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superdave
20-07-2006, 02:27
feel free to guess how far i can go with this hardcore zon.

playing single player...players 8
she will be naked or use cracked/damaged/low quality items only.
all passive build.
full clears.
no atma.

right now i am level 8 punching my way to the monestary graveyard....things will go a lot faster when i can *****slap bloodraven and get a rogue.

MysticDragon
20-07-2006, 03:28
10 bucks says that you won't get past Act 1. I mean... wait... yep, Act 1. :grin: Unless you usually do these kinds of things.

superdave
20-07-2006, 04:03
i finished hell with a cracked bow...i can't take your bet though...it would be like taking candy from a baby. :wink2:

duriel will be a pain.
lvl 13 and i have done a full clear of everything up to and including stony.

YogiRat
20-07-2006, 04:59
Yep, Durry will be hard but you will deal with it, or rather the merc will with his Malice Brandistock :wink2: Big D will fry you unless you make some effort to get resists. If you stay with the cracked/damaged stuff, you will be Diablo-burger, Dave.:badteeth:

Dacar92
20-07-2006, 05:17
Bored? How about deeds at Durance 3. Some little dolly will get you.

superdave
20-07-2006, 05:29
Bored? How about deeds at Durance 3. Some little dolly will get you.
i am in a constant state of boredom.

i am just popping into to see the countess...this will take a long time to because i am doing full clears...yogi i haven't found ONE rune yet so i don't think i will be putting malice in anything...maybe the countess will be nice to me...i don't plan on doing any boss runs so she better give me something good...i won't see her again until nm....i am going to stick with all cracked items...i will use some bling so i can get some resists there if i am lucky.

slynth
20-07-2006, 06:02
i am in a constant state of boredom.

i am just popping into to see the countess...this will take a long time to because i am doing full clears...yogi i haven't found ONE rune yet so i don't think i will be putting malice in anything...maybe the countess will be nice to me...i don't plan on doing any boss runs so she better give me something good...i won't see her again until nm....i am going to stick with all cracked items...i will use some bling so i can get some resists there if i am lucky.

Can your merc use anything, then?

superdave
20-07-2006, 06:24
Can your merc use anything, then?
whatever i can find...right now i still have my 1st rogue...i haven't had to resurrect her once...she is using a rare skullcap, a jewelled short bow and artic furs(the only set item that has dropped)...i made my 1st game save after finishing the countess(nef) and the hole.

Lyrs
20-07-2006, 06:32
act3 flayers

nebux
20-07-2006, 07:12
the merc should use cracked items too.
some light bugs in act II would finish you

TurbulentTurtle
20-07-2006, 07:40
I don't think you'll be passing act 1... Good luck though Dave.

PhatTrumpet
20-07-2006, 15:27
Ye of little faith.

Chalk up another vote for "torched by El Diablo". :cool:

jimmah
20-07-2006, 15:54
Mephs ice ball will get ya. RIP.

AZ Death
20-07-2006, 21:52
Dave you have too much patience. But I say that you make it through andy and up to duriel. He will kill you though!!!DIE DAVE DIE!!!! LOL

windwingwind
20-07-2006, 22:39
You are too bored, Dave.

I guess NM act 4 city of the damned

OmegaDreg
20-07-2006, 22:54
i say radament. Due to the poison length.

SirDooFuss
20-07-2006, 23:09
If this was anything but Players 8, I'd say you would go all the way. But on players 8...I'll vote for Normal Ancients.

Bigru
21-07-2006, 00:19
you wont die ever ^^, this could actually happen if you managed to find some good stuff for your merc, allthough hell travi would be f***ing hard ^^

Dacar92
21-07-2006, 00:42
Let's watch the language.




If he makes it into Act 5, I say he gets to use a Wirts Leg as a weapon. 2 socket one, too. What should he put in there?

Bigru
21-07-2006, 01:00
the 40/15 jewels you always find in norm obviously.

oh and can you get low quality wirt legs?

SSoG
21-07-2006, 01:13
I think a lot of this depends on your playing skillz.

I know someone who's made it all the way to Normal Baal with a HC Sorceress who never equipped a single item (on herself OR her merc), and never spent a single skill or stat point. Being able to equip your merc and spend points on passives and Vit should take you at least that far, even if you *are* on Players 8.

I vote that you either lose your character to Nightmare Diablo (who'll tear down your merc too quickly and leave you unable to finish him off), or sheer boredom.

superdave
21-07-2006, 03:18
who had me down for deeds at andariel? (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot143-1.jpg)

donate that 10 bux to charity in my name.... andariel got knocked cold. (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot145.jpg)

tinncann25
21-07-2006, 03:34
lol
this was is the dumbest thing u have done....except for quiting east =p

good luck i vote all the way to a3..the lil ppl will eat u

superdave
21-07-2006, 03:37
lol
this was is the dumbest thing u have done....except for quiting east =p

good luck i vote all the way to a3..the lil ppl will eat u

i still have a ladder girl on east...i played on her 2 nights ago....for only 10 minutes. :embarassed:

edit...did someone say radament? he was easier than andariel....i think i may have to go back and redo andy...i don't remember if i cleared behind her throne before i went to act 2.

thulsa
21-07-2006, 04:53
Hmm, superdave is preeeeetttyyyy good from what I understand and have heard about....I will go for Nightmare Act Three Meph.

Quietus
21-07-2006, 05:36
I call chaos sanc. IM will be a pain, if he's pure passives, and particularly if he picks up an a2 merc.

pancakeman
21-07-2006, 05:59
I think you should be able to use anything you get from act bosses, Dave. However, you can't run them. First time only.

SSoG
21-07-2006, 06:07
I call chaos sanc. IM will be a pain, if he's pure passives, and particularly if he picks up an a2 merc.
An A1 or A3 Merc will mow through the Chaos Sanctuary, and is probably better-suited for taking on Big D, anyway, since the fact that (s)he's ranged will give him/her a bit more survival time.

Uchiha Sasuke
21-07-2006, 10:04
You punched andy to death?

Heidegger
21-07-2006, 16:29
Personally I think that a maxxed valk could probably do it alone, but it would be AWFULLY long and tedious. Bit of a masochist?

superdave
21-07-2006, 16:32
An A1 or A3 Merc will mow through the Chaos Sanctuary, and is probably better-suited for taking on Big D, anyway, since the fact that (s)he's ranged will give him/her a bit more survival time.

i plan on keeping the act1 merc for as long as possible...i will be good for awhile if i can get a decoy...i may have to put a few points into energy....you can't carry enough potions on a cracked sash.

yes...i did punch andy to death...my merc was helping out though...she still hasn't deeded....came close last night in the sewers though....i was in the middle of a blessed pack of fire archers and i lost count on my slow missile spell...i thought i had three more seconds.

Uchiha Sasuke
21-07-2006, 18:13
I bet you'll finish the game. Gogo valk.

Xenon[XoA]
21-07-2006, 18:28
nightmare diablo

SoulSurvivor
21-07-2006, 18:50
hell act 4, plains of despair you'll hit a pack of fanatical souls and they'll kill you from a screen away. that is assuming you don't die of natural causes earlier.

Dennis_KoreanGuy
21-07-2006, 19:10
Farthest I made in SP is always sewers. After sewers the quietness of the game always gets me... and this was 1 player, best items I find, all directed for pvm low lvl build, and still...

gl. sounds fun. I'd never have the patience to finish it.

Uchiha Sasuke
21-07-2006, 20:23
']nightmare diablo
Oh... nm and hell too huh?


Nm andy, ftw. =/

tinncann25
21-07-2006, 21:58
i vote that superdave himself will die by norm baal =p

for a brain hemorage watching his zon punch things billions of times

Baranor
21-07-2006, 22:03
big d, act 4. norm.

Now go and prove me wrong Dave. You're my hero!

superdave
22-07-2006, 01:50
well i have made it to the far oasis...every door has been opened and every monster kill up to this point(except for the few behind andy's throne...that is still bugging me)...i cubed up all of my gems and i now have 4 runes...a pair of nefs and a pair of els!!!
my merc is still using a gemmed hunters bow...i lucked out and picked up a cold damage charm so i can tank for my merc...if i can punch them i can slow the monsters down now.
i am 2 lvls away from getting a decoy...once i have one it will be smooth sailing.
i hate the maggot lair almost as much as i hate duriel.

barry...how far did your guided arrow hc zon make it?

superdave
22-07-2006, 05:44
last update for the day....ready to enter the palce now....decoy saved me from fangskin and his boys.

TheBassman
22-07-2006, 06:19
Wow, go Superdave, I've been reading your posts and I'm impressed, with the items you're using this is quite a challenge. That being said my guess to your survival will be Act 5 Lister Hell mode, prove me wrong please for I want to see you complete then game =P.

:cool:

~LesC

sirmessbu
22-07-2006, 07:39
Hell yeah Superdave!

Nice to see you back with an impressive challenge.

Estimation; never underestimate Superdave. He should live to kill hell Baal.

Dacar92
22-07-2006, 17:19
GL with Dury. He can hit hard. I still think a doll will get you in Durance. Those sneaky little &^%$#'s

SirDooFuss
22-07-2006, 19:38
...playing single player...players 8...full clears.


Hmmmm, "full clears"...does that mean you're doing Nilly too???:shocked:

I think I'll revise my deeds guess to normal nilly.

superdave
22-07-2006, 19:48
Hmmmm, "full clears"...does that mean you're doing Nilly too???:shocked:

I think I'll revise my deeds guess to normal nilly.

i am opening every door and killing every monster...my maps are complete up to arcane sanctuary.

Evrae Altana
23-07-2006, 05:25
I think you'll croak when you get to NM Diablo.


OT-must you use that avatar again? :worry:

superdave
23-07-2006, 07:32
well i finally cleared all of the tombs...i think i took me about 3/4 of an hour to do each one...not fun.
my little rogue scout hireling in now an honorary amazon...she killed everything up to duriel with just a chipped gem hunters bow....i never had to resurrect her...i think the last time i had to feed her a pot was at andariel....she was able to take duriel down past half life...my hand started cramping up it was taking so long that i decided to hire an act 2 merc....i had the runes for malice and put them in a sloooooow bardiche(it's the only stick i found with three holes)....i was able to cube 8 full juves...i have 3 left.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot153.jpg

i was two lvls shy of getting a valk.

YogiRat
23-07-2006, 07:54
Que es que 'was' bro?

superdave
23-07-2006, 07:57
Que es que 'was' bro?

sorry..."was" two lvls from getting a valk when i kicked duriels ***. :grin: i wanted to be lvl 30 when i fought him.

act 3 tomorrow. :flip:

Evrae Altana
23-07-2006, 08:20
Good luck getting through Flayer Jungle Dave. Dartboys will rip many tiny holes in your amazon's body. Hope Witchdoctor Endugu doesn't burn you to a crisp. :grin:

superdave
23-07-2006, 23:01
Good luck getting through Flayer Jungle Dave. Dartboys will rip many tiny holes in your amazon's body. Hope Witchdoctor Endugu doesn't burn you to a crisp. :grin:

hey nub...the little people are no more...they gave it up easier than i gave up my lunch money to the school bully.

i would have finished them off sooner but i got lost in the great marsh...i'm a big noob. :embarassed: ran into a blessed pack of undead soul killers and gloams in the swampy pit...they even killed my merc.

i haven't figured out how to take out the council yet...maybe i will try them tonight.

conor rocks
23-07-2006, 23:38
try lure 1 out 1 by 1 and use slow missles on there hydras.

Evrae Altana
23-07-2006, 23:39
What's your gear at this point?

superdave
23-07-2006, 23:45
What's your gear at this point?
same as i had in act one...i won't be changing it...i think my total def is 41.
cracked sash, leather armor, skull cap, leather gloves, small shield and heavy boots...ammy and rings all have some resists...i will upgrade these when i find better.

CoRRuPt-OnE
24-07-2006, 01:25
What wep will you be using? I think Act 4 has your name on it. Not sure where your gonna die yet though... Maybe the Chaos Sanctuary will take you on.

SirDooFuss
24-07-2006, 01:47
What wep will you be using? .

I don't think he's going to be using a weapon at all. As he said in the original post, it's a strictly "passive" build. So no damage from anything but merc and (when level 30) valk. Oh yeah, she can use her fists.:rolleyes:

nickedoff
24-07-2006, 01:56
Oh yeah, she can use her fists.
She could still equip a cracked bow or javelin for minor long-range damage.

YogiRat
24-07-2006, 02:13
She could still equip a cracked bow or javelin for minor long-range damage.

Nah, that would be too conformist. Dave should throw pots to avoid IM.:laugh:

superdave
24-07-2006, 02:43
Nah, that would be too conformist. Dave should throw pots to avoid IM.:laugh:
haha...when i get bored i toss some pots...if blizzard ever comes out with a new patch that is one thing i would like to see changed...increase the damage on those so you could have a viable potion thrower...i am just clearing trav now so i will have plenty of room to retreat when i do the council.

edit...council was easy...i just stormed their stronghold and my merc and valk picked them off...i didn't use any full juves so i should have enough to get me to meph.

who had me down for deeding at the dolls? we will find out tomorrow if you are right.

Dacar92
24-07-2006, 03:44
who had me down for deeding at the dolls? we will find out tomorrow if you are right.


That was me. I hope I am wrong. I got stormed by about 8 of them once with a zon and they took my life down to a sliver. I had to use all my full rejuvs on that level and had none left for mephy that time. GL!

superdave
24-07-2006, 04:51
That was me. I hope I am wrong. I got stormed by about 8 of them once with a zon and they took my life down to a sliver. I had to use all my full rejuvs on that level and had none left for mephy that time. GL!

how much damage can a normal undead stygian doll do? i think i will be ok. :wink3:

NewForumBloke
24-07-2006, 07:43
Superdave, you truely are aw inspiring! I've kept my eyes on this thread for a few days now and i think im ready to place my bet :D!

I say baal minions are going to probably be the end of you. Unless your merc+valk are just crazy good by then lol.

God speed superdave! BLoke's rooting for you!

-BLoke :smug:

JanusJones
24-07-2006, 17:40
What, no votes for the Ancients? I think they're pretty unreasonable with an average character . . . but for one with a Vow of Poverty? Eeeeek! :shocked:

Xenon[XoA]
24-07-2006, 18:03
Superdave, you truely are aw inspiring! I've kept my eyes on this thread for a few days now and i think im ready to place my bet :D!

I say baal minions are going to probably be the end of you. Unless your merc+valk are just crazy good by then lol.

God speed superdave! BLoke's rooting for you!

-BLoke :smug:
you don't hafta kill the minions to get to baal though :P

superdave
24-07-2006, 18:12
']you don't hafta kill the minions to get to baal though :P

you do if you are doing full clears.:wink3:

SirDooFuss
24-07-2006, 18:40
What, no votes for the Ancients? I think they're pretty unreasonable with an average character . . . but for one with a Vow of Poverty? Eeeeek! :shocked:

My original vote was fo normal ancients (see page 2), but I revised it when I realized "full clears" mean nilly too! :shocked:

Go Go Superdave!!!

Milb
24-07-2006, 21:50
Bah, triple post, sorry!

Milb
24-07-2006, 21:50
..........

Milb
24-07-2006, 21:50
Here's some inspiration (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=459485) for you if you haven't already seen it :smiley:

I'll guess NM Andy will get you :tongue:

Good luck and prove me wrong!

Ikeren
24-07-2006, 23:59
I am actually going to guess Hell: The Frozen River during Anya's quest. It is always a nasty area full of gloams and stygian furies...

superdave
25-07-2006, 00:49
update....a picture is worth a thousand words.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot158.jpg

Dacar92
25-07-2006, 04:27
update....a picture is worth a thousand words.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot158.jpg


Darn, darn, darn!!!


Oh well, this just means I get to guess again!

Seriously, congrats. How long did it take? How was the council down there? Any dolls scare you?

superdave
25-07-2006, 04:56
i had a blessed pack of dolls try to tickle me...i had to run the council again to get into the durance...they were easier this time....the council in the durance were a bit of a pain because they had their buddies helping them out...meph was slow...maybe 20 minutes.

izual was longer; my merc and valk fought him for 45 minutes....i will try the chaos sanctuary tomorrow...i picked up a nef on my forge.

i think most people had me deeding by diablo...we will see.

PhatTrumpet
25-07-2006, 05:07
45 minutes on one monster is something I simply cannot fathom. I give up on a turd after about five minutes of pushin'.

superdave
25-07-2006, 05:10
45 minutes on one monster is something I simply cannot fathom. I give up on a turd after about five minutes of pushin'.

try reading a book...that's what i did.

Dacar92
25-07-2006, 05:15
45 minutes on one monster is something I simply cannot fathom. I give up on a turd after about five minutes of pushin'.


Now that's a lack of patience. My family waits in the car for me sometimes!

TheBassman
25-07-2006, 06:32
Dave you never cease to amaze everyone in this forum. Although this may be very difficult I don't see any deeds in your future :grin: Just keep on pushing through! We believe in you.... well some do anyways :cool:

~LesC

SMoKIN FaLLeNx
25-07-2006, 06:36
You Superdave i have to say i'v only started reading the Fourms while these Slackers think your going down i believe you will go all the way i think the only 3 challanges will be.. Hell NILI Hell Anchients Hell Diablo but i believe you can go all the way GO SUPERDAVE!

adecoy
25-07-2006, 08:26
i think baals minions will bring him down in hell.


that is, unless he finds a way to seperate them, and if you can, lets just hope you dont get a bad roll on the lister immunities.

so, what charms are you using?



oh and i forgot.... black souls (shiver)

:shocked:

tinncann25
25-07-2006, 12:21
my computer is down. I havent played d2 in a week. Getting a new computer in a week

...but im still keeping up with this thread =p

superdave i think ur going down trav in nm

thulsa
25-07-2006, 13:11
Darn, darn, darn!!!


Oh well, this just means I get to guess again!

I said/indicated within this thread previously: the man is "gosu."
I mean just check and recheck his avatar, it says it all: "GOSU."

:wink3:
Go, Go Gadget Gosu!!
You go get'em superdave. :flip:

MerCz
25-07-2006, 13:58
your my hero dave!
I think i might try this myself sounds like a fun challenge and btw

i guess countress nightmare if u wont use Ancient's Pledge
gl! :thumbsup:

SMoKIN FaLLeNx
26-07-2006, 02:21
Go Dave go woot :P

superdave
26-07-2006, 02:43
superdave 1 diablo 0 (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot162.jpg)

elapsed time to kill 2 h 36 min...no merc, valk only. :jig:

Dacar92
26-07-2006, 03:31
2.5 hrs to kill big D? What, did you just put it on auto pilot and take a vacation?

Anyway, nice work.

Hand tired? Carpel tunnel syndrome yet?

tinncann25
26-07-2006, 03:43
i think superdave is in a state of depression ...denial that he is doing nothing productive

Zalcitabine
26-07-2006, 06:47
Doing uber-trist with her after this Dave? :P

SirDooFuss
26-07-2006, 08:00
superdave 1 diablo 0 (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot162.jpg)

elapsed time to kill 2 h 36 min...no merc, valk only. :jig:

...and I thought I was the patient one!:shocked:

druidkid9
26-07-2006, 10:56
2.5 hours?!!!!!!! wow dude you must either 1 have no life or 2 really wanting to make this guy through hell.. i think you got till NM pretty much any where cuz if it take you 2.5 hours to kill diablo a basic monstor with will be like 30 mins and that is like a goul or summing. soon your valk will die plus ur merc and you will have no army and be swarmed by 10-20 guys and GG!!!!! but i like your courage! keep it up.....but for a tip go out with friends and stuff. OR make a faster killing character 2.5 hours i could like finish normal by the time it take you to kill 1 guy ( diablo!)

MuntarDrake
26-07-2006, 11:52
Have you done the Secret Cow level yet? If not, ill wager you buy the farm there.

NoobXDon
26-07-2006, 15:20
2.5 hours?!!!!!!! wow dude you must either 1 have no life or 2 really wanting to make this guy through hell.. i think you got till NM pretty much any where cuz if it take you 2.5 hours to kill diablo a basic monstor with will be like 30 mins and that is like a goul or summing. soon your valk will die plus ur merc and you will have no army and be swarmed by 10-20 guys and GG!!!!! but i like your courage! keep it up.....but for a tip go out with friends and stuff. OR make a faster killing character 2.5 hours i could like finish normal by the time it take you to kill 1 guy ( diablo!)


anyone can make a cookie cutter build. superdave prolly has enough characters to finish the game in a few hours. the point of this thread is to beat the game with a passive zon with CRACKED items. maybe if you actually read the beginning of this thread, you might have understood that.

oh and i've never actually seen someone talk like a valley girl in text format. not to mention the fact that your grammar is horrendous. your post has 13 year old written all over it.

OR make a faster killing character 2.5 hours i could like finish normal by the time it take you to kill 1 guy ( diablo!)

OT: 600th post

NewForumBloke
26-07-2006, 16:54
My vote stays, and just out of curiousity whats in line for you next after the passive zon? O and btw, what lvl is she atm? I dont think ive ever seen you post her lvl/skills/stats so far :P

:thumbsup:

-BLoke :smug:

superdave
26-07-2006, 17:22
My vote stays, and just out of curiousity whats in line for you next after the passive zon? O and btw, what lvl is she atm? I dont think ive ever seen you post her lvl/skills/stats so far :P

:thumbsup:

-BLoke :smug:

i believe she is lvl 34 or 35...stats can be figured out easy enough:wink3: ...i will post a screenshot of her skills tonight...actually you can probably guess at skills...valk and anything that synergizes.

superdave
27-07-2006, 05:57
i couldn't kill these guys.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot164.jpg

but i got these ones.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot166.jpg

nihlathak tomorrow. :yikes:

Evrae Altana
27-07-2006, 08:10
*prepares to read Dave's deeds screenie*

superdave
27-07-2006, 16:01
*prepares to read Dave's deeds screenie*
eat those words.

i got up close and personal with this guy (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot168.jpg)

he was a pushover. (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot169.jpg)

personalized cracked sash. (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot170.jpg)

NoobXDon
27-07-2006, 16:04
that sash is godly.

NewForumBloke
27-07-2006, 18:35
You guys realize that that sash is now worth 100x the best item you can find :laugh: lol

PhatTrumpet
27-07-2006, 18:48
*prepares to read Dave's deeds screenie*
Nihlathak really isn't such a big deal on normal, especially considering how dave could just stand back and let his merc/valk absorb all the damage.

I revise my guess to a conditional... seeing as you already pwned Normal Diablo:

- if you tend to reroll monster spawns and eventually find decent gear for your Merc (CB/OW particularly), you will go all the way
- if you don't reroll monster spawns, Gloams will get you in Hell
- if you don't find decent gear for your Merc, you will eventually come to the point where your damage output simply can't keep up with monster regen

P.S. - What do you plan to do about phys immunes?

superdave
27-07-2006, 18:56
i am doing a single clear only of all areas(not re-running any or if i do have to save and re-run i am only killing the few monsters i have to to get to a new area...everything that drops stays on the ground from re-kills)...whatever monsters spawn, i kill or am killed...my merc is wearing blue armour and hat...i haven't decided what to do about phys immunes yet.

thulsa
27-07-2006, 19:04
Underestimation appears to be the 'a' typical norm for some here, still.
superdave pwnz and he is simply showing it, albeit, to the disdain and unspoken amazement of some here...

Keep the faith, for I am.
You go Dave, though I am still banking on Nightmare Durance/Meph, but I am sure that I will be pleasantly disappointed when you post the screenie of NM Meph going down. :thumbsup:

taiga
27-07-2006, 19:31
Say hello to NM Rakanitsu (spelling...) from me... This is going to be the end of you Superdave! ...i hope i am wrong...

superdave
27-07-2006, 19:40
it would be just a tad embarrassing to be picked off by a nm fallen after taking out baal in normal...if that happens i am not telling anyone how i deeded. :embarassed:

taiga
27-07-2006, 20:03
Thats the same thing i thought... After that my trapper was gone... :cry:

Cope
27-07-2006, 21:21
I don't have any experience with valkyries since they were beefed up so it's hard for me to say...but I'll go with...hell Diablo. That sure would take a long time to do I should think if you're successful. I hope you prove me wrong though and make it all the way.

Zalcitabine
27-07-2006, 23:04
Heh that nihl screenie is kinda gore-ful :D

Looks like he had the time to CE alot

SirDooFuss
28-07-2006, 00:40
eat those words.

i got up close and personal with this guy (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot168.jpg)

he was a pushover. (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot169.jpg)

personalized cracked sash. (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot170.jpg)

*chomp* *chomp* *chomp*

Bleah!

Okay, I've eaten my words and a good dose of humble pie.
You rock dude!

The children of my village will sing of you!:point:

superdave
28-07-2006, 02:29
let's not spoil this moment we are sharing by talking...just look at my screenshots and hold my hand. :wink3:


ANCIENTS
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot172.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot173.jpg

MINIONS(i only had to back up a little before i had them nicely separated into 3 groups...i only let my merc fight one at a time.)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot176.jpg

BAAL(12 minutes 34 seconds)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot177.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot180.jpg
(he dropped the first unique i have seen with this girl...7 set items...zero mf)

TYREAL and CAIN appreciate the help.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot185.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot184.jpg

DESTROYER anna_goanna(the name i use for all of my single player girls)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot186.jpg

TheBassman
28-07-2006, 03:08
*Golf Clap*... :grin:

~LesC

Evrae Altana
28-07-2006, 03:22
It's nightmare time Dave!
Playtime is over!
You're going down....:evil:

TheBassman
28-07-2006, 05:51
Whatever Evrae... Dave will never go down! GOGO superdave!

:cool:

~LesC

rendo
28-07-2006, 05:56
SuperDave is my hero.... I mean the TV guy. He was insane. And if this guy is anything like him, he can solo hell with 8 players and -1000 resists. Sure he'll get smacked around, and probably put in a body cast, but it's SuperDave, he never dies!

Baranor
28-07-2006, 11:36
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Dave! Nice going mate! Good that I was wrong :)

windwingwind
28-07-2006, 14:04
Good job Dave ^^

I wonder why diablo took significant longer time for you to deal with than Baal? Any good merc item you found on the way?

superdave
28-07-2006, 15:55
Good job Dave ^^

I wonder why diablo took significant longer time for you to deal with than Baal? Any good merc item you found on the way?

by the time i reached baal my merc was a high enough lvl that he could take a few hits....diablo could one hit kill, him so it wasn't worth pumping potions in him....i used valk only to kill diablo....by the time i hit baal the merc and valk werc quite a few levels higher....diablo also has a nasty habit of freezing anyone he hits so that slows things down to a crawl....my merc is wearing the same gear that he had in act3.

NoobXDon
28-07-2006, 16:43
diablo has always been the hardest boss to fight. he has better AI then baal.

SirDooFuss
28-07-2006, 16:52
SUPERdave,

Does your merc have some Open Wounds action going on? Thats a lot of slippery slop on the ground in those screenshots!:rolleyes:

Congrats by the way!

superdave
28-07-2006, 19:06
SUPERdave,

Does your merc have some Open Wounds action going on? Thats a lot of slippery slop on the ground in those screenshots!:rolleyes:

Congrats by the way!
MALICE :laugh:

NewForumBloke
28-07-2006, 20:41
Well, i was wrong! lol congrats superdave, i dont think your even going to flinch in nm. I hope your skills will be sufficient for hell, b/c we all know your going there ( with the zon of course) :grin:

ilovesoda
28-07-2006, 20:55
Well, i was wrong! lol congrats superdave, i dont think your even going to flinch in nm. I hope your skills will be sufficient for hell, b/c we all know your going there ( with the zon of course) :grin:haha u forgot 2 write - BloKe
Regarding superdave this is absolutely insane, but he'll finish hell, i'm 5% sure.

SoulSurvivor
28-07-2006, 21:25
do your full clears include the cow level?

SirDooFuss
28-07-2006, 21:43
MALICE :laugh:

Oh man! I think that was the first runeword I ever made way back when runes first came out in v1.09. My Jabazon (!!!) put it in a Maiden Spear and had just enough replenish life to be able to use it without dieing. I eventually turned her into a hybrid.

I hope you go ALL THE WAY!!!:sunny:

superdave
29-07-2006, 01:17
do your full clears include the cow level?

i forgot about cows...i will have to do them tonight or tomorrow. :wink3:


sirdoofus....i have another set of malice runes....i hope to fid a pole that does some better damage and is a little faster...if i am lucky that will get me to late NM.

superdave
29-07-2006, 06:33
update...

cows are done the king was nice enough to drop an arcanna's hat...cheapskate.

i found myself getting hit bad by some elemental attacks so i made a prismatic amulet...a cookie for anyone that remembers how to do it.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot188.jpg

i also made a couple blood helms for my merc...i think this is the one he is using now...only a little life leech and a small chance at deadly strike but it is better than the rare he had....i made a new malice in a voulge.(still slow but a few more points of damage...i need an el and i will have another malice rune set if i ever find a nice eth exceptional pole)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot189.jpg

who said i would deed at rakanishu?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot190.jpg

i have gone as far as the black marsh...countess tomorrow.
:thumbsup:

Cope
29-07-2006, 07:08
Good work so far, I'm hoping hell Baal goes down.

I never actually knew about this before (and I thought I knew everything!):


6 Perfect Gems (1 of each type) + 1 Amulet (Magic) = Prismatic Amulet
Use this formula to create an Amulet with Resistance to all. ilvl = 50. The amulet will always have the Prismatic prefix (All Resistances +16-20) and has a chance at getting a suffix as well.

superdave
29-07-2006, 19:40
this is one thing you never want to see when you are doing the countess

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot192.jpg

you can't see it from the screenshot but there is also a might aura goatman in that mess....my lvl 50 merc with 825 life and 2000 defense was insta-killed...that valk is seriously pumped...she is maxed and heavily synergized...look at her life bar...thank god for decoy.

kferny
29-07-2006, 22:07
this is one thing you never want to see when you are doing the countess

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot192.jpg

you can't see it from the screenshot but there is also a might aura goatman in that mess....my lvl 50 merc with 825 life and 2000 defense was insta-killed...that valk is seriously pumped...she is maxed and heavily synergized...look at her life bar...thank god for decoy.
zomfg-zilla thats scarry:shocked:
especially naked
how long did that take?

Thyiad
29-07-2006, 22:36
Dude that girl deserves a lot more than dinner and movie.

superdave
30-07-2006, 05:25
update....

nm andariel (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot197.jpg) didn't give up any rings or ammies. :cry:

Lyrs
30-07-2006, 06:45
Goatman in front, archers in back. Fanatic aura on all of them.

That's a nightmare scenario for any HC character.

SirDooFuss
30-07-2006, 19:08
this is one thing you never want to see when you are doing the countess

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot192.jpg

you can't see it from the screenshot but there is also a might aura goatman in that mess....my lvl 50 merc with 825 life and 2000 defense was insta-killed...that valk is seriously pumped...she is maxed and heavily synergized...look at her life bar...thank god for decoy.

Three words...

Exit

Create Game

:wink3:

superdave
30-07-2006, 20:12
Three words...

Exit

Create Game

:wink3:

that's cheating...it's them or me.
i have backed out of a few sticky spots but i won't exit. :smiley:

SSoG
30-07-2006, 20:54
i am doing a single clear only of all areas(not re-running any or if i do have to save and re-run i am only killing the few monsters i have to to get to a new area...everything that drops stays on the ground from re-kills)...whatever monsters spawn, i kill or am killed...my merc is wearing blue armour and hat...i haven't decided what to do about phys immunes yet.
If you're on Ladder, a Harmony Rogue works wonders against PIs, and it's just cheap enough that you *might* be able to afford it without re-running areas. Probably not, but maybe. Otherwise, shop Shocking Bows, or give her anything with good Deadly Strike (which doubles physical *AND* elemental damage on Mercs). Or you could always use an A3 Cold Wolf, which can actually kill in Hell. Eventually.

Merc-swapping is a time-honored practice with deviant characters. :)

yelopen
30-07-2006, 23:34
If you're on Ladder, a Harmony Rogue works wonders against PIs, and it's just cheap enough that you *might* be able to afford it without re-running areas. Probably not, but maybe. Otherwise, shop Shocking Bows, or give her anything with good Deadly Strike (which doubles physical *AND* elemental damage on Mercs). Or you could always use an A3 Cold Wolf, which can actually kill in Hell. Eventually.
Merc-swapping is a time-honored practice with deviant characters. :)

feel free to guess how far i can go with this hardcore zon.

playing single player...players 8
she will be naked or use cracked/damaged/low quality items only.
all passive build.
full clears.
no atma.

right now i am level 8 punching my way to the monestary graveyard....things will go a lot faster when i can *****slap bloodraven and get a rogue.

:brainiac:

superdave
31-07-2006, 01:22
there may come a time when i will swap out the current merc for an act 3 merc to help deal with phys immunes...the plan is to get a might merc tonight to speed up the killing...the might aura will make the valk even better....i debated going with a holy freeze but i think it will be safer to decrease the time that battles take especially with the bosses....it only takes one slip up to deed with those guys.

ps...i would love to make a harmony bow. :wink3:

superdave
31-07-2006, 03:48
update....

NM radament. (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot199.jpg)


If he makes it into Act 5, I say he gets to use a Wirts Leg as a weapon. 2 socket one, too. What should he put in there?

when i did cows i got a 3 socket wirt's leg....i clicked the body and then started to click at the pile of loot...i could swear that i saw a grey leg pop out but when i finished picking everything up it wasn't in my inventory...can you guess where i finally found the leg?

razorman
31-07-2006, 04:16
was it in ur secondary weapon slot??

superdave
31-07-2006, 04:19
was it in ur secondary weapon slot??

it equipped to my primary weapon slot because i have never carried a weapon...it took me a few seconds to figure out that something on my girl look different.
/homer simpson doh!

Evrae Altana
31-07-2006, 04:35
Do you think you'll have trouble with NM Duriel Dave?

superdave
31-07-2006, 04:59
Do you think you'll have trouble with NM Duriel Dave?
i think i will have problems just getting to nm duriel...now that i have a pumped valk he may be easier than normal duriel.

leetserv
31-07-2006, 10:58
Omg you are my hero. Keep it up ^^

My bet is you will die from gloams in hell.

NewForumBloke
31-07-2006, 17:32
Would it be against your rules for you to shop say a tap wand? Then you could cast that on monsters allowing for your merc/valk to leech=survive longer :D. Maybe you could have a variety of them :shocked: (assuming this doesnt go against your original idea) You would still remain a non offensive source, but you would at least be able to assist in the survivability of your merc/valk. Hell a dim vision wand could definately help with the Canyon area (i think dim spawns on wands)

Keep goin with it SuperDave!

-BLoke :smug:

superdave
31-07-2006, 17:39
nope i am only using cracked or low quality items....no weapons....i am helping out my merc and valk with slow missiles and decoy...i am constantly repositioning them so they are not biting off more than they can chew....the decoy takes the brunt of all damage.

i have made it as far as the dry hills wp now...i will try to get as far as the snakes tonight.

superdave
01-08-2006, 03:09
update...i made it as far as the lost city...i ran across one of these in the maggot lair...immune to phys, stone skin and conviction aura...the light coming from the beetles in that room hurt....i had to lure the beetles out of range of the aura before i let my valk poke them.


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot202.jpg

Dacar92
01-08-2006, 04:14
update...i made it as far as the lost city...i ran across one of these in the maggot lair...immune to phys, stone skin and conviction aura...the light coming from the beetles in that room hurt....i had to lure the beetles out of range of the aura before i let my valk poke them.


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot202.jpg


That must have taken a while. I'll bet it regenerated almost as quickly as the valk dealt damage.

superdave
01-08-2006, 04:23
after i had the beetles out of the room it only took about a half hour...i went through a dozen valks before i spawned one that could kill it...those beetle were nasty...i almost bought the farm when my valk walked into the room and started poking them....i saw the conviction at the same time that i noticed the lightning coming at me.

Gungak
01-08-2006, 06:05
Im in awe dude.

When I started reading the thread, I was like "cool idea, I might have a go at this"
Then say the 2hours or whatever on diablo and.... I thouugh I would let you have the fun, and just keep reading this thread.

I hope you go all the way, unfortunatly I have you dying on the way to Hell Nihlathak, as far as memory serves, are not the Claw Vipers on the way bugged?
So they do physical damage instead of poison?

Another question I have is, have you experianced any lag let? What you do Just Tp to town?

SSoG
01-08-2006, 06:16
nope i am only using cracked or low quality items....no weapons....i am helping out my merc and valk with slow missiles and decoy...i am constantly repositioning them so they are not biting off more than they can chew....the decoy takes the brunt of all damage.

i have made it as far as the dry hills wp now...i will try to get as far as the snakes tonight.
No Inner Sight? That surprises me. Maxed Inner Sight frequently does more for your Valk's chance to hit than maxed Penetrate (not to mention the fact that it helps your Merc, too).

Evrae Altana
01-08-2006, 06:34
Another question I have is, have you experianced any lag let?He's doing this on Single Player, so no lag to worry about.

superdave
01-08-2006, 06:48
No Inner Sight? That surprises me. Maxed Inner Sight frequently does more for your Valk's chance to hit than maxed Penetrate (not to mention the fact that it helps your Merc, too).

1 pt in inner sight so far....the valk should have a good chance to hit right up to act1 hell...by that time i will only have points left to distribute in penetrate and inner sight....right now i have a few more to place in decoy, d/a/e and critical before i will be convinced that she will be indestructible.

i still use my 1 pt inner sight to light up monsters when i am underground....my monitor is fritzed so i have my video settings turned to the brightest...even then a monster can be right beside me and i might not see it.

SoAmazing
01-08-2006, 17:18
dave is super!

superdave
02-08-2006, 16:50
update....

nothing to report...it has been so damn hot that i went to the bookstore and may spend the day in the park reading...as soon as the heat breaks i will try to make my way to the snakes...they say we get rain tomorrow.

Dacar92
02-08-2006, 19:48
update....

nothing to report...it has been so damn hot that i went to the bookstore and may spend the day in the park reading...as soon as the heat breaks i will try to make my way to the snakes...they say we get rain tomorrow.


How warm can it be in Canada???

Xenon[XoA]
02-08-2006, 19:57
How warm can it be in Canada???
Imagine a popsicle under a rocket engine.
Now, imagine yourself as the popsicle.

It's freaking hot up here >_<

Jackson
02-08-2006, 20:29
Just don't blame the heat if you die. =S

SSoG
02-08-2006, 22:24
']Imagine a popsicle under a rocket engine.
Now, imagine yourself as the popsicle.

It's freaking hot up here >_<
Question:
A lit rocket engine, or an unlit rocket engine? It makes quite a big difference, you see. :wink3:

TheBassman
02-08-2006, 23:23
']Imagine a popsicle under a rocket engine.
Now, imagine yourself as the popsicle.

It's freaking hot up here >_<

I'll second that! :grin:

I work at a grocery store and spent most of y day filling ice cream and dairy products to beat the heat. Not used to the heat... Comeback winter!!!

:laugh:

EDIT: Oh... ya... Go DAVE! :thumbsup:

~LesC

Quietus
02-08-2006, 23:38
Question:
A lit rocket engine, or an unlit rocket engine? It makes quite a big difference, you see. :wink3:


Lit. And burning.

From what I understand, it was well into the forties yesterday, with the humidex. Somewhere between 102 and 113 farenheit. Today seemed nicer, though to be fair, I was only out in the morning. I'm somewhat dreading the trip home. Hour and a half ride on public transit, and if I'm lucky, they have air conditioning.

Konfu
02-08-2006, 23:57
This is simply outstanding.

Good luck, don't die!

Dacar92
03-08-2006, 04:51
Dave, check this out:

http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=483495

xRoOx
03-08-2006, 05:33
Lol,102+ is like regular down here in Mississippi(no rain for over a month now)...but i can understand if yall are used to it...i went up to nebraska and about froze to death when they still had shorts on...anyway go dave, your adventures brighten up my day lol

Quietus
03-08-2006, 05:36
Dave, check this out:

http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=483495


I'm not sure where the real difference is - Dave's only equipping broken stuff, I doubt that the 100 extra defense (if that) will really help.

tinncann25
03-08-2006, 12:33
dave u gotta up ur restrictions now

no gear on merc and no valk and u must kill everything!

Wmeredith
03-08-2006, 15:24
Go, Dave, Go! :wink3:

SirDooFuss
04-08-2006, 00:24
dave u gotta up ur restrictions now

no gear on merc and no valk and u must kill everything!

Uh, is he allowed to use a mouse?

GO GO SUPERDAVE!!!

Jackson
04-08-2006, 01:35
No valk?? That defeats the purpose of an all passive zon, lol.

tinncann25
04-08-2006, 21:56
No valk?? That defeats the purpose of an all passive zon, lol.

Valk?? That defeats the purpose of an all challenging zon, lol

SirDooFuss
04-08-2006, 22:16
Hmmmmm... no updates or comments from SuperDave for couple of days...
He's probably been fighting some random boss monster pack for the entire time.:wink2:

STAY AWAKE SUPERDAVE!!!!

Evrae Altana
04-08-2006, 22:52
Or maybe he got destroyed by Fangskin and is now trying to think up of some way to blame it on lag. :grin: :tongue:

SirDooFuss
04-08-2006, 23:16
I wonder how old his hard drive is.

*Sniff* *Sniff*

Is that a motherboard I smell?:idea:

YogiRat
05-08-2006, 05:21
I think he might be outa town.

superdave
05-08-2006, 06:19
i'm back and i have a couple pictures for you guys to see.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot203.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot207.jpg

the trick is to keep your valk in front of the fat guy and let your merc stay out of harms way...if your valk gets knocked back he will immediately swing around to eat your merc...you can then cast a decoy behind him and he will swing back around...the merc could only take 2 hits...i used up 3 full juves in the fight.

Quietus
06-08-2006, 01:24
i'm back and i have a couple pictures for you guys to see.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot203.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot207.jpg

the trick is to keep your valk in front of the fat guy and let your merc stay out of harms way...if your valk gets knocked back he will immediately swing around to eat your merc...you can then cast a decoy behind him and he will swing back around...the merc could only take 2 hits...i used up 3 full juves in the fight.


Damn, nice - Rare ring and jewel, eh? Anything interesting?

superdave
06-08-2006, 01:28
made it as far as kurast...the marsh was full of gloams...the swampy pit and the flayer dungeon were both full of gloams AND undead soul killers...i almost got hosed by a blessed pack of soul killers...i thought i had some room to back up but a blessed pack of gloams cut off my escape...i couldn't even take a step...i had 6 full juves with me and used them all...my merc and valk were right in the middle of the dolls gleafully popping them...i was being hit by so much light that it took awhile to recast my valk out of the middle of the pack to a point directly behind the gloams...i got lucky and was finally able to recast my decoy a few feet behind the dolls...that gave me some room to run past...i caught a nasty explosion just as i made it by them...stupid merc! when they were all dead and i tp'ed back to town i had no potions left and only 14 life(not even enough to show a sliver of red in the bulb).

i thought about getting a screenshot but if i took my eyes off my red bulb for even a second i would have deeded.

i found two uniques...a pair of gorefoot(or should that be gorefeet?) and a stormstrike...i will probably start looking for a hat and armour for the merc with some holes for ptopazes...i might get lucky and find some endgame gear....if he has problems surviving with mf gear on i may just swap it out for boss kills....the muling restriction is starting to get me down...i found a 3/20/10 small charm that i had to leave on the ground.


edit...i saved the jewel and my merc is using the armour that dropped, nerve boy.

Quietus
06-08-2006, 01:33
Damn... I remember when I played HC on the realms. Those situations are exactly what gets the blood pumping. Scary, but when you survive it... ahh, such relief.

... Having to leave that charm sucks though. Glad that the jewel was worth keeping, though. :grin:

Jackson
06-08-2006, 01:39
Ahh... good thing you didn't die ^^

Evrae Altana
06-08-2006, 02:32
Goddamnit!
Sooooo close!
I'm sure the Councils will finally stick you! :grrrr:

superdave
06-08-2006, 06:22
we will find out tomorrow nub...i just picked up the trav wp. :tongue:

yelopen
06-08-2006, 07:32
Ooh dang, barely survived...and it sucks to have to leave that charm. Dang.

superdave
06-08-2006, 20:07
this is the safest way to take out the council if you have a pumped valk and a wimpy merc....
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot218.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot219.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot220.jpg

a UNIQUE RING! thank you maffer.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot223.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot224.jpg

i let my valk take Mephisto down to a sliver and then i let my merc who is wearing a 3 ptopaz hat take the last hit....
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot225.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot227.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot228.jpg

spoils...a boneflesh for my merc.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot229.jpg

Epheira
06-08-2006, 20:12
what uniq ring was it ? ^^

Nice going, ill keep reading

sirmessbu
06-08-2006, 20:36
I am still convince that you will beat the game in hell Superdave, just don't let me down:grin:

Jackson
06-08-2006, 21:10
Nice, nice... a beefed up valk and a merc taking on the prime evils..

SirDooFuss
06-08-2006, 22:24
Nice, nice... a beefed up valk and a merc taking on the prime evils..

I can imagine the adrenaline pumping when you almost bit it. What I can't imagine is playing without the option to exit and reroll the monsters.

GG SuperDave!!!!!

SirGalahad
06-08-2006, 23:04
That's nothing, I used a Merc a Val and a decoy to beat Duriel just because my damage sucked so much.

I've orderd up a few FrenzyTaurs to meet him in the Ancients way. That's my vote.

superdave
07-08-2006, 01:11
i forgot to mention...the unique ring was a nagel....i picked up another semi-godly small charm...this time a 3/17/15....i also picked up a skiller....barb combat.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot230.jpg

i got izual right at the bottom of the stairs...no chance to clear the rest of the mosnsters around him first...thing were going ok until a couple souls joined the fight.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot232.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot233.jpg

horror movie rule #37...NEVER TURN AROUND TO SEE WHAT IS BEHIND YOU.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot234.jpg

NM forge drop...hel.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot236.jpg

marcello
07-08-2006, 01:29
Jesus awesome! Really impressed! I think big D will take you down.

Evrae Altana
07-08-2006, 01:36
What level is she now?

superdave
07-08-2006, 01:43
i believe that she is lvl 67...full clears with no area re-runs.
both valk and decoy are maxed...i was tempted early on to put a few points into energy but i am glad now that i didn't...how much life can big d take away if he hits with his hose?
i did find a +3 to passives ammy that i may use.

Jackson
07-08-2006, 02:02
oooh. Have you had any CI's yet?

superdave
07-08-2006, 03:14
what's a ci?

last update for the day...

the infector of souls and his pals took awhile to take out...the floor was slippery with blood when the last one went down.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot237.jpg

BIG D didn't take that long to finish.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot239.jpg
my merc was too fragile to last.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot240.jpg
my valk stood toe to toe with him until the end...he had her in the yellow only once...when he was down to a sliver i went back to town and revived my merc so he could get the last hit in with his ptopaz hat...i recast my valk behind me so she wasn't in the fight...unfortunately diablo hosed my merc and i had to quickly recast the valk because he decided to ignore my decoy and spin my way...the drop sucked.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot241.jpg

ilovesoda
07-08-2006, 03:43
omfgwtfbbq AMAZINGZZZZZGFFGAFRSK! UBAR LEETZORZ GOGO KILL HELL BAAL YOU WILL DO IT GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSUPARDAVE FTW

SirDooFuss
07-08-2006, 18:56
what's a ci?

That's Connection Interrupted, a frequent challenge on the realms. SuperDave is doing this Single Player, as he said in the original post.

You remember the Realms, dontcha SuperDave????:flip:

superdave
08-08-2006, 05:55
realms?
vaguely, yes.

i have had the nastiest luck with monsters spawning...running up the bloody foothills i got damn quill rats and thrashers...usually i can safely follow a bunch of barbarians right up to shenk...the damn quill rats would poison every barbarian and then the thrashers would pound them into the ground...i didn't see a single LIVE barbarian in that run....a blessed pack of thrashers spawned at dac...extra fast and extra strong...my merc was instantly killed...they did to my valk what diablo couldn't do...they killed her...about a dozen times! it was too nasty to even think about trying to take a screen shot to show you guys...they almost got me when my valk and decoy were killed at the same time...they were fast. :yikes:

things got even worse when i finally killed shenk and climbed the stairs...ARCHERS...rogues AND skeletons...thank god for slow missile...it took forever to kill all of them.

after the ranged attackers i thought that things couldn't get worse...they could :cry: ....in abbadon hell witches and dolls...you don't want to be in an area with dolls when you are constantly amped by witches.


after such crappy luck, i was afraid to try for anya...i should have left her for another day...the combination of monsters down there has to be the scariest i have ever attempted...it took me hours to clear...hell witches(amped continually)+skeleton mages(frozen)+gloams(fried)....i am not trying to toot my own horn but i doubt that there are many players who could have saved anya...the damn witches would hover over the frozen water just out of range of melee attack...after my merc was amped he could only take a few blasts before he was done...there were so many blessed packs down there that i finally stopped resurrecting him and used just my valk...i was down to my last 50g and wanted to save my merc to help if i ever reached frozenstein.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot247.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot246.jpg
(bad shot...right before the entire screen was lit up from gloams)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot245.jpg

now level 70.

Evrae Altana
08-08-2006, 06:38
Drat! :rant:
My legions of Hell still can't bring you down!
I'm going to have to turn up the difficulty once you slay Nightmare Baal. :wink:

SirDooFuss
08-08-2006, 09:44
That sounds like one long suicide run.

SuperDave: Death Wish II

A major adrenaline pumping congratualtions on the journey thus far!

Dacar92
08-08-2006, 18:29
Drat! :rant:
My legions of Hell still can't bring you down!
I'm going to have to turn up the difficulty once you slay Nightmare Baal. :wink:


LOL! Sneak in there and turn on players 8 when he reaches hell. That would do it. Most SPers play hell at players 1.

Josiphos
08-08-2006, 19:34
Wow. This is amazing.

I'm gonna have to say Hell is going to be impossible with all the PI.
I'll guess Dave's ticket will be punched by a fanat/PI Boss archer pack in the Sewers act2.

But I wish U luck.

SirDooFuss
08-08-2006, 19:36
LOL! Sneak in there and turn on players 8 when he reaches hell. That would do it. Most SPers play hell at players 1.

Uh, he beat you to it. He's playing the whole dang game at /players 8!!!! :shocked:

darkwanderer666
08-08-2006, 20:16
yea superdave is insane, im playin a frenzybarb players 8 all the way and thats with gear and i run into some tricky spots... right now hes lvl 73 and just got finished with den of evil in hell.. oh btw hes not re- running any areas either.

superdave
09-08-2006, 02:16
yup...players 8 until i deed. :cry:

i have decided what i will do about PI's...if i can't find a stick for my merc that will take them out and my valk is unable to kill them after i recast her a few times i will just kill everything in the area that i am able and i will leave the stoneskin PI's for the next player to get. :laugh:

superdave
09-08-2006, 05:41
UPDATE...

i went after nihlathak today....just through anya's portal this dropped.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot248.jpg
that doubles the number of uniques i have found in just a single kill.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot249.jpg

this is the guy that everyone is afraid to fight...there are hardcore players who only see him in town if they want to gamble. :rolleyes:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot250.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot251.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot252.jpg
i had to chase him around and cast my valk right on top of him.

personalized armour...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot253.jpg

Evrae Altana
09-08-2006, 06:00
What charms are those in your inventory superdave? Life and resist ones I presume?

superdave
09-08-2006, 06:15
i have one life sc...the rest are resists...the crappiest one i am using is a 3 poison resist sc...i haven't been able to upgrade a charm since act2.

Evrae Altana
09-08-2006, 06:21
How much life do you have at the moment?

superdave
09-08-2006, 06:27
i think she is lvl 71...my abacus says she should have around 1320 life. :brainiac:

Uchiha Sasuke
09-08-2006, 06:53
i think she is lvl 71...my abacus says she should have around 1320 life. :brainiac:
How do you deal out dmg? Purely from merc and valk?

tinncann25
09-08-2006, 14:27
and decoy uses lasers thats y he is making it so far through nm

superdave
09-08-2006, 16:43
you know, i have one simple request and that is to have decoys with frickin' lazer beams attached to their heads. now evidently my cycloptic colleague informs me that that cannot be done....would you remind me what I pay you people for, honestly? throw me a bone here!

dr. :evil:

Quietus
09-08-2006, 17:41
you know, i have one simple request and that is to have decoys with frickin' lazer beams attached to their heads. now evidently my cycloptic colleague informs me that that cannot be done....would you remind me what I pay you people for, honestly? throw me a frickin' bone here!


Fixed it for you.

superdave
10-08-2006, 06:42
boy you have some nerve fixin' my frickin' movie quotes. :tongue:

i have alot of screenshots that i will try to upload tomorrow...6 monsters killed in 4.5 hours...some people will not like the last shot that i upload.

Von Lazuli
10-08-2006, 10:47
Not like the last shot?

Have the Deeds finally been remembered?

Oh no!

Laz

OmegaDreg
10-08-2006, 13:33
nope. six monster. = Ball and his minions. wait until hell. everything is 50% immune. can you say 1 hour per monster.

WhiteAlien
10-08-2006, 20:19
nope. six monster. = Ball and his minions. wait until hell. everything is 50% immune. can you say 1 hour per monster.


He must shop for Amp dmg wand, otherwise it will realy be hell.

Evrae Altana
10-08-2006, 20:28
If he buys and uses an Amplify Damage wand (or some other item that gives Amp charges), he'll be breaking his own rule of using cracked items only.

emar
10-08-2006, 20:33
He must shop for Amp dmg wand, otherwise it will realy be hell.
AFAIK there is no wand that provides amp charges (IIRC Gavel does but he is a uniquer) - if there was my Singer would be godly.

Dave this thread is inspiring... after reading this and the other naked chars through hell in HC threads I've decided to get back into playing HC (starting off slow and with gear).

Wish you luck and I'm sure we'll see a screenie of Hell Baal splatted next to Tyreal and that fancy red portal at the end...

SoAmazing
10-08-2006, 20:40
That guy is unbelieveable.

WhiteAlien
10-08-2006, 20:42
If he buys and uses an Amplify Damage wand (or some other item that gives Amp charges), he'll be breaking his own rule of using cracked items only.

Ez, pwned

How far Superdave can go? - Act5 somewhere doing Anya quest. Pack of fanatical extra fats, sry fast Dark stalkers can take down everything what moves in 1 sec.

If not, then your tomb will be made at Arreat Summit. Rest in peace dear friend :grin:

OmegaDreg
10-08-2006, 22:15
what about a weapon switch for his merc? i think there is a mod on the polearm/spears for amp damage. but that would be a lot of switching back and forth.

Bad Religion
10-08-2006, 22:30
Trust me, superdave has the patience for switching out. He takes hours to kill a single monster. :) Good luck Dave!

SirDooFuss
11-08-2006, 01:39
I'm sure he's kept an eye out for a pointy stick with ctc amp damage. But remember, no muling, and those pointy sticks take up SPACE!

I had a valk with ctc amp once...*sniff* *sniff*... She was lovely!

Superdave: It ain't nilly that worries us HC players, it's those darn bugged vipers you gotta get by to get to Nilly!

GG Superdave!

Stick THAT in your ear all you equipment hogs!!!!!

superdave
11-08-2006, 05:05
feeling a bit under the weather today...i will load up those screenshots tomorrow night...it might surprise you how many valks i have cast that had a stick with ctc amp....when i got one of them i kept her until i absolutely had to recast...the last batch of monsters that i fought would have went down in seconds if i had a valk with amp....it's too bad i was in such a sticky spot when i fought them....once i had everyone positioned i didn't want to recast and risk a fast deed if the monsters moved.

i haven't reached baal yet....the six monsters that i fought were 3 blessed stoneskin immune to phys frenzytaurs and the 3 ancients.

remind me to show you guys how to take out the ancients the safe way using only a valk and a decoy....it looks pretty scary having madawac so close tossing axes right at you but if you get everyone in the right spot you can do it without using any pots...yes i have pictures showing where to stand....tomorrow. :wave:

Gorny
11-08-2006, 18:42
*does a drumroll fpr SD*

SirDooFuss
11-08-2006, 20:53
Remind me to show you guys how to take out the ancients the safe way using only a valk and a decoy....it looks pretty scary having madawac so close tossing axes right at you but if you get everyone in the right spot you can do it without using any pots...yes i have pictures showing where to stand....tomorrow. :wave:

My fear with you and the ancients, or any boss for that matter, is that you'd get that bad roll where they completely ignore your merc, valk AND decoy and KEEP COMING STRAIGHT FOR YOU!!!!

/shivers!!!!

Pics? Did someone say something about more pics?:starry:

HobbesAC
11-08-2006, 21:37
lol single player is too easy i can probably kill everything with a naked char
all you need are afew shall we say homemade charms xD

TheBassman
11-08-2006, 22:04
Superdave doesn't need any of those "homemade charms" plus he isn't using attacks only valkyrie and his mercenary. Editors are for the weak... Superdave is the strong...

*thinks* the strong? I've been out of school for much too long. G12 here we come... *ends think*

~LesC

superdave
11-08-2006, 23:47
My fear with you and the ancients, or any boss for that matter, is that you'd get that bad roll where they completely ignore your merc, valk AND decoy and KEEP COMING STRAIGHT FOR YOU!!!!

/shivers!!!!

Pics? Did someone say something about more pics?:starry:

feeling better today...here are the promised pictures....

BAD GUY #1

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot255.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot257.jpg

BAD GUY #2

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot259.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot260.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot261.jpg

REALLY BAD GUY #3...check out the aura and look who he has for company...those souls lit my merc up like a christmas tree.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot262.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot263.jpg
(i went back to town to grab my merc just in...lucky i did because he got fried by another soul...better him than me)

INSULT TO INJURY

cursed and fighting champion souls.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot264.jpg

ANCIENTS

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot266.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot271.jpg

the above screenshot shows the safest place i found when fighting the ancients...the first thing you want to do is let them kill your merc as soon as possible...he has a tendency to wander back towards you....if he is fighting talic and talic whirlwinds through him...he may be out of range and your merc will start to come back towards you...the idiot will bring talic with him...not many zons can survive a whirlwind attack from that guy...you may have to do some running as soon as you spawn the ancients and you may think that you can't shake them but they WILL go after your decoy and valk eventually...i have never fought ancients that ignored them...korlic is usually the first guy that i try to take out because he will stand in one spot and try to wack your valk...throw a decoy up for talic to whirlwind...now this is the scary part! take a look at madawac...so he isn't freezing your valk and messing up her attacks by bouncing axes off the back of her head...try to position him like i have in the above screenshot....he will stand there forever chucking axes at the pillar you are standing behind.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot272.jpg
when korlic is finished i always go for madawac...he can be pinned easily against that same pillar by your valk.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot273.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot275.jpg
you can easily stay out of range of talic...i got a little too close once when i went to stretch my legs and get a closeup picture.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot276.jpg
easy as pie...i went in with just the potions in my belt...i used two reds pots during the fight...one at the very beginning while i was trying to shake madawac and one at the end when talic brushed against me as i was getting the last screenshot of the fight..

NewForumBloke
12-08-2006, 03:26
Bravo superdave! very awesome job! Especially risking yourself to give us, the fans and onlookers, the last screen shot :grin:

-BLoke :smug:

SirDooFuss
12-08-2006, 06:39
Three words:

AWESOME!!! TOTALLY AWESOME!!!

Long Live SuperDave the Strong!!!

superdave
12-08-2006, 06:43
a bunch more screenshots....Ventar :yikes:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot282.jpg

LISTER :yikes:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot284.jpg

BAAL :yikes:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot287.jpg

CONQUEROR anna_goanna :jig:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot290.jpg

Evrae Altana
12-08-2006, 07:08
Good job! :thumbsup:
Are you ready for Hell? :evil:

superdave
12-08-2006, 07:10
nope...my merc is desperate for some good gear.

Evrae Altana
12-08-2006, 07:14
What is your merc wearing right now?

superdave
12-08-2006, 07:17
What is your merc wearing right now?
i will post screenshots of his sick gear tomorrow.

Konfu
12-08-2006, 18:21
"Run Anna G., Run!"

Super job Dave!

superdave
12-08-2006, 19:36
as promised...my merc gear.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot293.jpg
boneflesh
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot292.jpg
crafted blood hat
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot294.jpg
malice in a war fork

this is ok gear for a merc in normal...NOT for a merc entering HELL.

i have a face of horrors(thx baal) that i might use if things get too hot for my merc...hopefully i can find a nice 2, 3 or 5 socket eth stick...oh wait, i think i sold my sol to make some room... :doh: honor will have to wait....i do have runes to make a better malice or i could make strength and get some CB....maybe i can get lucky and shop a stick with ctc lvl 1 amp.

anyone have other suggestions for improving his equipment let me know.

Evrae Altana
12-08-2006, 20:13
I hope you get lucky and score a Reaper's or something soon Dave. :wink3:

superdave
13-08-2006, 02:49
I hope you get lucky and score a Reaper's or something soon Dave. :wink3:


with zero mf, i don't see that happening anytime soon....i have only had a half dozen gold items drop so far....HELL den of evil is done...i don't think i am getting out of act1....my prediction? blessed ghost pack in the tower. :cry:

Evrae Altana
13-08-2006, 03:21
Uh-oh. Things are looking well.....hellish already! You need a way to break physical immunes Dave if you're going to progress in Hell. Maybe roll your Valk over and over until you get one with CTC Amp on striking? The only other way would be to break your own rule and use an item with charges. Or maybe you'll get lucky and score a nice Amp stick for your merc. :azn:

Bliphgar
13-08-2006, 04:51
You can do it, superdave! D:

Cope
13-08-2006, 10:45
Before you upgrade the mercenary's gear, you should upgrade your own. You need to find some of that elusive elite cracked armor. I could see a cracked Bone Shield working out well also. So many possibilities...

adecoy
13-08-2006, 12:08
maby you will get really lucky and find a spellsteel!

they are so handy!

SirDooFuss
13-08-2006, 17:09
maby you will get really lucky and find a spellsteel!

they are so handy!

Are you allowing yourself to gamble on behalf of your merc? or are you spending all your gold resurecting your merc? Gambling ctc amp pointy sticks shouldn't too hard...:rolleyes:
Are you checking nightmare Malah for pointy sticks too? Some of those throwing sticks can have nice mods too, and fit well on a merc.

superdave
13-08-2006, 18:31
i spent a night shopping nm malah before i moved on to hell...no luck.

no spellsteal...i am using cracked gear only....so no weapons.

a boneshield who be nice for a fashion change....i am using a small shield now....i am able to equip it because i have a small charm with +1 strength and some resists. :grin:

now i have to figure out how to kill bloodraven...any monster that spawns or resurrects other monsters will give me a hard time...it takes so long to kill them and it's just about impossible to get your merc and valk to concentrate on just them...bloodraven is even harder because she is ranged and she will move as soon as my guys get in melee range.

WhiteAlien
13-08-2006, 19:13
now i have to figure out how to kill bloodraven...any monster that spawns or resurrects other monsters will give me a hard time...it takes so long to kill them and it's just about impossible to get your merc and valk to concentrate on just them...bloodraven is even harder because she is ranged and she will move as soon as my guys get in melee range.

Monsters in hell regenerates life very fast. You must get something with Prevent moster heal or OW. For Blood raven try to cast your valky near her all the time and hope she does decent dmg.

Yeah, I think you will be overswarmed by Zombies.

yelopen
13-08-2006, 19:21
now i have to figure out how to kill bloodraven...any monster that spawns or resurrects other monsters will give me a hard time...it takes so long to kill them and it's just about impossible to get your merc and valk to concentrate on just them...bloodraven is even harder because she is ranged and she will move as soon as my guys get in melee range.

Yeah Blood Raven's gonna be a challenge w/ resurrecting and ranged attacks and stuff. Good luck though! :laugh:

Josiphos
13-08-2006, 19:38
"I say we evac and nuke the whole thing from space...its the only way to be sure" <--Which movie? :laugh:

Good luck Dave. I can't imagine what you're facing: I remember having trouble in Hell with my first characters that were using GEAR!! :rolleyes:

superdave
13-08-2006, 20:35
Monsters in hell regenerates life very fast. You must get something with Prevent moster heal or OW. For Blood raven try to cast your valky near her all the time and hope she does decent dmg.

Yeah, I think you will be overswarmed by Zombies.

malice...pmh and 100% ow...if that's not enough i have a boneflesh :shocked: ...what's that? 25% ow...the trick is to keep the merc alive long enough to take her down...hard to do when you can't carry a big belt full of potions.

too bad about the cast delay on valk...it's just about impossible to drop a valk on any of the corrupted rogues...bloodraven even more so...i am sure her AI is better than a normal rogue....the following picture is one of the most deadly monsters in the game...her pack can instakill most builds without you even seeing them....triple shot too.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot295.jpg

SirDooFuss
13-08-2006, 21:03
"I say we evac and nuke the whole thing from space...its the only way to be sure" <--Which movie?

It's been a while, but I think it's Aliens (the 2nd one).

SuperDave: I'm sure you'll devise a strategy for those respawning, ranged packs!

GG SuperDave!!!

superdave
14-08-2006, 01:25
It's been a while, but I think it's Aliens (the 2nd one).

SuperDave: I'm sure you'll devise a strategy for those respawning, ranged packs!

GG SuperDave!!!

well it wasn't pretty but i did it....first i tried to lure her spawns out into the cold plains hoping that blizzard might have put an upper limit on the number of monsters that blood raven can spawn...it doesn't look like they did because i had a couple hundred zombies parked out in the cold plains.

there is no way that my merc or valk could take even the few that she resurrected....i calculated that it took, on average, 30 seconds for them to kill just a single zombie....in that time she raised 5 more.

i tried using the face of horrors on my merc to improve his survivability but that just became too chaotic...it was too hard for me to keep track of all the vectors...monsters flee in a straight line until the hit something...they will then return...because i was running around trying to pop my valk on bloodraven that got too hairy...i couldn't remember when the next one would return and from what direction after awhile.

an interesting thing that i noticed regarding OW and PMH...my merc could hit a walking dead, curse him with monster flee...i know open wounds kicked in because as it would flee the blood would be pumping...theoretically that monster should not be regenerating life...but it did...what the hell gives? if open wounds didn't stop regen, PMH should.

the one monster that seemed not to regenerate was bloodraven...now this is strange too...even after my merc was killed(remember...the merc has the pmh) it didn't appear that she regenerated life as long as she was close to my girl.

i tried several ways to take her out with just my valk(no more $ to revive merc)...i tried using my decoy to block her from running away....this was the safest spot to try.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/superdave01/Screenshot298.jpg

from that position i thought that i could block the zombies for a few seconds(only one could hit my decoy at the same time) and then cast my valk on top of bloodraven....usually she would spawn a zombie before my valk could get a hit...the AI of the valk is wonky...it will ALWAYS go after a zombie instead of bloodraven...even if they are standing right next to each other....after spending about an hour trying this approach my valk only managed to take her down a sliver....what i finally decided to do was use bloodravens minions against her.

if you have ever tried to cast a decoy or your valk in a crowded group you probably noticed that she may end up a few yards away or the cast may fail altogether if quarters are too tight...my plan was to lure bloodraven into the corner...pop a decoy and a valk in front of her and then let the mob pile in around them...bloodraven then loses her mobility and i hoped that i might get lucky and my valk would score a few more hits....before i tried this approach i swapped out my resists ammy for the +3 to passives that i have been hoarding for so long.

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you should be able to see her jammed tightly in the corner...even though my valk was right next to her...she again ignored bloodraven and poked the closest zombie...with bloodraven so close and the zombies almost surrounding my valk she was getting constantly hit...the only time that she was in peril was when boodraven would curse her(something that i forgot she could do...note she didn't spawn as a cursed monster, but about every 10 minutes she could amp my valk) when my valk was amped i could "save" her by casting slow missile and popping a decoy on the opposite side of the fence...a single decoy was enough to take the heat off the valk and for the curse to expire....bloodraven would target the decoy.

where my zon is sitting i was perfectly safe...bloodraven was boxed in...she couldn't kill me, but i couldn't kill her...maybe if i had a merc he may have been able to poke her through the fence but i am positive that he would have targeted a zombie instead.

i had all day so i decided to see if a procing valk would be able to nibble away at bloodraven's life....by casting a decoy behind the mob, they would shift away just enough to give me floorspace to recast a valk...bloodraven never got out of that corner....after about a dozen valks i got lucky...a dual procer...she must have spawned with frost nova on her armour and nova on her stick....because she was constantly being hammered on by the walking dead and also being hit by bloodraven the procs were going off continually....those low lvl sorc spells killed a monster that i thought was unkillable.