How can exec be comparable to Naga

[Approon]

okay im new to classic played exp for a long time

but i cant see how dual exec is comparable to dual nagas for WW :S

my theories

*exec can get better ed becouse its a two hander (no idea thou)
*exec looks nicer :S (atleast my opinion)
*exec and naga has same range (equal)
*exec better average dmg
*naga better max dmg
*naga MUCH lower reqs
*do you use dual weild one exec or use one exec in both hands?

and is it true that ww needs no ias :S

just tell me why to even use execs
i really wanna use them but i need to see why not to use nagas :D

cheers

[Pimp By Blood]

hmm^^ first of ias isnt needed in classic for ww true.

but... duel wielding isnt a wise idea. if u wanna make a bvb use exec/naga and a shield either a high block one or swordback which is the most likely to be seen. or if u dont want bvb i.e. rather pvm u can use an exec wielding with both hands for higher dmg. further id say that when a bvb uses exec is just for style reasons or he got a real kicky one with -reqs. if style doesnt matter to you naga is the better alternative. sincerly

[Approon]

okay so ias isnt needed but @ what
frame rate is the ww swinging then :D

etc.. how many hits per second
any difference in ww speed with 2 weapons or 1 weap
exp pack had 50% more hits

and i still wanna use exec
cmon someone tell me it got any advantage over naga

[Fearlessone]

etc.. how many hits per second
any difference in ww speed with 2 weapons or 1 weap
exp pack had 50% more hits
You have some unstated assumptions here. Must u use a shield, are u HC or a dueler?

If u want to kill a mob the quickest and have enough life and resists and life leech, u need to go with a 2-hander. Dmg is reduced with 2 weapons for ww, i think in 1.10 there was something in the patch that ww would look at one of the weapons and then add a 50% dmg bonus from the other one. I dont believe u will hit any more often with 2 weapons, unless one of them has a nice ar bonus on it.

Yeah, it does look cool to have 2 execs, esp when u are running with them, even in town. Naga's have always looked kind of wimpy. Early in the ladder, i found a 214 dmg exec with -30% req !!! So u wont always have to pump 110 dex and 170 str, mine is 119 str and 77 dex, which is nice... Sad, but i havent done anything with that exec, it just collects dust, the only decent barb weapon I've found all season.

[WarlockCC]

Fred mentioned you do get 50% more hit attempts, just like in LoD, when you wield 2 weapons in a WW.
I still wouldn't though. If you really want to go 1h, use a shield.
As for advantages, hmmm, durability ? 26 dura on the naga vs the 50 dura on the exec.(From a PvM perspective this is important) I can tell you that I am happy with the low damage (86) tri-dura Naga I have for leveling my Naga barb. Even that one needs frequent repairs.
Naga does 16 to 45 (30.5 Avg) while exec in 1h mode does 24 to 40 (32 Avg)
They can both get 200ed, they can both get 20 to max.
High Naga's are more rare because people tend to compare them to bh's and bh's offcourse do more damage, so the 'lesser' damage Naga is sold without consideration for it's range.
Higher damage execs are more common because when people see a high number (they'll only look at 2h damage, really, I tested it) such as one finds on a good exec, they will keep the weapon. They will offcourse also compare the 2h exec damage with the naga's 1h damage.
The above is people in general, not the ones that actually do know what to look for in a weapon. Ignorence is Bliss.

[Approon]

okay to answer some questions

*ill play softcore and want to make a pvm barb for mere fun :smiley:
by that i mean more or less untwinked

i love the look of big swords :laugh:
so if someone could give a reason to use exec over naga

and yes i wont use a shield

[WarlockCC]

I would have thought the durability was reason enough. :)
But indeed the look of it. Choose between a tiny axe that looks like the very same axe your barb starts out with or gargantuan, hulking piece of sharp edged metal fury that would send even the most courageous carver cowering in fear.
Aesthetics demand that your weapons look the same, so you really can't have a black and a yellow exec. In that sense, Naga's are easier, because it's much harder to see the color of the Naga.

Good luck with the duel-wielding WW build, it should provide you with a heap of fun. :)

[Approon]

hope so becouse i dont wanna use axes -_-

in lod using swords was a BIG NO NO
and i cant see HOW THE **** BLIZZARD made that little axe hit with the same range as the most almighty long sword :embarassed:

its just plain stupid

[goomba]

for ****s n giggles, I have an old 1.09 baba, that had 4 exes that I switch through just to style with.

3 are 6 socket ones... one has all p topazs, one has all p emeralds

one is a legit 201 or so, leachy with added elemental damage

the final one I think had 5 p saphires, and 1 p emerald. I'm not certain I still have this one, and it's been a few months since I really checked on the items/stats of chars on that old account (it's mostly a mule account these days that I only jump on to make sure the chars haven't expired)

with all the mart, bh, and naga baba's, it's fun to run around in a game with two brightly colored exes and have people guessing what they are.

(the old Psk/SS is easy to spot a mile away, but when people see a pure green, red, or yellow exe their curiousity is piqued)

[WarlockCC]

How come swords are a big nono in LoD then ?
I thought everybody was happy with one of those Cruel Colossus or Balrog blades. They where gathering so many chippies in 1.09 to try and make those things.

[sirwhere]

Fred mentioned you do get 50% more hit attempts, just like in LoD, when you wield 2 weapons in a WW.

Actually, that "50% more hits" is outdated info. In LOD both weapons are given a chance to score a hit, so it's not really 50% more but rather 100% more (except for the 1st hit where only the primary weapon gets to roll for a hit).

I don't know how dual-wielding whirlwind works in classic, but I guess it probably works the same way as LOD, except that frames in-between hit attempts don't depend on weapon speed (as they do in LOD dual-wielding ww).

For more info, read the latest WW tips at the Arreat Summit.

[Approon]

sounds not so bad so far but im gonna use swords ofc ;)

in diablo 2 classic its so much more about style and i like that
rares and big swords :grin:

[sirwhere]

sounds not so bad so far but im gonna use swords ofc ;)

in diablo 2 classic its so much more about style and i like that
rares and big swords :grin:

Of course. If you're going to win, why not doing it in STYLE? :rolleyes:

[Rawly]

okay to answer some questions

*ill play softcore and want to make a pvm barb for mere fun :smiley:
by that i mean more or less untwinked

i love the look of big swords :laugh:
so if someone could give a reason to use exec over naga

and yes i wont use a shield

If you are not using a shield you should go for 2 handed weapon a 1 handed weapon and shield just wont cut it in hell game with more than a couple of ppl.
2 handed acient axe do slightly more average damage than an exec and have a lot less req's (only 125 str req) and a range of 4 and they look quite nice, not as nice as a big exec but almost. If you set it up correctly you can use some +str items to exp with so your base str is <100 so you can wield a naga for pvp if needed at a later time.

[xXJuggernautXx]

Try find a godly red atleast with 170% ED -30 req exe =D

[Approon]

ive already upped my swordmastery now so
sword will be my choice :grin:

tough ancients axe sounds nice 2