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idontspam
27-07-2006, 23:17
sorc (& what kind or dual tree)
or
mf barb
i would want to be able to do hell CS runs, i love item finding with barbs but not sure if they can handle hell CS runs in classic or not, especially with Iron Maiden always lurking everywhere in Chaos
can someone give me a general direction of what way to go?
also is the Azurewrath crystal sword still exist in classic?
Zodijackyl
27-07-2006, 23:21
Blizz sorc is great for hell CS runs, and it also does a great amount of damage, especially at high level, for MFing.
Azurewrath Crystal Sword exists on Non-Ladder only, and there are quite a few left, mostly sold to wannabe elite collectors (newbies who want to be like The Brotherhood) who don't realize that there's a lot of them out there and they are entirely useless.
idontspam
27-07-2006, 23:30
ive used blizz sorcs before they are too much hit & miss , also too many cold immunes in hell, i like vesatile char, reallly dont like running into something i cant kill >_< (Lord seies or w/e his name is IS cold immune)
thats why i want a dual tree, but not sure what way to go
orb/fire
orb/lit (t-storm)
Zodijackyl
28-07-2006, 00:22
Dual tree sorcs suck in classic, we don't have massive +skills like xpac. Blizz is best PvM on classic :P
Sagilevi
28-07-2006, 01:37
Fire ofc ;>
Blizz in cs is good but in boss I like fire ..
Fire ofc ;>
Blizz in cs is good but in boss I like fire ..
Fire is good, but what else can it kill....
*waits for it*
...yup, a whole lot of nothing else.
- Akukami
If you are starting out mfing i think running nightmare diablo with orb sorc is a good option, (you can get all the uniques) if you dont complete the quest you can get some half decent rares from him as well. Orb sorc with ts will cut through nightmare cs in 8ppl game easily and you will have a character that will be an able rusher too.
Sagilevi
28-07-2006, 18:04
Fire is good, but what else can it kill....
*waits for it*
...yup, a whole lot of nothing else.
- Akukami
Andy, meph ..
Andy, meph ..
And what else? That's the question you didn't answer.
- Akukami
WarlockCC
28-07-2006, 18:25
I kinda like Orb to I go down on ... I mean down to Andariel.
It is at least able to kill all things there and you won't be annoyed by those fire immune carvers which are there, even in Andy's room.
Bessides that, fire kills cows faster then other elements, simply because of the damage you can achieve with fire.
To quote one of the last great thespians : "heh, heh, hehe, fire, Fire ! ... I am Cornholio !"
While we're on the subject, anybody know a area one can go to not be disturbed by fire immunes ? Like the cow level.
For instance, for Ice, go to the Sewers, very few Cold immunes reside there.
Is there such a area for Fire based characters ?
Sagilevi
28-07-2006, 18:49
Akukami he want MF so this build great for MF ..
When I like to MF I kill andy and meph, no need something else ..
If you want, you can kill cows, but I prefer andy/meph ..
Ofc it's bad for CS or other "much monsters" places but
even a cold sorc can't kill all cs herself.
Ofc it's bad for CS or other "much monsters" places but
even a cold sorc can't kill all cs herself.
Yes she can. I've done CS solo a lot on hardcore with my Orb sorc. The only thing I can't kill is Cold/Lightning Immunes, which is normally only a problem with a magic resistant, LE de Seis.
Akukami he want MF so this build great for MF ..
When I like to MF I kill andy and meph, no need something else ..
If you want, you can kill cows, but I prefer andy/meph ..
Ofc it's bad for CS or other "much monsters" places but
even a cold sorc can't kill all cs herself.
my lvl 89 blizzer can solo hell cs in empty games, or with 2/3 people.
after that many, it's safer, and easier to do what I call mini raids - just pop seals for vizier/infector (and hope infector and his hoards didn't spawn cold immune)
a full, or even half full game puts de seis and a couple champion oblivions around that are a bit too strong/much for me to bother with trying to static down, and/or melee to death.
next ladder, I'm hoping to do a better blizzer than the one I've got, and once she hits high 80s toss a couple into fireball just to make it a little easier to do full "raids"
Sagilevi
28-07-2006, 19:58
The only thing I can't kill is Cold/Lightning Immunes
So you use also CL .. then it isn't only cold sorc right ?
And even if you kill with static + telekenesis (cold immunes), it's still hard, but possible.
I still think andy and meph is much more effective..
OR cs using a hammer ..
Akukami he want MF so this build great for MF ..
When I like to MF I kill andy and meph, no need something else ..
If you want, you can kill cows, but I prefer andy/meph ..
Ofc it's bad for CS or other "much monsters" places but
even a cold sorc can't kill all cs herself.
I'm not saying it's not good for MF, I'm saying that Fire MFers are good just for Andy, and Meph, and nothing else. If you had an MF Orber, you can kill Andy, Meph, Trav (except Toorc), and help kill CS on the Fect and Viz seals.
Also, I've done all of my MFing this Ladder in Hell Trav with my MF/GF Barb in one player games, and I find it more effective and profitable than a straight set of Andy/Meph raids with any Sorc. Even Bone Ash, Stormtree, and Fire Eye have dropped a few nice things here and there just from MFing with my Barb. Try it for yourself, and if you don't agree, then I can't help you anymore.
In regards to a Cold Sorc soloing CS, it's very possible to clear out 90% of CS with a Blizzer, and if you're raiding games with a Barb, clear the area around Seis, and whichever bosses are Cold Immune and let the Barb do the rest.
Goomba, why are you putting points into FBall? :undecided: Just grab a nice BO from me and we'll raid. :prop: Give in to the Pure Vita Blizzer...give in to the Pure Vita Blizzer.... :flip:
- Akukami
So you use also CL .. then it isn't only cold sorc right ?
And even if you kill with static + telekenesis (cold immunes), it's still hard, but possible.
I still think andy and meph is much more effective..
OR cs using a hammer ..
I use Static + Telekinesis. It's only the one point in Telekinesis to get to Teleport, too, so I really am nothing more than an Orb/Static Sorc. I have no interest in playing Hammerdins, and solo CS is much more interesting than exploiting Mephisto's poor AI to dodge every attack. Moat trick is lame and unnecessary, his AI is bad enough.
I use Static + Telekinesis. It's only the one point in Telekinesis to get to Teleport, too, so I really am nothing more than an Orb/Static Sorc. I have no interest in playing Hammerdins, and solo CS is much more interesting than exploiting Mephisto's poor AI to dodge every attack. Moat trick is lame and unnecessary, his AI is bad enough.
Im sorry but i dont think it is possible to kill a boss monster with static + telekinesis in hell cs it is hard enough to do it in nightmare cs (damn near impossible if you got more than 4 ppl in the game) level 20 telekinesis only does 20-21 damage!
Solo, I can do it to de Seis easily. Static, Static, Static, dodge missile, Static, Static, etc until he's been slivered for a while, then Telekinesis a couple times. Just takes a few potions.
Solo, I can do it to de Seis easily. Static, Static, Static, dodge missile, Static, Static, etc until he's been slivered for a while, then Telekinesis a couple times. Just takes a few potions.
Hmm, i will try this again sometime but i was under the impression that seis hit point recovery was too quick to be able to kill him with telekinesis, I went for dumping points into TS to finish him off before, as you can keep static on him whilst the TS hits so he has no chance to regen his hits. Also i rarely solo as the number of drops are crap when you solo.
He doesn't recover hit points in a solo game. At least, I'm pretty sure he doesn't given my experience. If he does, it's very, very pitiful.
WarlockCC
31-07-2006, 10:44
I guess the important part is to keep using static on him a while even though you see that he only has 1 pixel of life left.
Though I have faced off against a venom lord who had rediculous regen, can't remember his exact mods, extra strong stone skin mebbe. I could not even static him down to a pixel of life, let alone further then that single pixel.
Solution to all of this: get a Barb/Nec/Din to kill the immune Seis for you.
- Akukami
idontspam
01-08-2006, 08:22
Solution to all of this: get a Barb/Nec/Din to kill the immune Seis for you.
- Akukami
NOT a option for me, i dont want ppl taking my drops
whats the point in mfing if you dont get the drops, heh?
NOT a option for me, i dont want ppl taking my drops
whats the point in mfing if you dont get the drops, heh?
ever hear of cooperative play?
I have personally held for xferring, some very very valuble items, including very rare dupes for people on my /f list.
while I am not "rich" by any stretch of the imagination as it is referred to in D2 terms, as an example, I have helped a notorious paypaller on non-ladder xfer in one session items like a pstar, pruby dcara, dozens of sojs, etc.
Brian knows that I have no interest in jacking him.
There are folks that I play with regularily, and most typically we id items for each other after the drops from mf-ing (or raids, or private cs'es) and somehow quite easily come to an arrangement about who gets/needs what
it also helps, cause we bounce the item stats off of each other to determine whether something is worth keeping, and for what purpose, and thus don't have to worry about carrying worthless trash in the pack.
Noite Escura
01-08-2006, 17:44
He doesn't recover hit points in a solo game. At least, I'm pretty sure he doesn't given my experience. If he does, it's very, very pitiful.
Althought I have never tested it against De Seis, I made tests in single player against several LI monsters around. 9/10 times I could not lower them to 1 HP or even close. 50% I couldn't even kill them with Nova. That's with 70 FCR. I don't know if 110 would make such a difference. :undecided:
I have helped a notorious paypaller on non-ladder xfer in one session items like a pstar, pruby dcara, dozens of sojs, etc.
Brian knows that I have no interest in jacking him.
Shh!!! People might get ideas. :wink3:
- Akukami
ever hear of cooperative play?
I have personally held for xferring, some very very valuble items, including very rare dupes for people on my /f list.
while I am not "rich" by any stretch of the imagination as it is referred to in D2 terms, as an example, I have helped a notorious paypaller on non-ladder xfer in one session items like a pstar, pruby dcara, dozens of sojs, etc.
Brian knows that I have no interest in jacking him.
There are folks that I play with regularily, and most typically we id items for each other after the drops from mf-ing (or raids, or private cs'es) and somehow quite easily come to an arrangement about who gets/needs what
it also helps, cause we bounce the item stats off of each other to determine whether something is worth keeping, and for what purpose, and thus don't have to worry about carrying worthless trash in the pack.
Must our conversations always be reduced to paypal and dupes? Does anyone play a legit game anymore?
Geisterhund
01-08-2006, 22:36
I guess the important part is to keep using static on him a while even though you see that he only has 1 pixel of life left.
Though I have faced off against a venom lord who had rediculous regen, can't remember his exact mods, extra strong stone skin mebbe. I could not even static him down to a pixel of life, let alone further then that single pixel.
You do realize that static field is capped at 50% in hell difficulty? I'm pretty sure De Seis will regain health faster than telekinesis takes away from him, even in a one player game.
I love when people bring LoD game mechanics to the Classic forums. Static is not capped at 50% in Hell on Classic.
Lord de Seis does not regain hit points in a solo game, at least not for me. Am I the only person that ever bothered trying to CS solo with an Orb Sorc since 1.10? I always jokingly made the assumption, especially for Hardcore, but I'm surprised.
WarlockCC
02-08-2006, 10:04
Now now Creon, you should be able to tell from Geisterhund's extensive posting history that he must know more then us. Maybe it secretly is capped in Classic aswell and what we are experiencing is simply a display bug.
I got the afforementioned Venomlord down to about an 8th in the Hell game. Population of the game dwindled down to just me and still his life was stuck at about an 8th of his bar (he had a long name too, making it more frustrating :) )
Naturally, the number of players going down doesn't make a difference since the monster was already spawned and thus retained his original life total.
And, I would solo Hell CS, but my sorc's a lady, a title which I much prefer over the one after that. Same goes for Lord btw.
Yes, D2C SC NL for me all the way.
I would send him a message to read the thread again and notice the location, but I doubt he'll actually ever log in on that account again. He'll prolly make a new one cause he forgot his pass.
There's ways around giving up Duchess/Lady status, but they involve the use of a program we don't use or the patience to wait for a game created by a King/Baron to empty out. If you're level 75-80, leveling in Flayer or City while waiting is a good idea.
An alternative solution is to find a good friend, King him, stay Duke/Duchess/Lady/Whatever, have him make the game, clear CS together, then you get Diablo kill shot. Can get decent runs going with about any combination of Barb, Paladin, Sorc, and Necro and you only split drops two ways. Pretty sure this works.
WarlockCC
02-08-2006, 13:19
I kinda thought the last topic at hand was that CS can be cleared alone. And that Seis does not regen in a single player game. And that MF'ing can be done alone so you get all the drops.
If you have a friend available anyway, you can just aswell have him kill the cold immunes. No need to bother with static till the Cold Immune drops. :)
Having lots of Lords and Ladies, I am quite farmiliar with the way to avoid getting A4Q3. When I join a CS game, first thing I do is press Q and check the status. If the quest is open I usually won't even risk it and I'll just join the next game after all of the others got the quest. it is annoying that sometimes in a string of CS games, suddonly you find a game made by a new person. That almost got my chars the quest a couple of times.
Personally I enjoy doing private CS'es with a few good friends.
first game one person gets all the drops, Seis, Infector, Diablo, ect. Second game another person gets all the drops. If one of the others does pick up a item it is dropped unidentified for the 'owner' of that game.
There's ways around giving up Duchess/Lady status, but they involve the use of a program we don't use .
Unless you are lucky enough to have 2 or more computers :wink3:
Must our conversations always be reduced to paypal and dupes? Does anyone play a legit game anymore?
many people value dupes, and will paypal them for significant sums of real world money. there's no way around it. I personally don't do either. However, I do not judge those who do, it's their perogative if they chose to do so. *shrug*
a crappy player with paid for gear will make it evident that they are still a crappy player by the way they interact with other people, and by their game play. as an example, those that have played with me, know that I suck at pvp, and most likely still would with godly gear. no real point in me trying to acquire it. pvp isn't in my interest.
that being said, I brought the issue up in that original post to illustrate the level of trust, and honor that I develop/foster with the majority of folks that I play with. with that level of trust, cooperative play is truly a fun thing, no anxiety of someone stealing your drops, exp is better as well, and finally, generally speaking, more people in a game = more/better drops.
mfing solo, in a game with just the occupant holds no interest for me. tried it briefly with my 89 blizzer wearing anywhere from 100-300ish mf, and was overwhelmingly disappointed with the drops. *Shrug*
I have very much enjoyed playing east softcore ladder the past 6 weeks or so, having managed to get a din to mid lvl 89 with all legit gear, all whilst juggling a full time job, a family, and a lengthy bnet outage, plus two weekend trips out of state... obviously, no dupes there, and I already mentioned, I don't paypal, having had a very frustrating problem with paypal in the very early days of its existance.
Must our conversations always be reduced to paypal and dupes? Does anyone play a legit game anymore?
While I don't agree with the the dupes that are all over Non-Ladder I think we must realize they are there and are not going away. I mean when one plays LOD the usual end items are Rune Words, things like botd and Enigma are the best and I think you allow those items to be spoken about, but I can also guess that a majority of the runes that make them are duped. So why is there an unfair advantaged applied to LOD. Those items are duped becuase they are the best items in the game... its a sad fact of life. For those that play completley legit don't use them, but when you discuss strategy I think its important to consider them.
Locke
While I don't agree with the the dupes that are all over Non-Ladder I think we must realize they are there and are not going away. I mean when one plays LOD the usual end items are Rune Words, things like botd and Enigma are the best and I think you allow those items to be spoken about, but I can also guess that a majority of the runes that make them are duped. So why is there an unfair advantaged applied to LOD. Those items are duped becuase they are the best items in the game... its a sad fact of life. For those that play completley legit don't use them, but when you discuss strategy I think its important to consider them.
Locke
One this is not LoD, the reason alot of ppl play classic is a rejection of the things that LoD introduced, so dont quote LoD items as an arguement on the classic forum. I guess most ppl that play classic play on the ladder and as such are relatively free from dupes but i guess there might be some around.
I dont have a problem with ppl that use paypal to buy items thats upto them and if they think it is worth spending real money on something that doesnt really exist then hey go ahead. But to me it some how defeats the point of playing games.
In fact i so dislike the whole trade thing i rarely trade for items prefering to find my own.
And lastly stratergy imho is not item based in classic, so long as you can get the basic stuff to help you survive the rest is based on skills and the skill in using them.
And lastly stratergy imho is not item based in classic, so long as you can get the basic stuff to help you survive the rest is based on skills and the skill in using them.
for pvm I would very much agree.
pvp is another thing altogether: in order to build an insanely tweaked vita barb as an example, (which I haven't) one needs items with insane +str/+life in order to gear up.
some people would prefer to buy/paypal, or trade for such items, that would have been commonly duped in the old days.
*shrug*
Must our conversations always be reduced to paypal and dupes? Does anyone play a legit game anymore?
Face it, man. Until Blizzard realizes that the only way to get rid of all dupes is to ban all legit and non-legit players on NL alike, there's always going to be some mention of dupes. As for Paypalling, I don't care if one person decides to shell out thousands for the best items on D2. More power to those selling! :thumbsup:
- Akukami
back to the original post, regarding pure blizz:
wouldn't it be better to max static instead of maxing out ice bolt/glacial spike, it spams much faster over wide area (BL 20, IBlast 20, 17 CM ...)?
back to the original post, regarding pure blizz:
wouldn't it be better to max static instead of maxing out ice bolt/glacial spike, it spams much faster over wide area (BL 20, IBlast 20, 17 CM ...)?
If you enjoy 1300 Blizz damage, then sure, it's not a bad idea. :rolleyes:
- Akukami
Noite Escura
04-08-2006, 17:48
I never messed with full Blizzard, but I don't think it can lower bosses's health faster than Static. If it's just for MF you'll be avoiding most monsters anyway so you don't need to worry about lightning immunes.
back to the original post, regarding pure blizz:
wouldn't it be better to max static instead of maxing out ice bolt/glacial spike, it spams much faster over wide area (BL 20, IBlast 20, 17 CM ...)?
people put more than one point into static field? why?
on an end/boss that's not lr, a vitasorc should easily be able to stand right next to said boss and spam static to get them way down, then cast blizzard, then spam with spike/bolt while that frozen rain is falling.
WarlockCC
04-08-2006, 18:01
I think one of the advantages of Bliz is that it's drop and forget and the damage can be quite breath-taking.
To this day I have not made any Bliz sorc though and at this time I have no plans for another sorc after my very succesfull(for me, cause I suck at finding things) Orb/tele/lots'o'life sorc.
But, Akakumi is a advocate of the Blizzard sorc. Convience me that my next sorc should be a Blizz. What do you enjoy about a Blizzard sorc and could you give a rough description of your gear ? (perhaps a linky to the guide I think you put up rescently). There is a good chance my next sorc will be blizz though, since that is one of the types I haven't made yet asside from a melee sorc. My chantsorc isn't really good for melee, she lacks life and res.
By the above I mean offcourse one of the types I would be interested in making and have not made yet.
I think my next project will be a zon though, or mebbe a actual Ladder char (MF sorcy), just to see what the MF is like and mebbe I can pick up a few nice things before they get transferred to non-ladder or even deleted by those who do not wish to play Non-ladder.
Asside from that I have some plans to make a Lancebarb with shiny gear. But the Dura, oh the dura. I'll prolly level him with that 75 dura I found the other week. I just have a weak spot for barbs.
I think one of the advantages of Bliz is that it's drop and forget and the damage can be quite breath-taking.
To this day I have not made any Bliz sorc though and at this time I have no plans for another sorc after my very succesfull(for me, cause I suck at finding things) Orb/tele/lots'o'life sorc.
But, Akakumi is a advocate of the Blizzard sorc. Convience me that my next sorc should be a Blizz. What do you enjoy about a Blizzard sorc and could you give a rough description of your gear ? (perhaps a linky to the guide I think you put up rescently). There is a good chance my next sorc will be blizz though, since that is one of the types I haven't made yet asside from a melee sorc. My chantsorc isn't really good for melee, she lacks life and res.
By the above I mean offcourse one of the types I would be interested in making and have not made yet.
I think my next project will be a zon though, or mebbe a actual Ladder char (MF sorcy), just to see what the MF is like and mebbe I can pick up a few nice things before they get transferred to non-ladder or even deleted by those who do not wish to play Non-ladder.
Asside from that I have some plans to make a Lancebarb with shiny gear. But the Dura, oh the dura. I'll prolly level him with that 75 dura I found the other week. I just have a weak spot for barbs.
I haven't played my piggy (my blizzer) very much in about 6 or 8 weeks, so memory is a bit foggy on some of this.
with a little bit of str boost, she can wear gskin.
she's currently wearing a gskin, pretty decent fcr/resisty rings, fhr+str belt with 4 rows for pots, fhr hat of some sort (bhelm I think) high dual resist plus life if I recall correctly. high dual resist mf boots, magefist, shard, fhr/30/20 prismatic spiked/barbed sheild (I forget exactly) and one of the resists is stacked.
I alternate ammys, as I have one with low resist, but low 20s mf, and one that's prismatic.
I also carry around an eyeless, and with minor gear swapping can hit the 110fcr breakpoint with it. which makes teleporting, and bolt/spike spamming quite fast. I can keep resists at something like 75/75/65/65 with eyeless as well, so I do that sometimes instead of the resisty shield.
I keep a tritopazed hat of some sort (prolly mask) and a gull in the pack or cube, and swap them over when I get to the end bosses like andy, mephy, or on D if I'm private raiding and have used the baba to kill de seis.
what I like about my blizzer (even messed up with 10 accidental points in warmth) is that, compared to the orber, she's more of a tank.
spam the screen with blasts/bolts to freeze the non cold immunes, then let the freezing rain fly down to finish them off. either the bolt, or blast does a hair over 1k dmg, and the blizzard itself is in the range of 2,100 (according to the char screen on both)?
aside from the messed up warmth, I always have one or two other "mis-allocated" points in something goofy such as frozen/chilling armor. Seeing as how I've only been playing for roughly 2 years, even the builds that I consider "good" I still tend to experiment with/on.
I know people laugh/scoff at the 110fcr blizzer, but when teleporting, i have, can, and do sometimes accidently teleport directly into a giant mob of oblivions, lords, etc. and manage to get outta dodge before they even take a swing.
I know people laugh/scoff at the 110fcr blizzer, but when teleporting, i have, can, and do sometimes accidently teleport directly into a giant mob of oblivions, lords, etc. and manage to get outta dodge before they even take a swing.
amen
i don't know about frozen armor, goomba, u say it's a waste but that 0.3 sec is enough to tele to safety, and it saved my *** plenty of times on my orber, with 70 fcr that is :rolleyes:
i was convinced (akukami:thumbsup:) to blizz sorc, but i think i wait for the rumored reset to take place before going ladder
amen
i don't know about frozen armor, goomba, u say it's a waste but that 0.3 sec is enough to tele to safety, and it saved my *** plenty of times on my orber, with 70 fcr that is :rolleyes:
i was convinced (akukami:thumbsup:) to blizz sorc, but i think i wait for the rumored reset to take place before going ladder
I agree with frozen armour one point is enough and it works a treat.
I think my next project will be a zon though, or mebbe a actual Ladder char (MF sorcy)
a ladder character hmm :tongue:
What I like about my blizzer? Well I use her mostly for MF so I have done something that most people don't, I put a heavy investment into teleport. I lose some blizzard dmg, but as much as I use it I can kill mephisto/andy just as fast.
Huh? Where in this thread did I advocate using a Blizzer as an MFer? :shocked:
In any case, I only MF with my Blizzer when I'm bored, and I mostly use my Barb to Hell Trav a few goodies. But if I made an MF Sorc right now, I'd stick with an Orber for several reasons, the first being the availability of Skill points. Orb can be effective for MFing even if you just max out Orb and Cold Mastery, but if you like, you can also max out Ice Bolt. In either case, what I then do is max out Teleport so it costs 5 Mana or so. This way, I can Tele around longer w/o having to constantly pot while trying to find Meph or Andy. Also, I don't bother putting any points into Cold Armors, but if you must have it, use a +2/+3 Staff from a vendor. Saves you a point. :grin: As for gear, I use the standard 3-Socket Helm, Chancies, GWrap, Ward, MF Boots, Shard, Twitch, MF Rings/Ammy and try to hit about 200 MF while keeping my FR and LR high (CR not really needed for MFer).
Warlock, I'm not going to convince you to make anything, just try it for yourself. Getting the gear for the Sorc is a challenge, and being able to max out the three main Resists while investing all Attribute points into Vita is an even bigger challenge. Amazingly, the leveling is actually the easiest of all the things needed for this Sorc. I thought leveling from 1-90 was a challenge, but these past few weeks have shown me that you get used to it after a while and start counting how many spots you move up on the Overall Ladder. For gear, I'm not going to give out details, but just know that Twitch, Shard, and Magefist are in the mix. If you want, I posted the gear I had on my first Pure Vita Blizzer somewhere in Palm's Sorc Guide in the stickies, so you can go take a look if you want. Despite that, it's not nearly as good as what I have now, and I intend on keeping what's on my current Blizzer a secret. :tongue:
- Akukami
omg, i made my orber identical
just put 5 points in static for that extra safety (first char)
i use mage and shard i already found to get to durance 3, then switch to chancies and gull, due to low res i do nm mef, but he can drop any unique i seek for now
Zodijackyl
07-08-2006, 12:52
A powerful blizz is better than static for MFing because you can do a huge amount of damage from a nice range and not get hit while doing it, and I can drop Andy one blizz anyway, though Meph takes a few.
WarlockCC
07-08-2006, 13:05
Meph takes more Orbs though, which have to be delivered up close and personal, while Blizz can indeed be cast from afar.
Guess I will have to make a Blizz sorc some time, when I find some more Sorcish gear.
Noite Escura
07-08-2006, 18:35
I thought if you max Static you could use it from very far away also...
I thought if you max Static you could use it from very far away also...
yes, pumping static increases the range, but static is never a killing spell, only weakening to the point where some other spell/attack can kill.
I should think, that any sorc, over mid 70s with some distant resist (easily had by swapping over a tri p diamond sheild during the kill) can stand toe-to-toe with andy, mephy and/or diablo, spam static, then deal the death blow with main attack. (or drop blizzard/meteor, and spam static whilst waiting for the spell timer to reset)
a "fun build" perhaps might be a maxed static, and use it in a "helping capacity" in cs runs to weaken herds of nonLI's, but even I probably wouldn't go that route. (and I'm known for messed up builds, and experimental builds deep into the 70s levels)
yes, pumping static increases the range, but static is never a killing spell, only weakening to the point where some other spell/attack can kill.
I should think, that any sorc, over mid 70s with some distant resist (easily had by swapping over a tri p diamond sheild during the kill) can stand toe-to-toe with andy, mephy and/or diablo, spam static, then deal the death blow with main attack. (or drop blizzard/meteor, and spam static whilst waiting for the spell timer to reset)
a "fun build" perhaps might be a maxed static, and use it in a "helping capacity" in cs runs to weaken herds of nonLI's, but even I probably wouldn't go that route. (and I'm known for messed up builds, and experimental builds deep into the 70s levels)
Still a popular build in HC to max static, and back in the day of hell cows being a way to exp past lv 90, max static and orb rocked, almost as much as metor did.
Still a popular build in HC to max static, and back in the day of hell cows being a way to exp past lv 90, max static and orb rocked, almost as much as metor did.
interesting. I didn't have a sorc during the hell cows = xp days.
my summoner (also had curse/CE) managed to do ok back in those days with a decent party.
hell cows are still fun, but not worth the risk for the most part, unless the char is at base exp. urking the king has gotten me some nice drops in even in the current patch, but I confess I haven't really done much mfing there in the past 5 months or so
...but I confess I haven't really done much mfing there in the past 5 months or so
That's because Ladder fever set in. :grin:
- Akukami
I am confused. Back in the Hell cow days I always played an orb/nova sorc. Honestly those were the only sorc's to play... but I didn't play classic then.... Ahh I kind of miss those sorc's....
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