BVA gear

[juggalomikek]

ok how does this gear look for BVA

Arreat Face 40/15 ias
Archon plate Enigma
1x ravenfrost
1x perfect BK wedding band
gore rider
perfect dracul gloves
stormshield(for bvb)
beast berzerker axe
grief berzerker axe
arachnid mesh
highlords wrath

[conor rocks]

im not sure about sheild choice i kind of like phoenix better, and are you going to use one for bva.

[juggalomikek]

no of course ill be useing both axes for bva, the stormshield is mainly for bvb

[MysticDragon]

Stormshield is better than Phoenix, overall. The block and DR on Stormshield is much better than the ED on the Phoenix, in my opinion. You may want to add treachery, some resistance stacking gear, life tap wand, widowmaker, angelics, verdungo, and some fcr rings with other mods.

[mainaman]

Phoenix is really bad shield for barb. if one doesnt like ss but phoenix ,one might as well make bvc and use ss when needed

[Ce Olba]

ok how does this gear look for BVA

Arreat Face 40/15 ias
Archon plate Enigma
1x ravenfrost
1x perfect BK wedding band
gore rider
perfect dracul gloves
stormshield(for bvb)
beast berzerker axe
grief berzerker axe
arachnid mesh
highlords wrath

Your "pub setup" should be the same as that of a BvC, aka:

CoA 'BerBer'
Enigma
2x Ravenfrosts
Dracul's (15 str)
double or triple resistance frw stats boots
Beast Zerker
Grief Zerker
Arachnid's Mesh
Highlord's Wrath

Against BvBs, melee druids, zealots, bowazons, WWsins, kicksins you should use Stormshield on the place of Beast and Arreat's on the place of CoA, otherwise the same. As for BvBs, you might want to use a Fortitude as your armor and 2x Angelic rings together with the amulet to gain high AR. Also remember to switch Arachnid's for Verdungo's.

[SicHalo]

im not sure about sheild choice i kind of like phoenix better, and are you going to use one for bva.

No phoenix on barb blows for the ed you get, you have to sacrifice nice dr which storm shield can give, you also have to spend like 300 + dex at lvl 90 to get max block on a phoenix in a monarch which will cut ur life size alot.

for bvb this shield is just not very feasible.

[Freezing Rain]

Why do people use this? :S. I always preffered this:

CoA 'BerBer'
Enigma
2x Ravenfrosts
Dracul's (15 str)
double or triple resistance frw stats boots
Beast Zerker
Grief Zerker
Arachnid's Mesh
Highlord's Wrath

Arreats (ED Jewel)
Enigma
2x Ravenfrosts
Dracul's (Doesn't have to be 15 Strength)
Up'd Gores
Beast Z
Grief Z
Arachs
Highlords

In my opinion, you don't need DR, and if you do, you use a ber'd stormshield + enigma. Ber'd SS is like 57% block for me at level 84 with about 15 points spent in dex to use hel'd widowmaker. Also, my BvC has about 20/75/75/20 resists, and it's never been a problem. If a fire sorc come in, put on hot spurs, if a light sorc comes in, tgods, cold sorc, ooh you have ravens already. Eat some antidotes for poison resist, thawing for cold.. 1 piece of sorb is GM and they'll never know if you eat the pots ;).

Also, gore riders give you 10% more ow, which I find useful for bleeding ES sorcs, and all classes in general. Arreats gives the same amount of resist as coa, 20 strength, 4 combat skills, more AR, etc.

Melee druids i don't think you even need to worry about them hitting you if you're half good. BvBs you definitely need storm, doom zerker + ss vs zons.

Oh yeah, and personally I always BO myself (level 38 or so BO) in stony field, and then 100% of the time use widowmaker for my weapon switch. It's a nice way to finish them off when they have low life from poison and ow. It also conveys OW, poison, deadly strike, etc, even though it's penalized for ranged attack.

[Ce Olba]

Why do people use this? :S. I always preffered this:

CoA 'BerBer'
Enigma
2x Ravenfrosts
Dracul's (15 str)
double or triple resistance frw stats boots
Beast Zerker
Grief Zerker
Arachnid's Mesh
Highlord's Wrath

People use this setup because it's simply the best. It allows you to have DR, dual wielding, high AR, OW, high resistances, high damage, 11 frames teleport.

Arreats (ED Jewel)
Enigma
2x Ravenfrosts
Dracul's (Doesn't have to be 15 Strength)
Up'd Gores
Beast Z
Grief Z
Arachs
Highlords

Upgraded gores are a waste, NN defense on a BvC, as for BvA, it's a personal choice. Also, Arreats in pubs is only good if there's no windies or melee chars (which is rare).

In my opinion, you don't need DR, and if you do, you use a ber'd stormshield + enigma. Ber'd SS is like 57% block for me at level 84 with about 15 points spent in dex to use hel'd widowmaker. Also, my BvC has about 20/75/75/20 resists, and it's never been a problem. If a fire sorc come in, put on hot spurs, if a light sorc comes in, tgods, cold sorc, ooh you have ravens already. Eat some antidotes for poison resist, thawing for cold.. 1 piece of sorb is GM and they'll never know if you eat the pots ;).

If you use Ber'd Stormshield+Enigma, you lose Beast, thus damage and AR. Also, 57% block is crap, BvCs were not made to use shields. If you insist on using a shield, make a BvA.

Also, gore riders give you 10% more ow, which I find useful for bleeding ES sorcs, and all classes in general. Arreats gives the same amount of resist as coa, 20 strength, 4 combat skills, more AR, etc.

With Arreat's, you have 8% DR, which makes it so that a Windy does 938 damage to you per hit. That's 6-7 nados and you're dead. Compare that to 39% DR, they deal 622 per hit, that's about 10-11 nados.

Melee druids i don't think you even need to worry about them hitting you if you're half good. BvBs you definitely need storm, doom zerker + ss vs zons.

Apparently you've not met a good melee druid. Try Stoutewolf or ElohimWolf, they're pros. Doom+SS versus Bowazons means low damage and crappy block. BvCs are not supposed to duel BvBs.

Oh yeah, and personally I always BO myself (level 38 or so BO) in stony field, and then 100% of the time use widowmaker for my weapon switch. It's a nice way to finish them off when they have low life from poison and ow. It also conveys OW, poison, deadly strike, etc, even though it's penalized for ranged attack.

Well, the problem here is what if you run out of Bo? Then you teleport to town? Bad barb. Then you bo with your crappy bo? Bad barb. Then you say "stop, need to prebo"? Random Barb.

[Freezing Rain]

Upgraded gores simply because I had a 200% pair and ladder is ending soon ^^.

For some reason I prefer grief/ss when they're windies or other barbs. I guess it's just preference. I kill just as well without using coa.

BvC's can use a shield. It's just 43% DR, and near 60% block works only 15% less then 75%? How do you see this as crap? Beast is only 5k or so AR anyway?

As I said, when I duel windies, I use stormshield.

I haven't dueled stoute or elohim, probably because they aren't on my realm ;s. Most of the pubby ones i've seen just run after you ^^. BvC's can duel BvB's, it's all in fun. :O

You don't run out of bo. If you do, you're a bad barb. And, it takes like 5 seconds to BO again.

[swiftrunner]

elohim is on east me thinks. i could be wrong, though.

[Ce Olba]

Upgraded gores simply because I had a 200% pair and ladder is ending soon ^^.

That doesn't mean it's optimal.

For some reason I prefer grief/ss when they're windies or other barbs. I guess it's just preference. I kill just as well without using coa.

A shield is bad versus Windies, you lose the hits from Beast. I remember someone talking something about Nados being randomly blocked by a shield. Dunno. CoA is superior anyways.

BvC's can use a shield. It's just 43% DR, and near 60% block works only 15% less then 75%? How do you see this as crap? Beast is only 5k or so AR anyway?

What's wrong is the fact that it's not _needed_. I see it as crap by taking away stash space and as losing the damage from Beast.

As I said, when I duel windies, I use stormshield.

Try CoA+Grief+Beast or Botd+Beast for Leeches and you'll be surprised how well it does.

I haven't dueled stoute or elohim, probably because they aren't on my realm ;s. Most of the pubby ones i've seen just run after you ^^. BvC's can duel BvB's, it's all in fun. :O

Pub werewolfs barely exist, and even the few ones that do, are crap. There's like I think, 1 good werewolf for each realm, dunno about east though.

You don't run out of bo. If you do, you're a bad barb. And, it takes like 5 seconds to BO again.

If you play defensive for a long time, you run out of bo. That's why you do not use Widowmaker in pubs as your switch, as it decreases your life if you rebo.

elohim is on east me thinks. i could be wrong, though.

I think I remember seeing someone somewhere say that he's on East. He can confirm, maybe?

[juggalomikek]

ok well with all this, it brings me to two more questions, is
CoA 'BerBer'
Enigma
2x Ravenfrosts
Dracul's (15 str)
double or triple resistance frw stats boots
Beast Zerker
Grief Zerker
Arachnid's Mesh
Highlord's Wrath

good enough for pubs? then i can get arreats and the few other things people mentioned for private games?

also, how should my stats be? someone posted 40 for strength and dex, but + if ur anni is less then 20, then put mass points into vitality, that correct?

[Ce Olba]

ok well with all this, it brings me to two more questions, is
CoA 'BerBer'
Enigma
2x Ravenfrosts
Dracul's (15 str)
double or triple resistance frw stats boots
Beast Zerker
Grief Zerker
Arachnid's Mesh
Highlord's Wrath

good enough for pubs? then i can get arreats and the few other things people mentioned for private games?

Yes.

also, how should my stats be? someone posted 40 for strength and dex, but + if ur anni is less then 20, then put mass points into vitality, that correct?

You should have 63/47 if you got perfect +20 stats anni and torch. If your anni and torch are less than that, add points. Do not make a barb if your torch and anni make up total less than 30 stats, you'll end up with pathetic life. The mass vitality thing is only true for fools and BvCs.

[Arbedark]

Yes.



You should have 63/47 if you got perfect +20 stats anni and torch. If your anni and torch are less than that, add points. Do not make a barb if your torch and anni make up total less than 30 stats, you'll end up with pathetic life. The mass vitality thing is only true for fools and BvCs.

40 Stats max 20 stats min.

That makes 40 stat difference max on str and dex

20 Stats = 160 Life before BO.

= 400 life after BO. Yes crappy life indeed. Only 6k instead of 6.4k...

[Ce Olba]

40 Stats max 20 stats min.

That makes 20 stat difference.

20 Stats = 80 Life before BO.

= 200 life after BO. Yes crappy life indeed. Only 6k instead of 6.2k...

Well, you're indeed correct, but if you plan to get those items later, it will be frustrating to remake the character. And yes, 200 life _does_ matter, if it makes you survive even 1 hit more.

The 30 stats is just so that you have enough life on lower levels. For example, with 20 stats from anni and torch my BvC would have 5700 life instead of 6110. That's not quite 200, is it?

You see, the 20 stats get double due to dex and str, that's 40 points, 400ish life. That _does_ matter a lot, you know.

And to reach 6.4k, my barb would need lvl 97. He's currently using 3x ar/life gcs to get 9k-ish ar with pubsetup, thus he loses a tad of life. His stats setup is 65/49.

For a godly barbarian, you would need lvl 91 to reach 6.4k life (assuming 33x 20 life scs, perf torch perf anni).

[Arbedark]

Yes, I modified my post when I realised my error.

Also, I'm not disagreeing that 400 Life matters. But I'm merely pointing out that you made a MASSIVE overstatement...

A 5.7k life BvC isn't unplayable in the slightest.. So just because a BvC Made with a 10 stats anni and torch would have less life, doesn't mean "Do not make a barb if your torch and anni make up total less than 30 stats"

It's like saying "if you don't level up to 99 you're character will be useless"...

[Epheira]

Why is there IAS in the helmet ? Do they use conc ?

[mainaman]

Why is there IAS in the helmet ? Do they use conc ? this is to compensate for the loss of ias when you take off the highlord and put angelics on (this will help you maintain the break point with widowmaker)

[SicHalo]

hey Ce olba it was me who brought up the nados can be blocked and morotsjos tested and they can but still its not worth lossing dmg for. Cuz having block u lose ur 1 hand dmg.

The only shields i think work are whinstans elded and storm shield with eld but even so going to stash to switch out a shield is a waste of time the only chars i can see a shield benifiting is vs a bow ama and other barb (excluding BvB).

But even bow amas can fall fast once u have enought dr.

[Freezing Rain]

Try CoA+Grief+Beast or Botd+Beast for Leeches and you'll be surprised how well it does.

Hmm. I'll try that out, I'm purchasing a CoA soon. Botd/Beast versus a windy druid? Does it leech off the wolves as if it was PvM?

[Ce Olba]

Hmm. I'll try that out, I'm purchasing a CoA soon. Botd/Beast versus a windy druid? Does it leech off the wolves as if it was PvM?

IIRC the leech from minions doesn't go through _some_ penalty, but I'm not sure which. This is the reason Iron Maiden works on summoners versus melee characters.

I remember a time when Luis said he used Botd or String of Ears versus Windies for the leeches. I myself might soon mule my perfect String of Ears to my BvC, as he has 4 extra spaces.

[morotsjos]

hey Ce olba it was me who brought up the nados can be blocked and morotsjos tested and they can but still its not worth lossing dmg for. Cuz having block u lose ur 1 hand dmg.
if they could be blocked like any other attack it would sure as hell be worth it. they cant though. the first tornado-hit seems to always hit while the secondary hit(s) seem more or less blockable.

[SicHalo]

yeah i know the block is a bit buggy and i agree if they could be block properly then it could be usefull, but as said i would not lose 1 hand dmg for a shield that is only gonna "partially" block nados.

[TheRisingX]

Is Doom + Beast against smiters the way to go?

[Ce Olba]

Is Doom + Beast against smiters the way to go?

Doom is rarely needed versus Smiters. But if you insist on using Doom, you should use Doom + Enigma + Grief, allows slowing, high damage, CoA.

[morotsjos]

Is Doom + Beast against smiters the way to go?
never, ever. pathetic damage. grief+doom if you insist using doom.

[the boss]

Wait, so how do you guys achieve max block using Ss setup against barbs? wouldn't you get like 43%...chance to block? hows that possible?

[Thoridian]

you put more points into dexterity lol

[Ce Olba]

Wait, so how do you guys achieve max block using Ss setup against barbs? wouldn't you get like 43%...chance to block? hows that possible?

To go more in-depth than Thoridian.

The BvA is a BvA and not a BvC because it's different in stats and stash gear. A BvC using a Stormshield versus barbarians is just a dumb BvC, not a BvA. A BvA will have put quite a bit of points into Dexterity and use Stormshield to have 75% blocking. He will have a little bit less life than the BvC but have more defense and 75% blocking. They usually put more or the same amount of STR as BvCs, depending from the gear. They are usually able to equip a non-hel'ed Widowmaker while in anti-hammerdin setup due to having more dexterity than the BvC. They can capitalize of this by using an UM in the Widowmaker for extra OW.

However, my personal opinion is that a BvA is just a BvC with less life and a BvB with low damage and defense.

[TehFizzle]

A Barb Vs All is just a BvC with max block

Ber Ber Coa
Highlords
Doom Zerk
Grief Zerk
2x P Raven Frosts
Tri Resists Stat Boots
Perfect Dracs
Arach
Wyrm Hide Enigma
2x Doom Zerks Or Hotos

Anni
Torch
4x 5fhr/5 res scs or 5fhr 11 light or cold res scs
33 3/18+/20 Life Scs

STR: 46
DEX: Enough For max block with storm sheild
VIT: rest
ENG: 10

1 zerk
20 leap (for team duels; if you plan to never team duel only put in 14-16 here then rest into shout)
20 ww
20 mastery
1 stamina
2 inc speed (most r/w per point before deminishing returns in lowest +skill setup)
1 iron skin
6 nat res (most resist before deminishing returns in lowest +skill setup)
x shout (throw the rest of your points here)
20 battle order
1 battle command

Stash Items
2x fcr rings with resist and any other mods (i like bonemasters)
Gore Rider
40/15 IAS arreat
Vergundo Belt
Demon Limb
Fortitude (i like archon armor)
tgods
1 wisp
hel'd widowmaker
trangs (useful in pubs, sometimes in team duels where you dont need to bleed ppl but instead to be fast and catch mb locks)
1 dwarf (for gmerc)
angelics
kiras (thul'd or ort'd; i have ort'd)
treachery (sometimes you have to bm T____T )
OW belt with at least 20 strength. I use: 15AR/2LL/8OW/28strenght/68life/20 fire resist

46 base strenght allows you to equip fort with just the strength from: anni/torch/tgods/shanks/dracs (enough to wear beast which lets you use coa


also you should carry some prebuff gear +5 bo helm +3 ammy sojs etc just so you can gain the life you lose from dex it may be bm but anything goes in pub duels and you will have the life of a real bvc but have max block also that is luis19 build and guide i just took it from him he is a good friend of mine and will be missed on the realms =\

[Ce Olba]

A Barb Vs All is just a BvC with max block

Ber Ber Coa
Highlords
Doom Zerk
Grief Zerk
2x P Raven Frosts
Tri Resists Stat Boots
Perfect Dracs
Arach
Wyrm Hide Enigma
2x Doom Zerks Or Hotos

Anni
Torch
4x 5fhr/5 res scs or 5fhr 11 light or cold res scs
33 3/18+/20 Life Scs

STR: 46
DEX: Enough For max block with storm sheild
VIT: rest
ENG: 10

1 zerk
20 leap (for team duels; if you plan to never team duel only put in 14-16 here then rest into shout)
20 ww
20 mastery
1 stamina
2 inc speed (most r/w per point before deminishing returns in lowest +skill setup)
1 iron skin
6 nat res (most resist before deminishing returns in lowest +skill setup)
x shout (throw the rest of your points here)
20 battle order
1 battle command

Stash Items
2x fcr rings with resist and any other mods (i like bonemasters)
Gore Rider
40/15 IAS arreat
Vergundo Belt
Demon Limb
Fortitude (i like archon armor)
tgods
1 wisp
hel'd widowmaker
trangs (useful in pubs, sometimes in team duels where you dont need to bleed ppl but instead to be fast and catch mb locks)
1 dwarf (for gmerc)
angelics
kiras (thul'd or ort'd; i have ort'd)
treachery (sometimes you have to bm T____T )
OW belt with at least 20 strength. I use: 15AR/2LL/8OW/28strenght/68life/20 fire resist

46 base strenght allows you to equip fort with just the strength from: anni/torch/tgods/shanks/dracs (enough to wear beast which lets you use coa


Good job on copy pasting Luis's guide. By the way, 46 won't work on BvAs, as they need to be able to use Goreriders+Fortitude+Grief+Stormshield. The least STR would be 63.

also you should carry some prebuff gear +5 bo helm +3 ammy sojs etc just so you can gain the life you lose from dex it may be bm but anything goes in pub duels and you will have the life of a real bvc but have max block also that is luis19 build and guide i just took it from him he is a good friend of mine and will be missed on the realms =\

Prebuff is unnecessary, and you will end up not using it more than once in a while. And no, no matter how much you prebuff, you will _not_ gain back the life you lost from the points into dexterity.

By the way, you shouldn't copy Luis's build here, as it's a BvC, not a BvA. Apparently you haven't got much experience with barbs, or then you're just a little slow.

To ask a few questions:

1. Why Wyrmhide Enigma? Why not Archon for Defensive (as you can use it anyways)
2. Why only 1 doom zerk and 2 hotos or 3 doom zerks? Makes no sense.
3. Why DStar? IIRC Gmerc is/was fixed?
4. Treachery is needed in about 1/100 duels with a fohadin, I wouldn't consider it worth the space. Do you?

You should at least put some thought into what you're posting before posting it. You posted a BvC with max block that depends on certain duped items on a certain realm to equip his gears? That's a bad job done.

[the boss]

With my setup I so far have base strength and base dex and all vita at level 75...

40ed Arreats
Beast Zerk
Ebotd Zerk
Highlords/Raven Frosts
Angelics combo
hel widowmaker
40-15Ss/4ptopaz shield(for bm fc cs zons)
dual resists boots/Marrows(Don't ask lol I use it for stats mostly)
Perfect strength Dracs
36/15 dungos/T-gods/Snowclash
Archon Enigma
Bo sticks
I also have Ap Fort for pvp melee duels


Charms
20/12 Btorch
18/15 Anni
strength/dex/ar/max/life charms everywhere

I can hold EVERYTHING with base strength AND base dex, all vita.
Now I can still put points in dex for max block, but that wouldn't be a problem since I can hold anything as long as I have ebotdz/arreats/charms/torch/anni all with me...that is the reason why I choose marrow over gores because I can use the stats on it to hold the gears on my side, and I am happy with that even in duels i lose a small part of ds/ow/cb...I will have more life with it. with base dex and strength...lol I can prob hold a non-hel'd widowmaker.

I still need a CoA though but I can still hold it anyways :)

I ditched grief and gave it to my zealot lol

[Ce Olba]

With my setup I so far have base strength and base dex and all vita at level 75...

40ed Arreats
Beast Zerk
Ebotd Zerk
Highlords/Raven Frosts
Angelics combo
hel widowmaker
40-15Ss/4ptopaz shield(for bm fc cs zons)
dual resists boots/Marrows(Don't ask lol I use it for stats mostly)
Perfect strength Dracs
36/15 dungos/T-gods/Snowclash
Archon Enigma
Bo sticks
I also have Ap Fort for pvp melee duels


Charms
20/12 Btorch
18/15 Anni
strength/dex/ar/max/life charms everywhere

I can hold EVERYTHING with base strength AND base dex, all vita.
Now I can still put points in dex for max block, but that wouldn't be a problem since I can hold anything as long as I have ebotdz/arreats/charms/torch/anni all with me...that is the reason why I choose marrow over gores because I can use the stats on it to hold the gears on my side, and I am happy with that even in duels i lose a small part of ds/ow/cb...I will have more life with it. with base dex and strength...lol I can prob hold a non-hel'd widowmaker.

I still need a CoA though but I can still hold it anyways :)

I ditched grief and gave it to my zealot lol

I wonder, how come you chose dmg<life? Oh, and depending on the stats from Marrows or EbotdZ is bad, very bad. The only adaption I could imagine would be ebotdz versus BvBs for maximum block.

I truly hope you're not another of those fools who tells people to use 2x falfal warcry weapons to equip their other items.

To me your setup seems pretty solid, the only problem is that it depends on stats from other items. Most likely, once you meet a good BvB, you will be beaten, due to the loss of damage, defense and blocking. Why blocking? 203-38-30-20-10-17=88. So you would need 88 dexterity for maximum blocking. Right now you should have about 115. If you get dexterity from charms, you lose a _lot_ of life, due to "of dexterity" being a suffix, and the maximum on gcs is 6. That's 15 grand charms, thus it's impossible. Whereas with lcs, max being 5, you would need 18 lcs, which, with torch and anni, is ompossible. So, my guess is that you're lacking on dexterity, and thus have lower blocking, and of course life.

[SicHalo]

@ the boss to be honest i dont like ur setup at all, i mean u have to relly on botd + marrows for stats which IMO is poor.

As u lose the nice dmg mods of the gores.

Also using strength Dex charms is bad as well as you will lose alot of life and even dmg as you with this.

Also ur gonna sudffer when u reach lvl 90 ish as u will find ur self needing to pump dex anyway.

In fact if i was building the bva i would simply just go for enough points in dex and base str barb as Engima for me is good enough all rounder. Or go for some stats in str and dex and it would still be in a better possition as u will be less relient on weapon stats, giving more gear flexibility as i can imagine u most have problems with certain gear layouts.

the only way to partial make up some of this stats is prebuff but even this u will need alot of prebuff gear and prebuff is a waste of time.

[SoAmazing]

a BvA is what?

[Ce Olba]

a BvA is what?

Barbarian vs All

[SoAmazing]

ooh thx :)

[the boss]

hmm...ditch Marrows and go Gores?

I guess I'll trade some stats charms for some vita charms cause I could actually imagine each 20 life >2 dex charms...unless I get 20/2 charms which I'd prob want to have.

Ok I saved up some stats from stats from previous levels so i can still max block from level 75-80, I'm still level 75 saving 15 points so far so I guess is to switch out marrows for gores and switch out str/dex charms for vita charms right?

I don't use fal fal sticks I have echoling throwing knifes....so its no use to fal stuff since its on switch...I dont fal my lidlesses on my other chars either....

Summary...
Switch:
Marrow to gores
stre/dex charms to vita/ar charms

correct?

[Ce Olba]

hmm...ditch Marrows and go Gores?

Yes

I guess I'll trade some stats charms for some vita charms cause I could actually imagine each 20 life >2 dex charms...unless I get 20/2 charms which I'd prob want to have.


There are no such scs as life/dexterity, both are suffixes. If that's ar/dex, then you're better off with lcs that got 7x/5 ar/dex.

[SoAmazing]

suffixes? Meaning :shocked:?

[Ce Olba]

suffixes? Meaning :shocked:?

A magic property. Example:

"Fine Small Charm of Vita"
3/20/20

The "Fine" is the prefix, the "of Vita" is the suffix. You can only have 1 prefix and/or 1 suffix in each magical item. Charms are magical items too.