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kuafu
27-07-2006, 23:07
After the 1000 hell baal runs I did last time (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=464545), I wanted to do something different. So I tried 20-30 pit runs, and I was bored to death (I must be weird to say that 1000 baal runs are not boring:tongue:). In addition, it took me 5 minutes on average to do a complete clean of the two levels in pits, which is the same amount of time I need to do a solo baal run. When I finally decided to do another baal run just for fun, baal dropped me a BK ring, so that got me hooked up again and I did another 1000 runs (didn't find another BK though:wink3:).
There're few gear changes since the last runs. I found a Wisp from Nihlathak during key runs, which replaced a SoJ and made TGod obsolete. Now I can run around with full Tal set without switching to TGod for souls any more, saving me a lot of trouble. Another change is that I replaced the Oculus on switch with a 6BO CtA. The improvement of survivability is significant; I didn't die a single time in all 1000 runs (several near-death situations that would've killed me if I didn't use CtA). So my gears are as following:
- Tal Rasha's Horadric Crest w/ PTopaz (24MF)
- Tal Rasha's Lidless Eye 2/2/2 w/ Ist (30MF)
- Tal Rasha's Guardianship w/ PTopaz (112MF)
- Tal Rasha's Fine-Spun Cloth (15MF)
- Tal Rasha's Adjudication (65MF with the rest set)
- Sanctuary Troll Nest (0MF, +66 resist all)
- Chance Guards (40MF)
- Stone of Jordan (0MF)
- Wisp Projector (17MF, 19% Lightning Absorb)
- War Traveler (49MF)
On weapon switch:
- 6BO Call to Arms (30MF)
- Headhunter's Glory w/ 3Ist's (75MF)
My inventory:
- Gheed's Fortune (40MF)
- 8 7MF Small charms (56MF)
- Annihilus (19/15/6), Hellfire torch (20/17), and 3 Cold skillers.
As a summary, I use main weapons (full Tal set) to teleport to the throne, clean it and kill all baal's minions, with 448MF in total. I switch weapons right before I kill baal, and that gives 523MF in total.
I only recorded the items that I found from baal himself, without anything from the minions or other monsters in the throne. And I didn't record any failed unique/set items.
Now the numbers that you have been eagerly waiting for:smiley::
Unique Set
TC 3: 3 2
TC 6: 14 5
TC 9: 38 25
TC 12: 41 32
TC 15: 42 60
TC 18: 51 30
TC 21: 64 71
TC 24: 34 36
TC 27: 45 39
TC 30: 27 8
TC 33: 32 9
TC 36: 48 7
TC 39: 28 14
TC 42: 21 1
TC 45: 28 16
TC 48: 25 9
TC 51: 19 14
TC 54: 22 12
TC 57: 8 8
TC 60: 15 0
TC 63: 17 4
TC 66: 12 9
TC 69: 7 4
TC 72: 24 0
TC 75: 25 8
TC 78: 10 7
TC 81: 9 10
TC 84: 7 18
TC 87: 2 3
Ring: 6 22
Amulet: 2 10
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Total: 726 493

Gheed: 3
Facet: 1
Among the 1000 runs, 249 runs ended up with no unique/set item. Among all the unique/set items, there're 264 distinctive unique items (excluding Gheed and Facet), and 103 distinctive set items.
There are 2 TC87 uniques dropped by baal, and 1 from the minions. In all 2000 runs I've done, I've found 6 TC87 uniques in total (from both baal and the minions); I think that frequency is not bad at all.

kuafu
27-07-2006, 23:11
Here is a detailed list of all unique items I found, with the number of occurrence, sorted by TC:
TC 3:
Blinkbat's Form 1
Gull 1
The Gnasher 1

TC 6:
Blood Crescent 1
Dimoak's Hew 3
Leadcrow 3
Tarnhelm 1
The Centurion 1
The Dragon Chang 1
Umbral Disk 1
Witherstring 3

TC 9:
Bloodfist 3
Crushflange 2
Deathspade 6
Gorefoot 6
Raven Claw 5
Razortine 7
Skewer of Krintiz 3
Snakecord 1
The Diggler 4
Twitchthroe 1

TC 12:
Chance Guards 2
Coif of Glory 6
Darkglow 1
Gleamscythe 2
Goreshovel 6
Maelstrom 2
Nightsmoke 2
Rogue's Bow 2
Shadowfang 5
Spire of Lazarus 1
Steelgoad 2
Stormguild 6
Swordback Hold 2
Treads of Cthon 2

TC 15:
Bladebone 2
Bloodrise 2
Duskdeep 3
Griswold's Edge 5
Hawkmail 6
Ichorsting 4
Rusthandle 1
Soul Harvest 5
Sparking Mail 9
Steelclash 5

TC 18:
Bloodthief 7
Gravenspine 2
Soulflay 4
Stormstrike 10
The Chieftain 5
The Jade Tan Do 8
The Salamander 1
Venom Ward 14

TC 21:
Bonesnap 4
Goblin Toe 1
Goldwrap 5
Hellplague 4
Iceblink 1
Kinemil's Awl 7
Lance of Yaggai 8
Magefist 6
Skull Splitter 5
Stormeye 2
The Battlebranch 6
The Face of Horror 2
The General's Tan Do Li Ga 9
Wall of the Eyeless 4

TC 24:
Blacktongue 5
Boneflesh 3
Brainhew 2
Bverrit Keep 2
Hellcast 3
Howltusk 2
Spectral Shard 4
The Iron Jang Bong 2
The Tannr Gorerod 2
Wizendraw 5
Wormskull 4

TC 27:
Bladebuckle 5
Culwen's Point 7
Frostburn 7
Hellclap 5
Humongous 7
Ironstone 4
Rakescar 3
Ripsaw 1
Tearhaunch 6

TC 30:
Bloodletter 3
Dark Clan Crusher 4
Razorswitch 1
Rockfleece 5
Skystrike 2
The Ward 3
Undead Crown 4
Woestave 5

TC 33:
Blastbark 2
Coldkill 1
Deathbit 2
Doomslinger 1
Fleshrender 1
Rattlecage 1
Riphook 2
Spineripper 1
The Impaler 4
The Meat Scraper 5
The Patriarch 4
Venom Grip 8

TC 36:
Butcher's Pupil 5
Heavenly Garb 1
Hexfire 3
Infernostride 3
Kelpie Snare 4
Kuko Shakaku 1
Langer Briser 3
Peasant Crown 3
Pierre Tombale Couant 2
Skin of the Vipermagi 2
String of Ears 3
The Grim Reaper 4
The Scalper 3
The Spirit Shroud 3
Titan's Revenge 2
Visceratuant 5
Warlord's Trust 1

TC 39:
Blackleach Blade 1
Blade of Ali Baba 2
Carin Shard 2
Chromatic Ire 3
Crainte Vomir 2
Endlesshail 4
Ginther's Rift 2
Goldskin 4
Gravepalm 1
Islestrike 2
Moonfall 2
Rockstopper 1
Skin of the Flayed One 2

TC 42:
Athena's Wrath 3
Bing Sz Wang 2
Blackbog's Sharp 1
Headstriker 3
Lance Guard 1
Pus Spitter 1
Silks of the Victor 3
Soulfeast Tine 2
Spirit Forge 1
Stealskull 2
Stormrider 2

TC 45:
Baezil's Vortex 2
Bloodtree Stump 5
Coldsteel Eye 2
Crow Caw 1
Darksight Helm 4
Ghoulhide 2
Hand of Blessed Light 1
Plague Bearer 1
Pompeii's Wrath 1
Shaftstop 1
Silkweave 2
The Vile Husk 3
Tiamat's Rebuke 2
Witchwild String 1

TC 48:
Boneslayer Blade 4
Cliffkiller 2
Cloudcrack 3
Duriel's Shell 1
Earthshaker 1
Guardian Naga 4
Lidless Wall 1
Lycander's Aim 2
Skull Collector 2
Stormspike 5

TC 51:
Bartuc's Cut-Throat 4
Lycander's Flank 2
Magewrath 1
Skullder's Ire 2
The Atlantean 3
The Minotaur 2
The Oculus 1
Todesfaelle Flamme 1
Vampire Gaze 1
War Traveler 2

TC 54:
Blood Raven's Charge 1
Demon Machine 3
Goldstrike Arch 1
Gore Rider 2
Guardian Angel 1
Hellmouth 4
Nord's Tenderizer 1
Razor's Edge 3
Swordguard 4
The Gavel of Pain 2

TC 57:
Demon Limb 1
Gimmershred 1
Grim's Burning Dead 1
Radament's Sphere 3
Toothrow 2

TC 60:
Arioc's Needle 2
Atma's Wail 1
Bonehew 2
Harlequin Crest 3
Que-Hegan's Wisdom 1
Wizardspike 6

TC 63:
Arachnid Mesh 1
Black Hades 4
Bloodmoon 2
Cerebus' Bite 1
Djinn Slayer 4
Dracul's Grasp 1
Jade Talon 2
Stoneraven 2

TC 66:
Corpsemourn 1
Ethereal Edge 4
Ormus' Robes 1
Sandstorm Trek 4
Thunderstroke 1
Wolfhowl 1

TC 69:
Eschuta's Temper 1
Nosferatu's Coil 1
Soul Drainer 1
Spike Thorn 1
Windhammer 3

TC 72:
Alma Negra 1
Baranar's Star 4
Demon's Arch 2
Flamebellow 3
Marrowwalk 2
Rune Master 4
Stormshield 1
The Gladiator's Bane 3
The Reaper's Toll 4

TC 75:
Andariel's Visage 4
Demonhorn's Edge 2
Hellrack 5
Hellslayer 2
Lightsabre 3
Shadow Killer 2
Verdungo's Hearty Cord 3
Viperfork 4

TC 78:
Doombringer 2
Eaglehorn 3
Firelizard's Talons 1
Head Hunter's Glory 1
Horizon's Tornado 3

TC 81:
Boneflame 1
Cranebeak 3
Halaberd's Reign 2
Lacerator 1
Tomb Reaver 1
Wraith Flight 1

TC 84:
Fleshripper 1
Frostwind 1
Gut Siphon 1
Messerschmidt's Reaver 1
Spirit Ward 2
Stone Crusher 1

TC 87:
Steel Pillar 1
Windforce 1

Ring:
Bul-Katho's Wedding Band 1
Carrion Wind 1
Manald Heal 3
Nagelring 1

Amulet:
Atma's Scarab 1
Metalgrid 1

kuafu
27-07-2006, 23:12
And here's the detailed list of all the set items:
TC 3:
Hsarus' Iron Fist 2

TC 6:
Arcanna's Head 2
Cleglaw's Claw 3

TC 9:
Angelic Sickle 10
Arctic Binding 4
Sander's Riprap 6
Sander's Taboo 5

TC 12:
Angelic Mantle 6
Berserker's Headgear 3
Civerb's Ward 9
Cleglaw's Pincers 2
Hsarus' Iron Heel 3
Hsarus' Iron Stay 4
Hwanin's Blessing 5

TC 15:
Berserker's Hatchet 16
Cathan's Mesh 7
Civerb's Cudgel 3
Isenhart's Horns 11
Isenhart's Lightbrand 13
Milabrega's Orb 10

TC 18:
Cathan's Rule 1
Isenhart's Case 25
Sander's Superstition 4

TC 21:
Arctic Mitts 4
Berserker's Hauberk 8
Cathan's Visage 9
Cleglaw's Tooth 17
Infernal Sign 1
Iratha's Cord 1
Iratha's Cuff 4
Milabrega's Rod 4
Tancred's Crowbill 19
Vidala's Fetlock 4

TC 24:
Arcanna's Deathwand 4
Naj's Circlet 5
Sigon's Guard 4
Sigon's Visor 5
Tancred's Skull 10
Vidala's Barb 8

TC 27:
Arctic Horn 8
Death's Touch 3
Infernal Torch 3
Sigon's Gage 7
Sigon's Sabot 7
Sigon's Wrap 11

TC 30:
Iratha's Coil 3
Isenhart's Parry 4
Milabrega's Diadem 1

TC 33:
Sigon's Shelter 9

TC 36:
Arcanna's Flesh 7

TC 39:
Aldur's Rhythm 4
Hwanin's Justice 2
M'avina's Tenet 4
Tancred's Spine 1
Whitstan's Guard 3

TC 42:
Milabrega's Robe 1

TC 45:
Hwanin's Refuge 4
Natalya's Soul 2
Sazabi's Mental Sheath 3
Tal Rasha's Fine-Spun Cloth 3
Trang-Oul's Claws 4

TC 48:
Aldur's Stony Gaze 2
Haemosu's Adamant 3
Tal Rasha's Horadric Crest 4

TC 51:
Aldur's Advance 3
Guillaume's Face 3
Natalya's Totem 4
Tal Rasha's Lidless Eye 2
Trang-Oul's Wing 1
Wilhelm's Pride 1

TC 54:
Immortal King's Detail 4
Immortal King's Forge 5
Immortal King's Pillar 3

TC 57:
Hwanin's Splendor 5
Laying of Hands 3

TC 63:
Dangoon's Teaching 3
Trang-Oul's Scales 1

TC 66:
Dark Adherent 5
Griswold's Heart 4

TC 69:
Immortal King's Stone Crusher 4

TC 75:
Credendum 5
Natalya's Shadow 3

TC 78:
M'avina's Caster 1
Naj's Light Plate 2
Sazabi's Ghost Liberator 4

TC 81:
M'avina's Embrace 4
Ondal's Almighty 6

TC 84:
Aldur's Deception 2
Sazabi's Cobalt Redeemer 8
Taebaek's Glory 1
Tal Rasha's Guardianship 2
Trang-Oul's Girth 3
Trang-Oul's Guise 2

TC 87:
Bul-Kathos' Tribal Guardian 1
Griswold's Redemption 2

Ring:
Angelic Halo 5
Cathan's Seal 17

Amulet:
Cathan's Sigil 1
Civerb's Icon 3
Iratha's Collar 2
Tancred's Weird 2
Telling of Beads 1
Vidala's Snare 1

kuafu
27-07-2006, 23:20
Few fun facts:
- The cursed green breastplate is unquestionably the most common set item, and its unique sibling is the most common unique one:smiley:.
- Baal only dropped 2 unique amulets in 1000 runs, and they're 900+ runs apart.
- There are no set items in TC60 and TC72 (I've never noticed that before).
- Not a single HR dropped in all my baal runs. The highest rune I've found in these runs are Pul; although I do have a lot of baal GC now:wink3:.
- Excluding cow king set, I still have 18 items that I have never found, all uniques, 14 in TC87.
- I'm No.103 on sorceress ladder now:grin:, still need 300-400 more runs to get to lvl97

Evrae Altana
27-07-2006, 23:32
Wow. I can't imagine putting myself through 100 Baal runs, let alone 1000. Congrats on all the nice items found, especially the Windforce and Tal's armor. :thumbsup:

nickedoff
28-07-2006, 00:05
And not a single Tyraels.

Edit - Can baal drop Tyraels?

Anyhow, that's a helluva lot of baal runs.
Wow -_x

Evrae Altana
28-07-2006, 00:10
Edit - Can baal drop Tyraels?Yes he can drop it.

jrlafrance
28-07-2006, 00:31
After the 1000 hell baal runs I did last time (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=464545), I wanted to do something different. So I tried 20-30 pit runs, and I was bored to death (I must be weird to say that 1000 baal runs are not boring:tongue:). In addition, it took me 5 minutes on average to do a complete clean of the two levels in pits, which is the same amount of time I need to do a solo baal run. When I finally decided to do another baal run just for fun, baal dropped me a BK ring, so that got me hooked up again and I did another 1000 runs (didn't find another BK though:wink3:).
There're few gear changes since the last runs. I found a Wisp from Nihlathak during key runs, which replaced a SoJ and made TGod obsolete. Now I can run around with full Tal set without switching to TGod for souls any more, saving me a lot of trouble. Another change is that I replaced the Oculus on switch with a 6BO CtA. The improvement of survivability is significant; I didn't die a single time in all 1000 runs (several near-death situations that would've killed me if I didn't use CtA). So my gears are as following:
- Tal Rasha's Horadric Crest w/ PTopaz (24MF)
- Tal Rasha's Lidless Eye 2/2/2 w/ Ist (30MF)
- Tal Rasha's Guardianship w/ PTopaz (112MF)
- Tal Rasha's Fine-Spun Cloth (15MF)
- Tal Rasha's Adjudication (65MF with the rest set)
- Sanctuary Troll Nest (0MF, +66 resist all)
- Chance Guards (40MF)
- Stone of Jordan (0MF)
- Wisp Projector (17MF, 19% Lightning Absorb)
- War Traveler (49MF)
On weapon switch:
- 6BO Call to Arms (30MF)
- Headhunter's Glory w/ 3Ist's (75MF)
My inventory:
- Gheed's Fortune (40MF)
- 8 7MF Small charms (56MF)
- Annihilus (19/15/6), Hellfire torch (20/17), and 3 Cold skillers.
As a summary, I use main weapons (full Tal set) to teleport to the throne, clean it and kill all baal's minions, with 448MF in total. I switch weapons right before I kill baal, and that gives 523MF in total.

I'm not sure your numbers are correct regarding MF. As soon as you go to switch, you lose the 65% bonus for the complete set, so that puts you at 383%MF. In addition, you lose another 30% from Lidless Eye, dropping you to 353%MF. Now add 30 (CtA) and 75 (Headhunter's Glory), and that puts you at 458! Only 10% more MF than with your normal gear on. Doesn't really seem worth it to me.

kuafu
28-07-2006, 00:34
65MF bonus is for wearing 3 pieces, not the whole set. I'd be very upset otherwise to find that out after 2k baal runs:smiley:.

Nilaripper
28-07-2006, 08:36
hm..loooking at the statisics makes me feel lucky for having found 5 sojs and 3 bk rings in ladder season 3.(i lost one bk coz i died in hcl..):cool:

sirwhere
28-07-2006, 11:23
I think we can conclude the only thing baal runs are reliable for is Isenhart's breast plate... lol