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Do u need stacked resists for lightning trappers ?
I have 90 lightres now and i want to know if they can lower it somehow
As far as I know, not without conviction, due to trap being minions and -res on the player not transfering.
As far as I know, not without conviction, due to trap being minions and -res on the player not transfering.
Yes, just make sure you stacked above anya bug.
HappyAssassin
06-07-2006, 23:40
Also, dont be suprised if some trappers go and get an infinity merc, they tend to take heavy stack personnaly. :wink3:
even more surprisingly, you'll see some trappers carrying an infinity polearm themselves ^^
even more surprisingly, you'll see some trappers carrying an infinity polearm themselves ^^
I once met a trapper who used CTA's bo, then swapped it for a Infinity and used that to lower my resistances. Haha.
WhiteAlien
07-07-2006, 06:11
Infinity merc is very easy to stuck, it lowers only by 85%, not like against good FoH's where you must have stucked above 220%.
Infinity merc is very easy to stuck, it lowers only by 85%, not like against good FoH's where you must have stucked above 220%.
The correct word would be "stack", not "stuck", just noting.
Also, I rarely bother to stack versus Trappers, as I've only seen like four of them who got an infinity merc, and the merc is an easy picking. Whereas against Fohers I have to stack quite a bit of LR.
WhiteAlien
07-07-2006, 11:00
The correct word would be "stack", not "stuck", just noting.
Also, I rarely bother to stack versus Trappers, as I've only seen like four of them who got an infinity merc, and the merc is an easy picking. Whereas against Fohers I have to stack quite a bit of LR.
thx for correcting :grin:
dunno what build you use to resist FoH'ers.....
dunno what build you use to resist FoH'ers.....
Gogo BvC-power.
dunno what build you use to resist FoH'ers.....
Just take windy and forget about foh'ers :thumbsup:
Gogo wind druid.
Just take windy and forget about foh'ers :thumbsup:
Gogo wind druid.
Windy=Trapper/BvC breakfast.
well trappers are mostly a joke, but ive met 1 or 2 that give major dmg.
For foh i use a 4 Ptopaz shield in a resistance based shield
+ i got 90 light res
most foh'ers are played by people that say OMG THAT GUIDE SEZ 12K DMG...
But dont have a clue on how to play em
Btw on windies, i just owned 2 of them (partied and all) in a duel game, i was their only oponent...
They are too cocky, and thats their downfall
skills > equipment
well trappers are mostly a joke, but ive met 1 or 2 that give major dmg.
Due to pub randoms sorbing trappers, most of the good trappers are gone. Good ones are not a joke by far, but they will beat you and not give you a moment to rest. As for Paladins, they can just charge out of MB, thus trappers are a joke to paladins.
For foh i use a 4 Ptopaz shield in a resistance based shield
+ i got 90 light res
I see, you play a Paladin. You should use a 4 UM griswold's shield or something like that, along with maybe Resist Lightning, unless you're a foher or a hammerdin.
most foh'ers are played by people that say OMG THAT GUIDE SEZ 12K DMG...
But dont have a clue on how to play em
Most people have no idea that to retain high dr and block your max damage will be at most 10k. As for the clueless people, they're what we call "pub randoms".
Btw on windies, i just owned 2 of them (partied and all) in a duel game, i was their only oponent...
They are too cocky, and thats their downfall
Well, Windy beats fohers, but gets beaten by trappers, who in turn get beaten by paladins, who get beaten by sorcs or bvcs, who get beaten by bvcs or bvbs, who get beaten by casters, who get beaten by bvcs, who get beaten by bvbs.. Endless chain.
skills > equipment
Only if you already have more than average equipment. With the worst possible equipment, you're not gonna perform as well as someone with half your skill but the optimal gears.
Decent gear + skills > optimal gear + low skill
WhiteAlien
07-07-2006, 13:50
OK lets start food chain
------->
hammers killed by trapers -> trapers killed by chargers -> chargers killed by Foh's -> Foh's killed by Windy -> Windy killed by wwsin -> wwsin killed by BvC barb -> BvC barb killed by Bone necro -> Bone necro killed by sorc -> sorc killed by other sorc -> other sorc killed by zone -> zone killed by auradin -> auradin killed by hammer . . . :yawn:
OK lets start food chain
------->
hammers killed by trapers -> trapers killed by chargers -> chargers killed by Foh's -> Foh's killed by Windy -> Windy killed by wwsin -> wwsin killed by BvC barb -> BvC barb killed by Bone necro -> Bone necro killed by sorc -> sorc killed by other sorc -> other sorc killed by zone -> zone killed by auradin -> auradin killed by hammer . . . :yawn:
BvC slain by Boner? Why not a BvB? Then it would be way more realistic.
Well i play a charge/smiter (zeal vs low def)
Only problem i have is BvA really, and hammerdins, and same type pally's as me with better gear.
sorcs dont really hurt me much, i stack with salv + charge.
Windies make people lag, and they get wreckless. Most of the times i die from them is because my mouse wont move at all. Thats why i am hoping for new patch. no more lag... fair duels
If only there was a realm that didnt have enigma, that would rule.
Face to face duels, like it should be
Note on bvc, a lot of people nowadays read that theyre good, play one, but dont have a clue either, i meet few good bvc's on europe realm.
dont have anything against bvc, but for gods sake if u want to duel practice first
Note on bvc, a lot of people nowadays read that theyre good, play one, but dont have a clue either, i meet few good bvc's on europe realm.
dont have anything against bvc, but for gods sake if u want to duel practice first
Well, most people do that. I actually have made a few half-randoms make BvCs due to how "well" I performed in a pub game.
As for the fact that most BvCs suck, well, unlike most other characters, Barbs take a _looooooong_ time to master or to be good with. I've played with BvCs for about a year, and I'm still only a tad over the average dueler, however I would most likely be classified as "skilled" and "knowledgeable" rather than "godly" or "decent".
It's a fact that most people want builds that are powerful and easy to control, and when they see a BvC raping a game, they think that it's godly, and make one and suck on it, and start hating the barb class.
That is rite a barb does have a steaper learning curve compared to other characters. Most of the characters i use require a bit of skill with hoteky switching like my ww/trapper and mage and even BvC.
I was fairly new to BvCs with my first pure vita one, the only previous experience i had was with a BvA which mine was a nerfed BvC. But it does take alot of skill to master, this is why u see alot of BvC fall to randoms or do not perform as well.
Like stated i saw how well a BvC performed in pubs so i made one myself and yes i did suck when i made mine. I was like this untill i started to get down and practice, even now i have seen myself make a few newbie mistakes but in general i have improved to what i used to be, i still would never call myself fit to be godly. But i think i can atleast call myself decent or a little above average.
Windy ..bvc breakfast, dont think so.
That is rite a barb does have a steaper learning curve compared to other characters. Most of the characters i use require a bit of skill with hoteky switching like my ww/trapper and mage and even BvC.
Myself, the first ever character that I made for PvP purposes that required me to move from fkeys to a,s,d,f,g,e,r,q, was a WWsin. I found it half impossible to use the traps, mb, dflight and such (yes, I _was_ poor).
I was fairly new to BvCs with my first pure vita one, the only previous experience i had was with a BvA which mine was a nerfed BvC. But it does take alot of skill to master, this is why u see alot of BvC fall to randoms or do not perform as well.
I find it funny that my first-ever BvC would perfectly fit my current items, I mean, he has 54/49 stats, so he can use Beast with a 29 str belt, and I have one. And no, I didn't plan it this way, I planned the character based on EBotdZ, it was actually 41/40 at first. Second one was a pure vita one, my first ever lvl 90 character. The current one is 65/49, the one setup I find optimal, and the character name would be Mutodori, on EUSCNL.
Like stated i saw how well a BvC performed in pubs so i made one myself and yes i did suck when i made mine. I was like this untill i started to get down and practice, even now i have seen myself make a few newbie mistakes but in general i have improved to what i used to be, i still would never call myself fit to be godly. But i think i can atleast call myself decent or a little above average.
Who was this BvC you saw? I never really "sucked" with my BvC, I just wasn't godly or anything. Right now I've just pinned down the triwhirls, so I'm starting to look more like a pro than a random with low skill.
Heck, I remember myself saying "I will use Eni BP for looks" or saying "I will use Verdungo until I can afford Arachnid's". So funny. Back then I had a low beast, a low ebotdz, and a random enigma. Oh, I also have a 10 stats anni and a 18 stats torch.
OT: My Dracul's have a scent of godliness, they were given to me by Morotsjos.
As i recall you only have your windy for a short time, and i am pretty sure a descent bvc would tear your windie up. Sorry mate.
You dueled my mates BvA and he had you 1-1. Bvc is a lot tougher.
If u want i can set you up to duel jake007. He has a bvc that would love to duel you druid
Someone curse all of the Ladder players. Come to NL and fight Mat for a change. Oh, and IIRC he said that the best druid on EUSCNL, Tiber, was easy pickings with Fortitude. Or was it Ed?
Windy ..bvc breakfast, dont think so.
As i recall you only have your windy for a short time, and i am pretty sure a descent bvc would tear your windie up. Sorry mate.
You dueled my mates BvA and he had you 1-1. Bvc is a lot tougher.
If u want i can set you up to duel jake007. He has a bvc that would love to duel you druid
no, i mean in general, btw, my windy was welfare, sucked and had no skillers/torch.\
In the way that, windy needs a lot less skill to stand a chance than a bvc.
moonlike
07-07-2006, 15:49
Tiber, was easy pickings with Fortitude. Or was it Ed?
how he forced him to atack while using forti
(im not sure but widow will do nothing and u lose alot of skills too, bo 6 from bo spears and 2 from enigma)
how he forced him to atack while using forti
(im not sure but widow will do nothing and u lose alot of skills too, bo 6 from bo spears and 2 from enigma)
Widow: Lifetap+decent arrow damage -> freaked out druid -> offensive -> dead
And no, the lifeloss is not that significant. And who said he will bo with Widow?
If u want i can set you up to duel jake007. He has a bvc that would love to duel you druid
My BvC is a windy/smite breakfast, don't bring me into this argument because it won't do the build any justice. :rolleyes:
There are quite a few BvC who are capable of destroying wind druids though, IIRC.
In the way that, windy needs a lot less skill to stand a chance than a bvc.
In a sense that's true. Windy druids have a much flatter learning-curve than BvC.
Widow: Lifetap+decent arrow damage -> freaked out druid -> offensive -> dead
Not necesarily, and cmon, widow against windy:shocked: . Either catch you off guard while with bow switch or just resummon wolves as your attack speed is really slooow.
Good windy is 50-50 against good BvC. Period.
This has beed rolled over and over for 1000 times here.
mainaman
07-07-2006, 21:47
only thing you need to do against windies is use 2 botd and forti. leech all you want from minions ,eventually druid will have to stop summon then should be ez, oh yeah dont forgrt to leap...
Not necesarily, and cmon, widow against windy:shocked: . Either catch you off guard while with bow switch or just resummon wolves as your attack speed is really slooow.
Good windy is 50-50 against good BvC. Period.
This has beed rolled over and over for 1000 times here.
I dissagree with this completely firstly widow does work, i dont use much but i thought once i would give it a try cuz a druid minion stacks so ping them with a bow helps as u have a chance of a lifetap cast, and u can force the windy on the offensive. I also use widow vs trappers which i find works as well.
50/50 i still dont think so im not say i dont lose to druids but if i do its usally a error or slip up at my end if i do.
I mean i have seen some good windys that i could pass off having a high chance vs barbs.
Edit
Yeah tiber is supposed to have the best windy arround on Europe, i dont know on nl though.
conor rocks
07-07-2006, 23:50
OK lets start food chain
------->
hammers killed by trapers -> trapers killed by chargers -> chargers killed by Foh's -> Foh's killed by Windy -> Windy killed by wwsin -> wwsin killed by BvC barb -> BvC barb killed by Bone necro -> Bone necro killed by sorc -> sorc killed by other sorc -> other sorc killed by zone -> zone killed by auradin -> auradin killed by hammer . . . :yawn:
are you talking about pub games, because i kill fohs with 1 point in charge i really need to make an actual dueler and not 1 point smiter.
I use charge and not much foh-ers kill me
I dissagree with this completely firstly widow does work, i dont use much but i thought once i would give it a try cuz a druid minion stacks so ping them with a bow helps as u have a chance of a lifetap cast, and u can force the windy on the offensive. I also use widow vs trappers which i find works as well.
50/50 i still dont think so im not say i dont lose to druids but if i do its usally a error or slip up at my end if i do.
I mean i have seen some good windys that i could pass off having a high chance vs barbs.
Edit
Yeah tiber is supposed to have the best windy arround on Europe, i dont know on nl though.
Relying on life tap is just bm imo. But if that's your strat, you can also wear life tap wand or something too on switch. :soapbox:
Also that's good for you that you completely own druids and other chars too if you say so.
Nevertheless, fact is that good druid will go 50-50 vs good bvc. That's my opinion.
WhiteAlien
08-07-2006, 09:50
Relying on life tap is just bm imo. But if that's your strat, you can also wear life tap wand or something too on switch. :soapbox:
Also that's good for you that you completely own druids and other chars too if you say so.
Nevertheless, fact is that good druid will go 50-50 vs good bvc. That's my opinion.
Agree! Druid with Stormshield and max block is pretty hard for BvC, otherwise if no max block and DR they are full ownage for good BvC.
well im not saying so strong but listen a smiter rellies heavily on life tap and the way i see this it is not bm but still i see good druids with nice stats most of the time.
If u dont complain when a smiter lifetaps you u should not complain when the druid get lifetapped.
Like i said i think its more of a duel on how the bvc plays that could determin the winner, yeah i seen alot of average and good druids but most of them that can go with a high chance vs a barb its only a handfull i say.
Just like WhiteAlien said. If the druid has max block + max dr, that can be an issues for bvc's. Other spirit windies are a piece of cake.
Just like WhiteAlien said. If the druid has max block + max dr, that can be an issues for bvc's. Other spirit windies are a piece of cake.
Agree! Druid with Stormshield and max block is pretty hard for BvC, otherwise if no max block and DR they are full ownage for good BvC.
My friend used a Windy for quite a time, he actually was pretty skilled with it. His druid had 5.8k life, max block. 99% fhr. 99% fcr, max dr. The last time I dueled him, I beat him 7-2. In two match-ups I used Fortitude, rest of them went with howl+enigma (makes the druid go resummon over and over again, if not, it allows you to safely triwhirl them, due to the wolves running. They can also panic so that you can get a lock on them and use delayed namelock to kill them while they resummon)
Thoridian
09-07-2006, 14:09
My friend used a Windy for quite a time, he actually was pretty skilled with it. His druid had 5.8k life, max block. 99% fhr. 99% fcr, max dr. The last time I dueled him, I beat him 7-2. In two match-ups I used Fortitude, rest of them went with howl+enigma (makes the druid go resummon over and over again, if not, it allows you to safely triwhirl them, due to the wolves running. They can also panic so that you can get a lock on them and use delayed namelock to kill them while they resummon)
If youre talking about Chris then yes, he was preety skilled with his druid but still easly 5-0-able
If youre talking about Chris then yes, he was preety skilled with his druid but still easly 5-0-able
That's because the only few "good" people he dueled were me, you (?), vadim and Ed. He always only entered games like "low lvl dueling" "low lvl duels" "low dueling" "low lvl duel" etc. so he got no training versus multiple classes.
But yes, he was good, just that his playing style was too predictable, at least from my point of view. He played offensive until I leaped or lifetapped or killed the minions, then he went a few screens away to resummon, and offensive again. He let me abuse Howl to it's fullest, as all I needed was to quickly howl+tele+howl, as the howl's aura was still there when he would tele on the place I was a bit ago.
ROFL. try nl for a change.
I've always said that duels and duelers on Ladder are _not_ good, they're trash compared to NL players, due to the items available on NL, and also the fact that most duelers on NL can afford a decent/godly dueler character, instead of those 20 ist characters on Ladder. Heck, I remember how I got my first Enigma with 11 ists and a 40 ed/8dex jewel, yes I sure was dumb. Lost that Nigma a few days after.
morotsjos
09-07-2006, 14:37
Windy ..bvc breakfast, dont think so.
ROFL. try nl for a change.
morotsjos
09-07-2006, 14:46
Not necesarily, and cmon, widow against windy:shocked: . Either catch you off guard while with bow switch or just resummon wolves as your attack speed is really slooow.
Good windy is 50-50 against good BvC. Period.
This has beed rolled over and over for 1000 times here.
yes please teleport on a strbugged barb who you didn't see just switched from widow to axes.
ridiculous statements like yours are repeated once in a while (hardly "1000 times") by people who dont know better. fact is that 100% offensive barb goes 50/50 with 100% defensive druid. what do you think happens when barb doesn't play suicidal? if you or anyone else has a druid on eunl i will prove this any time. it's pretty obvious that you and the rest of the druid fanboys are ladder only though.
non-garbage barb>>>any druid by far. PERIOD.
yes please teleport on a strbugged barb who you didn't see just switched from widow to axes.
Yes, go go str bugged barb. Good that my barb is built so that if he uses this setup, he's str bugged. Also, if the druid camps on the screen of the barb, not doing a thing except teleporting, he's crying for lifetap.
ridiculous statements like yours are repeated once in a while (hardly "1000 times") by people who dont know better. fact is that 100% offensive barb goes 50/50 with 100% defensive druid.
And if a druid goes offensive versus a defensive barb, then what? I'd say it's then almost autowin for the barb, as he can use a lifetap wand, widowmaker, howl, leap.
what do you think happens when barb doesn't play suicidal? if you or anyone else has a druid on eunl i will prove this any time. it's pretty obvious that you and the rest of the druid fanboys are ladder only though.
Yes, it's so funny that the Ladder players who know pretty much only Ladder dueling, come making ridiculous statements based on Ladder dueling. Dueling on Ladder is just about who's got the most HRs, as 99% of all Ladder duelers are skillwise crappy.
non-garbage barb>>>any druid by far. PERIOD.
Non-garbage barb here meaning one that uses Leap and other neat tricks? Myself I prefer Leap+Howl+Telewhirls versus offensive druids, makes them tele in the howls and then just leap them and kill. Or if they're defensive, leap to the side, howl, leap, telewhirl.
Myself I've not used the Fortitude setup too much, I just cannot play with it. But I can tell you, as soon as the lifetap triggers, if the druid plays offensive for even a second, he's dead. I remember tanking the druid due to lifetap and then killing him almost instantly.
Not necesarily, and cmon, widow against windy .
Apparently you have no idea of a BvCs.
Either catch you off guard while with bow switch or just resummon wolves as your attack speed is really slooow.
With Highlord's the speed is _not_ slow. Also, what about str bug? And what if the lifetap triggers? That forces you to play defensive, as if you play offensive, you get tanked.
Good windy is 50-50 against good BvC. Period.
Duel some on NL and think it over. In the last about a year that I've been dueling on NL, I've met only 1 druid to give me troubles, xXSarevokXx, and even he is beatable (he used to use a 2x shael CoA versus me due to believing that the FHR could change a thing). And IIRC, he's packed with 38ish life skillers, godly items, and of course skill.
This has beed rolled over and over for 1000 times here.
Give me link to 10% of those? (Aka 100 topics, if you cannot count that)
Relying on life tap is just bm imo. But if that's your strat, you can also wear life tap wand or something too on switch.
I sometimes use Lifetap wand a switch, only to piss them off. If you consider it BM, then make a character that I cannot leech from, or do like skilled people do, aka do not use minions, except for OAK if your opponent can lifetap them.
Hell, if it bothers you, I can rather use Howl and Leap, it's almost as effective.
ROFL. try nl for a change.
listen nl vs ladder
i can tell you that most chars on ladder are not as good as their nl equivalents.
its a fact i know cuz i play both i have my ww/trapper and bvc nl and my mage on ladder.
For starters i can only name like 2-3 decent/good BvCs on ladder the rest either do not have a clue on how to duel or juist plain and utter crap.
out of the 2 i have seen both are here on this forum and the other i do not know.
Most ladder BvCs are not even fit enough for me to switch in dr gear and im damn serious when i say this.
Even smiters have more punch than say ladder equivelents. And druids seem tougher as well.
Im not saying that all ladder chars are junk no skillers, but compared to the bulk on say nl it is definetly a different story.
They are probably rite that bvc and windy can go 50/50 but this applies to ladder and as i stated majority of so called "BvCs" are clueless and no skillers.
HappyAssassin
09-07-2006, 17:12
Ce Olba, I'm really quite sick of all the non-ladder elitism. The idea that Ladder is somehow a wealth contest and non-ladder is not is absurd. There are a lot of good players on Ladder, many of whom play it specifically to get away from the "holier than thou" pros on NL. It's true, in the beginning of the season gear determines a lot, but later on it doesnt work like that at all. Honestly, it's just insulting and ignorant to think that availability of items makes for good duelers. I'd argue the opposite, that lack of items leads people to compensate with skill.
Non-Ladder has more, cheaper items, is rife with dupes, and has people on it who have been playing longer (in some cases). That's the difference, and that's really all the difference. Apparently I know a lot of that 1% of good duelers on ladder, because many of the people I duel with, while they might not be as dominant on NL, are still very skilled duelers. So before you start making blanket statements about groups of players, stop and think. "I'm NL, you're L, thus I'm right" is not a legitimate argument, as much as you might want it to be. Go back to trying to prove your point, and keep your misconceptions to yourself.
Btw, BvC > Druid, 80% of the time. A real BvC I mean, not a barb with 2 axes. :sad2:
morotsjos
09-07-2006, 17:21
Ce Olba, I'm really quite sick of all the non-ladder elitism. The idea that Ladder is somehow a wealth contest and non-ladder is not is absurd. There are a lot of good players on Ladder, many of whom play it specifically to get away from the "holier than thou" pros on NL. It's true, in the beginning of the season gear determines a lot, but later on it doesnt work like that at all. Honestly, it's just insulting and ignorant to think that availability of items makes for good duelers. I'd argue the opposite, that lack of items leads people to compensate with skill.
Non-Ladder has more, cheaper items, is rife with dupes, and has people on it who have been playing longer (in some cases). That's the difference, and that's really all the difference. Apparently I know a lot of that 1% of good duelers on ladder, because many of the people I duel with, while they might not be as dominant on NL, are still very skilled duelers. So before you start making blanket statements about groups of players, stop and think. "I'm NL, you're L, thus I'm right" is not a legitimate argument, as much as you might want it to be. Go back to trying to prove your point, and keep your misconceptions to yourself.
Btw, BvC > Druid, 80% of the time. A real BvC I mean, not a barb with 2 axes. :sad2:
fact remains, the quality of the duelers on ladder is inferior to the ones on nl. period. there are no bragging druids on nl for a reason.
fact remains, the quality of the duelers on ladder is inferior to the ones on nl. period. there are no bragging druids on nl for a reason.
This is so correct. Hail Morotsjos.
Ce Olba, I'm really quite sick of all the non-ladder elitism. The idea that Ladder is somehow a wealth contest and non-ladder is not is absurd. There are a lot of good players on Ladder, many of whom play it specifically to get away from the "holier than thou" pros on NL. It's true, in the beginning of the season gear determines a lot, but later on it doesnt work like that at all. Honestly, it's just insulting and ignorant to think that availability of items makes for good duelers. I'd argue the opposite, that lack of items leads people to compensate with skill.
Non-Ladder has more, cheaper items, is rife with dupes, and has people on it who have been playing longer (in some cases). That's the difference, and that's really all the difference. Apparently I know a lot of that 1% of good duelers on ladder, because many of the people I duel with, while they might not be as dominant on NL, are still very skilled duelers. So before you start making blanket statements about groups of players, stop and think. "I'm NL, you're L, thus I'm right" is not a legitimate argument, as much as you might want it to be. Go back to trying to prove your point, and keep your misconceptions to yourself.
Yet the people who play non-ladder do make ridiculous claims like "windy=bvc". And as for the "elitism" thing, it's a fact, on Ladder people get wealthy to duel on NL, most likely. The ones that duel on Ladder are foolish, mostly. I'm not saying that Ladder dueling would be inferior to Non-Ladder, just that all the good duelers are on Non-Ladder due to the fact that there are better possibilities of builds and better duelers on NL. I'm not saying that I'm right because I'm on non-ladder. Just look at the picture. Luis, Mcm, Morotsjos, stoutewolf, all play on non-ladder. There are of course a few very good duelers on Ladders too, but less than on non-ladder.
Btw, BvC > Druid, 80% of the time. A real BvC I mean, not a barb with 2 axes.
Good that you agree to the point, which started the whole arguement.
Romper Stomper
09-07-2006, 19:51
This L vs NL argument comes up EVERY TIME a ladder season gets a decent item base and people start to think their L PVP chars are complete.
It has been proven time and time again that NL > L, every time L merges the "top L duelers" get thrashed by the "top NL duelers".
I had over fourty (yes, four zero) organised 1v1 duels vs my barb (mostly consisting of smiters and V/Ts that had apparently "never been beaten" by a barb) when S2 ended and won all of these in series (most were first to 5, a couple were first to 9).
The only time the ladder superiority argument has any possible validity to it is when an incredibly powerful item is available exclusively on ladder. This is what happened in S2 and we already know the result of that merge. That it hasn't happened in S3 makes L vs NL arguments even more stupid than before.
Romper Stomper
09-07-2006, 19:54
Oh and no wind druid can beat a WW barb with more than 40% leech on weapons. Nightmare oak, max block, max DR included. Summoning = barb always has full life, not summoning = naked druid. No, NO, a no summon druid cannot tank WW even with max block/DR.
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