss a couple into holy bolt, after the other synergies/holy shield are done if you wanted to assist in cs runs by being a mini healer as well. (that would also mean a point into each of "helper" spells like salvation as well to help dins tank infector if they get cursed with lower resist and/or at the same time that infector spawns with conviction.
if there are blizzers, or other elmentalists in your cs party, they will love the effects of your conviction as well.
as was already mentioned, you don't want shard, you want an ias +2 sceptre (shop one if nothing else) or even better a +2 ias cutlass - ias is your friends, so ias resisty gloves would be in order I would think.
duels are over in a matter of 1 or 2 hits vs each other these days, so I would go nearly base energy personally. (redeem in cs runs if you're casting any foh in there)
gosunoob
28-07-2006, 20:37
-_- i hate fohers....everyone hates fohers
if u wanna fun dueilng char that acctually needs skill make a blizz sorc or hammerdin. barbs are fun u dont rly need skill in bvb though.
To begin with, FCR does NOT, repeat, NOT affect FoH. Yes, it's a spell, but it's affected by IAS, so get rid of Magefist, Shard, and FCR Rings. Replace with a +2 Pally IAS Wep such as a Gladius, Frostburn (to start out with), and Res Rings. I'm not too crazy about Silks on and FoHer, so you might want to change to GSkin, or a FHR + Life + Resists Armor.
For your attribute points, forget about adding any to Dex or Energy, and put it all into Vita after you reach your Str Reqs.
For skills, I don't know why you would max Holy Bolt since it's a PvP FoHer, but you will want to consider dumping the rest of your points into Holy Shield for blocking.
- Akukami
To begin with, FCR does NOT, repeat, NOT affect FoH. Yes, it's a spell, but it's affected by IAS, so get rid of Magefist, Shard, and FCR Rings. Replace with a +2 Pally IAS Wep such as a Gladius, Frostburn (to start out with), and Res Rings. I'm not too crazy about Silks on and FoHer, so you might want to change to GSkin, or a FHR + Life + Resists Armor.
For your attribute points, forget about adding any to Dex or Energy, and put it all into Vita after you reach your Str Reqs.
For skills, I don't know why you would max Holy Bolt since it's a PvP FoHer, but you will want to consider dumping the rest of your points into Holy Shield for blocking.
- Akukami
Why does IAS effect FoH when it is subject to a casting delay which cant be effected by anything.
Some skills have a Casting Delay. A Casting Delay is a period of time after a player has cast a spell during which the player cannot re-cast that spell. For example, after casting Blizzard you must wait a few seconds before you're able to cast another one. The delay differs between skills. Not all skills have a Casting Delay. There is nothing you can do to reduce or eliminate the Casting Delay. If the Skill Action Button becomes red after casting a spell and you have enough Mana to cast it, this means the Casting Delay is active. This is done to prevent slow down of graphical performance and to avoid abusive use of the skills.
That's a nice tidbit from the D2 site, but once again, it doesn't even have to do with casting delay because it is not a spell like FBall, or even Hammers that is affected by FCR. You're giving the right answer to the wrong question. The issue at hand here is damage, and since FoH is not affected by FCR, mentioning FCR on a PvP FoHer is irrelevant.
What is important to understand is that FoH's damage is affected by IAS and AR (forgot to mention that), and of course, + Skills.
- Akukami
1.10 patch notes
- Fist of the Heavens - Ignores resistances of Undead and Demons. Added
skill synergy bonuses.
1.08 patch notes
- Added a casting delay for Fist of Heavens and increased its damage.
Arreat Summit specifically says the skill has a casting delay of 1 seconds, so you can never cast it more often, whether you have FCR or IAS. How does IAS and AR effect Fist of the Heavens damage?
That's a nice tidbit from the D2 site, but once again, it doesn't even have to do with casting delay because it is not a spell like FBall, or even Hammers that is affected by FCR. You're giving the right answer to the wrong question. The issue at hand here is damage, and since FoH is not affected by FCR, mentioning FCR on a PvP FoHer is irrelevant.
What is important to understand is that FoH's damage is affected by IAS and AR (forgot to mention that), and of course, + Skills.
- Akukami
If you read my original post in this thread you would have seen that i already pointed out the FoH is not effected by FCR. What i was trying to point out to you is that FoH is a spell though like blizzard or FO that is on a timer that is fix regardless of IAS or AR, timer spells attack frequency are not increased by IAS just as they are not increase by FCR because they are on a fixed timer, and they always hit so AR is also irrelavent.
fredsta54
31-07-2006, 23:09
55 dex for shark? shark... not ringing a bell... well if its 51 dex for shard remake.
silks is rubbish for an foher too, not worth the strength
good fohers like base str/dex with huge resists, +skills, ummm thats all you need really
Fred
55 dex for shark? shark... not ringing a bell... well if its 51 dex for shard remake.
silks is rubbish for an foher too, not worth the strength
good fohers like base str/dex with huge resists, +skills, ummm thats all you need really
Fred
He lives! O.O
- Akukami
Well , now i have some questions ...
Fohers , works well in Hell ?
How many points i need in Conviction ?
I know that the high lvl is your Conviction is better to duel with others Fohers , but it's realy important to max Conviction ?
It's all folks .
See ya
Well , now i have some questions ...
Fohers , works well in Hell ?
How many points i need in Conviction ?
I know that the high lvl is your Conviction is better to duel with others Fohers , but it's realy important to max Conviction ?
It's all folks .
See ya
PvM FoH sucks solo, with a group with someone dealing elemental damage it is great, as for maxing that depends on how many +skills items you use, for PvM it isnt that important but PvP, imho, it is. It tops out around lv 25ish so if you have more than +4 skills (and battle command from baba) you're not going to see any more return from skill points.
Honestly max conviction. I don't see why you wouldn't max conviction. I really can't think of anything I would put the points into otherwise... but I must admit while a FOH pally can get some nice kills... it will be demolished by anyone who just puts on a tons of lightning resist.
Zodijackyl
07-08-2006, 23:42
Scrap that entire build, and make another char before you attempt an FOH, it's easy to mess up if you don't know a lot about D2(c). And a point in Salvation is nice on an FOHer too.
Akumi wtf are u talkin about ias n ar? FOH is affected by fcr. The way timered spells work is you cast it (which takes shorter or longer based on FCR) then it is uncastable for 25 frames (1second) then you cast it again. SO, if you have 50 fcr, that means to foh twice will take 47 frames (11+25+11) or just under 2 seconds. To cast twice with 0fcr would take 55 frames (15+25+15) or 2 and 1/5th seconds.
Now, for spare points after foh conv hshock, I like to max resist lightning. Far cast zons are so common and 95% lr owns them and makes ur whole party immune, also resist lightning owns other fohers.
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