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Pathologist
30-06-2006, 04:50
Hey, i was just wondering if there is any Videos out there.

Of Light trap Assassins.

I think i might be really interested in some of these

Thanks.

Funguspower
30-06-2006, 11:35
I THINK it was HappyAssassin who posted some of his Trap/Kicker Hybrid video's a whila ago, and they were absolutely excellent. Can't seem to find them anymore though. :/

EDIT: It was WizAdept, and here's a Link to it :)

http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=465529&page=2

/fung

HappyAssassin
30-06-2006, 13:38
I've been thinking about making videos with my assassin. Sometimes clanmates follow me around when I duel, and since I've taught at least two of them trapper techniques by having them watch me, I think a video would be great. The problem is that when I run the video program I have, I get incredeble lag, which makes it very hard do the cool dueling tricks I want to show off. Anyway, working on solving that problem, I'd love to have a video on the end of my guide.

nickedoff
30-06-2006, 17:07
You can do a search on youTube for 'trapsin dueling' or something.

At least, there are a ton of barb dueling ones on there.
I don't know why someone wouldn't have put an assn.

Pathologist
30-06-2006, 20:30
Thx Guys :D

Funguspower
30-06-2006, 21:21
Right-o Happy :D Would be excellent to see some of your vids, as I liked your guide a lot, and would LOVE to see that Hybrid in action (that is, provided you still HAVE the hybrid, if not, I think a ban is in order :wink3: )

Can't help you in the fraps departement though, maybe you ought to PM WizAdept and find out how he got it right.

/fung

wizAdept
30-06-2006, 22:46
I used fraps to record. It does lag the comp some but my comp can handle it.
The vids are then compressed with 3ivx codec.

So far I have not been impressed with most d2 vids I've seen. I've seen a bunch of players post vids of them using fc zons, smiters, and all against weak public opponents, very few exciting duels vs gg players. Nothing exciting about watching a smiter charge out of town and one hit pubs. Z.z

Youtube is lame for d2 vids. Watch a few of the vids on there and you will see why. I once posted a vid there in response to someone praising their fc zon vid. (showing fc zon getitng pwnt without sorb by legit kicksin in my vid) and had someone on youtube accuse me of gmod in my vid. lol? Bunch of idiots.

Zack + Donny posted a few good vids. (I think you can find those on putfile) Smash's BvC vids on video.google are great. Thats about it.

As for my vids, you can find the majority of them here:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Zaiychik

Also SeeD posted 3 kvk vids I recorded here:
http://media.putfile.com/The-2-Best-USeast-Kickers-Duel
http://media.putfile.com/The-2-Best-USeast-Kickers-Duel-2
http://media.putfile.com/The-2-Best-USeast-Kickers-Duel-3


I have a few vids I recorded playing on trapper but I dont have them uploaded anywhere. And btw Funguspower, my char isnt a trapper hybrid, level 1 traps, 20 mindblast, pvp kick/bowsin.
It's just that kickers need to know how to play like trappers with stunlock tactics. 65+ fcr and max trapset speed are a must.

HappyAssassin
30-06-2006, 23:38
Great vids Wiz, you have a lot of skill with that kicker. I especially like the one where you kill a Whirlwind barb. :grin: Just curious, there are quite a few weapon switches I see there, what looks like a Wizardspike on one duel, a Death's Web in another, and a claw/claw pairing in yet another. I'd be interested to hear how you build your kicker. Plenty of flexability I see. I assume that the shield is Spirit, but I'm not sure. Also, do you BO before those duels or just play with the kick/widow stuff on your switch and un-enhanced life? Seemed like that trapper hit you pretty hard.

I recognize a lot of those guys you dueled from jsp. Do you happen to know a whirlwind assassin named Aku-Aku or WiggLes? I suddenly wish I was on East...

Also, if I did vids, I would try to make them really interesting. I think including some losses would be useful as a teaching tool, to show where I went wrong ("See, here, where I get shot in the face, I shouldnt have tele'd there").

Quietus
01-07-2006, 01:34
Unless I'm mistaken, Wizzy doesn't have that distinctive, jagged blade. I'm guessing Fleshripper.

Wiz - Once I rebuild my ww/trap hybrid, I'd love to have a few duels with you if you're up for it, if you're on NL. It looks like you could show me a thing or two. :shocked:

wizAdept
01-07-2006, 02:52
I switch up between c/c and Um'd Wizzy, Um'd Fleshripper and Um'd Dweb. Shield is either Ber'd SS or Spirit. There are other weapons I xfer on occasion, but stash space restricting, those are the ones I carry now. BO is usually cta/spirit buffed before switching to widowmaker. Vs opponents where I dont need the bow as much, I use cta/spirit switch and go pure kicker style.

I practice dueling without bo vs weaker opponents a lot, but yeah, it hurts when my bo runs out in the middle of a long duel vs a more difficult opponent, as seen vs eLLi, he is a really exceptional trapper though, other trappers fall easy usually.

Yeah HappyAssassin, I tend to duel with a lot of the jsp crowd, some great duelers there (if you can look past all the horrible ones spamming forums)
I know of Aku but never dueled him though.

Sure quietus, pm me whenever for duel.

jake007
02-07-2006, 21:24
Wow... I didn't know kickers can do so well in PvP?

Impressive stuff...

btw, what you use to record your pvp vids?

moonlike
02-07-2006, 23:00
Wow... I didn't know kickers can do so well in PvP?

Impressive stuff...

btw, what you use to record your pvp vids?

bcoz they dont, any grief smiter who has clue how to duel will rape u, also that barb was pathetic , switching cta every 2min sux, i like kickers but chaos claws are just better.

jake007
02-07-2006, 23:06
Maryn/Entropy/moonlike:

Obvious the pvp video said the otherwise, the skill/movement displayed were top notch, lots and lots of hot-keys.

I don't see many kickers on EuSCL. :-/

wizAdept
02-07-2006, 23:08
Sigh, always a hater.
If you are on east nl, I will gladly duel your smiter.
I dont lose often to smiters.
That barb is #1 bvb on east nl for a long while now, please don't call people pathetic when you yourself don't know who is who.

jake007: those were recorded using fraps, then compressed with virtualdub using 3ivx codec.

jake007
02-07-2006, 23:10
ake007: those were recorded using fraps, then compressed with virtualdub using 3ivx codec.

A bit OT but doesn't your computer lag when recording with fraps? Mine lags like sh*t. Any tip in getting it run better?

wizAdept
02-07-2006, 23:21
You can try turning down graphic settings ingame, setting fraps to record at half resolution, and using a glide3 to openGL wrapper, that might still not be enough depending on your system. Fraps kills framerates.

I use amd64 4000+ and asus geforce7800gtx so it runs fairly smoothly for me while recording on full graphic settings. It still does lag by a frame or two here and there though, so I still feel slightly sluggish while recording. =\

moonlike
03-07-2006, 00:18
Sigh, always a hater.
If you are on east nl, I will gladly duel your smiter.
I dont lose often to smiters.
That barb is #1 bvb on east nl for a long while now, please don't call people pathetic when you yourself don't know who is who.

jake007: those were recorded using fraps, then compressed with virtualdub using 3ivx codec.

bvb is pathetic for me, sory doesnt metter hes goodlies on all realms ,
as for smiters maybe u dont meet skilled/good ones?
hf flashing, exile +grief (and max psn res not sucky 0 ) sory but i dont belive u win with that
i play on eu scl so we cant duel, but if there is a good kicker playing that realm i will gladly duel her

jake007
03-07-2006, 00:37
bvb is pathetic for me, sory doesnt metter hes goodlies on all realms ,
as for smiters maybe u dont meet skilled/good ones?
hf flashing, exile +grief (and max psn res not sucky 0 ) sory but i dont belive u win with that
i play on eu scl so we cant duel, but if there is a good kicker playing that realm i will gladly duel her

Have you ever duelled a WWsin that prebuffs? Without death's hand, I pretty much got my *** handed over. With death's hand, the duels were pretty much even.

Don't under-estimate venom and open-wound.

moonlike
03-07-2006, 01:21
Have you ever duelled a WWsin that prebuffs? Without death's hand, I pretty much got my *** handed over. With death's hand, the duels were pretty much even.

Don't under-estimate venom and open-wound.

y i dueled best ww sins with bramble+venom precast
i have death gloves in stash if i need, also try not run then ur def isnt 0
if i wanted i would use 2 gul andariel visage to extra kick her, also
antidouts can nagete psn alot. WW barb shouldnt loose to ww sin, u have more range life.dmg, ar,defense. If u lost it was probobly because u had low res and if u tell that match was pretty even with death hands its to bad because with that gloves ww sins almost cant touch me.

jake007
03-07-2006, 01:28
y i dueled best ww sins with bramble+venom precast
i have death gloves in stash if i need, also try not run then ur def isnt 0
if i wanted i would use 2 gul andariel visage to extra kick her, also
antidouts can nagete psn alot. WW barb shouldnt loose to ww sin, u have more range life.dmg, ar,defense. If u lost it was probobly because u had low res and if u tell that match was pretty even with death hands its to bad because with that gloves ww sins almost cant touch me.

He was sort of a WW/trap hybrid and yes barbs do generally have an advantage over WWsin.

The thing, widow can be a very useful little tool. I'm pretty sure you've used widow on your BvC to fight against BvA/BvB's and you know how effective it works.

P.S Entropypk = izi.

moonlike
03-07-2006, 03:19
He was sort of a WW/trap hybrid and yes barbs do generally have an advantage over WWsin.

The thing, widow can be a very useful little tool. I'm pretty sure you've used widow on your BvC to fight against BvA/BvB's and you know how effective it works.

P.S Entropypk = izi.

widow works good on barb on other chars its just insane vs bvc (no block =death)

p.s izi rive

Funguspower
03-07-2006, 14:13
Oh give me a break, this isn't spam-fest jsp is it? Quit bragging about chars and give normal, mature comments please. There's no point in ruining this Forum's good reputation for having mature members...

/fung

HappyAssassin
03-07-2006, 23:36
So, you prebuff antidotes, wear poison res stack, poison length reduce. Congrats on beating WWsins. You might as well brag about beating a light sorc while wearing Tgods, 2 Wisps and a Lo helm. Of course if you completely overstack on a negatable attack, you'll win. Finally, you're a barb, which is literally the anti-class for wwsins. Notice how the top trappers don't brag when they beat Druids? It's because its not something to be overly proud of, one class has a distinct advantage.

WWsins have a hard time with barbs. Vs. a BvC, its a good duel. A BvB utterly destroys all of the best sins, and even then its usually 3:1 in the barb's favor.

Really moonlike, judging from the way Wiz played in his videos, I'd say you're lucky you cant duel him. Saves you some humiliation.

order
04-07-2006, 00:54
i'm on a bad comp w/ bad internet so i cant watch wiz's videos right now, but judging from people's reactions he is a top notch dueler plus i know he gives great advice for sins on these forums. even with the stack and -duration there still are a few things u havent considered.... traps, stunlock, ow, CLAWBLOCK, and lastly skill. i know for a fact that smiters go down easily to my sin about 80% of the time even the ones with 30DR coa, griefz, eth vexile, ect so i'm pretty sure your wrong on your first assumption that smiters can easily kill wwsins/ kickers. barbs are definately a harder, but if u have the skills, timing, patience most are not very hard to beat.

in conclusion i would say just stick with the barb forums moonlike. u'll get much more love there.

also curious has anyone heard of LEETFEET on US west nl?

moonlike
04-07-2006, 01:02
So, you prebuff antidotes, wear poison res stack, poison length reduce. Congrats on beating WWsins. You might as well brag about beating a light sorc while wearing Tgods, 2 Wisps and a Lo helm. Of course if you completely overstack on a negatable attack, you'll win. Finally, you're a barb, which is literally the anti-class for wwsins. Notice how the top trappers don't brag when they beat Druids? It's because its not something to be overly proud of, one class has a distinct advantage.

WWsins have a hard time with barbs. Vs. a BvC, its a good duel. A BvB utterly destroys all of the best sins, and even then its usually 3:1 in the barb's favor.

Really moonlike, judging from the way Wiz played in his videos, I'd say you're lucky you cant duel him. Saves you some humiliation.

i dont use antidoutes i just told if u need u can , btw all chars while fighting barb have max dr and block why not resist their dmg also ?
or I should just run with -40 osn res and lose all life after 1 hit ur silly, u never saw me playing barb then how u can tell he would humiliate me?
ww sin using bramble, precast can be hard but i kill it with or without death gloves (if u realy think that so evil i can use andariel 2xgul) which i dont count as much bm as precast and thorns .

HappyAssassin
04-07-2006, 05:34
Yep, you'd lose.

swiftrunner
04-07-2006, 06:20
in conclusion i would say just stick with the barb forums moonlike. u'll get much more love there.

He's not loved anywhere.

Romper Stomper
04-07-2006, 06:35
i play on eu scl so we cant duel

Shocking. :shocked:

Romper Stomper
04-07-2006, 06:37
Back on topic, I saw a funny little kick assassin in a pub once -- used last wish so as to have 100% CB with all items on and ctc lots of useful things (though I would imagine the ctc fade would get annoying). Seemed kinda neat.

moonlike
04-07-2006, 10:42
Yep, you'd lose.
nn cry
He's not loved anywhere.
i dont care hate me if u want

Shocking. :shocked:

there are many realms as u know and not everyone live in use
ask jake007 he can confirm i play euscl

i tried play on west and east was bored waiting for my char screen

jake007
04-07-2006, 13:30
there are many realms as u know and not everyone live in use
ask jake007 he can confirm i play euscl

i tried play on west and east was bored waiting for my char screen

Yes he does play in Eu ScL. One of the better bvc player in ladder.

Still ezpk though :jig:

HappyAssassin
04-07-2006, 18:25
"nn cry" means nothing to me, sorry. I don't won't some kind of arguement, I've got nothing to say to you. Comments like this just reinforce my opinion. Peace.

moonlike
05-07-2006, 13:51
i'm on a bad comp w/ bad internet so i cant watch wiz's videos right now, but judging from people's reactions he is a top notch dueler plus i know he gives great advice for sins on these forums. even with the stack and -duration there still are a few things u havent considered.... traps, stunlock, ow, CLAWBLOCK, and lastly skill. i know for a fact that smiters go down easily to my sin about 80% of the time even the ones with 30DR coa, griefz, eth vexile, ect so i'm pretty sure your wrong on your first assumption that smiters can easily kill wwsins/ kickers. barbs are definately a harder, but if u have the skills, timing, patience most are not very hard to beat.

in conclusion i would say just stick with the barb forums moonlike. u'll get much more love there.

also curious has anyone heard of LEETFEET on US west nl?

ok then but still its hard for me to belive a pure kicker kill easy good smiters ,
wiz if u can try post video when u fight vs smiter.

LeegionOnEast
05-07-2006, 17:08
I used fraps to record. It does lag the comp some but my comp can handle it.
The vids are then compressed with 3ivx codec.

So far I have not been impressed with most d2 vids I've seen. I've seen a bunch of players post vids of them using fc zons, smiters, and all against weak public opponents, very few exciting duels vs gg players. Nothing exciting about watching a smiter charge out of town and one hit pubs. Z.z

Youtube is lame for d2 vids. Watch a few of the vids on there and you will see why. I once posted a vid there in response to someone praising their fc zon vid. (showing fc zon getitng pwnt without sorb by legit kicksin in my vid) and had someone on youtube accuse me of gmod in my vid. lol? Bunch of idiots.

Zack + Donny posted a few good vids. (I think you can find those on putfile) Smash's BvC vids on video.google are great. Thats about it.

As for my vids, you can find the majority of them here:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Zaiychik

Also SeeD posted 3 kvk vids I recorded here:
http://media.putfile.com/The-2-Best-USeast-Kickers-Duel
http://media.putfile.com/The-2-Best-USeast-Kickers-Duel-2
http://media.putfile.com/The-2-Best-USeast-Kickers-Duel-3


I have a few vids I recorded playing on trapper but I dont have them uploaded anywhere. And btw Funguspower, my char isnt a trapper hybrid, level 1 traps, 20 mindblast, pvp kick/bowsin.
It's just that kickers need to know how to play like trappers with stunlock tactics. 65+ fcr and max trapset speed are a must.

I'd love to duel you on ENL. I have a Fire Druid, and you look like a challenge. :evil:

Ichthyoid
05-07-2006, 21:42
moonlike, no one said its easy to duel smiters, but you're making assn sound so bad, it seems like all smiters will utterly destroy assns, which is not true.

wizAdept
06-07-2006, 00:32
ok then but still its hard for me to belive a pure kicker kill easy good smiters ,
wiz if u can try post video when u fight vs smiter.Just so there aren't any wrong assumptions:
For pure kickers (no widow, no synergized traps, no ww) smiters are an impossible duel. Smite completely destroys talon at melee.
However, this does not stop me from dueling vs and defeating most smiters.
The tactic that I developed to duel smiters is:
-don't use talon ever (unless the smiter sucks)
-learn to see through desync (there are a few tricks to this) to know the true location of the smiter, thus avoiding a desynced hit bowside from the smiter. Use a combination of evasion and stun techniques to keep the smiter from reaching me.
-keep chipping off health with venom/ow on guided arrow until the smiter is dead.

dweb vs smiters is pretty much pub repellent. It dominates "smite duelz" games and the like.
vs serious smiter opponents with good gameplay (and 75 res with 50+ stacked) I use Um'd Fleshripper.

The exceptional smiters are a difficult duel, but not an impossible one.
I'm not trying to say "omg smiters are ezcoins, bowsins own them ty no re", but this is not the first time someone has replied to watching my videos with something along the lines of "a smiter will kill you ez", and that is just not so - I have a tactic for dueling them.
As far as difficulty of duel goes: The top notch smiters are difficult. The average smiters (they are so common nowadays) are very simple. And in my experience most people who respond to me killing their caster with "omg time for ez, brb with smiter" fall into the simple category. I don't claim to win all my duels vs smiters, but I can stand my ground vs even the exceptional ones, if anyone wants to duel me with a smiter, sure I'm up for it.

I'll try to arrange some duels against a few and record them. Not sure when I'll have them posted, maybe a week or two, rl is keeping me busy.

Leegion: sure, pm me account name I should whisper for duel. or /w *Zaiychik whenever you see me online. As I mentioned rl is keeping me busy at the moment, but you should be able to catch me later this week or the weekend.

Denied
08-07-2006, 07:09
I would also like the chance to duel you. I use a bowazon and not sure if that's a one sided duel for either of us, but would still like to have at least a few GM duels :D
Currently, she only really gets killed by dysnch smiters and WW barbs. Never dueled a WWsin before.
Also, I have a good friend who is a smiter. Seen him take out a group of 7 at a time. You could make a video kicking his asz if you wanted :LoL:
This goes for anybody on NL East SC. Always up for GM duels. Maybe we should start a thread?

wizAdept
09-07-2006, 05:24
Anyone looking for a duel can just pm me or /w *Zaiychik whenever they see me on.

Clicktoseename
25-07-2006, 21:18
Fraps is weird, when i start record, i press F9 and when i walk form town and to the wp the video ends there, and then a second video shows only when dead Diablo is lying on the floor...thats about 5 seconds. How can i fix this problem? :undecided: (In the video map, the whole in game recording splits up in two and the following happens)