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Sechler
10-07-2006, 18:40
I aquired a second fools claw and I was planning to um it as it's got 30ias as a mod. Well, I was talking to a know-it-all in a game and he recommended i nef it over an um. He explained that it served many purposes, but for example keeping smiters and melee char's away.

Well I tried it, as a nef (and a hel) is really ez to come by. At first I noticed it to be cool affect but still not sure what it's helping with. Smiters fight to get closer to me as I ww away, but the really skilled ones just charge up perfectly to me for another smite regardless of the knock backs. Should i delete that sucker and throw in an um or what? :undecided: Lil' help please.
Bune
10-07-2006, 19:55
Well I highly recommend a piece of equipment that grants knockback so you recieve it's affects for BOTH claws instead of just the one. Otherwise try boosting your AR to 20k and see if you fair any better with the Nef in that claw (I can say without a doubt KB is the deciding factor in dueling vs smiters)
KICKZILLA
10-07-2006, 22:17
Well I highly recommend a piece of equipment that grants knockback so you recieve it's affects for BOTH claws instead of just the one. Otherwise try boosting your AR to 20k and see if you fair any better with the Nef in that claw (I can say without a doubt KB is the deciding factor in dueling vs smiters)

You have any idea what could be a possible item to knockback like this? The only one I can think of is Giant Skull.

A normal setup would be like... enigma/trangs/dancers/arachs/and the claws... not that many options come to mind but maybe I'm not thinking hard enough.

Clegaw's Pincers? That would be 35% slow total with the Arachs...
HappyAssassin
10-07-2006, 22:56
Giant Skull. Clegs. These are the good options. Um your Fools claw if it doesnt need IAS.

Btw, Clegs + Arach really do a number on most bm smiters.
Sechler
10-07-2006, 23:20
Btw, Clegs + Arach really do a number on most bm smiters.

Mmmm....man I love the sound of that :angry: .
Epsilon Eyez
11-07-2006, 07:45
Excuse me for asking, but what kind of skills or attacks are used with Fool's Claws? And is it purely a PvP thing? I recently found a rare Fool's Claw and figured I might use it sometime later.

Screenshot (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/epsiloneyez/Screenshot557.gif)
Bune
11-07-2006, 07:51
Yea giant skull is what your looking for. 2 sockets, nice str, can't go wrong.

Fools claws are strictly for PvP so you can boost your AR high enough to hit the defiant pallys (I usually look for atleast 20k ar which is achieved through angelics and fools claw)
Clay bizzle
11-07-2006, 08:13
That's a good Fools claw Epsilon. Upgrade it and socket it.
Sechler
11-07-2006, 14:55
That's a good Fools claw Epsilon. Upgrade it and socket it.
Dammit the screen shot aint working anymore.
I carry two on me. Had three, but just traded one to kickzilla. I use one w/ high dmg and OW's now on it (but no good sin skill mods) and typicallly used against high life/def chars, and the other has +2 sin skills, blade shield, mindblast, decent dmg (but i had to ias jewel if for ww brkpt) which is for general use.

If I used a Giant Skull instead of Clegaw's or Nef'ed claws, what would it be socketed w/ ? Um's? Psn facets? Ber's? hmmm getting expensive.
oneBlast
11-07-2006, 15:06
I'd say UM(s) all the way.
you can never have enough OW :P
KICKZILLA
11-07-2006, 21:42
^ I think he meant in the giant skull... how bout 2x 15 res/15 ias jewels? if your ias/res is fine, then 5/5 psn facets.
what is your dr% right now with fade? if low or if you BoS over fade, then ber it
Sechler
11-07-2006, 22:17
I'm gonna look for ias/ar jewels tonight. If i'm gonna break it out almost exclusively for gg tough *** smiters, I might as well go w/ ar. I need the ias to hit 9frame traps. Zilla, my dr should be capped unless i forget to throw on my dungoes.
KICKZILLA
11-07-2006, 22:31
good idea with the 15 ias/ar jewel.... i have no idea what my res will be in hell with end-game equip (she is getting lvled) but that could be a better option than 15 res... and WAAAAAAAY cheaper right? someone offered me 15 ias /30 ar...what is the max ar on these?

edit, stupid question but you cant get one with more mods right? like 15 ias/30 ar/dex... or a rare one with 15 ias?
Sechler
11-07-2006, 23:28
someone offered me 15 ias /30 ar...what is the max ar on these?

edit, stupid question but you cant get one with more mods right? like 15 ias/30 ar/dex... or a rare one with 15 ias?

You can get up to 100AR iirc on jewels, same as pdiamond in helm/armor.

Magical (blue) jewels can have only 2 mods, Rare jewels can have 5 mods I think. I found a slick 9 dex, 10 to min dmg, 16 mf, 24 light res jewel a couple days ago.
Epsilon Eyez
12-07-2006, 00:40
Screenshot still works for me, but I'll post the stats up:

Death Razor Greater Talons
Damage: 21-77
40% IAS
Fool's Mod
+65 Attack Rating
+56% damage to undead
+37 attack rating against undead
+1 Cold Damage
9% life stolen per hit

And I just found three more Fool's Claws today, though none of them have IAS.

Screenshots!
Screenshot 1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/epsiloneyez/Screenshot573.gif)
Screenshot 2 (the good one) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/epsiloneyez/Screenshot574.gif)
Screenshot 3 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/epsiloneyez/Screenshot575.gif)

EDIT: The four claws in one page (for whatever reason it needs to be)
Screenshot Collection (http://awesome.atspace.org/d2/page.html)