BotD or Doom Polearm?

[Mr Moltar]

which would you guys reccomend for a conc/ww polearm barb BotD or Doom?

[Aeonios]

BotD. Doom will attack at best 6 frames WW and can't be made in eth. All good botd poles attack at 4fpa, and have the obvious eth bonus. Holy freeze is a good bonus, but with pole range you don't need it, especially with the damage bonus of an ebotd.

[Clay bizzle]

BOTD. Aeonios summed it up.

[IIDX]

ebotd archon staff?

[Aeonios]

ebotd archon staves are cool and have insane average dmg, but are range 2. This is an obvious disadvantage for a shieldless barb, but is doubled by the fact that barbs don't have any masteries for staves, meaning your overall dmg and AR will suck.

[Horpeti]

BotD. Doom will attack at best 6 frames WW and can't be made in eth. All good botd poles attack at 4fpa, and have the obvious eth bonus. Holy freeze is a good bonus, but with pole range you don't need it, especially with the damage bonus of an ebotd.


"
If you desire increased attack speed (IAS) for Whirlwind, keep in mind that only the speed of the weapon itself counts. Consequently, any IAS on any item but the weapon has no effect at all. With a 1H weapon the framebreaks are at 0, 10 and 35 for 7, 6 and 5 frames between each attack; for a 2H weapon it's 0, 30 and 60. " (arreat)


How can you attack with 4fpa using WW?? :) Or that was for concentration? :)

or what is missing?

[Soepgroente]

ebotd archon staves are cool and have insane average dmg, but are range 2. This is an obvious disadvantage for a shieldless barb, but is doubled by the fact that barbs don't have any masteries for staves, meaning your overall dmg and AR will suck.
"Mace mastery"

And no 4fpa is wrong afaik, but still botd reaches max speed.

[Omikron8]

ebotd archon staves are cool and have insane average dmg, but are range 2. This is an obvious disadvantage for a shieldless barb, but is doubled by the fact that barbs don't have any masteries for staves, meaning your overall dmg and AR will suck.

range 2

base 20

[Puffen]

Archon staff goes into mace mastery?

[k/t]

AS says Archon Staff has speed 10.

And does Mace Mastery increase staff damage?

[inanefedaykin]

Mace mastery should be called "blunt instrument" mastery. Anything that gives an inherent +50% damage to undead falls under mace mastery.

[Jackson]

Staves are "maces" IIRC.