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order
07-07-2006, 21:51
i posted this build earlier and got little response. i was hoping wizadept and arbedark could review this build to make sure i didnt miss anything. happyassasin u could also re-review to make sure i used ur suggestions right.

skills:
20 venom
20 claw mastery
20 wof
21 wof synergy
1 claw block
2 mindblast
1 shadow master
1-? fade

gear:
+2sin 20fcr visonary (%ar on lvl) circlet w/ dex and lr
greater talon chaos w/ +3venom and df
umed bartucs
dusk enigma/ dusk bramble (melee switch)
fcr ring - 101ar 10fcr 13str 31life 21lr
ravenfrost
spider
maras
trang
rare boots (frw, fhr, str, tri res)
cta + spirit switch
9shadow lifer

this will leave me with about 4k life, the 48fhr bp, 65 fcr bp, decent ar + high lvl cos, about 1k wof dmg?, 4k enigma ww?, fast trap laying speed, ect.

with all the points in the skills listed it will leave me with about 12 pts extra if i achieve lvl 90. right now i'm debating if i should 5/5 psn die my circlet and use most of these points to raise my DR with fadeor ber it and use these points for wof synergy or possibly blade shield altho i dont like the short duration. or if i really want to throw 10pts into fade and ber.

this is probably gonna be my final D2 character so i want to make her perfect the first time. please list your criticisms so i can make her the best i possibly can.

Arbedark
07-07-2006, 22:27
Sure mate. I'll do what I can now. But off for 1 week so wont be able to reply for a while.

Guessing some typo's in the skills.

20 WoF synergy
1 Mind Blast

Ditch maxed Claw Mastery, put the saved points in trap synergy.

Ias/Res the helm for the last trap laying bp with 2 runics. That is one LOVELY helm...Wish it had 2 socks and was mine! :rolleyes: Buying a 2/20/2 with Visionary is nigh on impossible..

Upgrade the claws to Runics. Don't use a bartucs, go for a Fury with skills or a Rare Fools.

Happy prefers the fools, I prefer the Fury. It's all a matter of taste, vs high defence opponents I go all out traps so AR isn't needed (can top 10k traps on a hybrid with one of my setups).

Swap the boots for 2/25 Shadows, much better.

Good FCR Ring.

Replace 2 x Lifer Shadows with FHR Shadows

Don't 5/5 Facet the helm. Damage increase is so small...

Make sure claw block is at 60% with all setups before moving onto DR from fade, helps vs all attacks...

Hope that quick valuation helps :sunny:

HappyAssassin
07-07-2006, 22:41
This looks really good. It's unfortunate that you are only making this char once, because its hard for me to decide whether the 1 synergy trap is good or whether 2 are needed. For my lightning sin, my original build had 1 syngergy and claw mastery, and I felt that my traps weren't doing what I wanted them too. I ended up with my current 2 and 2/3rds synergy build. I think that if you generally use the traps for lock, and dont really on them to actually kill opponents, you will be very successful. I've found that the Ar and damage for a level 45 claw mastery isnt too useful. Course, I use a Fools.

Defidently go for max trap lay with Wake. Imo, wake needs to be layed faster than LS because of the limited range. A 15/1x IAS/Res jewel would be best in your helm, as Arbedark suggested.

Btw Arbe, the 2 MB isn't a typo, I suggested it after some tests I've done. A friend told me that if MB is at a higher level than other shadow skills, it is cast by the Shadow Master much more often. I've tried it, and the difference is considerable. Very much worth the 1 skill point.

order
08-07-2006, 00:11
haha this is interesting we all have different preferences that work. i prefer the bartucs, happy prefers the fools, arbedark prefers fury. i like all the claws but i think bartucs might be nice for me because i like seeing the crazy high life count :) plus i like putting all my pts into just vita only. i do like the idea of the res ias jewel tho. it may be a bit expensive to get so i might buy it last if i can afford after getting the rest of my gear.

the wof synergy is gonna be 21 cuz 20fireblast and 1 wake of inferno. i want the traps to have a little punch but not too much therefore i think i'll just max 1 synergy and the actual wof skill. i think the extra points may be better spent elsewhere.

in this build im going for higher claw dmg and ar since my traps wont be that powerful and easily absorbed. so i think i'll stick with 20claw mastery altho i will do that one last so maybe 10-15.

i think i'll stick with my boots considering they are worth 14soj and allow me to keep base str. in hell my light res will be stacked by 50-60 without anya so that will help me out quite a bit in some cases.

i wont have to worry about the claw block since i will have +24 shadow skills which should give me like 63-64% block.

thx for the help

wizAdept
09-07-2006, 05:38
runic/runic you have the 42% ias bp for trap laying on fade. And looking at your build, you'll probably want to be on fade a lot. ias jewel your circlet, preferably res/ias.

It's a lot of skill points to get weaponblock after 60%.
I would recommend more mindblast or wof synergy over those 3-4% block.

I haven't seen any really successful ww/wof hybrids, but it certainly looks viable.
Problems with it is that chaos is not the best choice of primary ww claw, and you'll need the ias from primary claw. Bartucs lacks in that.
Also wof damage might be a bit low without gcs. =\

order
10-07-2006, 08:54
i think it will work out ok. im hoping to achieve everything i stated earlier. i just need to get better on my namelocking skill since i didnt use nearly as much as i will with my other sin.