max block or max vita?

[NoobXDon]

i built a summoner a while ago. he uses BP nigma so has 0 pts in str. he has about 300 stat points unused. skill tree is set.

20 rs
20 sm
20 ce
1 to each curse
rest of pts going to mages

gear
shako (ptopaz)
mara
hoto
homo
bp nigma
rare belt until i can wear arach
2x 30 nagels
40 chancies
45 travs
cta/lidless on switch (no spirit i am NL)

torch
anni
1 summon gc
1 curse gc with 45 life (rolled this one myself, so pissed it was curses)
the rest of inventory is filled with mfscs

i just beat the game with a weaponless merc at lvl 78. (lvled 3 times after coming out of nightmare) baal was a joke and this char is unstoppable with his army.

so my question is, do i go for max block? or do i go max vita? the only time i had to chug some purples was when i teled into a pack of tough monsters (PI frenzy monster or Black Souls) and against the ancients. i rarely if ever get hit, especially if ihave a few large sized revives. i think going max block might be a waste of *stat points...

please let me know what you guys think

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[McTCM]

i go max vit with my summoner

since my res is low I die if I don't watch it

but he's doing okay(same setup as you do execpt beast instead of hoto)

[usbserial]

Lets do the math.

2 stat points = 1% block
2 stat points = 4 life

Over a long enough time frame, 1% block is basically equal to 1% DR.

Few creatures do more than 120 damage on average.

120 * 1% = 1.2 damage

1.2 damage resist vs 4 life.

Looks like vita wins, right? Especially with all the things you can't block anyway (spells).

But here's another way to look at it... at lvl 90, you'll need about 202 dex to have 75% block with a homo.

Assuming you have a torch and some +dex on your equipment, you might need base 180 dex. That's 155 stat points used on dex rather than vita-- 310 health.

At clvl 90, you'll probably have about 1k hp with good equipment with max block... 1.3k hp with equipment w/out max bock.

So in this case you are sacrificing 23% of your health for 70% more damage resistance (on average). It's 70%, not 75% since you'd have 5% block with no dex.

Not a terrible trade if you ask me. Spells will be more effective against you since you have less health and can't block them anyway, but melee and ranged attackers will be less of a problem.

Its your choice in the end. Is it worth it to you?

[NoobXDon]

well i just looked at my char wheni went home for lunch. my resists are 75fire 71 cold 75 light 74 psn. i spent about 250 pts in vita and i have 155 left. my health with items is over 1k without bo. the thing is the only thing that hits me is ranged attacks when i am tele stacked with only skeletons. if i have a few large sized monster revived i dont take any hits whatsoever. so to be honest having max block is stupid since i rarely get hit anyway. but i have only played the necro 3-4 days so i dont have alot of experience mfing with him. i will mostly be playing p1 for mf and p8 for baal runs. so i guess in a week ill be able to tell whether or not i should max block or not (i left enuff stat pts i believe, to reach a descent block rate) my dex right now is at 66? and i have a 25% chance to block. i think a 50% chance is all i really need. so i might spend ... 50 stat pts to achieve this? sounds like a good trade off. 1/2 things are blocked and i only get hit 1 in 100 attacks (estimation)

300 hp isnt that much of a difference, but when bo'd its 600. which does make a difference. so like i said, trial and error.

i never realized that skele mage stack allows them to shoot 1 massive elemental ball at 1 enemy. i should have maxed mage instead of CE as my CE radius is just redonkulous. oh well.

is bone armor worth 1pt?

[usbserial]

well i just looked at my char wheni went home for lunch. my resists are 75fire 71 cold 75 light 74 psn. i spent about 250 pts in vita and i have 155 left. my health with items is over 1k without bo. the thing is the only thing that hits me is ranged attacks when i am tele stacked with only skeletons. if i have a few large sized monster revived i dont take any hits whatsoever. so to be honest having max block is stupid since i rarely get hit anyway. but i have only played the necro 3-4 days so i dont have alot of experience mfing with him. i will mostly be playing p1 for mf and p8 for baal runs. so i guess in a week ill be able to tell whether or not i should max block or not (i left enuff stat pts i believe, to reach a descent block rate) my dex right now is at 66? and i have a 25% chance to block. i think a 50% chance is all i really need. so i might spend ... 50 stat pts to achieve this? sounds like a good trade off. 1/2 things are blocked and i only get hit 1 in 100 attacks (estimation)

300 hp isnt that much of a difference, but when bo'd its 600. which does make a difference. so like i said, trial and error.

i never realized that skele mage stack allows them to shoot 1 massive elemental ball at 1 enemy. i should have maxed mage instead of CE as my CE radius is just redonkulous. oh well.

is bone armor worth 1pt?

With 50% block you'd get hit 2.5% of the time, assuming everything only had a 5% chance to hit you (unlikely).

Bone armor is worth 1 point if you are actually going to use it.

[NoobXDon]

so i just used all my stat pts and skill pts. here is my necro

with gear on
str: 111
dex: 100
vita: 450
energy: under 100

RS 20 = 36 with gear
SM 20 = 36 with gear
Mages 11 = 28 with gear
1 pt in everything else in summon tree
1 pt all curses = lvl 21 all curses
20 CE
1 bone armor

33% chance to block is good enuff. when i tele stack, larger monsters are placed on top of me and thus i am hidden behind a very strong meat shield.

my mf runs take a little longer then expected. i think a crecent moon merc weapon and some CB will dramatically decrease the time killing baal, etc. or i would have to get those CB monsters from act 3 trav, as my kill time dropped dramatically when i had a few of them revived. baal was at half life in a few blows.

i love tele stack, it is TONS of fun to stack all minions and watch one large elemental ball hit one target. to relieve lag in baal runs i only raised mages (11 of em) and then one monster that was larger then me revived (this is how you keep the skelles in place when you tele stack) i would spam lower resist, then tele (watch the ball hit and kill) tele (watch) tele (watch). people were thanking me in baal runs (sorcs and wind druids) for not lagging the game.

[malakho]

Sounds like your doing fine right now :)

the downside with nec's is that on average their killing time is slower then, say a sorc or javazon on groups, on average ( I know there are those who might disagree...i've played both and this is just my opinion) hence mf'ing will take more time

Malachi

[NoobXDon]

ce makes quick work of large groups. but i agree, killing baal without CB takes a very long time. i need to get another gulliams for my merc.