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200fcr 95%es FB sorcs especially
kingdryland
14-06-2006, 04:06
Hotspur and grief is your friend.
Defensive desync hammers. If your life is low charge with medit on. @ king: charging sorcs is usually suicide as they should be spamming spells. If you do want to charge make sure you vigor charge
I've beaten a pub 200 FCR sorc + bone nec just doing defensive IBH. Also my BO wore off pretty early :D
Edit: If you have low life make sure they get a good look at you life bar so they get aggressive.
Defensive desync hammers. If your life is low charge with medit on. @ king: charging sorcs is usually suicide as they should be spamming spells. If you do want to charge make sure you vigor charge
I've beaten a pub 200 FCR sorc + bone nec just doing defensive IBH. Also my BO wore off pretty early :D
Edit: If you have low life make sure they get a good look at you life bar so they get aggressive.
sounds good to me lol. now to get that 125 fcr to make those IBH...
is this pally circlet seomwhat decent=
2comb skill
20fhr
20fcr
17allres
(shaeled)
just bought it for an soj
edit:
gotta admit though. i am not used to play defensive. this is my first pally ever and its hard for me to play that way lol. what do i do when i come across a defensive caster tho? one who just waits for u to come to themm...?
kingdryland
14-06-2006, 12:18
Defensive desync hammers. If your life is low charge with medit on. @ king: charging sorcs is usually suicide as they should be spamming spells. If you do want to charge make sure you vigor charge
I've beaten a pub 200 FCR sorc + bone nec just doing defensive IBH. Also my BO wore off pretty early :D
Edit: If you have low life make sure they get a good look at you life bar so they get aggressive.
Hotspur+at least one dwarf etc usually works for me. If they are stationary and don't teleport too ofen I do spiral charges.If they do teleport I do random charges with vigor on and throw a few hammers in the process and hope for desynch effect but I always keep an eye for charging opportunities.
kingdryland
14-06-2006, 22:53
I have godfellas and some akira kurosawa films handy :)
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if ne1 has ownage hdin videos,
PM me or seomthing plz... there arent too many good caster-owning hdins on east that i can watch and learn their style
You can desync with 0 fcr just as easily as with 125. You'll just get out less IBH before you resync with server. To desync hotkey vigor + charge next to eacher other and hammer + conc next to each other. I do A=charge S=vigor Z=hammer X=conc.
I use waterwalks as my main boot so no hotspurs for me. With hotspurs + dwarf charging a sorc isn't a good idea unless you desync around to the side without fbs coming out. Oh if you NL tele on her you=dead.
Go to youtube.com and search "farcasters". I saw a vid but it isn't veyr gg but it's a start.
If I have time this summer I may be writing a pub libby guide because the stickied guides lack strategies. I already have a nice anti-bvc tactic that needs to be tested some more.
Although people say charging a sorc is suicide, I prefer to do it, only just when they r teleing so when they stop to orb you they stop to orb you, you get a chance to charge them. Once you hit them once they are stunned and sitting ducks.
Or you could charge through 8 fbs if they shoot in your direction...
If you really want to - "Vex" Shako, Hotspur and The rising sun will take any fire sorceress down.
However, for general play I don't think many hammerdin will stand a chance against a 200fcr ES Fballer. Defensive desync wont work because the sorceress will shoot you off-screen. Namelock teleport won't work either because she WILL outspam you by getting you into a hit-lock. Your best chance is to really max your hammer damage and hope that you can tear their energy shield apart in 2 hammers, and kill them off with the 3rd.
If I recall correctly, it took me 5 11K hammer to kill a good 95%ES fballer (it was a damage testing session, I couldn't beat her in general play)
kingdryland
15-06-2006, 15:27
Hotspur,dwarf and nokozan can be a cheaper alternative. I haven't run the numbers to see which is optimal though.
"Vex" Shako, Hotspur and The rising sun
This setup is definitely better. You have 95 Max Fire resist along with 74 straight fire-absorb. I don't think any fire sorceress can scratch you, providing that you can make up the resist to 95.
Defensive desync WILL work against normal 200 fcr sorcs, but against the ES ones it'll be tougher and mostly impossible if they drink mana pots. The only thing I can see that may work is if you stay above her and then desync charge below her and spam hammers (with 125 fcr) and hope she has crap fhr
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