Want to make a godly Eth Phase sword

[HuggieTheBear]

Ok, i want to create a godly Ethereal Phase sword with at least these 4 mods:

1.) Cruel Mod
2.) Fools Mod
3.) 2 Socket Mod
4.) 40 Ias Mod

Optionals:
5.) 5% chance to cast amp damage
6.) + to strength mod

Questions:
1.) I want to make these with the ethereal mod how would I go doing this?
2.) Can I use the soj + pskull formula?
3.) What would be my odds?
4.) I can get about 108 sojs easily at the moment how many should I expect to get?
5.) Is there anyother formula that is better then pskull + soj one?
6.) any other info I can use?

Thanks for any help I receive in advance! :thumbsup:

[krischan]

Q1: You have to get an ethereal dimensional blade or crystal sword with the mods wanted and cube it up to elite, so it will become an ethereal hase blade. To obtain such a dimensional blade, you have to find, imbue, cube (many recipes will remove etherealness, however) or otherwise produce rare ethereal sords of that kind.
Q2: AFAIK that recipe removes etherealness, but I'm not sure.
Q3: The chance is 1 in several hundrads of millions. I guess that means that cubing or just anything which costs resources is not applicable. Pick up and ID all rare dimensional blades and crystal sword. The best rare I ever got was a 40%IAS, 414%ED, 9% dual leech phase blade. Good luck
Q4: Not enough, by far. See Answer to Q2 as well.
Q5: Getting items imbued by Charsi will let items stay ethereal.

Good luck :rolleyes:

[HuggieTheBear]

So your totally positive that formula removes ethereal? Is their another one that would be better using imbue quests is the only way??? :cry:

[kuafu]

I barely remember that imbue will never give eth items, but I can be wrong.

[Dunner]

I barely remember that imbue will never give eth items, but I can be wrong.

You are correct that a normal white item will never receive the ethereal quality from the imbuing process. However, if an unsocketed, ethereal item is given to Charsi for an imbue, it will retain it's ethereal property in addition to the new mods once it becomes a rare item.

[HuggieTheBear]

but even if I used that eth rare item in the cube recipe it will lose its etherealness? :undecided:

[strikeamatch]

test it? sounds like ppl dont know for sure, but believe it will, as i craft, i tested this myself with eth items and it removes eth and never adds it... so. i would bet it's the same for that recipe.

[krischan]

So your totally positive that formula removes ethereal? Is their another one that would be better using imbue quests is the only way??? :cry:
I'm not 100% sure, but cube recipes normally do that.

As I said, the chance to get such an item is so incredibly low that cubing or using imbue quests would be a tremendous waste of resources. Better pick up all rare swords while doing or expecting something else, so you won't waste too much of your most valuable resource as well: time.

[Konfu]

For 108 soj's someone will find you such a sword.

Everything has a price :)

[WebDragon]

For 108 soj's someone will find you such a sword.

Everything has a price :)

Amen :azn:

[Quietus]

I mentioned this in the other thread, might do well to mention it here, where someone a little more knowledgeable about qlvls and alvls might pick it up - I know that 6 pskulls + rare diadem is popular because of the diadem being qlvl 87 with a magic level of 18, ensuring it can always get the +2 skill mod.

If the 6 pgem recipe is used on a phase, will it's default qlvl be high enough to retain the ability to get Cruel?

[HuggieTheBear]

yes, please answer his question because I can get 1000's of pskulls no problem meaning I could get alot more tries and if they didn't take eth away.... anyone know if soj formula takes eth away for sure?

I honestly dont think I could get this sword for that small amount. I would need at least 2 to 3 times its for that kind of a sword. Thats if it even exists. I kinda wanted to try it, because well if I do make it I wanna say it was me that did it. :thumbsup:

[krischan]

A few thousands ? You would need hundreds of millions of them, if not more. It seems you don't have an idea about the size of that number. 600,000,000 (for 100,000,000 tries) isn't just a little more than let's say 10,000.

A mule can hold 97 pgems (stash+inventory+cube+cursor). To store 10,000 pskulls, you need 103 of them or 13 accounts. For 600,000,000 you need more than 6 million mules or nearly 800,000 accounts. Apart from that, when assuming that a single cubing try needs 5 seconds and you are cubing 8 hours a day, you will need 17,000 days or 47 years for 100,000,000 tries. Of course, success isn't guaranteed.

AFAIK the 6 pskulls recipe removes etherealness as well.

Endlessly repeating the 6 pskull recipe will let the ilvl settle at 0.6*charlvl (minus 1 in most cases because of rounding while the ilvl approaches that value) which would be ilvl 65 for a L99 character. I'm not sure if that's enough for the affixes needed.

[Aeonios]

Eh, don't forget that the pskull formula will lower the ilvl of the rare, so after about 5 rolls the rare may be at ilvl 50 depending on its starting lvl. At ilvl 50 I really doubt it can get the mods you're looking for, while raising the ilvl may allow it to get combinations of mods otherwise not possible. As for the ethereal bit, well I'm on ladder and sojs aren't cheap enough here to test. I had planned on doing something similar myself though. Remember always use a char lvl 95 or higher for this, and eth dimensionals or crystals from baal work best.

[Quietus]

Eh, don't forget that the pskull formula will lower the ilvl of the rare, so after about 5 rolls the rare may be at ilvl 50 depending on its starting lvl. At ilvl 50 I really doubt it can get the mods you're looking for, while raising the ilvl may allow it to get combinations of mods otherwise not possible. As for the ethereal bit, well I'm on ladder and sojs aren't cheap enough here to test. I had planned on doing something similar myself though. Remember always use a char lvl 95 or higher for this, and eth dimensionals or crystals from baal work best.

The point I brought up was that the qlvl of the phase may be considered a limiter on these things. A rare diadem can be rolled 200 times over (or however many, it doesn't matter) with a level 1 character and never go below level 87 because the qlvl of a diadem is 87. So, if the qlvl of a phase is high enough for it to gain the Cruel mod, all the other mods are lower level, so it should stand that it would always be capable of Cruel. If that's the case, the only issue is that of ethereality.

::Edit:: Just tested both recipes. They both remove the ethereal quality. Assumedly, this means all other questions are moot. :O

[jimba]

A few thousands ? You would need hundreds of millions of them, if not more. It seems you don't have an idea about the size of that number. 600,000,000 (for 100,000,000 tries) isn't just a little more than let's say 10,000.

A mule can hold 97 pgems (stash+inventory+cube+cursor). To store 10,000 pskulls, you need 103 of them or 13 accounts. For 600,000,000 you need more than 6 million mules or nearly 800,000 accounts. Apart from that, when assuming that a single cubing try needs 5 seconds and you are cubing 8 hours a day, you will need 17,000 days or 47 years for 100,000,000 tries. Of course, success isn't guaranteed.

AFAIK the 6 pskulls recipe removes etherealness as well.

Endlessly repeating the 6 pskull recipe will let the ilvl settle at 0.6*charlvl (minus 1 in most cases because of rounding while the ilvl approaches that value) which would be ilvl 65 for a L99 character. I'm not sure if that's enough for the affixes needed.

Come on Krischan, where's your sense of adventure?? He may get lucky on the first roll... ;)

[krischan]

Hmm, OK, see the lyrics in my sig :azn:

You could try that perhaps once a week, just as with the lottery, but a systematic approach will definitely fail.