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fliker
24-06-2006, 03:54
My general question is which build is the best for pvm and pvp, which build kills the fastest, which is more likely to take you through hell the easiest?

thx

Bladewind
24-06-2006, 05:40
Easiest PvP ? Bone.

Easiest PvM. Tie.
Poison damage is very powerful but they take time to work, however poison nova and poison explosion are all AoE skills and taking time to work means you do not need obscene FCR.

Bone provides better direct fire abilities and is a better choices against single hard targets but they usually lack AoE skills except teeth and of course require alot of FCR to work.

misterlinno
24-06-2006, 06:33
Easiest PvP: Bone.
Easiest PvM: Still Bone.
More Fun in all respects: Psn.

take the road less traveled. go for a psn mancer.

HarbingersOfSkulls
24-06-2006, 07:57
Depends on the equipment really.

The bone build is made basically to take out one monster at a time skill wise...with the only exception being teeth. But teeth will only be effective in certain parts in hell for the AoE...which leaves bone spear and bone spirit which are your 2 main skills anyway. Then there's the mana issue...without having a merc with insight...your going to be chugging mana potions like no tomorrow even with some equipment that gives you so much mana back per kill. And that's only if you use them on the build or not.

Venomancer does have one of the best AoE skills in the game in poison nova...and you could use poison explosion in the same way that you could CE...only spreading the disease instead. While you can use alot of wands for a venomancer build...obviously the best is the death web. Using it allows you to have the one advantage that the bone build doesn't...regaining your mana back per kill as well as lower the monster's poison resists even with using LR first.

I'm able to kill monsters in hell alot faster than a bone build because of the AoE combined with the poison damage I do. While a bone build can kill good in hell...it does take a few shots from spear and spirit to do so...while PN can kill most monsters in one or two of them.

I've seen NC use his as a rusher and I've used mine to do the same thing...the venomancer makes it easier to clear out act4 of hell...while the bone build is best as a boss killer because the venomancer does take a bit to kill bosses unless it uses skeletons or revives for help.

But in the end it just depends on the equipment being used and common sense as well.

HoS

fliker
25-06-2006, 00:26
kk and what's AoE ??

Jackson
25-06-2006, 00:41
Area of Effect, I believe.

HarbingersOfSkulls
25-06-2006, 19:20
Area of Effect, I believe.

You believe correct Jackson.

HoS

OBDjinn
25-06-2006, 19:28
novamancer is extremely funny to play, in 1player games its good for pvm but its not that good in 8player.

on pvp its very good versus all melee chars v/o enigma, all others are medium hard exept for good fohers/trappers/kitted bvcs and wwsins.

/D.

Lyrs
25-06-2006, 22:50
pvm and pvp, if you have a death's web, build a psnmancer. with LR, nova kills very quickly and because you will have extra points, having minions give you a physical dmg source as well.

your only problem is that ppl stacking 100 psn res and +max psn res will be incredibly hard to kill with nova, but given a merc, minions, and liberal use of curses, your minions can also do some killing.

bonemancers works well vrs everything except es sorcs and since you'll want to synergize your skills as much as possible, you will not have a suitable source of counter dmg.