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MarkGerken
28-06-2006, 06:55
ok, i've been going to public pk games for a bit and always seam to get owned by fire sorc's and hurrican druids. Even with 80 fire rez a single ball almost kills me. And the hurrican/tornados lock and kill me in a few seconds with 75 cold rez. Am i just not playing right, or is there something i'm missing?

conor rocks
28-06-2006, 07:16
for fire sorcsi usually get far and start layin out 1 or 2 hammers in different places and usualy come over and it hits them. For pubby wind druids just make a field of hammers and it usualytakes out minions t hen keep making hammers cuz they tele on you and it kills them pretty fast if you did it right.

MarkGerken
28-06-2006, 10:39
Should i stack up on absorb? like r-frosts dwarf stars and whisp protector sets in my stash?

HappyAssassin
28-06-2006, 13:35
This is an option, but most people dont take it very when when you completely negate their attacks. Personnally, I dont do it because I think its unsporting. Also, you can't negate a wind druid, most of their damage is physical. Try using a heavy PDR setup against them.

Also, if one Fball takes almost all your life, consider remaking your hammerdin. :undecided:

SicHalo
28-06-2006, 13:48
yeah no fireball at that should take all your rez you have low or crap life on your pala.

You could wear hotspurs vs fire sorcs but even with this alot of sorcs cry with these boots.

For windy druids use a dr setup, i usally fight with like 25% dr and i do ok but the more the better as the tornados are pyhsical dmg.

Abs wise all i ever carry is a tg and 2x ravens vs blizz sorcs but i plan to get a p saphire shield to negate some of the - res of the blizz.

fhpchris
28-06-2006, 14:26
yeah no fireball at that should take all your rez you have low or crap life on your pala.

You could wear hotspurs vs fire sorcs but even with this alot of sorcs cry with these boots.

For windy druids use a dr setup, i usally fight with like 25% dr and i do ok but the more the better as the tornados are pyhsical dmg.

Abs wise all i ever carry is a tg and 2x ravens vs blizz sorcs but i plan to get a p saphire shield to negate some of the - res of the blizz.

You will never beat a good wind druid, because of minion stacking. You can only kill one wolf at once, and he as 5+ of them. You will not even hurt him before he kills you.

SicHalo
28-06-2006, 14:31
You will never beat a good wind druid, because of minion stacking. You can only kill one wolf at once, and he as 5+ of them. You will not even hurt him before he kills you.

incorrect you can go 50/50 with a good windy using desyncing charging hammer tele hammer on its own will = no chance unless u catch off guard.

retrovamp
28-06-2006, 18:40
Does the -resistance mods on items like facets work in PvP? Perhaps you should then consider stacking fire resists somehow. (charms, nokozan?)

MarkGerken
29-06-2006, 00:43
"Also, if one Fball takes almost all your life, consider remaking your hammerdin"

i have 2.9k hp and 80 fire rez, i dont understand the problem :(. Maybe (since it was pub games) some pally had conv on?

kingdryland
29-06-2006, 02:10
I don't find stacking/sorbing unsporting at all. I play a mage among others, and I actually expect my foh to be negated in every duel.

Side note. I haven't had a proper duel in 2 weeks,this lag has totally killed my mood for the game...

SicHalo
29-06-2006, 02:40
I don't find stacking/sorbing unsporting at all. I play a mage among others, and I actually expect my foh to be negated in every duel.

Side note. I haven't had a proper duel in 2 weeks,this lag has totally killed my mood for the game...

same here anyone with dueling experience i.e smiters or possible BvC i also expect my foh to be negated because any BvC without res stack i make sure i punish them properly by whoring out foh.

I think i on ladder Euro i have only seen 1 barb carry some kinda res stack gear and actually use Widowmaker and actually knew how to duel hammers.

Yeah Bnet has been very laggy but it affect me more on BvC when i duel :S

kingdryland
29-06-2006, 02:55
I think i on ladder Euro i have only seen 1 barb carry some kinda res stack gear and actually use Widowmaker and actually knew how to duel hammers.



Was his name Talic or so?

SicHalo
29-06-2006, 12:15
Was his name Talic or so?


I think it was Entropy

RetroStar
29-06-2006, 18:40
slap on a grief pb or any weapon really and charge the casters to death.

edit: why does every thread have to relate back to bvc...

jake007
29-06-2006, 18:52
Entropy

moonlike on this forum

KaythonXE
29-06-2006, 20:59
Don't charge casters. Desync towards them and then tele on top, they won't see you until it's too late you're fhr-lock them with hammers. If they can even tank more than 2.

Windies you charge in a triangle pattern(relatively small triangle) throwing a concentrated hammer at each point. Let them come to you. When they stand there to type to you lol stop standed charge at them and tele on top.

Arbedark
29-06-2006, 22:20
edit: why does every thread have to relate back to bvc...

Because BvC are GODS! :rolleyes:

Sins 4tw...

jmsplat
01-07-2006, 07:27
Don't charge casters. Desync towards them and then tele on top, they won't see you until it's too late you're fhr-lock them with hammers. If they can even tank more than 2.

Windies you charge in a triangle pattern(relatively small triangle) throwing a concentrated hammer at each point. Let them come to you. When they stand there to type to you lol stop standed charge at them and tele on top.

Easier said than done; it's friggin hard to get a NL while charging or even after a charge if they're moving.

I suggest playing defensive and using desync hammers vs. casters because you will lure them into your invis hammers

MarkGerken
01-07-2006, 09:38
whats desync?

jmsplat
01-07-2006, 21:07
Ugh.. so many desync questions- if you move really fast (charge + vigor) bnet can't keep track of you fast enough so your opponent can't see you and you are "desynced". Hammers cast while desynced turn invisible

jake007
01-07-2006, 22:10
Easier said than done; it's friggin hard to get a NL while charging or even after a charge if they're moving.

I suggest playing defensive and using desync hammers vs. casters because you will lure them into your invis hammers

Won't work, a well-built 95%ES sorceress just wait out/potting blues when hammer hits them.

It's almost impossible UNLESS you mass-absorb+95% Resistance.

jmsplat
01-07-2006, 22:25
Yes, but it works against MOST GM casters. Anyone can win if they pot (I consider mana pot=health pot for ES sorcs)

SicHalo
02-07-2006, 02:21
Won't work, a well-built 95%ES sorceress just wait out/potting blues when hammer hits them.

It's almost impossible UNLESS you mass-absorb+95% Resistance.

yeah mana potting es sorcs are almost indestructable and the only way to deal with them is to dirrectly tele hammer them, random hammers is not good enought.

jake007
02-07-2006, 02:39
yeah mana potting es sorcs are almost indestructable and the only way to deal with them is to dirrectly tele hammer them, random hammers is not good enough

That's why I'm planning to have a 'malice' weapon in stash. 100% open wound, drain them down to 1hp in few hit and run charges, then finish them off with a hammer ;-)

jmsplat
02-07-2006, 07:09
I'm toying with using a widow on my libby since the dii damage calc says 200 pvp damage with conc on.. maybe I could throw in a pair of dracs + gores...

kingdryland
02-07-2006, 11:40
I'm toying with using a widow on my libby since the dii damage calc says 200 pvp damage with conc on.. maybe I could throw in a pair of dracs + gores...

Widow requires 146 dex. This number isn't far away from what paladins need for max block in levels above 90,even with hoz. Perhaps you should um the bow.

SicHalo
02-07-2006, 13:10
thats what i have been trying is to use widowmaker or some kinda huge ow and psn setup for this.

the malice idea could work

jmsplat
02-07-2006, 17:08
Hmm well my pally can't use an um widow because he has just enough for max block (132) and I don't feel like rebuilding him

hardnfast
03-07-2006, 01:36
Hmm well my pally can't use an um widow because he has just enough for max block (132) and I don't feel like rebuilding him

hel the widow maker and the required dex drops to 116

kingdryland
05-07-2006, 01:36
Hmm well my pally can't use an um widow because he has just enough for max block (132) and I don't feel like rebuilding him

Just lose soj and use raven.

Imbecile
05-07-2006, 12:32
hel the widow maker and the required dex drops to 116

117 (10 chars)