Questions regarding golems - And Poison/Summon Necro end gear + skills.

[hejhej]

I see all these posts about making this and that into a golem (read ik maul, both weapons etc)

Q is:

If you make a golem, and use a weapon, do they stay with you through games?

Ie: You quit make a ng, and they show up?

Also, what happens if the golem dies?

Sec, which golem to use? I am playing a poison/summon build.

Also, how do golems work/can you see what they have been made of?

As you guys can hear, I am all new to this, and sorta confused, since I couldn't find any info about this.


Also is this the best setup (skill wise) ?

Max Poison Nova
Max Poison Explosion
Max Poison Dagger
Max Raise skeleton
Max Skeleton Mastery
1 point into all pre req's curses until lower resist then 1 point there.
1pt in corpse explosion as well, or?


Gear I am using right now is:

Mage plate enigma
Shako (Poison facet, or 14% Res all Jewel?)
Mara
1x Soj, 1x Fast cast rate ring
Trang Gloves, Trang Belt, Trang shield (Shield socketed with Um or Poison facet?)

Marrow walk Boots
Switch: +6 Bo cta // Eth Spirit (Should I perhaps Use Beast here?)

Should I use Posion/Bone Grand charms, or Summoner gc's?

I also need to know what gear to give my Merc.
I take it I need an Act 2 Nm merc with Might Aura right?

Would Infinity be overkill?
Should he use Guillam's face or Andariel's visage (Helmet)
Armour should be Duress (for crush blow) or perhaps Coh, or Perhaps Bramble?

Would the bramble help more than perhaps Duress?


Please help me answer my questions, since I really want this necro to be tweaked as much as possible.

// me

[Mad Mantis]

Q is:

If you make a golem, and use a weapon, do they stay with you through games?


Yes. As long as you have one point in the skill the IG will show up in a new game until it dies. If you or the Golem die you'll need to summon a new IG from a new item. Summoning another Golem will count as having killed the previous.




Sec, which golem to use? I am playing a poison/summon build.

Clay works well as a diversion. An IG can also work well depending on what you make it out of.




Also, how do golems work/can you see what they have been made of?

Max Poison Nova
Max Poison Explosion
Max Poison Dagger
Max Raise skeleton
Max Skeleton Mastery
1 point into all pre req's curses until lower resist then 1 point there.
1pt in corpse explosion as well, or?[/QUOTE]

That actually require more skill points than you'll have. And I doubt you'll make it to level 99 easy before you grow bored of it, so level 85 or 90 is a better goal to plan your skillpoints with. Dropping some points in SM will still allow you to make an effective Necro.

[hejhej]

So, if I want the max poison route, I should do like this?

Max Poison Nova
Max Poison Explosion
Max Poison Dagger
Max Raise skeleton
1 point into all curses until I hit lower resist.
1 point into corpse explosion.
Rest into Skeleton Mastery ?

Would that work?




Max Poison Nova
Max Poison Explosion
Max Poison Dagger
Max Raise skeleton
Max Skeleton Mastery
1 point into all pre req's curses until lower resist then 1 point there.
1pt in corpse explosion as well, or?[/QUOTE]

That actually require more skill points than you'll have. And I doubt you'll make it to level 99 easy before you grow bored of it, so level 85 or 90 is a better goal to plan your skillpoints with. Dropping some points in SM will still allow you to make an effective Necro.[/QUOTE]

[Cave]

Poison is pretty weak compared to skeletons in the beginning, so start with maxing RS. Then start with poison/curses. After poison has been maxed, use leftovers on SM.

Infinity only lowers elemental resistances and defence, so it wont help your poison. Only thing it would increase is the chance to hit on your skeletons and the fire damage from corpse explosion. Nothing you really need, give your merc a weapon with alot of CB, that will speed things up, especially on bosses.

If you only intend to play this build PvM, which Im guessing you are, try to get your hands on deaths web. Then you won't need any poison facets to be strong.
And why an Um rune in shields? Pdiamond give almost as much but alot cheaper.

[HarbingersOfSkulls]

Best way is to start as a summoner...so you max skeletons and put 1 point into mastery putting points into your curse along the way. Why you ask? Because as a summoner...you will level up much faster than you would be running around waiting to ge to level 6 for PD...and then running around poking every single monster to level.

Also, with just 1 point into mastery and your skeletons...it's good enough to use for all of norm and even nm with common sense.

After the skeletons are done...then focus on your poison skills (I just put 1 point into everything leading to PN before adding points into PD or PE) which also means CE since it is a prereg for getting to PN.

After you have the 3 poison skills done...your curses to LR taken care of...and 1 point in gumby/golem mastery/and summon resists...all that's left for you to do is decide if you want a different golem or go have some revives (which isn't really needed because your PN will kill faster than they can).

Then all your remaining points goes into skeleton mastery for stronger and more usefull skeletons...or into golem mastery for a better rustbucket.

My build is like this at level 77 so far:

PD-maxxed (level 47)
PE-maxxed (level 47)
PN-maxxed (level 47)

All curses-1 point only (level 19)

Skeletons-maxxed (level 36)
Skeleton mastery-1 point so far (level 17)

*Summon resist has one point (level 17) and give my summons 63 resists to all.

HoS

[hejhej]

Heh, perhaps I should say that I am already lvl 90, and skill points + stats points untouched.

I wear the following:

Death's web.
Enigma Mage Plate
Shako (Currently pf topazed)
29% Res Mara Amulet
Trang Gloves
Trang Belt
Trang Shield
19 Str 17 Dex Marrowwalk boots
1x Soj
1x +19 Str 10% Fast cast rate Ring (Should perhaps switch for another soj)
19/20 Necro Torch
16/17/10 Annihilus
Switch +6 Bo Cta and Ethereal Spirit Monarch


Which gives me (w/o ANY kind of stat placed)

187 Str
99 Dex
Vit 57
Energy 67

I STILL have these questions:

Should I use Posion/Bone Grand charms, or Summoner gc's?

I also need to know what gear to give my Merc.
I take it I need an Act 2 Nm merc with Might Aura right?


Anyone?

[Blocss]

Well hejhej,

For starters.. .u either have nice friends, or.. damn ebayer : /

Act2 nm might, YES. Weap, depends, ebotd ghost spears work nice. or pride for conc. or, w/ethe bleep u like, obediance? its got CB, but u dont want reapers since the decrep will override your LR.
one in LR is sufficient, at higher lvls it ups -1rez per 2 lvls roughly. which isnt worth it.
if you ever want to PVP. get PNB GC's. acutually, overall get PNB gc's.
I guess if you're a PVM'r then switch em up, get a lil of both or w/e u want.
GL and welcome to the necro.

[hejhej]

*Laughs*

I am just one of those guys who magic finds alot, then turn the found goods into runes or other objects, then trade those for whatever I need.

I was lucky yesterday, I managed to trade a pair of crafted gloves I made for x4 poison and bone skillers, granted the gloves were very very good.

Now, I am still pondering where to place my points in.

Could anyone out there give me an exact route to go?

Ie: Put one pointo into this, max this, this works, this doesn't etc.

I would be really greatful.

Regarding merc: I went Nm Act 2 Offense

I gave him Ethereal Great Poleaxe Infinity
I had a 3-os "glitched" aka, "cubed" 3-os scarab husk, which I turned into a
2700+ defense DURESS armour (For crush blow purposes)
And also gave him a Andariel's visage with a 15% ias jewel, who has I believe 7% fire res as well.






Well hejhej,

For starters.. .u either have nice friends, or.. damn ebayer : /

Act2 nm might, YES. Weap, depends, ebotd ghost spears work nice. or pride for conc. or, w/ethe bleep u like, obediance? its got CB, but u dont want reapers since the decrep will override your LR.
one in LR is sufficient, at higher lvls it ups -1rez per 2 lvls roughly. which isnt worth it.
if you ever want to PVP. get PNB GC's. acutually, overall get PNB gc's.
I guess if you're a PVM'r then switch em up, get a lil of both or w/e u want.
GL and welcome to the necro.

[Mad Mantis]

So, if I want the max poison route, I should do like this?

Max Poison Nova
Max Poison Explosion
Max Poison Dagger
Max Raise skeleton
1 point into all curses until I hit lower resist.
1 point into corpse explosion.
Rest into Skeleton Mastery ?

Would that work?

That would work splendidly.